• Rasberry Pi unix help with install

    From Sneaky@1:103/705 to All on Sunday, October 07, 2018 21:38:46
    Hi All

    I have rasberry pi Rasbian and i hope same one would would like to help me with installing unix sbbs please i not much good with unix but I would
    like to try.

    Firstly does any one how if there is a how to do video of the installing
    of it.

    secondly I have been on wiki.synchro.net/install:nix and just having
    a bit of troule following it

    so this is my first step ie

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- You must create the directory where Synchronet will live. Some common locations would be your home directory (e.g. /home/you/sbbs) or the system root directory (e.g. /sbbs).

    By default, Synchronet executables will look for files in the /sbbs/ctrl directory, so if you install Synchronet into a different directory you will need to either create a symbolic link in your root directory (e.g. ln -s /home/you/sbbs /) or set the SBBSCTRL environment variable accordingly

    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- And would like to now does this look right or not

    drwxr-xr-x 23 root root 740 Oct 6 09:18 run
    lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 18 Oct 7 10:58 sbbs -> /home/pi/sbbs/


    Thank you
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  • From Digital Man@1:103/705 to Sneaky on Sunday, October 07, 2018 04:40:51
    Re: Rasberry Pi unix help with install
    By: Sneaky to All on Sun Oct 07 2018 09:38 pm

    Hi All

    I have rasberry pi Rasbian and i hope same one would would like to help me with installing unix sbbs please i not much good with unix but I would like to try.

    Firstly does any one how if there is a how to do video of the installing
    of it.

    secondly I have been on wiki.synchro.net/install:nix and just having
    a bit of troule following it

    There are step-by-step instructions specifically for the pi here: http://wiki.synchro.net/howto:raspbian_install

    so this is my first step ie

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- You must create the directory where Synchronet will live. Some common locations would be your home directory (e.g. /home/you/sbbs) or the system root directory (e.g. /sbbs).

    By default, Synchronet executables will look for files in the /sbbs/ctrl directory, so if you install Synchronet into a different directory you will need to either create a symbolic link in your root directory (e.g. ln -s /home/you/sbbs /) or set the SBBSCTRL environment variable accordingly

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - And would like to now does this look right or not

    drwxr-xr-x 23 root root 740 Oct 6 09:18 run
    lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 18 Oct 7 10:58 sbbs -> /home/pi/sbbs/

    Sure, assuming that's an ls output of the root directory.

    digital man

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  • From Mortifis@1:103/705 to Sneaky on Sunday, October 07, 2018 10:09:34
    Hi All

    I have rasberry pi Rasbian and i hope same one would would like to help me with installing unix sbbs please i not much good with unix but I would like to try.

    Firstly does any one how if there is a how to do video of the installing
    of it.

    secondly I have been on wiki.synchro.net/install:nix and just having
    a bit of troule following it

    For the RPI it would be best to follow these instructions http://wiki.synchro.net/howto:raspbian_install

    so this is my first step ie

    drwxr-xr-x 23 root root 740 Oct 6 09:18 run
    lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 18 Oct 7 10:58 sbbs -> /home/pi/sbbs/

    For me it seemed to work better installing sbbs to /sbbs as RELEASE=1 rather than SYSLINK=1

    basically the commands are:

    sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -y dist-upgrade
    sudo apt-get -y install cvs zip libnspr4-dev libncurses5-dev
    sudo mkdir /sbbs
    sudo chown -R pi: /sbbs // assuming you are running as user pi
    cd /sbbs
    wget http://cvs.synchro.net/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/*checkout*/install/GNUmakefile make install RELEASE=1
    export SBBSCTRL=/sbbs/ctrl
    cd /sbbs/exec
    ./scfg // edit your Synchronet BBS system settings

