• waste not

    From JIM WELLER@1:123/140 to DAVE DRUM on Sunday, May 19, 2019 22:15:00
    Quoting Dave Drum to Jim Weller <=-

    I see the occasional 48' tanker full of pig blood - labelled
    "NOT FOR HUMAN CONSUMPTION". And I ask myself "Why not?"

    Probably because it's very perishable and is neither fresh nor clean
    and sterile at that point. But it's not wasted. Blood meal and for
    that matter bone and feather meal are important components for
    animal, poultry and fish food pellets. And at the very least the
    leftovers go into fertilizers.

    Another way to use it:

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Malaysian Pig's Blood Tofu
    Categories: Malaysian, Pork, Offal, Tofu
    Yield: 4 Servings

    MARINADE FOR THE MINCED PORK
    2 ts Light soy sauce
    1/2 ts Sugar
    1/2 ts Cornflour
    2 ts Oil.
    50 g Minced Pork
    1 Clove Minced Garlic
    80 g Pig's Blood
    160 g Block Tofu (Chunks)
    1 1/2 tb Chinese Black Vinegar
    Salt
    Cornflour Slurry

    Fry the garlic over hot oil until fragrant. Put in the minced pork.
    Toss to get it cooked evenly. When the pork is no longer pink in
    color, toss in the blood blocks. Give them a couple of turn to blend
    with the pork. Add the tofu and quickly mix before pouring in 1/2 a
    cup of water. When the liquid comes to a boil, add salt to taste;
    then the corn starch to thicken slightly. Add the vinegar and mix
    well. Scoop out immediately when it comes to a slight boil. Don't
    over-cook the blood. Garnish with spring onion.

    Posted by Kong-Kay

    From: Http://Kongkay1.Blogspot.Com

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    Jim

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  • From Dave Drum@1:229/452 to JIM WELLER on Monday, May 20, 2019 10:38:26
    JIM WELLER wrote to DAVE DRUM <=-

    I see the occasional 48' tanker full of pig blood - labelled
    "NOT FOR HUMAN CONSUMPTION". And I ask myself "Why not?"

    Probably because it's very perishable and is neither fresh nor clean
    and sterile at that point. But it's not wasted. Blood meal and for
    that matter bone and feather meal are important components for
    animal, poultry and fish food pellets. And at the very least the
    leftovers go into fertilizers.

    As with most questions of "Why do/don't they?" the answer is, as ever
    was, "MONEY". If there were enough fiscal reason the blood could be kept
    fit for human consumption.

    Yes, I'm a cynic .... with good reason.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Bloody Mary Party Soup
    Categories: Soups, Booze, Vegetables, Chilies, Citrus
    Yield: 24 Servings

    2 1/2 c Minced onion
    2 c Minced celery
    1 1/4 c Cucumber; peeled, seeded
    - and minced
    8 lg Cloves fresh garlic; minced
    2 tb Butter
    4 cn (46 oz. ea) tomato juice
    1 1/2 c Lemon juice
    3 tb Sugar
    1/2 ts Tabasco sauce
    1/2 ts Worcestershire sauce
    750 ml Bottle Vodka
    1/2 c Green onion; sliced

    Saute onion, celery, cucumber and garlic in butter until
    soft. Add tomato juice, lemon juice, sugar, Tabasco and
    Worcestershire; simmer 7 to 8 minutes. Chill.

    Place vodka bottle in a #10 can filled with water; freeze
    until ice is solid. Remove can but keep vodka surrounded
    in ice and wrapped in a towel.

    TO SERVE: portion soup into serving bowl. Garnish with
    green onion. Add 1 oz. jigger of vodka per serving of
    soup at table.

    From: http://www.recipesource.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

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  • From JIM WELLER@1:123/140 to DAVE DRUM on Tuesday, May 21, 2019 22:38:00
    Quoting Dave Drum to Jim Weller <=-

    I see the occasional 48' tanker full of pig blood - labelled
    "NOT FOR HUMAN CONSUMPTION". And I ask myself "Why not?"

    As with most questions of "Why do/don't they?" the answer is, as ever
    was, "MONEY". If there were enough fiscal reason the blood could be
    kept fit for human consumption.

    Yes, I'm a cynic .... with good reason.

