I'm afraid that my friend who is facing this
was not so foresightful, choosing perhaps to
take more after me.

Sounds as though perhaps your friend is seeing the inevitable much
closer to that point... Richard mentioned that the other thing he did

I'm surprised her company has stayed open at all.
It's cut so far back in her department that she is
the only one actually doing anything, this having
been at one time one of the most important
manufacturers of blood-processing equipment in the
world.

was choose the old-fashioned pension option when given the choice to
move to something more modern... And he also clarified that a lot of
what we did wasn't done consciously, just the way we lived...

An excellently self-preservational way of behaving.

One consoles oneself by that the useless stuff
keeps people busy who would otherwise be causing
trouble and inefficiency. Or almost as bad,
starving in the gutter.

Perhaps...

Efficiency is not everything and amounts to
cruelty in a lot of cases.

Indeed... as in just about everything, there's a balance there...

As far as I can tell, the proper balance is
way farther from the efficiency side than the
business schools would have you believe. Even if
someone functions at, say, 1/10 efficiency, s/he
should still be allowed to work, i.e., contribute
to society in a small but meaningful way.

The downside of Wegmans or any other business
that sets the bar too high for others.

We don't expect all the other grocery stores to measure up to Wegmans,
but we do expect a certain level of competence and cleanliness... and
for quite a while, Wegmans was only one of the stores that we'd
regularly shop at... when we pulled back on how many stores, then the
quality made a bigger difference...

As above, there should be a place for the less
excellent; not to the point of compromising health,
but a possibility of letting the lower end survive.
Both of my favorite grocery chains, Stater Bros. and
Market Basket, cater to a more modest clientele but
provide generally good merchandise at substantially
lower prices than the top top places such as Weggie's.

Back then I was more shopping the sales, which
was easier to do back then.... :)

Shopping the sales makes sense for those on
a budget. Might tend to skew one's diet, though.

I was pretty good at keeping the diet unskewed... not being too rigidly committed to only shopping sales... if something I wanted wasn't on sale anywhere, I still might get it... ;)

The educated consumer can balance things; it is the
less adept and those unfamiliar with the principles of
home economics that one worries about.

though they never had what we wanted in stock when we'd go... The
original store had closed by then (moved to a bigger location, a bit further away), and lots more had opened around town, but we were
finding the problems at just about any store of theirs after a while...

And so the slide begins.

Exactly... and so it continues... ;/

Until one gets a replay of A&P.

exceptions... As well as, of course, older docs that have learned something over the years about how things really are, and young ones
that haven't figured out anything yet... (G)

That last sentence pretty much describes my
general attitude towards the profession.

I've lately mostly had the experience of the older ones that have
learned, along with younger ones that pay attention and listen... Unfortunately my older docs that I loved have retired, and at least one replacement isn't shaping up all that well...

The obvious but somewhat inconvenient and possibly
distressing solution is to shop for a new doc.

Okay, we're thinking in the USA's relative freedom
context. Envision someone who is fired from a job
due to government intervention. What enterprise is
going to risk hiring her?

I guess she'd have to emigrate here.... ;/

It's hard to emigrate if your government has
you on a list, which is certainly the case for
her now.

True... has she re-emerged from the abyss yet...?

Hard to say, but the chances are no, not, never.

+

Been reacquainted, and I'm down to 147.5 again.
But I don't need to lose more, grr.

Good to not be retaining water... but you do need to eat enough to stay healthy....

I'm eating a reasonable amount.

My left eye is getting that way... yet it tested out fine when I saw the eye doctor in Feb... ;(

As of the latest exam, it wasn't the cataracts,
which are still minumal.

And my cataracts are already surgically removed....

It's distressing, because on top of the known
eyesight issues and the mild cataracts, there is
something else going on that the doctors can't
find (and so therefore it doesn't exist).

Second: a cat greeting someone who is allergic.

Or who hates cats.... yup...

Who would hate a nice plate of chicken-fried cat?

Some cat-lovers we know might gag at that one... ;)

Perhaps. But if they can't take a joke, they're
not likely to remain our friends for long.

So just as well you did wake up when you did... ;)

For sure - and I got another 5000 for just
writing in to compliment the crew and complain
about the Website, so that totals to 1/2 a
ticket that I don't deserve. Or a night in a
comfy hotel for some cash-strapped echo member.

Nice going... :)

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Title: Scandinavian Beef Patties with Beets and Cape
Categories: Meats
Yield: 4 servings

1 Medium russet potato (about 1 Egg yolk
2 tb Heavy cream 1/2 c Finely chopped
pickled beets
1 pn Ground cloves 1 tb Capers
2 ts Butter 1/2 c Flour
1 Small onion; minced 1 tb Vegetable oil
1 lb Ground sirloin

In a large saucepan of boiling salted water, cook potato until tender
when
pierced with tip of a sharp knife, about 20 minutes. Drain, peel, and
mash
with heavy cream, and cloves plus salt and pepper to taste. In a small
skillet, melt 1 tablespoon butter over medium heat. Add onion and cook,
stirring often, until softened, about 3 minutes. Stir into mashed potato.
Add ground sirloin and egg yolk to potato and mix well. Stir in pickled
beets and capers. Form mixture into 4 patties about 1-inch thick.
Transfer
patties to wax-paper-lined baking sheet, cover with plastic wrap, and
refrigerate 1 hour. Dredge patties in flour; shake off excess. In a large
skillet, melt remaining butter in oil over medium-high heat. Add patties
and cook until bottoms are browned, about 4 minutes. Turn and cook until
desired doneness, about 5 minutes for medium. Source: 365 Ways To Cook
Hamburger And
Other Ground Meats Suggested Accompaniements Serve these patties
with
whipped mashed potatoes and a cucumber salad. I have also used the
mixture
to make meatballs. These go nicely with a dipping sauce made of sour
cream
blended with a bit of the liquid from the pickled beets.

