Hello mark!

30 May 20, mark lewis wrote to Richard Menedetter:

Anyhow it is great that it is available and maybe other people do
more memory intensive stuff on their Pis :)

try using an rPi as a SQL server and you could easily find yourself wanting/needing more than 8Gig of RAM...

May i remind you two what the pi was build for?

As far as i remember it's a low cost plattform for education and was never designed for productive server operation.

More RAM more Power for serving is not the direction of the pi.

Btw, isn't the first step for RAM duplication the downgrade from 64 to 32bit?

;-)

Regards

Kai

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Hello Alexey!

31 May 20, Alexey Vissarionov wrote to Richard Menedetter:

Do you need that amount of memory?

I do. And even more - 32 Gb would be ok for now.

Well, I know that would be something other than Rpi...

I deleted an answer to your "give a fuck for other - i use what i need" mail where i tried to remind you that the pi and you are aiming in different directions.
We can see now that you know that already. The next logical step is simple. You
should give a fuck for the pi and use the hardware you really need. ;)

Regards

Kai

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Hello Alexey!

31 May 2020 23:17, Alexey Vissarionov wrote to Maurice Kinal:

USB mass storage works just fine.

true

but rpi cant boot it self from them, so most old rpi still need to have /boot on microsd cards

I prefer to avoid using Broadcom shit, so I run WiFi APs with RT5370.

oh


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Hello Maurice!

31 May 2020 21:40, Maurice Kinal wrote to Benny Pedersen:

why did you not just look at pi desktop at http://raspberrypi.dk/
and yes i have one of them

We talked about this before.

yes

If I were serious about ARM based PCs I
would be more interested in what Alexey referred to in an earlier post today.

is ther raspberry pi without arm cpus ?

Also it would need to have at least one m.2 nvme compatible
slot for the main boot disk instead of the micro sd interface.

i have the add one card in a rpi2 and tested rpi3, will like to have gentoo on it, just where it gentoo is precompiled on some other computer i have

I think we should leave the micro sd cards for digital cameras and crippled so-called smart devices that Android lives on.

sure just PXE boot then :)

Speaking of which, I am still waiting for the bluetooth keyboard
before taking up the termux challenge again.

... things take time

I already have a binkd
for it which I tested sending a test msg to you not too long ago.

pretty cool, just remember not to uninstall termux now, this will delete all your work, if programmer of termux will make a tarball of envoirement before he
let android delete all it woild be saved work in the download dir of the device, hopefully this can be hoook scripted or api in android to make this

I plan to compile the Husky stuff once it arrives.

it will be a dream machine in the pocket :)

I think this will
have more use than a raspi desktop since almost everyone and their dog has a smartphone.

the desktop could stay in shell, all i need

Not me but I do have a 10" tablet I use for testing
my wireless networks.

here its 49" :)

Het leven is goed,
Maurice

+1

Regards Benny

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Good ${greeting_time}, Benny!

02 Jun 2020 23:27:04, you wrote to Maurice Kinal:

If I were serious about ARM based PCs I would be more interested
in what Alexey referred to in an earlier post today.

is ther raspberry pi without arm cpus ?

No. And for now, ARM64 (aarch64, ARMv8) is the most advanced architecture.

Also it would need to have at least one m.2 nvme compatible slot
for the main boot disk instead of the micro sd interface.

2 MK: I'd rather have PCI-E x4 (or even x1) slot.

i have the add one card in a rpi2 and tested rpi3, will like to
have gentoo on it, just where it gentoo is precompiled on some
other computer i have

So what prevents you from doing that?

I think we should leave the micro sd cards for digital cameras and
crippled so-called smart devices that Android lives on.

sure just PXE boot then :)

SD cards have one important advantage: they can work in the SPI mode, thus allowing bare CPUs (all modern CPUs a really SoCs) interact with them.

And, anyway, having microSD slot is much better than soldered eMMC chip.

I plan to compile the Husky stuff once it arrives.

it will be a dream machine in the pocket :)

I almost have one. Alas, for now it's just RPi4-4Gb.


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Hallo Benny!

is ther raspberry pi without arm cpus ?

No but there is an Atomic Pi which is an Intel based system; x5-z8350 Atom. That makes it compatible with the standard x86_64 based Linux distributions. Personally I don't care much for it for the same reasons as the rasperry pi's.

sure just PXE boot then :)

No thank you. I can wait until something better comes along. If the raspi4b with 8G ram lost the onboard wifi it would be more attractive to me at this point in time. I'd muuch prefer adding my own wifi that had connectors for external antennas and can handle the kernel's wireless mesh (802.11s).

just remember not to uninstall termux now, this will delete all
your work

Yes I know but thank you for the heads up. At the moment I am still waiting for the bluetooth keyboard which they tell me should arrive today or at least before the end of the week. We'll soon see ... I hope.

it will be a dream machine in the pocket :)

Unless you have very big pockets a 10" tablet won't fit. With my eyesight I require a bigger display to be able to read it. However whatever works on the tablet should work on a smartphone that will fit in a pocket so all is not lost.

the desktop could stay in shell, all i need

I agree ... or as you say +1. :-)

We should be in business very soon.

Het leven is goed,
Maurice

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Hallo Alexey!

2 MK: I'd rather have PCI-E x4 (or even x1) slot.

Agreed except I have yet to see any pci slots on any raspberry pi. An x4 slot would be needed for nvme ssd's to get the full potential but at least a x1 if msata was used instead. They are a tad faster than regular sata drives given the immediate response. However none of these are an option for raspi's other than through the usb port. Therefore the newer raspi4 with usb3 ports are the more attractive option at this stage of the game ... especially with 8G of ram.

And, anyway, having microSD slot is much better than soldered
eMMC chip.

Neither are a good option.

Het leven is goed,
Maurice

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