    After the build completes you may want to check /sbbs/exec and make sure all of the executables were installed correctly
    cd /sbbs/exec
    ls -lh // look at the ownership and timestamps

    you run it as sudo /sbbs/exec/sbbs
    I would suggest for the first executions you run it in it own terminal in the foreground so you can immediately see the console output, once you are comfortable it is running correctly you can either run it sudo /sbbs/exec/sbbs & or edit the /sbbs/ctrl/sbbs.ini and set DAEMONIZE=TRUE

    hope this helps

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  • From Deon@1:103/705 to Sneaky on Sunday, October 07, 2018 15:09:03
    Re: Rasberry Pi unix help with install
    By: Sneaky to All on Sun Oct 07 2018 09:38 pm

    Hi All
    I have rasberry pi Rasbian and i hope same one would would like to help me with installing unix sbbs please i not much good with unix but I would like to try.

    Hi Sneaky,

    I've installed fine on a Raspberry Pi. I found on the wiki a howto for Raspberry Pi, and I followed that (sorry cant give you a link, I'm travelling to the US and at LA airport the synchro.net website is "blocked" (?)

    My install is actually in docker using the debian:stretch container (plus the pre-reqs on the wiki) - and it compiled no problems. In theory it should work on Raspbian directly.

    I will build a Pi docker container, which will make installation as simple as "docker pull ...." but that might need to wait until I return home.

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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Sneaky on Monday, October 08, 2018 12:49:00
    On 10-07-18 21:38, Sneaky wrote to All <=-

    And would like to now does this look right or not

    drwxr-xr-x 23 root root 740 Oct 6 09:18 run
    lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 18 Oct 7 10:58 sbbs -> /home/pi/sbbs/

    What directory are you in? Lacking the relevant context to know if this is right. The output of 'pwd' alongside this directory listing would have been helpful.


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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Mortifis on Monday, October 08, 2018 12:52:00
    On 10-07-18 10:09, Mortifis wrote to Sneaky <=-

    For me it seemed to work better installing sbbs to /sbbs as RELEASE=1 rather than SYSLINK=1

    Doesn't RELEASE=1 install the older 3.16? (which is ancient). And I think you mean SYMLINK=1 in the above example. I got the development build installed easily by dropping the SYMLINK=1 parameter.


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  • From echicken@1:103/705 to Tony Langdon on Sunday, October 07, 2018 22:32:18
    Re: Re: Rasberry Pi unix help with install
    By: Tony Langdon to Mortifis on Mon Oct 08 2018 12:52:00

    Doesn't RELEASE=1 install the older 3.16? (which is ancient). And I think

    No, that would be more a matter of checking out the 3.16 tag from CVS. IIRC RELEASE=1 is the default/normal build, instead of DEBUG=1 for a debug build.

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  • From Digital Man@1:103/705 to Tony Langdon on Sunday, October 07, 2018 19:42:21
    Re: Re: Rasberry Pi unix help with install
    By: Tony Langdon to Mortifis on Mon Oct 08 2018 12:52 pm

    On 10-07-18 10:09, Mortifis wrote to Sneaky <=-

    For me it seemed to work better installing sbbs to /sbbs as RELEASE=1 rather than SYSLINK=1

    Doesn't RELEASE=1 install the older 3.16? (which is ancient).

    No. "RELEASE" means a non-debug build of the same source code.

    And I think
    you mean SYMLINK=1 in the above example. I got the development build installed easily by dropping the SYMLINK=1 parameter.

    Either way should work.

    digital man

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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to echicken on Monday, October 08, 2018 17:07:00
    On 10-07-18 22:32, echicken wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

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    Re: Re: Rasberry Pi unix help with install
    By: Tony Langdon to Mortifis on Mon Oct 08 2018 12:52:00

    Doesn't RELEASE=1 install the older 3.16? (which is ancient). And I think

    No, that would be more a matter of checking out the 3.16 tag from CVS. IIRC RELEASE=1 is the default/normal build, instead of DEBUG=1 for a
    debug build.

    Ahh, OK, yeah has been a while (I'm due to update my installation).


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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Digital Man on Monday, October 08, 2018 17:08:00
    On 10-07-18 19:42, Digital Man wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    No. "RELEASE" means a non-debug build of the same source code.

