• oxp +anothernet

    From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to Martin Foster on Friday, March 20, 2020 23:05:00
    Hello Martin!

    I am trying to add FSXnet to OXP, but the packets are encountering an
    error on Import.

    The call goes well, I receive a packet:

    2020-03-20 22:47:08 netcall: Output mcInfo: b34f27b2.fr1 received
    2020-03-20 22:47:08 ncmodem: Log: * Rcvd b34f27b2.fr1, 4269b
    2020-03-20 22:47:09 xpncfido: Decompressiong packets: H:\DOWNLOADS\OPENXP\SPOOL\b34f27b2.fr1
    2020-03-20 22:47:09 xpncfido: H:\DOWNLOADS\OPENXP\SPOOL\b34f27b2.fr1 is compressed packet

    ..but I haven't set up decompression for it. I hope to get uncompressed packets, later.

    Meanwhile, I unpack the file above, and start the Import/ Read Other
    Format steps. I navigate to the PKT file, select it, but OXP reports:

    2020-03-20 23:02:53 zftools: converting fido to ZC
    2020-03-20 23:02:53 zftools: conversion finished
    2020-03-20 23:02:53 _fehler: Error while converting messages

    What could be the problem?

    Aren't all PKT files alike? :(



    ../|ug

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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12 to August Abolins on Saturday, March 21, 2020 11:15:10
    Re: oxp +anothernet
    By: August Abolins to Martin Foster on Fri Mar 20 2020 23:05:00


    The call goes well, I receive a packet:

    2020-03-20 22:47:08 netcall: Output mcInfo: b34f27b2.fr1 received 2020-03-20 22:47:08 ncmodem: Log: * Rcvd b34f27b2.fr1, 4269b
    2020-03-20 22:47:09 xpncfido: Decompressiong packets:
    H:\DOWNLOADS\OPENXP\SPOOL\b34f27b2.fr1
    2020-03-20 22:47:09 xpncfido: H:\DOWNLOADS\OPENXP\SPOOL\b34f27b2.fr1 is
    compressed packet

    this wording is wrong... the above file is a bundle... not a packet... bundles contain one or more packets... packets contain zero or more messages...


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  • From August Abolins@2:221/360 to mark lewis on Saturday, March 21, 2020 20:12:41
    On 21/03/2020 11:15 a.m., mark lewis : August Abolins wrote:


    2020-03-20 22:47:08 netcall: Output mcInfo: b34f27b2.fr1 received
    2020-03-20 22:47:08 ncmodem: Log: * Rcvd b34f27b2.fr1, 4269b
    2020-03-20 22:47:09 xpncfido: Decompressiong packets:
    H:\DOWNLOADS\OPENXP\SPOOL\b34f27b2.fr1
    2020-03-20 22:47:09 xpncfido: H:\DOWNLOADS\OPENXP\SPOOL\b34f27b2.fr1
    is compressed packet
    ^^^^^^
    Hmmm. --------------^


    this wording is wrong... the above file is a bundle... not a
    packet... bundles contain one or more packets... packets contain
    zero or more messages...

    Yeah.. I see the incorrect term used in the last line in the log, and then consequently repeated by me!

    Wrt OXP that is a minor (ie. low priority) change.

    But I appreciate your clarification.



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  • From Martin Foster@2:310/31.3 to August Abolins on Tuesday, March 24, 2020 13:07:00
    Hello August!

    *** 20.03.20 at 23:05, August Abolins wrote to Martin Foster:

    I am trying to add FSXnet to OXP, but the packets are encountering an error on Import.

    We fix one problem and another one comes rolling through the door <sigh>.

    The call goes well, I receive a packet:

    2020-03-20 22:47:08 netcall: Output mcInfo: b34f27b2.fr1 received 2020-03-20 22:47:08 ncmodem: Log: * Rcvd b34f27b2.fr1, 4269b
    2020-03-20 22:47:09 xpncfido: Decompressiong packets: H:\DOWNLOADS\OPENXP\SPOOL\b34f27b2.fr1 2020-03-20 22:47:09 xpncfido: H:\DOWNLOADS\OPENXP\SPOOL\b34f27b2.fr1 is compressed packet

    ..but I haven't set up decompression for it.

    Well maybe you should until .....

    I hope to get uncompressed packets, later.

    ..... your uplink confirms when this is going to happen.

    Meanwhile, I unpack the file above, and start the Import/ Read Other Format steps. I navigate to the PKT file, select it, but OXP reports:

    2020-03-20 23:02:53 zftools: converting fido to ZC
    2020-03-20 23:02:53 zftools: conversion finished
    2020-03-20 23:02:53 _fehler: Error while converting messages

    What could be the problem?

