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    From MICHAEL LOO@1:123/140 to RUTH HAFFLY on Friday, May 24, 2019 05:52:38
    than a neutral or even a negative one. Letting
    a smile be your umbrella is a nice thought,
    but you get wet anyway.
    A rather Eeyore-ish outlook. (G) Guess you'll just have to work out your
    best compromise between half empty and half full.

    I admit Eeyore was the only character I didn't find
    unrealistic. Not that I read or watched any of the
    manifestations other than stumbling through Winnie
    Ille Pu.

    certain others like their steaks seasoned
    before cooking.
    Steve is the one that usually seasons our steaks before grilling them. I don't know if he uses any salt. I'll set out onion and garlic powders 7
    black pepper for him to use, but often times he will get something else
    from the spice cabinet.

    It's customary - and most prefer - to use salt
    on their steaks before cooking.

    cooking in September.
    I'll remember not to marinate anything in apple
    juice and corn syrup, too. We have quite a few
    dietary things going on in the echo.
    Part of the not so fun part of getting older.

    One adapts.

    Eh, it's reasonably full of good stuff to
    start with.
    OK, just don't let the nooks and crannies get over filled with junk stuff.
    Why not?
    Your choice. (G)

    As I said, it's an imperfect figure of speech.

    Putting zucchini in this would make it perfect, a
    quadrifecta of offensiveness if you will -
    Apple salsa
    categories: relish, condiment, something to offend everyone
    servings: 4
    I can't even call it salsa with a straight face.
    Mixed up mess of stuff, but not salsa.

    Anything that's spoonable over another food or
    scoopable with a scoop is salsa.

    +
    Whatever works best for you.
    My point being that taking a broader view
    makes more sense. Stealing an unattended
    Probably so.
    pocketbook might be a solution for someone
    short of cash, for example, but it doesn't
    work in the greater scheme of things.
    Not a smart idea from the get go.

    Sometimes, as they say, it's the lesser of
    two weevils.

    When someone brings me to one, I'll wander
    about with curiosity and pleasure, but
    buying anything, that's another matter. I did
    use to get the occasional nonperishable, though,
    picking up obscure classical albums with cut-out
    cut-out notches, that sort of thing.
    We've not seen anything like that.

    They're probably a lot scarcer than before, and I
    don't think they were ever that common. Plus you weren't
    looking for them.

    They usually don't want to think about all the damage they're doing
    to > themselves. My chain smoking sister has, for the past I don't
    know how > many years, has claimed her cough is "because I'm just getting over a > cold". Sorry, that doesn't fly; she wore out that excuse many years ago.
    She might in fact always be getting colds or
    getting over them. Why do you get all these
    sniffles is the unasked question. You might
    get in trouble if you asked, though.
    It's definatly a smoker's cough. And no, I want to keep my head, not
    have it bitten off.

    Perhaps not even thinking about it is the way to go.

    Tastes change. There are people alive who remember
    the days when chicken was a sign of the good life.
    Dad used to tell us that his mom would serve chicken for Sunday dinner
    as beef was less expensive and eaten more during the week.

    Until current techniques of factory farming were
    invented, no doubt that was the case.

    on a plate. And now the CDC is claiming that backyard
    subsistence farming is the cause of the latest
    Salmonella outbreak; but then I suspect the CDC is
    talking through its hat this time.
    Sounds possible.

    When the food and drug industries are involved,
    few if any are incorruptible.

    was growing up; IIRC, it was usually on Saturday nights. He did
    steaks > from time to time, but not as often, and usually to the point of very > well done.
    Another case of tastes shifting.
    His never did--steaks always had to be well done.

    In general, they do - my earlist encounters with snooty
    restaurant waiters were about ordering beef rare ... of
    course you mean medium, sniffed thefirst one, on my I think
    eighth birthday. Of course not. It's a battle I've fought a
    thousand times, less frequently nowadays. Just bring me
    the cow and I'll cut it off myself, cheesis.

    We've done the complimentary protein route fairly often but I always made sure that both parts of the protein were in the same meal.
    My solution is the easiest. Just eat plenty of meat!
    There was a time when we couldn't afford to buy much meat. We'd go a
    week or so on meatless meals but still get enough protein in our diets.

    Veggies these days are getting more expensive than
    real food.

