• Synchronet BBS List Not Verifying

    From Dmxrob@1:103/705 to All on Wednesday, March 20, 2019 21:01:27
    Digital Man,

    Something appears to be up with the synchronet verify routine. I see the following on the SBBS list got "Gateway to the West":

    2019-03-20 No connect: 0
    Last verified on 2019-03-15 by sbbslist.js 1.51

    The domain is bbs.homelabber.net, which I know is working as I access it all the time and so does Fido. All ports are standard, though I do not offer the web services externally.

    Any thoughts?


    dmxrob � BBSing from St. Louis, Missouri since 1988

    ---
    � Synchronet � Gateway to the West - St. Louis, Missouri - bbs.homelabber.net
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  • From Digital Man@1:103/705 to Dmxrob on Thursday, March 21, 2019 00:27:55
    Re: Synchronet BBS List Not Verifying
    By: Dmxrob to All on Wed Mar 20 2019 08:01 pm

    Digital Man,

    Something appears to be up with the synchronet verify routine. I see the following on the SBBS list got "Gateway to the West":

    2019-03-20 No connect: 0
    Last verified on 2019-03-15 by sbbslist.js 1.51

    The domain is bbs.homelabber.net, which I know is working as I access it all the time and so does Fido. All ports are standard, though I do not offer the web services externally.

    Any thoughts?

    Your terminal server wasn't answering at the time of the attempted connection(s)? I see I can connect right this moment. And I see many other BBSes are being successfully verified every night. So I don't have any immediate thoughts as to what the issue could be.

    digital man

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  • From Dmxrob@1:103/705 to Digital Man on Thursday, March 21, 2019 12:49:57
    Re: Synchronet BBS List Not Verifying
    By: Digital Man to Dmxrob on Wed Mar 20 2019 11:27 pm

    Your terminal server wasn't answering at the time of the attempted connection(s)? I see I can connect right this moment. And I see many other BBSes are being successfully verified every night. So I don't have any immediate thoughts as to what the issue could be.

    Do you know what time it tries to verify at? I can cross-reference my logs. I do have VM snapshots happening in the middle of the night, but that should not be taking anything offline.


    dmxrob � BBSing from St. Louis, Missouri since 1988

    ---
    � Synchronet � Gateway to the West - St. Louis, Missouri - bbs.homelabber.net
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  • From Digital Man@1:103/705 to Dmxrob on Thursday, March 21, 2019 14:29:49
    Re: Synchronet BBS List Not Verifying
    By: Dmxrob to Digital Man on Thu Mar 21 2019 11:49 am

    Re: Synchronet BBS List Not Verifying
    By: Digital Man to Dmxrob on Wed Mar 20 2019 11:27 pm

    Your terminal server wasn't answering at the time of the attempted connection(s)? I see I can connect right this moment. And I see many other BBSes are being successfully verified every night. So I don't have any immediate thoughts as to what the issue could be.

    Do you know what time it tries to verify at?

    The last successful verification of that BBS was at "2019-03-15T07:41:23.919Z" (that's UTC), so about that same time every day I would expect.

    I can cross-reference my logs.
    I do have VM snapshots happening in the middle of the night, but that should not be taking anything offline.

    <shrug>

    digital man

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    The Synchronet source code consists of over 500,000 lines of C and C++.
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  • From Dmxrob@1:103/705 to Digital Man on Thursday, March 21, 2019 19:08:34
    Re: Synchronet BBS List Not Verifying
    By: Digital Man to Dmxrob on Thu Mar 21 2019 01:29 pm

    Your terminal server wasn't answering at the time of the attempted connection(s)? I see I can connect right this moment. And I see many other BBSes are being successfully verified every night. So I don't have any immediate thoughts as to what the issue could be.


    I checked all the logs, and this message appears to have popped up and becoming rather frequent....