    Thanks for the correction.

    And I think
    you mean SYMLINK=1 in the above example. I got the development build installed easily by dropping the SYMLINK=1 parameter.

    Either way should work.

    My original installation was 3.16c with SYMLINKS=1, the current one is 3.17 without that setting.


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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to Tony Langdon on Monday, October 08, 2018 05:39:00

    On 2018 Oct 08 12:52:00, you wrote to Mortifis:

    For me it seemed to work better installing sbbs to /sbbs as RELEASE=1
    rather than SYSLINK=1

    Doesn't RELEASE=1 install the older 3.16? (which is ancient). And I
    think you mean SYMLINK=1 in the above example. I got the development build installed easily by dropping the SYMLINK=1 parameter.

    max and i have been building 3.17 in RELEASE=1 or DEBUG=1 modes since she decided to try to wade in a few years back... we've used SYMLINK=1 with both...
    my current install is /not/ using symlinks because of problems we ran into in the past on max's system when switching between release or debug... not that one will be doing that very often but i didn't want to deal with that bit of hassel when i decide to switch from debug to release...

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  • From Mortifis@1:103/705 to Tony Langdon on Monday, October 08, 2018 08:48:12
    On 10-07-18 10:09, Mortifis wrote to Sneaky <=-

    For me it seemed to work better installing sbbs to /sbbs as RELEASE=1 rather than SYSLINK=1

    Doesn't RELEASE=1 install the older 3.16? (which is ancient). And I think you mean SYMLINK=1 in the above example. I got the development build installed easily by dropping the SYMLINK=1 parameter.

    yes, SYSLINK was a typo ... I ran make RELEASE=1 and it compiled as 3.17a .. my understanding is that by using RELEASE=1 is telling the compiler to not include extra debugging info? One could just run make without options and copy the executables from gcc.*.*.exe.debug into /sbbs/exec I guess it is a matter of preference

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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to mark lewis on Tuesday, October 09, 2018 06:58:00
    On 10-08-18 05:39, mark lewis wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    max and i have been building 3.17 in RELEASE=1 or DEBUG=1 modes since
    she decided to try to wade in a few years back... we've used SYMLINK=1 with both... my current install is /not/ using symlinks because of problems we ran into in the past on max's system when switching between release or debug... not that one will be doing that very often but i didn't want to deal with that bit of hassel when i decide to switch
    from debug to release...

    I went for no symlinks, while I had no issues with symlinks, I prefer to have my binaries in the right place in the tree, in case I ever have to move the source tree or remove it for some reason. And if I ever have to replace binaries by hand, I didn't want to have to chase symlinks.

    And DM, echicken and others cleared up my misinterpretation of RELEASE. :)


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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Mortifis on Tuesday, October 09, 2018 07:03:00
    On 10-08-18 08:48, Mortifis wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    yes, SYSLINK was a typo ... I ran make RELEASE=1 and it compiled as
    3.17a .. my understanding is that by using RELEASE=1 is telling the compiler to not include extra debugging info? One could just run make

    Yes, you are correct, was my bad. :)


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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to Tony Langdon on Tuesday, October 09, 2018 21:18:08

    On 2018 Oct 09 06:58:00, you wrote to me:

    max and i have been building 3.17 in RELEASE=1 or DEBUG=1 modes since
    she decided to try to wade in a few years back... we've used
    SYMLINK=1 with both... my current install is /not/ using symlinks
    because of problems we ran into in the past on max's system when
    switching between release or debug... not that one will be doing that
    very often but i didn't want to deal with that bit of hassel when i
    decide to switch from debug to release...

    I went for no symlinks, while I had no issues with symlinks, I prefer
    to have my binaries in the right place in the tree, in case I ever
    have to move the source tree or remove it for some reason. And if I
    ever have to replace binaries by hand, I didn't want to have to chase symlinks.

    yup! in the case i speak of, when switching between release and debug, the make
    file stuff doesn't touch the symlink so it remains pointing at the wrong binary... copying the files into the tree doesn't have this problem but there is the (minor) additional drive space usage...

