• Re: Open / Closed

    From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Paul Hayton on Tuesday, June 12, 2018 11:20:49
    On 11 Jun 18 19:28:51, Paul Hayton said the following to Nick Andre:

    Anyways interested in your thoughts about the pros for closed source and th potential pitfalls (if that's the right way to frame it?) of that model and what you think coders engaged in a closed source model may wish to consider if/when they opt to leave a project for good / a long long time.. ?

    It depends on the project and if there are any viable alternatives, I think.

    Nick

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (1:229/426)
  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Mark Hofmann on Tuesday, June 12, 2018 11:23:53
    On 11 Jun 18 11:19:50, Mark Hofmann said the following to Paul Hayton:

    Doesn't WikiLeaks have something similar to this?

    An encrypted/password protected Torrent that contains the D'Bridge source code. The password only gets released if Nick's PC doesn't contact it for over 12 months.

    The D'Bridge source code is in the hands of a couple people, in the event that something happens to me... and no, not by autoerotic asphyxiation.

    Nick

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (1:229/426)
  • From Paul Hayton@3:770/100 to Nick Andre on Monday, June 11, 2018 19:28:51
    On 06/10/18, Nick Andre pondered and said...

    opensource is nice :)

    A wise man told me "I'm afraid now this is a knee-jerk response in a way you may not like to hear".

    [snip]

    For years as a Fido developer I have had the pleasure of receiving Echomail, Netmail and Internet email about why D'Bridge is not open source. And when I state my logical reasons why, most of the time I am looked upon as an idiot because I don't publish source code like Mystic, HPT and Synchronet.

    Yep just agreeing with Al, Mystic has been closed for a while again..

    Nick, I'm not too bothered either way on the whole Windows vs Linux thing and relative merits of Open vs Closed.... but reading your post (which was fun to read BTW :)) made me wonder about your thoughts on the issue of software longevity / support...

    By this I mean if something is closed source and for whatever reason the
    author leaves the scene never to return , do you think that the closed source model is good or bad when I'm guessing the evolution of the software ceases
    at the point because no one else is able to pick up the code and develop it further?

    Actually Renegade was an interesting one in that regards ... (and no I'm that ofait with all the ins and outs of the history) but I recall how things
    stopped for a time when Cott stopped coding it, then as you know things
    morphed a fair bit over time as closed source code was handed over to people (I'm sure in good faith at the time) for the software to be changed etc. further, and not always for the better perhaps as you may well agree :)

    Anyways interested in your thoughts about the pros for closed source and the potential pitfalls (if that's the right way to frame it?) of that model and what you think coders engaged in a closed source model may wish to consider if/when they opt to leave a project for good / a long long time.. ?

    Best, Paul

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A39 2018/04/21 (Windows/32)
    * Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (3:770/100)
  • From Mark Hofmann@1:261/1304 to Paul Hayton on Monday, June 11, 2018 11:19:50

    Anyways interested in your thoughts about the pros for closed source and the potential pitfalls (if that's the right way to frame it?) of that
    model and what you think coders engaged in a closed source model may wish to consider if/when they opt to leave a project for good / a long long time.. ?

    Doesn't WikiLeaks have something similar to this?

    An encrypted/password protected Torrent that contains the D'Bridge source code.
    The password only gets released if Nick's PC doesn't contact it for over 12 months.

    Would this be considered "hybrid-source"? :)

    - Mark

    --- WWIVToss v.1.52
    * Origin: http://www.weather-station.org * Bel Air, MD -USA (1:261/1304.0)
  • From Mark Hofmann@1:261/1304 to Nick Andre on Sunday, June 17, 2018 22:25:58

    The D'Bridge source code is in the hands of a couple people, in the event that something happens to me... and no, not by autoerotic asphyxiation.

    That's good to hear - not the part about if something happened to you. :) Avoiding more abandonware is the main thing.

    The legacy must live on...

    - Mark

    --- WWIVToss v.1.52
    * Origin: http://www.weather-station.org * Bel Air, MD -USA (1:261/1304.0)
  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to Mark Hofmann on Monday, June 18, 2018 08:52:35

    The legacy must live on...

    Yes.

    \%/@rd

    --- D'Bridge 3.99 SR28
    * Origin: Resist-Insist-Persist-Enlist / onwardtogether.org (2:292/854)