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    From MICHAEL LOO@1:123/140 to RUTH HAFFLY on Thursday, May 23, 2019 07:13:20
    So many topics to drop, so little time.
    This one is now deleted.

    We can hope, but I'm not holding my breath on it.
    We can only nudge things gently in the direction
    we think is right, but we mustn't nudge too much
    or intrude into the rights of others lest our best
    efforts be guaranteed to backfire.
    Which wouldn't be a pretty sight.

    Which books in particular? Some scholars paint the
    picture of Elizabeth I as a great and wise lady, qt
    least the equal of her namesake today and with a ton
    more actual power. I've not heard of many sympathetic
    treatments of Henry, though.
    A couple by Philippa Gregory on Henry's wives, one on QEI by (IIRC),
    Alison Wier. That one was quite interesting. A friend just loaned me
    "The Secret Token Myth, Obsession and the Search for the Lost Colony of Roanoke' by Andrew Lawlar--it'll be interesting to see what that has to
    say about the queen as well.

    There was a Weir book on the shelf at Rosemary's, and I
    read part of it - it went into details I wasn't interested
    in and didn't have enough stuff on what I was, so I put it
    down (the alignments of my interests accord pretty much
    with the stereotypical boy/girl spectrum).

    Efficient budgeting is possible. I recently made
    several meals where everyone was satisfied but there
    were scanty to no leftovers. I admit that in the echo
    picnic situation that might be a near-impossibility.
    Seems so, and is it really worth trying to do? I'll probably do more
    of
    It may be a little troublesome but is better than
    wasting food.
    Very much so!

    I still feel guilty about wasting food, even though
    I wasn't subjected to the starving children in China
    propaganda.

    I'll pick up pieces, likely not practicing
    what I preach. In addition there may be that
    galaktoboureko or something if Nancy reminds
    me. Perhaps crackers, peanut butter, and squid?
    I'd most likely try the crackers, have eaten squid (as calamari and in
    fish stew) but will take a pass on the peanut butter.

    That was referring to a tagline of Nancy's - the
    question was how and whether to make it come to life.

    Somtimes you get it right the first time, other times, it's a
    royal > ML> > mess.
    ?? In this case it's been a royal pain.
    Sorry to hear that.
    Eh, it's an adventure.
    In frustration?

    One takes the bitter with the sweet. Or, if one
    is Weller, the bitters with the sweet. Or, if
    you're me, the bedroom with the suite.

    You should have seen this hole. It was, one could
    say, of biblical proportions.
    The honey or sugar may well have helped. I presume it finally filled in?

    Did you see his reply in which he said that they
    actually did use the stuff?

    Any trips planned to New Guinea in the near future?
    One was suggested a few years ago, but the problem
    nowadays is that the medical facilities in Port
    Moresby are not up to twentieth-century standards.
    You and your travelling companions would prefer the medical facilities
    be at least to that standard, if needed. Better later 20th century also.

    It's pretty certain that in that city they haven't
    gotten to the 20th century yet in many respects.
    That was not a misprint.

    That seems to be a typical bird ploy; I've read abou other species
    doing > it as well.
    I'd guess that emus, ostriches, and cassowaries are
    more likely to adopt the mama bear strategy, but
    birds tend to be small and relatively defenseless.
    Defenseless but able to strategise a good diversion.

    Sacrificing the old for the sake of the young is
    a time-honored strategy.

    Sometimes I too am nostalgic for those days.
    Parts of them would be nice to re-live, other parts, I'd just as
    soon > rather forget.
    That's true of every period. Even yesterday.
    Sometimes yes, sometimes not.

    No, we sift it and then run it thru the mill.
    Yeah, but for that recipe and most recipes I make
    white flour is a given.
    We can get some, but somebody will take it home.
    Dale and Gail, I nominate you. Unless Sean
    wants it.
    We'll see. (G)

    Free ham?

    Ours has kept well, don't know what we're doing right (or wrong).
    Controlled storage temperature? Keeping it covered
    between uses? Luck?
    We keep it loosely covered in a glass jar (glass top to the jar as well)
    and try to use it on a regular basis.

    Yeah, the barrier against having alien spores fall
    in seems to be important.

    Polar bear prepared two ways (diced, stewed)
    categories: Aleut, game, main
    yield: 1 batch

    polar bear meat
    powdered bouillon tt
    onion flakes tt
    Mrs. Dash Seasoning Blend tt
    Worcestershire tt
    garlic tt
    salt tt
    fermented walrus flipper (opt)
    brown sugar tt (opt)
    rice (opt)
    potatoes (opt)
    carrots (opt)
    flour, cornstarch, or pasta to thicken (opt)

    Diced. Dice polar bear meat, leaving fat on some
    chunks of meat. Season pieces with bouillon, onion,
    Mrs. Dash Seasoning Blend and salt. Boil. Chef's
    note - Polar bear fat is drier than walrus or seal
    blubber. It is neither fatty nor runny and is
    subtle in taste and very tender. Variation - Cook
    polar bear meat with frozen, sliced fermented
    walrus flipper. Chef's note - When you eat the two
    together it sweetens the bear meat, and the bear
    takes away the greasy taste of the flipper. Serve
    with mixed greens and oil.