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Quoting Michael Loo to Nancy Backus on 05-20-18 12:13 <=-

I'm afraid that my friend who is facing this
was not so foresightful, choosing perhaps to
take more after me.

Sounds as though perhaps your friend is seeing the inevitable much
closer to that point... Richard mentioned that the other thing he did

I'm surprised her company has stayed open at all.
It's cut so far back in her department that she is
the only one actually doing anything, this having
been at one time one of the most important
manufacturers of blood-processing equipment in the
world.

A similar story to Kodak's.... I hope she ends up ok...

was choose the old-fashioned pension option when given the choice to
move to something more modern... And he also clarified that a lot of
what we did wasn't done consciously, just the way we lived...

An excellently self-preservational way of behaving.

We grew up learning how to live on fairly little, and didn't change much
from that... ;)

One consoles oneself by that the useless stuff
keeps people busy who would otherwise be causing
trouble and inefficiency. Or almost as bad,
starving in the gutter.

Perhaps...

Efficiency is not everything and amounts to
cruelty in a lot of cases.

Indeed... as in just about everything, there's a balance there...

As far as I can tell, the proper balance is
way farther from the efficiency side than the
business schools would have you believe. Even if
someone functions at, say, 1/10 efficiency, s/he
should still be allowed to work, i.e., contribute
to society in a small but meaningful way.

Agreed. It's also an argument to keep the sheltered workshops open...
giving people work to do that helps them feel as though what they do has meaning... A friend at church, now retired from one, was proudly telling
that they used to make/assemble the tops for the reusable water
bottles... maybe a small job, but it gave satisfaction to him...

The downside of Wegmans or any other business
that sets the bar too high for others.

We don't expect all the other grocery stores to measure up to Wegmans,
but we do expect a certain level of competence and cleanliness... and
for quite a while, Wegmans was only one of the stores that we'd
regularly shop at... when we pulled back on how many stores, then the quality made a bigger difference...

As above, there should be a place for the less
excellent; not to the point of compromising health,
but a possibility of letting the lower end survive.
Both of my favorite grocery chains, Stater Bros. and
Market Basket, cater to a more modest clientele but
provide generally good merchandise at substantially
lower prices than the top top places such as Weggie's.

With Wegmans, it somewhat depends on which store you are in... the one
we shopped at for many years before they decided to close it catered to
the more modest clientele, and had fewer of the high end options but
more of the reasonable ones... But we've found that we don't do any
better at any of the other places in our area... most either have much
inferior products for not that much less, or are pricing things about
the same as Wegmans... For a while, Richard was taking one of our
friends grocery shopping, mainly providing the transportation and the
brawn... so he'd take her to the stores she wanted to go to... and when
she fussed that this or that wasn't up to her standards, he'd look at
it, agree it wasn't as good as it should be, and at least think to
himself that it was more generally better at Wegmans... at one point, he finally mentioned that to her, and when they did go to a Wegmans, she
agreed that it was much better, and for about the same price... Agreed
that for brand names one might do a little better, especially when
things are on sale, somewhere else, but even that hasn't always been the
case here...

Back then I was more shopping the sales, which
was easier to do back then.... :)

Shopping the sales makes sense for those on
a budget. Might tend to skew one's diet, though.

I was pretty good at keeping the diet unskewed... not being too rigidly committed to only shopping sales... if something I wanted wasn't on sale anywhere, I still might get it... ;)

The educated consumer can balance things; it is the
less adept and those unfamiliar with the principles of
home economics that one worries about.

A lot of what I learned was by doing... not from being actively taught
it... so I'd think that others should be able to at least pick up
basics... Granted, I probably learned a fair bit by going with Daddy
when I was growing up... And we've tried to educate others that we've
taken shopping as well... including our son, when he went off to college
and was finally ready to pay attention... (G)

though they never had what we wanted in stock when we'd go... The original store had closed by then (moved to a bigger location, a bit further away), and lots more had opened around town, but we were
finding the problems at just about any store of theirs after a while...

And so the slide begins.

Exactly... and so it continues... ;/

Until one gets a replay of A&P.

Probably...

exceptions... As well as, of course, older docs that have learned something over the years about how things really are, and young ones
that haven't figured out anything yet... (G)

That last sentence pretty much describes my
general attitude towards the profession.

I've lately mostly had the experience of the older ones that have
learned, along with younger ones that pay attention and listen... Unfortunately my older docs that I loved have retired, and at least one replacement isn't shaping up all that well...

The obvious but somewhat inconvenient and possibly
distressing solution is to shop for a new doc.

Indeed. I have an appointment with that one's NP next week... I'm
planning to explore what other options might be in that practice, but am
also starting to think about checking around other places... lots of
doctors to choose from, but I doubt that many will measure up to what
I'm accustomed to now.... Definitely inconvenient, and, yes, to some
extent, somewhat distressing...

Been reacquainted, and I'm down to 147.5 again.
But I don't need to lose more, grr.

Good to not be retaining water... but you do need to eat enough to stay healthy....

I'm eating a reasonable amount.

OK.

My left eye is getting that way... yet it tested out fine when I saw
the eye doctor in Feb... ;(

As of the latest exam, it wasn't the cataracts,
which are still minumal.

And my cataracts are already surgically removed....

It's distressing, because on top of the known
eyesight issues and the mild cataracts, there is
something else going on that the doctors can't
find (and so therefore it doesn't exist).

Is it a brain issue...? They should check that, too... Also there's
some less common things that lurk in the back of the eye to cause
problems... I know Daddy ended up with something like that....

ttyl neb

... "Eating Radium has strange results," Tom said brightly.

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