    And DM, echicken and others cleared up my misinterpretation of
    RELEASE. :)

    yeah, i saw that later when i read on further ;)

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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to mark lewis on Wednesday, October 10, 2018 13:54:00
    On 10-09-18 21:18, mark lewis wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    yup! in the case i speak of, when switching between release and debug,
    the make file stuff doesn't touch the symlink so it remains pointing at the wrong binary... copying the files into the tree doesn't have this problem but there is the (minor) additional drive space usage...

    Yeah, these days, that bit of disk usage is trivial. :)


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  • From Digital Man@1:103/705 to mark lewis on Tuesday, October 09, 2018 20:42:56
    Re: Rasberry Pi unix help with install
    By: mark lewis to Tony Langdon on Tue Oct 09 2018 09:18 pm


    On 2018 Oct 09 06:58:00, you wrote to me:

    max and i have been building 3.17 in RELEASE=1 or DEBUG=1 modes since
    she decided to try to wade in a few years back... we've used
    SYMLINK=1 with both... my current install is /not/ using symlinks
    because of problems we ran into in the past on max's system when
    switching between release or debug... not that one will be doing that
    very often but i didn't want to deal with that bit of hassel when i
    decide to switch from debug to release...

    I went for no symlinks, while I had no issues with symlinks, I prefer to have my binaries in the right place in the tree, in case I ever
    have to move the source tree or remove it for some reason. And if I ever have to replace binaries by hand, I didn't want to have to chase symlinks.

    yup! in the case i speak of, when switching between release and debug, the make
    file stuff doesn't touch the symlink so it remains pointing at the wrong binary...

    Unless you run 'make symlinks'.

    digital man

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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to Tony Langdon on Wednesday, October 10, 2018 07:38:16

    On 2018 Oct 10 13:54:00, you wrote to me:

    yup! in the case i speak of, when switching between release and
    debug, the make file stuff doesn't touch the symlink so it remains
    pointing at the wrong binary... copying the files into the tree
    doesn't have this problem but there is the (minor) additional drive
    space usage...

    Yeah, these days, that bit of disk usage is trivial. :)

    very :)

    speaking of drive space, this recent move i had to make to another bbs package enabled me to increase the available drive space i have for the BBS... my old system was running on an 8Gig and a 20Gig drive... the 8 was split into 4 2g (OS limits when originally set up) and the 20 was split into 2 10g... now the whole thing is on one 40G VM drive... pathing is a lot easier, too! :lol:

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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to Digital Man on Wednesday, October 10, 2018 07:41:04

    On 2018 Oct 09 20:42:56, you wrote to me:

    yup! in the case i speak of, when switching between release and debug,
    the make file stuff doesn't touch the symlink so it remains pointing at
    the wrong binary...

    Unless you run 'make symlinks'.

    ahhh... that's one of the changes in the build process... mayhaps it was brought about by max's and my posting about our discovery with symlinks and switching between debug and build releases?

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  • From Digital Man@1:103/705 to mark lewis on Wednesday, October 10, 2018 10:22:45
    Re: Rasberry Pi unix help with install
    By: mark lewis to Digital Man on Wed Oct 10 2018 07:41 am


    On 2018 Oct 09 20:42:56, you wrote to me:

    yup! in the case i speak of, when switching between release and debug,
    the make file stuff doesn't touch the symlink so it remains pointing at
    the wrong binary...

    Unless you run 'make symlinks'.

    ahhh... that's one of the changes in the build process... mayhaps it was brought about by max's and my posting about our discovery with symlinks and switching between debug and build releases?

    Perhaps but you weren't the only one(s) to have issues with that. Anyway, not 'make install' will copy the binaries while 'make symlinks' will create symlinks instead.