    Pizza dough
    categories: bread, ingredient, Italian, American
    Yield: dough for 2 14" pizzas

    1 1/2 c warm water
    3/4 Tb dry yeast
    1 ts sugar
    4 c a/p flour
    1 ts salt
    3 Tb olive oil

    Impasto per la pizza

    Mix the water, yeast and sugar. Let rest until
    the yeast blooms, 3 to 4 min.

    Place 3 c flour and the salt in a mixing bowl.
    Add the yeast mixture and the olive oil and stir
    together to form a sticky dough. Knead, adding
    the remaining flour a little at a time until the
    dough becomes a smooth, elastic ball, 5 to 8 min.

    If you prefer to use an electric mixer, combine
    the ingredients with the paddle attachment and
    then change to the dough hook. Add the flour a
    little at a time until the dough is smooth and
    comes away from the sides of the bowl, 2 to 4 min.

    Turn the dough into a lightly greased bowl and
    cover with a towel or plastic wrap. Let rise for
    30 min before stretching or rolling into the
    desired shape.

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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Michael Loo on Saturday, May 25, 2019 01:59:04
    On 05-24-19 05:52, Michael Loo <=-
    spoke to Ruth Haffly about 433 baseball and oddities <=-

    Steve is the one that usually seasons our steaks before grilling them. I don't know if he uses any salt. I'll set out onion and garlic powders 7 black pepper for him to use, but often times he will get something else
    from the spice cabinet.

    It's customary - and most prefer - to use salt
    on their steaks before cooking.

    I use a concoction called Montreal Steak seasoning -- which is probably
    so close to salt & pepper as to make no difference. I am careful not to
    put too much on though.

    BTW, in all of your travels have you ever been to Russia, or to Eastern
    Europe?


    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

    Title: Poor Man's Stroganoff
    Categories: Beef, Russian
    Yield: 1 servings

    1 lb Lean ground beef
    1 sm Onion, chopped
    1/4 lb Fresh mushrooms (quartered)
    Or one can of the broiled in
    Butter
    Type mushrooms
    1 cn Cream of mushroom soup
    1/4 c Dry white wine
    1/2 c Sour cream
    Salt (for my taste it
    Shouldn't need any) and
    Pepper to taste.

    Brown the ground beef in a large frying pan, when it is about half
    done, add the mushrooms and onions, and continue cooking, stirring
    occasionally, until the onions are fairly transparent. Drain off the
    excess fat.

    Add the soup and the wine, and cook, stirring occasionally, until the
    vegetables are tender (maybe 20-30 minutes).

    Stir in the sour cream, and reheat slightly (don't allow it to boil).

    Serve over noodles, toast or mashed potatoes.

    When I was growing up, this was one of my Mom's favorite "emergency"
    dishes -- fancy enough that you didn't have to apologize for it to
    casual (and usually unexpected) guests, but able to be thrown together
    on a moment's notice.

    I don't make it the way she did, because of sodium content of the
    soup. Instead, after the burger is cooked, I drain off almost all of
    the fat and add a couple of tablespoons of flour to the mixture.
    Then I add a can of low-sodium beef broth, and stir to make a gravy.
    Then I add the wine, and proceed from there. Requires a little more
    cooking time (to evaporate the liquid from the broth), but works
    well. At least we like it (G).

    From: Kathy Pitts Date: 02-24-95
    Cooking Ä

    MMMMM


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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to MICHAEL LOO on Friday, May 24, 2019 14:28:40
    Hi Michael,

    than a neutral or even a negative one. Letting
    a smile be your umbrella is a nice thought,
    but you get wet anyway.
    A rather Eeyore-ish outlook. (G) Guess you'll just have to work out
    your > best compromise between half empty and half full.

    I admit Eeyore was the only character I didn't find
    unrealistic. Not that I read or watched any of the
    manifestations other than stumbling through Winnie
    Ille Pu.

    My first year Latin teacher made reference to that book but AFAIR, she
    never brought it to class. I finally read the WtP books my freshman year
    of college, over one of the breaks when I stayed at school.

    certain others like their steaks seasoned
    before cooking.
    Steve is the one that usually seasons our steaks before grilling
    them. I > don't know if he uses any salt. I'll set out onion and
    garlic powders & > black pepper for him to use, but often times he
    will get something else > from the spice cabinet.

