Hi August!

01 Jun 2020 18:56, from August Abolins -> Wilfred van Velzen:

What purpose does U,MOB serve if not to advertise "hey folks.. i own a cell phone.. but you won't find any useful technical info for your mailer."

I do not know why they are there.
But I agree that those "nodes" should be points.
Nodes need to be reachable at least in the ZMH.
Those "nodes" are not, hence they should simply use point addresses.
I am sure that there are enough nodes that are happy to give those people a point address.

CU, Ricsi

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Re: Nodelist Flags
By: Richard Menedetter to August Abolins on Tue Jun 02 2020 11:19:14

What purpose does U,MOB serve if not to advertise "hey folks.. i own
a cell phone.. but you won't find any useful technical info for your
mailer."

I do not know why they are there.

ask your ZC... he's the one that introduced it and made it an "approved" flag...


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Michiel wrote (2020-06-01):

But that doesn't mean you can put whatever you like in
there. It should serve a purpose to the function of the
nodelist. BBS connectivity for users doesn't qualify.

What purpose does U,MOB serve if not to advertise "hey folks.. i
own a cell phone.. but you won't find any useful technical info for
your mailer."

MvdV> IMNSHO, those ,MOB nodes should never have made it into the nodelist.

On one hand the ZC2 seems to be completely unqualified to make sane decisions about user flags, one the other hand user flags should be restricted and approved. Fidonet at its best.

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Hello Oli,

On Tuesday June 02 2020 17:49, you wrote to me:

MvdV>> IMNSHO, those ,MOB nodes should never have made it into the
MvdV>> nodelist.

On one hand the ZC2 seems to be completely unqualified to make sane decisions about user flags, one the other hand user flags should be restricted and approved. Fidonet at its best.

I expressed my views on that in my Fidonews article titled "Why I resigned as FTSC administrator" in Fidonews 36:43 of 28 Oct 2019. ATM, I have nothing to add to that.

Cheers, Michiel

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On 31 May 2020 at 12:33p, Wilfred van Velzen pondered and said...

I wanted to give a controverial example (without making it personal),
why you don't want to allow anything in the userflags. Apparently my example was controverial enough to make my point...

Gotcha... all noted. Thanks Wilfred.

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On 31 May 2020 at 10:20p, Alexey Vissarionov pondered and said...

Forget of it. Immediately and forever.
The nodelist is for Fidonet nodes, not for BBSes.

Hi Alexey, thanks for your feedback.

Best, Paul

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On 31 May 2020 at 11:30p, Alexey Vissarionov pondered and said...

,U,BBS:ssh://bbs@some.host.name:22

Thanks for your suggestions.

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Hello Paul!

30 May 20 12:29, you wrote to all:

Guys some info / thoughts please

If I wanted to signal a BBS accepts users on a non standard port for Telnet or SSH or... what is the best way to show this in a FTN
nodelist?

Since a FTN nodelist is used to facilitate the interconnecting of mailers
and not BBS's. I am thinking that a BBS list might be a better place to
use such a flag. Just my thought on the subject.


Jeff


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Hello Paul!

15 Jun 20 13:38, I wrote to you:

If I wanted to signal a BBS accepts users on a non standard port
for Telnet or SSH or... what is the best way to show this in a
FTN nodelist?

Since a FTN nodelist is used to facilitate the interconnecting of
mailers and not BBS's. I am thinking that a BBS list might be a better place to use such a flag. Just my thought on the subject.

Sorry, second thought. I can see where a nodelist might be a convenient
place to use such a flag. But... I don't see it as the proper place since
the flag's use isn't FTN mailer related but BBS related.


Jeff


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On 15 Jun 2020 at 01:46p, Jeff Smith pondered and said...

Since a FTN nodelist is used to facilitate the interconnecting of mailers and not BBS's. I am thinking that a BBS list might be a bette place to use such a flag. Just my thought on the subject.

Sorry, second thought. I can see where a nodelist might be a convenient place to use such a flag. But... I don't see it as the proper place since the flag's use isn't FTN mailer related but BBS related.

Yep thanks Jeff.. all good thoughts. I agree.

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