    Stew. For choice cuts, choose meat form the back
    polar bear shoulder blade. Dice meat. Marinate in
    refrigerator for one to two days with beef bouillon,
    Lea & Perrins Worcestershire Sauce, garlic, onion
    and Mrs. Dash Seasoning Blend. After marinating,
    rinse well to remove some of the blood. A small
    amount of brown sugar can also be added.

    Boil a pot of water and add onion, Mrs. Dash, bouillon,
    salt, Worcestershire sauce. Add meat and simmer for
    1 1/2 to 2 hr. Add rice, potatoes and carrots, if
    available. Thicken with flour, corn starch or elbow
    macaroni about ten min before the soup is done. Let
    stew rest, then serve. Serve with homemade corn bread
    or biscuits.

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to MICHAEL LOO on Thursday, May 23, 2019 16:38:00
    Hi Michael,

    Which books in particular? Some scholars paint the
    picture of Elizabeth I as a great and wise lady, qt
    least the equal of her namesake today and with a ton
    more actual power. I've not heard of many sympathetic
    treatments of Henry, though.
    A couple by Philippa Gregory on Henry's wives, one on QEI by (IIRC), Alison Wier. That one was quite interesting. A friend just loaned me "The Secret Token Myth, Obsession and the Search for the Lost
    Colony of > Roanoke' by Andrew Lawlar--it'll be interesting to see
    what that has to > say about the queen as well.

    There was a Weir book on the shelf at Rosemary's, and I
    read part of it - it went into details I wasn't interested
    in and didn't have enough stuff on what I was, so I put it
    down (the alignments of my interests accord pretty much
    with the stereotypical boy/girl spectrum).

    The first time I picked up the book on QEI, I didn't really get into it.
    A couple of years later the timing was right to give it another try and
    I really enjoyed it. Possibly, having read other books set in the same
    general time frame, it just "read right". I'd rather read a book like
    that than some of what passed as literature.


    Efficient budgeting is possible. I recently made
    several meals where everyone was satisfied but there
    were scanty to no leftovers. I admit that in the echo
    picnic situation that might be a near-impossibility.
    Seems so, and is it really worth trying to do? I'll probably
    do more > ML> of
    It may be a little troublesome but is better than
    wasting food.
    Very much so!

    I still feel guilty about wasting food, even though
    I wasn't subjected to the starving children in China
    propaganda.

    I wasn't either but we still had to eat what was on our plates. My mom
    used to use a WWII saying, "Eat what you can and can what you can" but
    that didn't involve what she'd put on our plates. She did do a lot of
    canning however, from the gardens Dad put in every year as a way to save
    on the family's winter vegetable purchases.

    I'll pick up pieces, likely not practicing
    what I preach. In addition there may be that
    galaktoboureko or something if Nancy reminds
    me. Perhaps crackers, peanut butter, and squid?
    I'd most likely try the crackers, have eaten squid (as calamari and
    in > fish stew) but will take a pass on the peanut butter.

    That was referring to a tagline of Nancy's - the
    question was how and whether to make it come to life.

    Some things are best left undone. (G)

    Somtimes you get it right the first time, other times,
    it's a > ML> royal > ML> > mess.
    ?? In this case it's been a royal pain.
    Sorry to hear that.
    Eh, it's an adventure.
    In frustration?

    One takes the bitter with the sweet. Or, if one
    is Weller, the bitters with the sweet. Or, if
    you're me, the bedroom with the suite.

    Or, none of the above.

    You should have seen this hole. It was, one could
    say, of biblical proportions.
    The honey or sugar may well have helped. I presume it finally filled
    in?

    Did you see his reply in which he said that they
    actually did use the stuff?

    Yes, I did. It would be interesting to compare notes but this isn't the
    place for it.

    Any trips planned to New Guinea in the near future?
    One was suggested a few years ago, but the problem
    nowadays is that the medical facilities in Port
    Moresby are not up to twentieth-century standards.
    You and your travelling companions would prefer the medical
    facilities > be at least to that standard, if needed. Better later
    20th century also.

    It's pretty certain that in that city they haven't
    gotten to the 20th century yet in many respects.
    That was not a misprint.

    IOW, not my first place to consider for travel any time soon.