    It's customary - and most prefer - to use salt
    on their steaks before cooking.

    So there's probably some salt on the steaks we cook. My dad probably
    used onion salt and pepper.


    cooking in September.
    I'll remember not to marinate anything in apple
    juice and corn syrup, too. We have quite a few
    dietary things going on in the echo.
    Part of the not so fun part of getting older.

    One adapts.

    Yes, and sometimes end up eating better than when we were younger.

    Eh, it's reasonably full of good stuff to
    start with.
    OK, just don't let the nooks and crannies get over filled
    with junk > ML> > stuff.
    Why not?
    Your choice. (G)

    As I said, it's an imperfect figure of speech.

    So let it go at that.


    Putting zucchini in this would make it perfect, a
    quadrifecta of offensiveness if you will -
    Apple salsa
    categories: relish, condiment, something to offend everyone servings: 4
    I can't even call it salsa with a straight face.
    Mixed up mess of stuff, but not salsa.

    Anything that's spoonable over another food or
    scoopable with a scoop is salsa.

    I know, technically it is but this didn't look like anything I'd
    consider worth spooning or scooping.

    pocketbook might be a solution for someone
    short of cash, for example, but it doesn't
    work in the greater scheme of things.
    Not a smart idea from the get go.

    Sometimes, as they say, it's the lesser of
    two weevils.

    Depends on what follows the initial act.

    use to get the occasional nonperishable, though,
    picking up obscure classical albums with cut-out
    cut-out notches, that sort of thing.
    We've not seen anything like that.

    They're probably a lot scarcer than before, and I
    don't think they were ever that common. Plus you weren't
    looking for them.

    No, I wasn't nor, most likely will, even now.

    past I don't > ML> know how > many years, has claimed her cough is "because I'm just > ML> getting over a > cold". Sorry, that doesn't
    fly; she wore out that > ML> excuse many years ago.
    She might in fact always be getting colds or
    getting over them. Why do you get all these
    sniffles is the unasked question. You might
    get in trouble if you asked, though.
    It's definatly a smoker's cough. And no, I want to keep my head, not have it bitten off.

    Perhaps not even thinking about it is the way to go.

    Basically that's what I'm doing. Just know that some day we'll get the
    news that the smoking has caught up to her.

    Tastes change. There are people alive who remember
    the days when chicken was a sign of the good life.
    Dad used to tell us that his mom would serve chicken for Sunday
    dinner > as beef was less expensive and eaten more during the week.

    Until current techniques of factory farming were
    invented, no doubt that was the case.

    He never said when/if his mom switched to anything else and can't ask
    him now.


    on a plate. And now the CDC is claiming that backyard
    subsistence farming is the cause of the latest
    Salmonella outbreak; but then I suspect the CDC is
    talking through its hat this time.
    Sounds possible.

    When the food and drug industries are involved,
    few if any are incorruptible.

    And we reap the consequences.

    was growing up; IIRC, it was usually on Saturday nights. He
    did > ML> steaks > from time to time, but not as often, and usually
    to the point > ML> of very > well done.
    Another case of tastes shifting.
    His never did--steaks always had to be well done.

    In general, they do - my earlist encounters with snooty
    restaurant waiters were about ordering beef rare ... of
    course you mean medium, sniffed thefirst one, on my I think
    eighth birthday. Of course not. It's a battle I've fought a
    thousand times, less frequently nowadays. Just bring me
    the cow and I'll cut it off myself, cheesis.

    But that's been in larger towns/cities--Dad was raised in a town near
    Buffalo, "saw the world" (Pacific theater) in WWII/Reserves until 1950
    and then settled in a small town (population about 800). He had the
    small town (well done) meat and potatoes view of food for pretty much
    his whole life.


    We've done the complimentary protein route fairly often but I
    always > ML> > made sure that both parts of the protein were in the
    same meal. > ML> My solution is the easiest. Just eat plenty of meat!
    There was a time when we couldn't afford to buy much meat. We'd go a week or so on meatless meals but still get enough protein in our
    diets.

    Veggies these days are getting more expensive than
    real food.

    They are real food, IOurO.

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    Ruth
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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Dale Shipp on Sunday, May 26, 2019 13:02:09
    Dale Shipp wrote to Michael Loo <=-

    I use a concoction called Montreal Steak seasoning -- which is probably
    so close to salt & pepper as to make no difference. I am careful not
    to put too much on though.

