Hello Martin!

Do you know how keep Apoint from beeping? It likes to beep on messages that match my name as I move the cursor down the message list.

I usually feed the audio from my pc to a pair of amplified speakers for music, and the unexpected beeps interrupt the otherwise perfect ambience. :(

../|ug

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Hello August!

On 21.04.19 at 22:41, August Abolins wrote to Martin Foster:

Do you know how keep Apoint from beeping?

Nope, sorry.

It likes to beep on messages that match my name as I move the
cursor down the message list.

I can't reproduce that here but I do get the occasional beep when I
press <Enter> over certain things instead of double-clicking with the
mouse.

Regards,
Martin

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Hello Martin!

On 4/22/2019, Martin Foster wrote to August Abolins:

It likes to beep on messages that match my name as I move the
cursor down the message list.

I can't reproduce that here but I do get the occasional beep when
I press <Enter> over certain things instead of double-clicking
with the mouse.

I think I found how to provoke the beep.

When you are in a message area with fresh never-before read messages, and you start reading, the moment you open the first message addressed to you, the system will beep. It will beep on the next message that is addressed to you.

It will beep on the previously read messages too! :(

It will only stop the beep once you've read all the messages addressed to you *and* you CLOSE the Area. If you open the Area again, no beeps on your messages.

Not a show stopper. I could disable Windows system sounds. But I need the sounds to indicate certain things on my pc.

../|ug

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Hello August!

On 22.04.19 at 18:10, August Abolins wrote to Martin Foster:

It likes to beep on messages that match my name as I move the
cursor down the message list.

I can't reproduce that here but I do get the occasional beep when
I press <Enter> over certain things instead of double-clicking
with the mouse.

I think I found how to provoke the beep.

When you are in a message area with fresh never-before read messages, and you start reading, the moment you open the first message addressed to
you, the system will beep. It will beep on the next message that is addressed to you.

It will beep on the previously read messages too! :(

It will only stop the beep once you've read all the messages addressed to you *and* you CLOSE the Area. If you open the Area again, no beeps on your messages.

Yes, I can see now that it's connected with messages to me. Thanks for
the heads-up.

Not a show stopper.

I agree but nevertheless I find it somewhat irritating.

Regards,
Martin

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Hello Martin!

On 4/25/2019, Martin Foster wrote to August Abolins:

Yes, I can see now that it's connected with messages to me. Thanks for
the heads-up.

Not a show stopper.

I agree but nevertheless I find it somewhat irritating.

You'd think that maybe there would have been a consideration to allow configuring the audio for the beep. I mean, there are certainly a lot of options for fonts and colours. But the audio was overlooked? :(

I actually *do* have Windows Sounds disabled. Sound Scheme=No Sounds. But Apoint forces one out. Maybe they're doing it with an Ascii BEL char, or ^G ?

I'm going to try this little trick at the CMD line:

net stop beep

[some time passes..]

YEP. That works! I had a few unread messages addressed to me in another echo,
and I didn't hear a peep!

Added BONUS: no more beep at the EOF in the OXP editor!


../|ug

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Hello August!

On 25.04.19 at 19:18:45, August Abolins wrote to Martin Foster:

Yes, I can see now that it's connected with messages to me. Thanks for
the heads-up.

Not a show stopper.

I agree but nevertheless I find it somewhat irritating.

[snip]

I'm going to try this little trick at the CMD line:

net stop beep

[some time passes..]

YEP. That works! I had a few unread messages addressed to me in another echo, and I didn't hear a peep!

Added BONUS: no more beep at the EOF in the OXP editor!

Excellent and I'm really pleased for you that you've found a solution and shared it with us. I'm sure the beeps must have been driving you mad.

Regards,
Martin

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Hello Martin!

** 26.04.19 - 13:26, Martin Foster wrote to August Abolins:

net stop beep

YEP. That works! I had a few unread messages addressed to me in another AA>> echo, and I didn't hear a peep!

Added BONUS: no more beep at the EOF in the OXP editor!

Excellent and I'm really pleased for you that you've found a solution and shared it with us. I'm sure the beeps must have been driving you mad.

Even with Window's Sound Scheme=No Sounds, I get a nice "gentle" windchime-like sound when my 3G mobile connects. I get a simple one-tone beep when the pc settles down into Hibernate or back again. But, Apoint's and OXP sounds would be very loud with an annoying tone. And.. if I
happend to be playing some music through the audio-out to my amplified speakers, the Apoint/OXP sounds trumped everything and would make me jump!
LOL

"net stop beep" disables the sounds produced by the programs, but my audio out for music is unaffected.

The command is active per Windows session. I use Hibernate most of the
time so it is not a problem. But at next full reboot "net stop beep"
would need to be reapplied.

For a permanent setting, use:

sc config beep start= disabled

These should also work in Win7/8/10, IIRC.


../|ug

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