• 412 HP

    From MICHAEL LOO@1:123/140 to JIM WELLER on Monday, May 20, 2019 10:24:28
    ... The innumerable bottled sauces are enemies of good cookery.
    Partly true, but Worcestershire, HP, and others have been
    assimilated into even good cooking over the years.
    Lea & Perrins is now owned by Heinz as well, but thankfully they
    have not messed with the recipe in England or Canada. But the
    American versions (there are several new ones) use distilled white
    vinegar, not malt vinegar and has three times as much sugar and
    sodium. I always check the label carefully to make sure I know where
    mine was made.

    I've not tasted straight Worcestershire in
    quite a while but may have to try some to
    verify that sad fact.

    And Heinz has totally destroyed HP. It is less tangy and much
    sweeter (and now has HFCS in it). As well they have made a whole

    And ditto. It might require a trip to Britain
    to do so (unlikelier and unlikelier).

    bunch of stupid new versions in an effort to increase sales. I now
    buy my own malt vinegar and get some tamarind paste from my Asian
    store and reverse engineer my own.

    My taste memories of it are way too remote.

    This version lacks tamarind ...

    Which adds a dimension but truth be told not all
    that much amid the other ingredients, the spices
    being more important than the source of tartness.
    Yeah, there's the brown-fruitiness aspect, but
    other things can provide that.

    Title: Sydney Oland's HP Sauce
    4 Tomatoes, roughly chopped
    1/2 c Light brown sugar
    1 Onion, roughly chopped
    1 Lemon, sliced
    1/4 c White vinegar
    1 tb Salt
    1 tb Ground allspice
    1 ts Crushed black pepper
    1 tb Worcestershire sauce
    3/4 c Dried chopped dates
    1/2 c Water
    1/2 c Canned chopped tomatoes or
    Another fresh tomato
    2 tb Corn starch

    Lemon and white vinegar are cheaping out, and, I
    wonder if the earthiness added by the dates were
    providing the depth that your tamarind would.

    This version of the sauce turns out a bit thinner than the original;
    feel free to up the cornstarch or let it cook down longer if you're
    looking for a more authentic texture.

    I'd be inclined to add a bit of tomato paste.

    Posted by Sydney Oland To: Serious Eats

    ... When dinosaurs went vegan they devolved into little salamanders.

    Arctic char gravlax with sorrel cream sauce
    categories: Canadian, fish, brunch, main
    yield: 1 batch

    2 bn fresh dill with stems
    1 bn fresh thyme
    1 c coarse sea salt
    1 c brown sugar
    1 c white sugar
    4 Tb black peppercorns, cracked
    1 ts whole allspice, cracked
    2 oz Brandy
    2 fresh char fillets (2 lb each)
    - skin on, pin bone out

    Mix together salt, sugars, peppercorns, and allspice.
    Rub the mixture on all sides of the char. Put a thin
    layer of the mixture on the bottom of the cooking
    dish, lay fillets skin down in the dish and pack the
    remaining rub evenly around the fillets. Spread the
    dill and thyme on top of the fillets until the char
    is covered. Sprinkle a little brandy on each fillet.

    Tightly cover the dish and leave at room temperature
    for 2 hr, then refrigerate for 24 hr. Flip over the
    fillets, rewrap the dish, and put a weight on top
    (like a cookie sheet with 2 cans on top). Return to
    the fridge for another 24 hr. At the end of curing,
    unwrap the fish and scrape away the herbs and spices.
    The gravlax will be firm but pliable and slightly
    translucent. Expect to see a great deal of liquid
    accumulate in the dish as the fish shrinks.

    To slice the gravlax, use a thin, sharp knife. Hold
    the knife at a 10 degree angle, starting from the
    tail end, begin slicing the gravlax no thicker than
    1/6". The slices should be so thin that you can see
    through the flesh and watch the knife's movement as
    you slice. To serve, arrange the gravlax slices on a
    platter, serve with thin slices of toasted bread and
    sorrel sauce.

    Chef Pierre LePage
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  • From JIM WELLER@1:123/140 to MICHAEL LOO on Wednesday, May 22, 2019 22:21:00

    Quoting Michael Loo to Jim Weller <=-

    Heinz has totally destroyed HP. It is less tangy and much
    sweeter (and now has HFCS in it).

