On 10/26/2018 11:09 AM, Mindless Automaton wrote:

test

FYI, when I view this test message via ECweb, it appears as a reply to
another message: test From bytor@VERT to alt.bbs.synchronet on Thu Jun
13 20:36:00 2013

I had posted a new message to all via NNTP.

Also there appears to be 3 message threads with latest reply from 2015
at the top of the of the Synchronet Discussion and then the rest appear
to be in order by date from today back.

Thanks!

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Re: Odd ECweb Threading (was Re: test)
By: Mindless Automaton to Mindless Automaton on Fri Oct 26 2018 12:23:33

FYI, when I view this test message via ECweb, it appears as a reply to another message: test From bytor@VERT to alt.bbs.synchronet on Thu Jun
13 20:36:00 2013

Does that other message have the same subject? Because of inconsistent threading data (on networked messages in particular) I also group messages with the same subject line into the same thread. When I don't do this, messages that are *clearly* part of the same thread appear in separate threads because some other linking data is missing. IMHO this helps more than it harms, and messages with the same topic are kinda sort part of the same "thread" anyway.

Side benefit: CVS commit messages about a particular file end up in the same thread.

Also there appears to be 3 message threads with latest reply from 2015
at the top of the of the Synchronet Discussion and then the rest appear to be in order by date from today back.

Yeah, that's weird. They're supposed to be sorted by the date of the newest message in the thread. I'll see if I can figure that one out.

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On 10/26/2018 1:34 PM, echicken wrote:

Re: Odd ECweb Threading (was Re: test)
By: Mindless Automaton to Mindless Automaton on Fri Oct 26 2018 12:23:33

MA> FYI, when I view this test message via ECweb, it appears as a reply to
MA> another message: test From bytor@VERT to alt.bbs.synchronet on Thu Jun
MA> 13 20:36:00 2013

Does that other message have the same subject? Because of inconsistent

Yes, it was the same "test" subject. Just odd since I replied to the
whole newsgroup instead of anyone in that thread. Don't want anyone
coming down on me for reviving old threads. :)

MA> Also there appears to be 3 message threads with latest reply from 2015
MA> at the top of the of the Synchronet Discussion and then the rest appear
MA> to be in order by date from today back.

Yeah, that's weird. They're supposed to be sorted by the date of the newest message in the thread. I'll see if I can figure that one out.

Thanks!

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Re: Re: Odd ECweb Threading (was Re: test)
By: Mindless Automaton to echicken on Fri Oct 26 2018 14:59:53

Yes, it was the same "test" subject. Just odd since I replied to the whole newsgroup instead of anyone in that thread. Don't want anyone coming down on me for reviving old threads. :)

When they do, tell them that I told you to tell them to eat shit. It's not like we're drowning in chatter here. Raise the dead, maybe it'll start a conversation about necromancy. (I'm only kind of joking; necroposting is one thing, expecting a reply from OP ten years later is often unrealistic.)

Regarding your mis-sorted messages, I see what the problem is (and it's not anything wrong with the web UI). If you look in the first of those threads on your BBS, you'll see that the penultimate message has a date in the distant future: Sat Feb 6 22:28:15 2106. That makes the newest message in that thread newer than anything else in that sub on your BBS.

I'm not sure what tools we have for fixing stuff like that; I can write a quick script if you want to change that date, or you could delete the message. I assume the other threads at the top have similar problems.

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Re: Odd ECweb Threading (was Re: test)
By: echicken to Mindless Automaton on Fri Oct 26 2018 01:34 pm

Also there appears to be 3 message threads with latest reply from
2015 at the top of the of the Synchronet Discussion and then the
rest appear to be in order by date from today back.

Yeah, that's weird. They're supposed to be sorted by the date of the newest message in the thread. I'll see if I can figure that one out.

I've seen that on my BBS sometimes too, where on ecweb, the messages at the top are older ones.

Nightfox

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Re: Odd ECweb Threading (was Re: test)
By: Nightfox to echicken on Fri Oct 26 2018 12:25:18

I've seen that on my BBS sometimes too, where on ecweb, the messages at the top are older ones.