    Mar 21 17:21:37 bbs synchronet: term 0046 SSH info 'Timeout on read (select()) after 10 seconds' (-25) setting session active from bbs_thread

    What hostname/ip does the script check from so I can narrow it down in the logs to see what is happening?



    dmxrob � BBSing from St. Louis, Missouri since 1988

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  • From Digital Man@1:103/705 to Dmxrob on Thursday, March 21, 2019 17:57:48
    Re: Synchronet BBS List Not Verifying
    By: Dmxrob to Digital Man on Thu Mar 21 2019 06:08 pm

    Re: Synchronet BBS List Not Verifying
    By: Digital Man to Dmxrob on Thu Mar 21 2019 01:29 pm

    Your terminal server wasn't answering at the time of the attempted connection(s)? I see I can connect right this moment. And I see many other BBSes are being successfully verified every night. So I don't have any immediate thoughts as to what the issue could be.


    I checked all the logs, and this message appears to have popped up and becoming rather frequent....

    Mar 21 17:21:37 bbs synchronet: term 0046 SSH info 'Timeout on read (select()) after 10 seconds' (-25) setting session active from bbs_thread

    The sbbslist verifier doesn't check SSH connections, so that's not me.

    What hostname/ip does the script check from so I can narrow it down in the logs to see what is happening?

    vert.synchro.net (71.95.196.34)

    digital man

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  • From Dmxrob@1:103/705 to Digital Man on Friday, March 22, 2019 09:19:19
    Re: Synchronet BBS List Not Verifying
    By: Digital Man to Dmxrob on Thu Mar 21 2019 04:57 pm

    What hostname/ip does the script check from so I can narrow it down in the logs to see what is happening?

    vert.synchro.net (71.95.196.34)

    Here is what I see happening, it looks like you are making it on. I didn't see any entry for the 22nd, however.

    Mar 21 01:24:45 bbs synchronet: term 0046 Telnet connection accepted from: 71.95.196.34 port 58803
    Mar 21 01:24:46 bbs synchronet: term 0046 Telnet Hostname: vert.synchro.net
    Mar 21 01:24:46 bbs synchronet: term Node 1 socket 46 attached to local interface 192.168.86.20 port 23
    Mar 21 01:24:46 bbs synchronet: term Node 1 01:24a Thu Mar 21 2019
    Node 1
    Mar 21 01:24:46 bbs synchronet: term Node 1 Telnet vert.synchro.net [71.95.196.34]
    Mar 21 01:24:47 bbs synchronet: term Node 1 terminal type: 157x58 ANSI
    Mar 21 01:24:50 bbs synchronet: term Node 1 disconnected


    dmxrob � BBSing from St. Louis, Missouri since 1988

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  • From Digital Man@1:103/705 to Dmxrob on Friday, March 22, 2019 08:16:18
    Re: Synchronet BBS List Not Verifying
    By: Dmxrob to Digital Man on Fri Mar 22 2019 08:19 am

    Re: Synchronet BBS List Not Verifying
    By: Digital Man to Dmxrob on Thu Mar 21 2019 04:57 pm

    What hostname/ip does the script check from so I can narrow it down in the logs to see what is happening?

    vert.synchro.net (71.95.196.34)

    Here is what I see happening, it looks like you are making it on. I didn't see any entry for the 22nd, however.

    Mar 21 01:24:45 bbs synchronet: term 0046 Telnet connection accepted from: 71.95.196.34 port 58803
    Mar 21 01:24:46 bbs synchronet: term 0046 Telnet Hostname: vert.synchro.net Mar 21 01:24:46 bbs synchronet: term Node 1 socket 46 attached to local interface 192.168.86.20 port 23
    Mar 21 01:24:46 bbs synchronet: term Node 1 01:24a Thu Mar 21 2019
    Node 1
    Mar 21 01:24:46 bbs synchronet: term Node 1 Telnet vert.synchro.net [71.95.196.34]
    Mar 21 01:24:47 bbs synchronet: term Node 1 terminal type: 157x58 ANSI
    Mar 21 01:24:50 bbs synchronet: term Node 1 disconnected

    I found the problem with verification:

    "service": [
    {
    "address": "bbs.homelabber.net",
    "protocol": "telnet",
    "port": ""
    },
    {
    "address": "bbs.homelabber.net",
    "protocol": "ssh",
    "port": ""
    },
    {
    "address": "bbs.homelabber.net",
    "protocol": "rlogin",
    "port": ""
    },

    See your terminal service port numbers are blank strings (""), which was unexpected. So I updated my code to use default ports in that case, but I'm not sure how/why your ports became blank strings. A default port can/could be assumed by not specifying a port number (so-called 'undefined'), but an emptry string was not explicitly supported as indicating a "default port".

