• Pascal Tutor?

    From Charles Stephenson@1:226/17 to Kurt Weiske on Wednesday, June 10, 2020 01:44:23
    Re: Pascal Tutor?
    By: Kurt Weiske to Charles Stephenson on Thu May 28 2020 08:36 pm

    When I was starting out, most of the early CS classes were taught in Pascal. Later, we moved to C. Pascal was a much simpler language for teaching computer science concepts than a lower-level language, and it's ability to easily code quick hacks in it is bested only by BASIC or another interpeted language.


    I started the basics of Pascal in my teens, and that's why I choose Pascal over
    trying to learn 'C'. most that I talked to said if I could get Pascal down, it would be easier to learn other languages.

    Thanks!
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  • From Charles Stephenson@1:226/17 to mark lewis on Wednesday, June 10, 2020 01:45:02
    Re: Pascal Tutor?
    By: mark lewis to Charles Stephenson on Fri May 29 2020 09:10 am

    yep! plus pacal teaches you structured programming which will be very helpful when learning/using other languages... especially those that don't enforce structure which leads to them holding the gun for you, pointing it at your feet, and pulling the trigger all the while trying to be helpful ;)

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  • From Charles Stephenson@1:226/17 to Dan Cross on Wednesday, June 10, 2020 01:48:21
    Re: Re: Pascal Tutor?
    By: Dan Cross to Charles Stephenson on Sat May 30 2020 06:52 am

    I wouldn't bother starting with Pascal.

    The critical thing when learning how to program is
    really learning how to think algorithmically; to that
    end, Pascal is an OK language (and was pretty good
    when it was introduced) but it's become dated and
    there's enough minutia that one has to keep track of
    that, even as simple as it is, it can be difficult
    to see the forest for the trees.

    'algorithmically thinking'. That was one of the key points of why I wanted to learn Pascal. I figured it would do EXACTLY what you said 'Go' would do. lay down the blueprints for other languages. I'm saving this post for future ref.
    This was VERY VERY helpful.

    Thank you SO much.
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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Charles Stephenson on Wednesday, June 10, 2020 19:50:00
    On 06-10-20 01:44, Charles Stephenson wrote to Kurt Weiske <=-

    I started the basics of Pascal in my teens, and that's why I choose

    As did I, and I was quite proficient in Pascal by the time I was 20. I was also incorporating 8086 assembler into my Pascal programs (there were a couple of ways of doing this with TP) and doing some low level DOS stuff that way.

    Pascal over trying to learn 'C'. most that I talked to said if I could
    get Pascal down, it would be easier to learn other languages.

    Nowadays, I am at the whim of where my brain wants to go, and coding doesn't seem to be the place. I know I can do it, because I've done it before. :)


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  • From Dan Cross@3:770/100 to Charles Stephenson on Saturday, June 13, 2020 02:30:21
    On 10 Jun 2020 at 01:48a, Charles Stephenson pondered and said...

    'algorithmically thinking'. That was one of the key points of why I
    wanted to learn Pascal. I figured it would do EXACTLY what you said 'Go' would do. lay down the blueprints for other languages. I'm saving this post for future ref.

    Indeed! I think that purpose is better served by
    other languages these days: Racket and Go specifically
    are likely to both be more illuminating than Pascal.
    Pascal was a fine language for its time, but it should
    be allowed to go out to pasture now.

    This was VERY VERY helpful.

    Thank you SO much.

    Sure thing!

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  • From Charles Stephenson@1:226/16 to Tony Langdon on Saturday, June 20, 2020 08:02:40
    On Jun 10th 8:38 am Tony Langdon said...
    As did I, and I was quite proficient in Pascal by the time I was 20. I was also incorporating 8086 assembler into my Pascal programs (there were a couple of ways of doing this with TP) and doing some low level DOS stuff that way.

    I remember seeing a few people doing that (actually reading about it in FidoNet
    YEARS ago)




    On Jun 10th 8:38 am Tony Langdon said...
    Nowadays, I am at the whim of where my brain wants to go, and coding doesn't seem to be the place. I know I can do it, because I've done it before. :)

    I've been wanting to get into modern programming for sometime now. I've haven't
    had the time or mind-frame to get back into it yet. I've seen some pretty good looking online classes I've been thinking about doing too. Juts have to get my mind into it. Hard lately. Too many 'real life' issues to deal with.



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  • From Karel Kral@2:423/39 to Charles Stephenson on Saturday, June 20, 2020 15:33:57
    Hello Charles!

    20 Jun 20 08:02, you wrote to Tony Langdon:

    I remember seeing a few people doing that (actually
    reading about it in FidoNet YEARS ago)

    inline? I sometimes did it, that time.

    btw, do you remember that virus which infected only .pas?

    It was great time...

    Karel

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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Charles Stephenson on Sunday, June 21, 2020 18:57:00
    On 06-20-20 08:02, Charles Stephenson wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    On Jun 10th 8:38 am Tony Langdon said...
    As did I, and I was quite proficient in Pascal by the time I was 20. I was also incorporating 8086 assembler into my Pascal programs (there were a couple of ways of doing this with TP) and doing some low level DOS
    stuff that way.

    I remember seeing a few people doing that (actually reading about it in FidoNet YEARS ago)

    Wasn't me, I was doing that stuff 4-5 years before I started BBSing. :)

    I've been wanting to get into modern programming for sometime now. I've haven't had the time or mind-frame to get back into it yet. I've seen
    some pretty good looking online classes I've been thinking about doing too. Juts have to get my mind into it. Hard lately. Too many 'real
    life' issues to deal with.

    I'm currently up to my ears in radio over IP systems, both analogue and digital (as in the on air interface - obviously the IP side is digital).


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  • From Charles Stephenson@1:226/17 to Karel Kral on Tuesday, July 28, 2020 04:01:08
    Re: Pascal Tutor?
    By: Karel Kral to Charles Stephenson on Sat Jun 20 2020 03:33 pm

    I remember seeing a few people doing that (actually
    reading about it in FidoNet YEARS ago)

    inline? I sometimes did it, that time.

    btw, do you remember that virus which infected only .pas?

    It was great time...

    That DOES sound familiar. There were some 'cool' virus' out back in the day! --- SBBSecho 3.11-Linux
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