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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to Digital Man on Wednesday, October 10, 2018 17:05:42

    On 2018 Oct 10 10:22:44, you wrote to me:

    ahhh... that's one of the changes in the build process... mayhaps it
    was brought about by max's and my posting about our discovery with
    symlinks and switching between debug and build releases?

    Perhaps but you weren't the only one(s) to have issues with that.
    Anyway, not 'make install' will copy the binaries while 'make
    symlinks' will create symlinks instead.

    that is really cool... i may switch from copying back to using the symlinks and
    see what happens ;)

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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to mark lewis on Thursday, October 11, 2018 08:39:00
    On 10-10-18 07:38, mark lewis wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    speaking of drive space, this recent move i had to make to another bbs package enabled me to increase the available drive space i have for the BBS... my old system was running on an 8Gig and a 20Gig drive... the 8
    was split into 4 2g (OS limits when originally set up) and the 20 was split into 2 10g... now the whole thing is on one 40G VM drive...
    pathing is a lot easier, too! :lol:

    Yeah, you used to have to watch drive/partition sizes. And that was sometimes OS dependent. For example, my first Linux box could only address 500M in DOS/Windows, due to BIOS limitations, but on Linux, I was able to use all of a 1.2GB drive, provided I had the kernel in the first 500M (easily done by having a small /boot at the front of the drive), because Linux didn't rely on the BIOS and therefore didn't have the same limitations.


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  • From Denn@1:103/705 to Sneaky on Monday, October 15, 2018 00:09:38
    Re: Rasberry Pi unix help with install
    By: Sneaky to All on Sun Oct 07 2018 09:38 pm

    Hi All

    I have rasberry pi Rasbian and i hope same one would would like to help me with installing unix sbbs please i not much good with unix but I would like to try.

    Firstly does any one how if there is a how to do video of the installing of it.

    I have an Image that you can burn to an SD card for the PI that has raspian installed as well as Synchronet 3.17 and Mystic.
    you can Dload it at -> ftp://outwestbbs.com/raspberry.pi.re/RASPBERR/00index.html
    I have text instructions on the desktop everything is preinstalled.

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  • From Sneaky@1:103/705 to Denn on Monday, October 15, 2018 22:05:09
    Re: Rasberry Pi unix help with install
    By: Denn to Sneaky on Mon Oct 15 2018 00:09:38


    Hi Denn
    I have an Image that you can burn to an SD card for the PI that has raspian installed as well as Synchronet 3.17 and Mystic.
    you can Dload it at -> ftp://outwestbbs.com/raspberry.pi.re/RASPBERR/00index.html
    I have text instructions on the desktop everything is preinstalled.

    Thank you for this image, its going to take a while to download
    but I have plenty of time so that cool, and I will read the text instruction. and after I have either of them up and running I get back to you about it.

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  • From Minex@1:103/705 to All on Monday, October 15, 2018 08:50:04
    Re: Rasberry Pi unix help with install
    By: Denn to Sneaky on Mon Oct 15 2018 12:09 am

    Re: Rasberry Pi unix help with install
    By: Sneaky to All on Sun Oct 07 2018 09:38 pm

    Hi All

    I have rasberry pi Rasbian and i hope same one would would like to help me with installing unix sbbs please i not much good with unix but I would like to try.

    Firstly does any one how if there is a how to do video of the installing of it.

    I have an Image that you can burn to an SD card for the PI that has raspian installed as well as Synchronet 3.17 and Mystic.
    you can Dload it at -> ftp://outwestbbs.com/raspberry.pi.re/RASPBERR/00index.html
    I have text instructions on the desktop everything is preinstalled.

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    I just followed these directions on the Raspberry Pi forum. It worked pretty well.

    https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=181387

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  • From Mortifis@1:103/705 to Sneaky on Monday, October 15, 2018 19:35:08
    Re: Rasberry Pi unix help with install
    By: Denn to Sneaky on Mon Oct 15 2018 00:09:38


    Hi Denn
    I have an Image that you can burn to an SD card for the PI that has raspian installed as well as Synchronet 3.17 and Mystic.
    you can Dload it at -> ftp://outwestbbs.com/raspberry.pi.re/RASPBERR/00index.html
    I have text instructions on the desktop everything is preinstalled.