The order in which threads are listed is governed by the newest message anywhere in each thread. The date of the *last* (highest-numbered) message in a thread isn't necessarily what determines this (but it usually is). If any message in a thread has a newer 'when written time' than any other message in the sub, then its thread is listed above the rest, and so on.

(So you can check those threads and see if any message has a weird date in the future or something.)

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Re: Re: Odd ECweb Threading (was Re: test)
By: Mindless Automaton to echicken on Fri Oct 26 2018 02:59 pm

whole newsgroup instead of anyone in that thread. Don't want anyone coming down on me for reviving old threads. :)

I don't really see a problem with reviving an old thread, if you have something new to ask or contribute. People often seem to react like reviving an old thread is against the law or something..

Nightfox

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On 10/26/2018 1:34 PM, echicken wrote:

Re: Odd ECweb Threading (was Re: test)
By: Mindless Automaton to Mindless Automaton on Fri Oct 26 2018 12:23:33

MA> FYI, when I view this test message via ECweb, it appears as a reply to
MA> another message: test From bytor@VERT to alt.bbs.synchronet on Thu Jun
MA> 13 20:36:00 2013

Does that other message have the same subject? Because of inconsistent

Yes, it was the same "test" subject. Just odd since I replied to the
whole newsgroup instead of anyone in that thread. Don't want anyone
coming down on me for reviving old threads. :)

My wife has a closet full of jeans if you're interested in reviving old threads :-P

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Re: Re: Odd ECweb Threading (was Re: test)
By: Mindless Automaton to echicken on Fri Oct 26 2018 02:59 pm

whole newsgroup instead of anyone in that thread. Don't want anyone coming down on me for reviving old threads. :)

I don't really see a problem with reviving an old thread, if you have something new to ask or contribute. People often seem to react like reviving an old thread is against the law or something..

Nightfox

Then you haven't seem my jean jacket :)

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On 10-26-18 16:16, echicken wrote to Nightfox <=-

The order in which threads are listed is governed by the newest message anywhere in each thread. The date of the *last* (highest-numbered) message in a thread isn't necessarily what determines this (but it
usually is). If any message in a thread has a newer 'when written
time' than any other message in the sub, then its thread is listed
above the rest, and so on.

Maybe people shouldn't post from their TARDIS? :D

(So you can check those threads and see if any message has a weird date
in the future or something.)

That makes sense, One does occasionally see odd dates in a thread. :)


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On 10-26-18 14:50, Nightfox wrote to Mindless Automaton <=-

I don't really see a problem with reviving an old thread, if you have something new to ask or contribute. People often seem to react like reviving an old thread is against the law or something..

Agree, some old threads are worth continuing, so revive away, as far as I'm concerned. :)


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Re: Re: Odd ECweb Threading (was Re: test)
By: Nightfox to Mindless Automaton on Fri Oct 26 2018 02:50 pm

I don't really see a problem with reviving an old thread, if you have something new to ask or contribute. People often seem to react like reviving an old thread is against the law or something..

if there's a good reason, sure. otherwise it's against the law.
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On 10-27-18 12:06, MRO wrote to Nightfox <=-

if there's a good reason, sure. otherwise it's against the law.

In that case, you'd better quote the Act and Regulations, with links for verification. ;)


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On 10/26/18, Bucksworth said the following...

My wife has a closet full of jeans if you're interested in reviving old threads :-P

That made me chuckle outloud! :D

Nice!

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Re: Re: Odd ECweb Threading (was Re: test)
By: Tony Langdon to MRO on Sun Oct 28 2018 09:16 am

On 10-27-18 12:06, MRO wrote to Nightfox <=-

if there's a good reason, sure. otherwise it's against the law.

In that case, you'd better quote the Act and Regulations, with links for verification. ;)

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On 10-27-18 22:30, MRO wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

nope, you have to take my word for it. i have a lot of bbs botnets,
you know. -

Haha they all say that. :P



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