    Corrupt mail packet?

    If you still have the mail packet and you can find a packet
    sniffer(InspectA was a good one), that may throw some light on the issue.

    Regards,
    Martin

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  • From Martin Foster@2:310/31.3 to mark lewis on Tuesday, March 24, 2020 13:12:00
    Hello mark!

    *** 21.03.20 at 11:15, mark lewis wrote to August Abolins:

    [snip]
    this wording is wrong... the above file is a bundle... not a packet... bundles contain one or more packets... packets contain zero or more messages...

    Yep, absolutely spot on and I'll try and fix the technically incorrect wording for the next release.

    Regards,
    Martin

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  • From Martin Foster@2:310/31.3 to August Abolins on Tuesday, March 24, 2020 13:15:00
    Hello August!

    *** 21.03.20 at 20:12, August Abolins wrote to mark lewis:

    [snip]
    Yeah.. I see the incorrect term used in the last line in the log, and
    then consequently repeated by me!

    Wrt OXP that is a minor (ie. low priority) change.

    Yep, along with all the other low priority stuff, some of which has been hanging about in there for the last 20 years :(

    Regards,
    Martin

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  • From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to Martin Foster on Tuesday, March 24, 2020 18:27:00
    Hello Martin!

    ** 24.03.20 - 13:07, Martin Foster wrote to August Abolins:

    What could be the problem?

    Corrupt mail packet?

    If you still have the mail packet and you can find a packet
    sniffer(InspectA was a good one), that may throw some light on the issue.

    Thanks for the InspectA tip. The program confirms that the .pkt files are type 2+ and that all is good.

    What next? I can send you a few of them.



    ../|ug

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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12 to August Abolins on Wednesday, March 25, 2020 10:19:30
    Re: oxp +anothernet
    By: August Abolins to Martin Foster on Tue Mar 24 2020 18:27:00


    If you still have the mail packet and you can find a packet sniffer(InspectA was a good one), that may throw some light
    on the issue.

    Thanks for the InspectA tip.

    there are other pkt dumping/analyzing tools available, too... inspecta is really a full blown file manager with pkt handling capabilities...

    The program confirms that the .pkt files are type 2+ and
    that all is good.

    that's just the header... is the pkt complete, though... scroll to the last message in the pkt and see if it terminated properly... it may not and would be
    a truncated pkt which might toss all the messages up to the broken one... it depends on the tosser code, though...


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  • From Martin Foster@2:310/31.3 to August Abolins on Sunday, March 29, 2020 08:43:00
    Hello August!

    *** 24.03.20 at 18:27, August Abolins wrote to Martin Foster:

    What could be the problem?

    Corrupt mail packet?

    If you still have the mail packet and you can find a packet
    sniffer(InspectA was a good one), that may throw some light on the
    issue.

    Thanks for the InspectA tip. The program confirms that the .pkt files
    are type 2+ and that all is good.

    What next? I can send you a few of them.

    They wouldn't be any good to me because I don't have an FSXNet server configured, as I'm not on FSXNet.

    What do you have in the "Area prefix" field in the "Robots" section of
    your FSXNet server config?

    Regards,
    Martin

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  • From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to Martin Foster on Sunday, March 29, 2020 21:49:00
    Hello Martin!

    ** 29.03.20 - 08:43, Martin Foster wrote to August Abolins:


    What next? I can send you a few of them.

    They wouldn't be any good to me because I don't have an FSXNet server
    configured, as I'm not on FSXNet.

    BUT.. I thought OXP is open to importing *ANY* pkts?


    What do you have in the "Area prefix" field in the "Robots" section of
    your FSXNet server config?

    You didn't tell me HOW to get to that section! :) But my handy openxp.kolico.ca project reminded me that it was:

    /Edit/Servers/Edit/Robots

    �������������������������������������������������������������������Ŀ
    � 21:4/106 Fido Ogg �
    �F 2:221/1 Fido August Abolins It's too cold outside! �
    � �
    � �
    � �
    � �
    � �� Robots Options ������������������������Ŀ �
    � � � �
    � � Areafix Name Areafix  � �
    � � Password ######## � �
    � � � �
    � � [x] "+" for area requests � �
    � � [ ] Commands in subject � �
    � � [ ] d'Bridge Areafix � �
    � � � �
    � � AllFix Name Allfix  � �
    � � Password ######## � �
    � � � �
    � � Misc. Area prefix /FSXnet/  � �
    � � � �
    � ������������������������������������ [F2] �� �
    � �
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    ../|ug

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  • From Martin Foster@2:310/31.3 to August Abolins on Tuesday, March 31, 2020 09:29:00
    Hello August!