    Thank you for this image, its going to take a while to download
    but I have plenty of time so that cool, and I will read the text instruction. and after I have either of them up and running I get back to you about it.

    were you unable to get Synchronet BBS compiled and running on you RPI? I thought the only remaining issue was setting up binkit and FTN? I've had a few minutes and was easily able to get gtkmonitor, gtkuseredit, gtkuserlist, gtkchat compiled and running with the proper enviroment setings and a desktop icon for quick launch, if you'd like I can send you the 'get your hands dirty in Linux' info.

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  • From Denn@1:103/705 to Sneaky on Monday, October 15, 2018 23:11:23
    Re: Rasberry Pi unix help with install
    By: Sneaky to Denn on Mon Oct 15 2018 10:05 pm

    Hi Denn
    I have an Image that you can burn to an SD card for the PI that has

    Thank you for this image, its going to take a while to download
    but I have plenty of time so that cool, and I will read the text instruction. and after I have either of them up and running I get back to you about it.

    Sorry it's so big I need to figure out how to shrink the image to a resonable size.
    I will try to figure that out next weekend.

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  • From Mortifis@1:103/705 to Denn on Tuesday, October 16, 2018 18:17:11
    Re: Rasberry Pi unix help with install
    By: Sneaky to Denn on Mon Oct 15 2018 10:05 pm

    Hi Denn
    I have an Image that you can burn to an SD card for the PI that has

    Thank you for this image, its going to take a while to download
    but I have plenty of time so that cool, and I will read the text instruction. and after I have either of them up and running I get back to you about it.

    Sorry it's so big I need to figure out how to shrink the image to a resonable size.
    I will try to figure that out next weekend.

    You're a very helpful person, brah ... though, personally, I believe un*x is a 'get yer hands dirty' OS, that's why Windows still exists :-P

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  • From Nightfox@1:103/705 to Mortifis on Tuesday, October 16, 2018 15:57:53
    Re: Re: Rasberry Pi unix help with install
    By: Mortifis to Denn on Tue Oct 16 2018 06:17 pm

    You're a very helpful person, brah ... though, personally, I believe un*x is a 'get yer hands dirty' OS, that's why Windows still exists :-P

    There are some fairly user-friendly *nix OSes though. Ubuntu, Linux Mint, Fedora, and OpenSuSE are supposed to be fairly user-friendly Linux distros. A few years ago, I was also trying a recent release of FreeBSD or OpenBSD (I don't remember which) that had a fairly nice GUI, and it seemed they were trying to be user-friendly as well. But with those OSes, it does help to have knowledge of the command line interface too.

    Nightfox

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  • From Sneaky@1:103/705 to Denn on Wednesday, October 17, 2018 11:00:46
    Re: Rasberry Pi unix help with install
    By: Denn to Sneaky on Mon Oct 15 2018 00:09:38

    Hi Denn

    I ahve got the raspberr.zip downloaded and transfered to microsd and
    tried on a rasb pi b+ would load but wanted to work, put it on
    a rasb pi b and worked fine thank you (maybe a upgrade to work for b+)
    but no probs it's working ok.

    just 1 think though you set variable on boot up which is good
    but when running sudo /sbbs/exec/scfg, it cames up but a error message
    cannot find ctrl/main.cnf missing so I cannot edit any setting,
    tried a few things ie export SBBSCTRL=/sbbs/ctrl no difference
    but the sudo /sbbs/exec/sbbs works fine, these are run in /sbbs
    just letting you now and any help you can give me will be great
    Thank you

    Ian S 1st Choice Core Sbbs Nz

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  • From Denn@1:103/705 to Mortifis on Tuesday, October 16, 2018 23:23:30
    Re: Re: Rasberry Pi unix help with install
    By: Mortifis to Denn on Tue Oct 16 2018 06:17 pm