    Your older SBL messages (in the SYNCDATA echo) had actual port numbers specified, so something changed at some point in your local sbbslist.json file, I'm guessing.

    digital man

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  • From Dmxrob@1:103/705 to Digital Man on Saturday, March 23, 2019 19:06:33
    Re: Synchronet BBS List Not Verifying
    By: Digital Man to Dmxrob on Fri Mar 22 2019 07:16 am

    I found the problem with verification:
    "address": "bbs.homelabber.net",
    "protocol": "telnet",
    "port": ""
    See your terminal service port numbers are blank strings (""), which was unexpected. So I updated my code to use default ports in that case, but I'm not sure how/why your ports became blank strings. A default port can/could

    Thanks for catching it. I'm not sure either; I've looked at the JSON before, but never edited it outside of the editor.

    Shortly after I posted that to you, unfortunately, I lost my ESXi cluster, and my backups got corrupted. So it has been a fun few days trying to rebuild things. On one hand, learned some important lessons about backups and clustering I plan to put to good use - on the other hand, lost a lot of stuff.

    Live and learn and try again...

    Rob

    �dmxrob� BBSing from St. Louis, MO since 1988

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@1:103/705 to Dmxrob on Sunday, March 24, 2019 10:46:00
    Dmxrob wrote to Digital Man <=-

    Shortly after I posted that to you, unfortunately, I lost my ESXi
    cluster, and my backups got corrupted. So it has been a fun few days trying to rebuild things. On one hand, learned some important lessons about backups and clustering I plan to put to good use - on the other hand, lost a lot of stuff.


    Rob,

    I've been trying to respond to your netmail, could you email me at
    kweiske at realitycheckbbs dot org?

    --k



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  • From Dmxrob@1:103/705 to poindexter FORTRAN on Sunday, March 24, 2019 16:46:01
    Re: Re: Synchronet BBS List Not Verifying
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Dmxrob on Sun Mar 24 2019 09:46 am

    Rob,

    I've been trying to respond to your netmail, could you email me at
    kweiske at realitycheckbbs dot org?

    Mailed!

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  • From Lord Time@1:103/705 to Dmxrob on Monday, March 25, 2019 10:09:10
    ---
    � Synchronet


    Please goto your scfg-networking-qwk networking-default tagline, and put in
    the name of your bbs & telnet address


    ---

    Rob Starr
    Lord Time SysOp of
    Time Warp of the Future BBS
    Telnet://Time.Synchro.Net:24
    ICQ # 11868133 or # 70398519 Jabber : lordtime2000@gmail.com
    Astra : lord_time
    X-Box : Lord Time 2000 Skype : lordtime@tds.net
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  • From Dmxrob@1:103/705 to Lord Time on Monday, March 25, 2019 20:56:27
    Re: Re: Synchronet BBS List Not Verifying
    By: Lord Time to Dmxrob on Mon Mar 25 2019 09:09 am

    ---
    � Synchronet


    Please goto your scfg-networking-qwk networking-default tagline, and put in the name of your bbs & telnet address

    Not coming from me. I'm currently offline and reading/responding via other BBS systems.


    �dmxrob� BBSing from St. Louis, Missouri USA since 1988
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  • From Lord Time@1:103/705 to Dmxrob on Monday, March 25, 2019 23:50:19
    Re: Re: Synchronet BBS List Not Verifying
    By: Lord Time to Dmxrob on Mon Mar 25 2019 09:09 am

    ---
    � Synchronet


    Please goto your scfg-networking-qwk networking-default tagline, and put in the name of your bbs & telnet address

    Not coming from me. I'm currently offline and reading/responding via other BBS systems.

    ok, your welcome to post that to the sysop of that bbs


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    Rob Starr
    Lord Time SysOp of
    Time Warp of the Future BBS
    Telnet://Time.Synchro.Net:24
    ICQ # 11868133 or # 70398519 Jabber : lordtime2000@gmail.com
    Astra : lord_time
    X-Box : Lord Time 2000 Skype : lordtime@tds.net
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