    There's nothing to be cynical about. People's tastes have changed
    and food made with blood for human consumption is simply not
    saleable except as a constituent of animal and fish food. so they
    consume it indirectly and unknowingly. The only people who will buy
    blood sausage and the like are a few (very few) souls with
    adventuresome palates like Michael and people with family farm
    backgrounds who have been involved with home slaughtering and
    butchering in the past like you, me and Roslind. We are a very
    small market.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Czarnina (Polish Duck Blood Soup)
    Categories: Soups, Polish, Duck, Offal
    Yield: 8 Servings

    Blood of a freshly killed
    -duck or goose
    1/4 c 6% vinegar
    Duck or goose wings, neck,
    -rump, heart and gizzard
    8 c Cold water
    Peppercorns, cloves, and
    -allspice grains
    1 Bay leaf
    Soup greens
    2 c Dried fruit: prunes, apples,
    -pears or raisins
    2 Tb Flour
    Salt and pepper
    Ground juniper berries
    Sugar
    Serve over: egg noodles,
    -noodle squares, grated
    -potato dumplings or
    Cooked, diced potatoes

    Collect the blood of a freshly-killed duck or goose and stir in
    1/4 cup of 6% vinegar. Seal and refrigerate until ready for use In
    pot, combine duck or goose wings, neck, rump, heart and gizzard
    with 8 c cold water Bring to a boil, skimming off scum until no
    more forms, reduce heat and simmer one hour. Add several
    peppercorns, cloves, and allspice grains and 1/2 to 1 bay leaf
    plus the standard portion of soup greens (minus the Savoy Cabbage)
    and simmer another 1 to 1 1/2 hours or until meat comes easily
    off the bone Dice the giblets, remove the meat from the bones,
    dice, and return to the strained stock.

    The soup vegetables may be diced and returned to the pot or used
    in another dish per your preference. Add about 2 cups dried fruit:
    prunes, apples, pears, raisins, and simmer another 15-20 minutes.
    Fork-blend 2-3 Tbs flour with the blood and vinegar mixture, add
    about 1/2 cup stock 1 Tbs at a time, stirring constantly, then
    return to the pot. Season with salt and pepper, a pinch or 2
    ground juniper berries (optional) sugar and a bit more vinegar if
    needed to get a sweet, sour, winy flavor with subtly spicy
    undertones. Simmer gently several minutes and serve over egg
    noodles, noodle squares, grated potato dumplings or cooked, diced
    potatoes.

    Variation: Fork-blend 1/2 cup sour cream with the flour and the
    blood-vinegar mixture before adding to the stock.

    Recipe from: Polish Heritage Cookery
    By: Maria Robert Strybel

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    Cheers

    Jim


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  • From Dave Drum@1:229/452 to JIM WELLER on Wednesday, May 22, 2019 11:23:00
    JIM WELLER wrote to DAVE DRUM <=-

    I see the occasional 48' tanker full of pig blood - labelled
    "NOT FOR HUMAN CONSUMPTION". And I ask myself "Why not?"

    As with most questions of "Why do/don't they?" the answer is, as ever
    was, "MONEY". If there were enough fiscal reason the blood could be
    kept fit for human consumption.

    Yes, I'm a cynic .... with good reason.

    There's nothing to be cynical about. People's tastes have changed
    and food made with blood for human consumption is simply not
    saleable except as a constituent of animal and fish food. so they
    consume it indirectly and unknowingly. The only people who will buy
    blood sausage and the like are a few (very few) souls with
    adventuresome palates like Michael and people with family farm
    backgrounds who have been involved with home slaughtering and
    butchering in the past like you, me and Roslind. We are a very
    small market.

    We're not even enough to be considered a "niche market". Too many are
    like my brother's first wife, who upon learning that the "beef" roast
    she had had three servings of was actually moose haunch ran for the
    bathroom crying for Beulaaaah to bring the Buiccccck to Raaaalph.

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    Title: Moose Rump Roast
    Categories: Game, Vegetables, Wine
    Yield: 10 Servings

    6 1/2 lb Moose rump roast
    4 tb Worcestershire sauce
    Oil
    Salt & pepper
    1 lg Onion; peeled, sliced
    1 ts Garlic powder; or more
    1/2 c Dry red wine
    1 c Water

    Trim off all excess fat and rub roast all over with
    vegetable oil. Sprinkle on salt, pepper & garlic powder.

    Slice onion and lay in bottom of roasting pan. Pour two
    tablespoons of Worcestershire over onions. Place roast
    on onion slices. Pour rest of Worcestershire sauce over
    roast. Add wine and water.

    Seal roasting pan with aluminum foil and bake @ 325°F/
    160°C for 3 1/2 to 4 hours, adding water as necessary
    to keep moist.

    When roast is done, remove from pan. To make gravy,
    add 2 cups water to contents of roasting pan. Bring to
    boil and scrape bottom of pan. Mix 3 tsps corn starch
    with 1/2 cup water and add to pan, stirring constantly,
    until gravy is bubbling.

    Salt and pepper to taste.

    From: http://www.recipesource.com

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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to JIM WELLER on Tuesday, May 21, 2019 18:20:24
    JIM WELLER wrote to DAVE DRUM <=-

    Probably because it's very perishable and is neither fresh nor clean
    and sterile at that point. But it's not wasted. Blood meal and for
    that matter bone and feather meal are important components for
    animal, poultry and fish food pellets. And at the very least the
    leftovers go into fertilizers.