    I have an Image that you can burn to an SD card for the PI that
    has

    You're a very helpful person, brah ... though, personally, I believe un*x is a 'get yer hands dirty' OS, that's why Windows still exists :-P

    I believe So many Linux Distro's confuse and frustrate most people,
    I have tried many versions in the past and have settled on two Distro's that work well for what I do.
    1.Ubuntu Mate is my favorite
    2.Debian is my second choice.
    Maybe one day there will be a mainstream Linux Distro that will take out Windows.
    Yes there is a learning curve to Linux if you want to take full advantage of it's power but several Desktops will work for many un tech savvy people.

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  • From Denn@1:103/705 to Sneaky on Tuesday, October 16, 2018 23:41:27
    Re: Rasberry Pi unix help with install
    By: Sneaky to Denn on Wed Oct 17 2018 11:00 am

    I ahve got the raspberr.zip downloaded and transfered to microsd and
    tried on a rasb pi b+ would load but wanted to work, put it on
    a rasb pi b and worked fine thank you (maybe a upgrade to work for b+)
    but no probs it's working ok.

    just 1 think though you set variable on boot up which is good
    but when running sudo /sbbs/exec/scfg, it cames up but a error message cannot find ctrl/main.cnf missing so I cannot edit any setting,
    tried a few things ie export SBBSCTRL=/sbbs/ctrl no difference
    but the sudo /sbbs/exec/sbbs works fine, these are run in /sbbs
    just letting you now and any help you can give me will be great
    Thank you

    I never even considered if it might run on a PI B or B+
    When I did this Image I did it for th RPI 2 and RPI3 and tested it on both of those, and yes I made it so it set up the variable on boot up for convenence.

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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Denn on Wednesday, October 17, 2018 18:17:00
    On 10-16-18 23:23, Denn wrote to Mortifis <=-

    I believe So many Linux Distro's confuse and frustrate most people,
    I have tried many versions in the past and have settled on two Distro's that work well for what I do.
    1.Ubuntu Mate is my favorite
    2.Debian is my second choice.

    I like Debian/Raspian for server applications (like running a BBS). I use Mint as a desktop and quite like it, and use lubuntu for low powered netbooks.

    Maybe one day there will be a mainstream Linux Distro that will take
    out Windows.
    Yes there is a learning curve to Linux if you want to take full
    advantage of it's power but several Desktops will work for many un tech savvy people.

    Agree on both counts. The current status of Linux desktops is not bad. Not quite aas slick as Windows or Mac OS X in some areas of integration, but getting closer. I have an LG monitor that I have to use a custom Modeline in xorf.conf for, so a bit of technical knowledge is required there. But I'm not able to get native resolution on Windows, so the fact I can do it at all on Linux is a winner. For some reason. I used to be able to do it on Vista, then the ability got nuked by a Windows Update somewhere along the line and couldn't do it again. Linux 1, Windows 0. :D


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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Denn on Wednesday, October 17, 2018 18:20:00
    On 10-16-18 23:41, Denn wrote to Sneaky <=-

    I never even considered if it might run on a PI B or B+

    Synchronet runs well on a B+, I used to do it, until the SD died and I eventually rebuilt it on the Banana Pi. :)


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  • From Sneaky@1:103/705 to Denn on Wednesday, October 17, 2018 21:34:45
    Re: Rasberry Pi unix help with install
    By: Denn to Sneaky on Tue Oct 16 2018 11:41 pm

    Hi Denn

    but the sudo /sbbs/exec/sbbs works fine, these are run in /sbbs
    just letting you now and any help you can give me will be great
    Thank you

    I never even considered if it might run on a PI B or B+
    When I did this Image I did it for th RPI 2 and RPI3 and tested it on both of those, and yes I made it so it

    that's cool, just letting you now, so if you pass it on to same one else
    they will now as well


    set up the variable on boot up for convenence.