    That seems to be a typical bird ploy; I've read abou other
    species > ML> doing > it as well.
    I'd guess that emus, ostriches, and cassowaries are
    more likely to adopt the mama bear strategy, but
    birds tend to be small and relatively defenseless.
    Defenseless but able to strategise a good diversion.

    Sacrificing the old for the sake of the young is
    a time-honored strategy.

    Hopefully the old has passed down wisdom to the young before passing
    away.

    Sometimes I too am nostalgic for those days.
    Parts of them would be nice to re-live, other parts, I'd just
    as > ML> soon > rather forget.
    That's true of every period. Even yesterday.
    Sometimes yes, sometimes not.

    No, we sift it and then run it thru the mill.
    Yeah, but for that recipe and most recipes I make
    white flour is a given.
    We can get some, but somebody will take it home.
    Dale and Gail, I nominate you. Unless Sean
    wants it.
    We'll see. (G)

    Free ham?

    OK, I thought we were talking white flour and sugar as give aways.


    Ours has kept well, don't know what we're doing right (or
    wrong). > ML> Controlled storage temperature? Keeping it covered
    between uses? Luck?
    We keep it loosely covered in a glass jar (glass top to the jar as
    well) > and try to use it on a regular basis.

    Yeah, the barrier against having alien spores fall
    in seems to be important.

    Don't want your sourdough to turn on you. Steve used ours the other day
    to make cinnamon rolls with raisins and pecans in the filling. Now it's
    back in the fridge, awaiting the next great baking venture.

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    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Bill Swisher@1:261/1466 to Michael Loo on Thursday, May 23, 2019 08:41:00
    Quoting Michael Loo to Ruth Haffly <=-

    You should have seen this hole. It was, one could
    say, of biblical proportions.
    The honey or sugar may well have helped. I presume it finally filled in?

    Did you see his reply in which he said that they
    actually did use the stuff?

    It sort of filled in, I'd guess it's only about 4" long and maybe 1/2-3/4" deep
    now.

    Let me know when you're headed this way and I'll arrange for a lumpy loaner.

    Pondering some bulk cooking...usual suspects...leek & potato soup, chicken soup, chili verde, beef stew, beans with bacon, maybe asparagus soup (that was pretty good last time), or posole (since I got that bag of dried whole hominy, I have a recipe around here somewhere). Who knows...maybe I'll pull the castiron out of the oven, the portion I put there anyhow, and make a meatloaf.
    I haven't turned on the oven since I moved in here, it's been all cooktop/crockpot cooking (yet down in Lake Havasu I crawled around on the floor
    lighting the oven pilot light several times). I have 3 chunks of pork loin and 3 chunks of beef in the freezer to get rid of...

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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Bill Swisher on Saturday, May 25, 2019 06:46:00
    Bill Swisher wrote to Michael Loo <=-

    Pondering some bulk cooking...usual suspects...leek & potato soup,
    chicken soup, chili verde, beef stew, beans with bacon, maybe asparagus soup (that was pretty good last time), or posole (since I got that bag
    of dried whole hominy, I have a recipe around here somewhere). Who

    Here y'go .......

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Posole
    Categories: Soups, Pork, Chilies, Vegetables, Herbs
    Yield: 12 Servings

    2 lb Pork roast; in chunks
    1/2 lb Pork rinds (skins)
    2 ea Pork shanks or pigs feet
    1 tb Salt
    1 ts Oregano
    2 c Posole or chickpeas
    2 cl Garlic; mashed
    2 tb Chopped onion
    4 lg Red chilies; seeded

    Place meat and pork rinds and pork shanks in a large kettle
    and add about 5 quarts of water or enough to cover meat.
    Add approximately 1 tablespoon salt and bring to a boil.
    Cook over medium heat for about 1 1/2 hours. Remove excess
    grease and set aside. Reserve liquid.

    Wash the posole very carefully until the water is clear so
    as to remove lime from kernels. (Not necessary if using
    chickpeas) Put in large kettle and cover with water. Boil
    until posole has popped or chickpeas are cooked. Mix meat,
    posole, rind and shanks or pigs feet. Add oregano, garlic,
    onion and chile pods. Let simmer for about 1/2 hour.

    Posole may be served as a main dish with hard rolls,
    tortillas or crackers. Additional red chilli sauce may be
    added at serving time for more spice.

    NOTE: Posole can be found in the meat section if it is
    available in your area, if not available, hominy or
    chickpeas can be substituted in the same quantities
    but no rinsing (or pre-cooking of the hominy) is needed.
    The posole will lose its authenticity but none of its
    tastiness if pork rinds, pork shanks or pigs feet are
    omitted. You can also add one can of tomatoes to enhance
    the flavor.

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