    My mom uses blood meal on her roses. Stinky stuff but man do those roses
    love it!

    Later,
    Sean

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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Jim Weller on Thursday, May 23, 2019 01:14:00
    On 05-21-19 22:38, Jim Weller <=-
    spoke to Dave Drum about waste not <=-


    There's nothing to be cynical about. People's tastes have changed
    and food made with blood for human consumption is simply not
    saleable except as a constituent of animal and fish food. so they

    Not so. I can recall going into the local H-Mart (a Korean grocery
    store) with Michael and him spotting packages of blood for sale (I
    believe frozen).


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    Title: SHIPWRECK CASSEROLE
    Categories: Casseroles
    Yield: 6 Servings

    1 lb Ground beef
    4 md Potatoes, diced
    1/2 lg Onion, chopped
    2 Cans kidney beans, drained
    2 Cans tomato soup

    Brown ground beef and drain.

    Layer ingredients in given order, and spread tomato soup over top.
    Bake 350 1 hour covered, stir, then bake-
    : 1 hour uncovered.

    Recipe posted by: Lisa Greenwood

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  • From JIM WELLER@1:123/140 to SEAN DENNIS on Thursday, May 23, 2019 23:24:00

    Quoting Sean Dennis to Jim Weller <=-

    leftovers go into fertilizers.

    My mom uses blood meal on her roses. Stinky stuff but man do those
    roses love it!

    Yeah. Because it's loaded with proteins it's a good source of
    nitrogen.

    So the slaughterhouses sell as much blood as they can to the small,
    mostly immigrant ethnic markets, then as much more as the market
    will accept to the animal feed pellet industry at lower prices with
    the balance going very cheaply to the fertiliser companies. Even
    then I've read that only 40% gets sold at any price and 60% goes down
    the drain, which is a shame.

    One more classic recipe using blood including a cheat if you don't
    have access to any.

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    Title: Civet of Hare
    Categories: French, Rabbit, Offal, Casseroles
    Yield: 6 Servings

    1 Hare; cleaned and jointed
    -into six pieces
    1 pt Beef stock
    Blood of the hare or
    4 oz pig's liver; sliced
    2 md Onions
    1 ea Sprig fresh thyme and
    -rosemary
    2 sl Brown toast sprinkled with
    -ground mixed spice
    6 oz red wine
    6 Parsley stalks tied in
    -muslin with
    4 whole cloves and
    2 blades Mace
    1/4 ts Ground ginger
    Salt to taste
    1 tb Red wine vinegar

    Discard the foot joints of the hare and any flaps of skin on the
    saddle. Cut through the spine between the rib cage and fleshier
    saddle. Put all the meat in a stewpan with the stock and blood or
    pig's liver and cook gently for 15 minutes. Meanwhile, peel and
    chop the onions and chop the thyme and rosemary leaves. Steep the
    spiced toast in the wine.

    Remove the hare meat from the pan and strain the stock, discarding
    the liver if used. Rinse the hare meat in cold water. Return the
    stock to the pan with the chopped onions and herbs and add the
    spice bundle. Stir in the mushy soaked bread and wine. Lastly, add
    the meat, putting the rib cage on top. Cover the pan and cook the
    civet gently for 2 hours or until the meat is tender.

    Just before serving, blend the ginger and salt into the vinegar
    and stir in the sauce. Discard the rib cage. Transfer to a
    casserole or deep dish and serve hot.

    Carlton Food Network http://www.cfn.co.uk/

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    Cheers

    Jim


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  • From JIM WELLER@1:123/140 to DALE SHIPP on Saturday, May 25, 2019 21:01:00
    Quoting Dale Shipp to Jim Weller <=-

    People's tastes have changed and food made with blood for human consumption is simply not saleable ...

    Not so. I can recall going into the local H-Mart (a Korean grocery
    store) with Michael and him spotting packages of blood for sale (I
    believe frozen).

    I should have added "in any substantial amounts". There are some
    ethnic niche markets. Most of the available supply is diverted to
    those other purposes or discarded.

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    Title: Lithuanian Omelet with Hemp Seed
    Categories: Lithuanian, Eggs
    Yield: 2 servings

    4 Eggs
    1/2 c Hemp seed
    3 tb Water
    1 Onion, chopped
    3 tb Vegetable oil
    pn Salt

    Fry hemp seed with onion and salt until seeds are crisp. Pour fried
    mixture into a mortar and make a fine powder. Beat eggs with water,
    hemp seed powder, mix well. Pour eggs into frying pan with hot oil,
    fry both sides until golden brown. Serve with hot potatoes.

    Lithuanian National Cultural Center
    From: http://www.lnkc.lt
    Compiled by Birute Imbrasiene
    Translated by Giedre Ambrozaitiene

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    Jim


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