    May I ask how and were you did this

    Thank You
    Ian S 3rd Choice Core Sbbs-Rasbian Nz

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  • From Nightfox@1:103/705 to Denn on Wednesday, October 17, 2018 10:00:02
    Re: Re: Rasberry Pi unix help with install
    By: Denn to Mortifis on Tue Oct 16 2018 11:23 pm

    Maybe one day there will be a mainstream Linux Distro that will take out Windows.

    They've been saying that for years. Several Linux distros have tried (Ubuntu is one of the latest). I think there are some Linux distros that potentially can right now. Linux Mint with the Cinnamon UI is currently one of my favorites.

    Nightfox

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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Nightfox on Thursday, October 18, 2018 12:16:00
    On 10-17-18 10:00, Nightfox wrote to Denn <=-

    They've been saying that for years. Several Linux distros have tried (Ubuntu is one of the latest). I think there are some Linux distros
    that potentially can right now. Linux Mint with the Cinnamon UI is currently one of my favorites.

    Yes, Mint/Cinnamon is very good, works really well, and things like application management - when I install apps, whether from the package manager or other sources, the menu links always seem to get installed, which is very Windows like (in a good way) behaviour.


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  • From Denn@1:103/705 to Sneaky on Wednesday, October 17, 2018 23:28:10
    Re: Rasberry Pi unix help with install
    By: Sneaky to Denn on Wed Oct 17 2018 09:34 pm


    that's cool, just letting you now, so if you pass it on to same one else they will now as well


    set up the variable on boot up for convenence.

    May I ask how and were you did this

    Thank You

    I did this project awhile ago, I need load it up on my PI so I can see what file(s) I modified.
    I will look at it this weekend.

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  • From Denn@1:103/705 to Nightfox on Wednesday, October 17, 2018 23:32:57
    Re: Re: Rasberry Pi unix help with install
    By: Nightfox to Denn on Wed Oct 17 2018 10:00 am

    Maybe one day there will be a mainstream Linux Distro that will take
    out Windows.

    They've been saying that for years. Several Linux distros have tried (Ubuntu is one of the latest). I think there are some Linux distros that potentially can right now. Linux Mint with the Cinnamon UI is currently one of my favorites.


    I have tried Mint but I prefer a lighter Distro, on my VPS I run LXDE and then add only the things I want to add.
    Mint however is a great package for most people.

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  • From Nightfox@1:103/705 to Denn on Thursday, October 18, 2018 09:32:37
    Re: Re: Rasberry Pi unix help with install
    By: Denn to Nightfox on Wed Oct 17 2018 11:32 pm

    I have tried Mint but I prefer a lighter Distro, on my VPS I run LXDE and then add only the things I want to add.
    Mint however is a great package for most people.

    :) I thought Mint was fairly light, compared to my older favorite distro SuSE (now OpenSUSE), which commonly came in a DVD ISO rather than just a CD ISO.

    Nightfox

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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Nightfox on Friday, October 19, 2018 07:42:00
    On 10-18-18 09:32, Nightfox wrote to Denn <=-

    :) I thought Mint was fairly light, compared to my older favorite
    distro SuSE (now OpenSUSE), which commonly came in a DVD ISO rather
    than just a CD ISO.

    Not when you load it on an old netbook. :) I use Lubuntu for those. :) I was never a fan of Suse, just didn't like the feel of it. I was in the RedHat camp for many years, but have drifted to Debian and derivatives (Mint, [L]Ubuntu, Raspian, etc) in the last 5-10 years. :) Been meaning to look at Arch, though haven't gotten around to that one yet.


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  • From Denn@1:103/705 to Sneaky on Sunday, October 21, 2018 00:28:15
    Re: Rasberry Pi unix help with install
    By: Sneaky to Denn on Wed Oct 17 2018 09:34 pm



    set up the variable on boot up for convenence.

    May I ask how and were you did this

    sudo nano /etc/profile
    type the above command in bash then goto the bottom of the file
    and you will see it.
    it's the last line
    export SBBDCTRL=/sbbs/ctrl

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