    Try making your own.

    https://www.culinaryhill.com/montreal-steak-seasoning-recipe/

    2 tablespoons crushed black pepper
    2 tablespoons garlic powder
    2 tablespoons kosher salt
    2 tablespoons paprika
    1 tablespoon onion powder
    1 tablespoon ground coriander
    1 tablespoon dried dill
    1 tablespoon crushed red pepper flakes

    Sounds not so close to salt and pepper to me. ;)

    I love Montreal Steak seasoning on burgers as I can taste the spices and
    it's a nice savory mix.

    Later,
    Sean

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  • From JIM WELLER@1:123/140 to DALE SHIPP on Sunday, May 26, 2019 18:36:00

    Quoting Dale Shipp to Michael Loo <=-

    I use a concoction called Montreal Steak seasoning

    It was invented at Schwartz's famous deli, the Charcuterie Hebraique
    de Montreal, where we all ate lunch the year of the Montreal picnic
    and pig roast, and is now widely copied by numerous restaurants and
    spice blenders including McCormick's. One of Mr. Schwartz's cooks
    started putting their in-house smoked meat spice blend on ribs and
    steaks.

    The one ingredient that sets it apart from most other steak spices
    and seasoned salt mixes is dill, although Cavender's Greek
    Seasoning has dill too.

    My favourite commercial steak (all purpose really) seasoning is
    dill free and locally made Back Eddy, invented in Hay River by Bill
    Law, an old friend of Roslind's and one time owner of the Back Eddy
    restaurant there. It is now distributed throughout the NWT and
    northern Alberta by a number of independent, non-chain grocery
    stores and butcher shops.


    Cheers

    Jim


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  • From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to JIM WELLER on Monday, May 27, 2019 07:20:27
    JIM WELLER wrote to DALE SHIPP <=-

    I use a concoction called Montreal Steak seasoning

    It was invented at Schwartz's famous deli, the Charcuterie Hebraique
    de Montreal, where we all ate lunch the year of the Montreal picnic
    and pig roast, and is now widely copied by numerous restaurants and
    spice blenders including McCormick's. One of Mr. Schwartz's cooks
    started putting their in-house smoked meat spice blend on ribs and
    steaks.

    The one ingredient that sets it apart from most other steak spices
    and seasoned salt mixes is dill, although Cavender's Greek
    Seasoning has dill too.

    My favourite commercial steak (all purpose really) seasoning is
    dill free and locally made Back Eddy, invented in Hay River by Bill
    Law, an old friend of Roslind's and one time owner of the Back Eddy restaurant there. It is now distributed throughout the NWT and
    northern Alberta by a number of independent, non-chain grocery
    stores and butcher shops.

    Here's my favourite steak (all-purpose for any meat really) seasoning.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Lemon Pepper Seasoning
    Categories: Five, Herbs, Citrus
    Yield: 2 cups

    1 c Ground black pepper
    1/2 c Dried lemon peel
    3 tb Coriander seeds
    1/4 c Dried, minced onion
    1/4 c Dried thyme leaves

    Stir all the ingredients together and grind in batches
    in your R2-D2 coffee/spice mill. Store in airtight jars.

    Lemon pepper adds a piquant flavor when used on grilled
    meats.

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.recipelink.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

    MMMMM


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  • From JIM WELLER@1:123/140 to SEAN DENNIS on Tuesday, May 28, 2019 21:03:00

    Quoting Sean Dennis to Dale Shipp <=-

    Montreal Steak seasoning

    Try making your own. https://www.culinaryhill.com/montreal-steak-seasoning-recipe/
    2 tablespoons crushed black pepper
    2 tablespoons garlic powder
    2 tablespoons kosher salt
    2 tablespoons paprika
    1 tablespoon onion powder
    1 tablespoon ground coriander
    1 tablespoon dried dill
    1 tablespoon crushed red pepper flakes

    That is very much like my homemade blend except that I sub other
    green leafy herbs for the dill (usually my own Italian mix of
    oregano, basil, marjoram, rosemary and thyme. Also summer savory.)

    it's a nice savory mix.

    My pork and sausage spice mix includes mustard and my salmon/trout/
    char mix has tarragon as the main herb plus lemon zest.



    Cheers

    Jim


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