    *** 29.03.20 at 21:49, August Abolins wrote to Martin Foster:

    What next? I can send you a few of them.

    They wouldn't be any good to me because I don't have an FSXNet server
    configured, as I'm not on FSXNet.

    BUT.. I thought OXP is open to importing *ANY* pkts?

    Yes, indeed it is and I'll expand on that later(if I need to). In the meantime, have you tried importing any of these FSXNet mail packets into
    your WinPoint setup?

    What do you have in the "Area prefix" field in the "Robots" section of
    your FSXNet server config?

    You didn't tell me HOW to get to that section! :)

    Ah well, that was your leetle test for the day :-))

    But my handy openxp.kolico.ca project reminded me that it was:

    /Edit/Servers/Edit/Robots

    Good :)

    [snip]
    � � Misc. Area prefix /FSXnet/  �

    OK, test passed, 10/10 :-))

    Regards,
    Martin

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  • From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to Martin Foster on Wednesday, April 01, 2020 23:40:00
    Hello Martin!

    After adding a new "othernet", how can I get oxp to recognize the alias
    that I use?

    For example, I use "Ogg" for messages in FSXnet. But oxp's message
    listing does not highlight the messages that are From or To "Ogg"

    The highlight would be nice so that I could spot the messages to me
    easier.


    ../|ug

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  • From Martin Foster@2:310/31.3 to August Abolins on Sunday, April 05, 2020 11:17:00
    Hello August!

    *** 01.04.20 at 23:40, August Abolins wrote to Martin Foster:

    After adding a new "othernet", how can I get oxp to recognize the alias that I use?

    For example, I use "Ogg" for messages in FSXnet. But oxp's message listing does not highlight the messages that are From or To "Ogg"

    The highlight would be nice so that I could spot the messages to me easier.

    As I've never used an alias with an FTN-compatible network, I'm sorry
    but I don't know. Perhaps you might like to ask in the support
    newsgroup, I'm sure there's somebody in there who may be able to help
    you ;)

    Regards,
    Martin

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    * Origin: Bitz-Box - Bradford - UK (2:310/31.3)
  • From Martin Foster@2:310/31.3 to August Abolins on Monday, April 13, 2020 14:34:10
    Hello August!

    *** 31.03.20 at 9:29:00, Martin Foster wrote to August Abolins:

    [snip]
    BUT.. I thought OXP is open to importing *ANY* pkts?

    Yes, indeed it is and I'll expand on that later(if I need to). In the meantime, have you tried importing any of these FSXNet mail packets into your WinPoint setup?

    Have you tried my suggestion yet?

    Regards,
    Martin

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  • From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to Martin Foster on Monday, April 13, 2020 10:31:00
    Hello Martin!

    ** 13.04.20 - 14:34, Martin Foster wrote to August Abolins:

    BUT.. I thought OXP is open to importing *ANY* pkts?

    Yes, indeed it is and I'll expand on that later(if I need to). In the
    meantime, have you tried importing any of these FSXNet mail packets into
    your WinPoint setup?

    Have you tried my suggestion yet?


    Sorry.. I got sidetracked or something.

    Here is the result.

    13.04.20 10:23:19 AM Starting Import
    13.04.20 10:23:19 AM 1 messages from b34f0322.pkt
    13.04.20 10:23:19 AM Packet b34f0322.pkt has been moved to backup directory 13.04.20 10:23:19 AM 1 messages from b34f27b1.pkt
    13.04.20 10:23:19 AM Packet b34f27b1.pkt has been moved to backup directory 13.04.20 10:23:19 AM 3 messages from b34f396f.pkt
    13.04.20 10:23:19 AM Packet b34f396f.pkt has been moved to backup directory 13.04.20 10:23:19 AM 4 messages from b34f4a41.pkt
    13.04.20 10:23:19 AM Packet b34f4a41.pkt has been moved to backup directory 13.04.20 10:23:19 AM Area NETMAIL received 2 messages
    13.04.20 10:23:19 AM Area BAD received 7 messages
    13.04.20 10:23:19 AM Tossed 9 messages from 4 packets

    + Origin: WinPoint Integrated Tosser (0:0/0)


    MEANWHILE, 2 of the above contained netmail messages that WERE
    successfully posted in the netmail area.

    Thus "Tossed 9" - ""BAD received 7" = 2


    BUT.. they tossed SUCCESSFULLY in APoint.

    Hmmmm. So what would have been the problem? I could still send you
    those .pkt files.


    ../|ug

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