    It might require a trip to Britain

    That won't help. Heinz closed the English factory and now make it in
    Holland. (There appears to have been some union busting going on.)
    And there's a major boycott going on by patriotic Britishers as a
    result.

    Burger purists can call these things mini meatloaf patties if they
    prefer.

    --MM

    Waughburgers

    2 lbs lean ground beef
    2 eggs
    1/2 cup dried bread crumbs
    3 tablespoons minced or grated sweet onions
    2 tablespoons wine vinegar
    2 teaspoons garlic powder
    1 teaspoon Worcestershire sauce
    1/2 teaspoon salt
    1/2 teaspoon pepper
    1/4 cup ketchup
    3 tablespoons HP Sauce
    2 tablespoons Dijon mustard
    2 tablespoons grainy mustard
    4 teaspoons prepared hot horseradish
    8 hamburger buns split and toasted

    In large bowl, whisk together eggs, bread crumbs, onion, vinegar,
    garlic powder, Worcestershire sauce, salt and pepper.

    In small bowl, mix together ketchup, HP sauce, mustard and
    horseradish; remove half and set aside. Add remaining ketchup
    mixture to egg mixture; mix in beef.

    Shape into eight 3/4-inch (2 cm) thick patties. (Make-ahead: Layer
    between waxed paper in airtight container and refrigerate for up to
    24 hours.)

    Place on greased grill over medium-high heat; close lid and grill,
    turning once and brushing occasionally with reserved sauce, until
    digital rapid-read thermometer inserted sideways into centre reads
    160 F (71 C), 10 to 12 minutes. Sandwich in buns.

    Annabelle Waugh
    Canadian Living Magazine: June 2012

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    Cheers

    Jim


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  • From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to JIM WELLER on Friday, May 24, 2019 08:12:31
    JIM WELLER wrote to MICHAEL LOO <=-

    Heinz has totally destroyed HP. It is less tangy and much
    sweeter (and now has HFCS in it).

    It might require a trip to Britain

    That won't help. Heinz closed the English factory and now make it in Holland. (There appears to have been some union busting going on.)
    And there's a major boycott going on by patriotic Britishers as a
    result.

    I wonder that some enterprising Brit has not reverse engineered the
    original HP sauce and begun marketing it under a name/label just
    different enough to make infringement lawsuits unsuccessful.

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    Title: Homemade HP Sauce
    Categories: Fruits, Vegetables, Herbs, Chilies
    Yield: 1 recipe

    5 c Plums; pitted, diced
    5 c Apples; peeled, diced
    1/2 c Water
    1 lg Onion; peeled, diced
    2 cl Garlic; peeled, crushed
    1 ts Grated fresh ginger
    1 tb Tamarind paste
    1 tb Tomato paste
    1 tb All spice
    1 tb Nutmeg
    1 tb Peri-peri powder or cayenne
    1 tb Salt
    2 tb Worcester sauce
    1 tb Tabasco
    1 tb Dark treacle
    375 ml Apple cider vinegar
    375 ml Brown sugar

    In a large saucepan put the plums, apples, water, onion
    and the ginger.

    Bring to a boil and then simmer gently for 30 minutes.

    Add the remaining ingredients and simmer for another
    hour or until it has reduced and you get a nice thick
    consistency.

    Allow to cool and then blend in a blender or use a stick
    blender. Pass through a fine sieve.

    Using a funnel pour into sterile glass jars/bottles (to
    sterilize, rinse in hot water and pop straight into the
    microwave for 1 minute on high)

    Leave in a dark place for at least 6 weeks, the flavour
    develops the longer you leave it and the colour darkens
    accordingly.

    Reprinted with permission of Sous Chef.

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.food24.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

    MMMMM

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to JIM WELLER on Friday, May 24, 2019 10:26:00
    Heinz has totally destroyed HP. It is less tangy and much
    sweeter (and now has HFCS in it).

    HFCS destroys a lot of things. I do not drink a lot of soda/pop/cola, but
    I do have my favorites. They were all better back when they contained real cane sugar instead.

    Mike

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