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    From MICHAEL LOO@1:123/140 to DALE SHIPP on Saturday, May 18, 2019 10:14:14
    Of course, senior plates most often do not come with
    a discount commensurate with the smaller portions.
    I suspect that is because the food cost is not a major part of the

    For sure. Nonetheless, the pricing system encourages
    people to do the doggy bag thing, which fuels the
    phenomenon so there's a sort of escalation by feedback
    loop, the result being that restaurants serve portions
    that could feed a family of four, because they then
    can give an impression of generosity while not adding
    much to their costs.

    overhead for the restaurant. I don't know how much a $20 plate costs
    for the raw food, but suspect that it is well less than $8. Do you
    know?

    Yeah. Breakeven at a run of the mill eatery is going to
    be 20-25% food costs, but fancy places often go to 1/3 or
    more; fancy places go out of business, too.

    I've been doing that for decades - used to order three
    appetizers, then, as I aged and my appetites diminished,
    two appetizers or just a main. The distinction between
    Which is why we have begun to favor "happy hour", for lower priced
    appetizers more than for discounts on the booze.

    Happy hours are get-warm-bodies-in-the-door ploys.
    Some offer very good value, but often one has to be
    careful. A diner may have a hankering for potato
    skins, a high margin item, and that makes up for
    someone like you or me who shops the specials more
    carefully. We went to a place yesterday that offered
    $2 off selected food and drinks at happy hour, but
    scrutiny showed that those were the crummiest deals
    to begin with.

    You may well have had this exact dish at Ian's. Most notable thing
    Not at Ian's. Ian would not have offered me an
    Indian meal at his table.
    Really -- I would have imagined that Ian was rather catholic in his food choices. (Note that was a small c, not capital C).

    But he also knows his audience and realizes that
    I didn't go to France to eat Indian food.

    citations (I am very much against that and will
    fix grammar and spelling without compunction).
    I often edit recipes I decide to publish. Mostly to break up run on paragraphs into separate logical paragraphs.

    Likewise. I fix grammar, often spelling, sometimes
    punctuation, occasionally instructions.

    Title: LAMB WITH ONIONS
    Categories: Indian, Meats

    I can hardly imagine an Indian lamb dish that
    didn't have onions!

    SOURCE: Madhur Jaffray, published in Toronto Star Shared by Anne
    MacLellan Submitted By KAREN MINTZIAS On 06-26-94

    A long chain of custody.

    Custardy apple squares
    categories: dessert, fruit
    servings: 8

    3 md juicy, sweet apples, peeled
    - such as Gala or Fuji
    1/2 c flour
    1 ts baking powder
    2 lg eggs, room temp
    1/3 c sugar
    1 pn fine sea salt
    2 ts pure vanilla extract
    6 Tb whole milk, at room temperature
    2 Tb unsalted butter, melted and cooled
    confectioners' sugar, for dusting (opt)

    Oven at 400F. Butter an 8" square baking pan
    and line the bottom with parchment paper.

    Slice the apples about 1/16" thick.

    Whisk the flour and baking powder together..

    In a large bowl whisk the eggs, sugar, and
    salt together until the eggs are pale. Whisk
    in the vanilla, followed by the milk and
    melted butter. Turn the flour into the bowl
    and stir until the batter is smooth. Add the
    apples and gently fold the apples into the
    batter with a spatula, turning until each
    slice is coated in batter. Scrape the batter
    into the pan and smooth the top as evenly as
    you can--it will be bumpy.

    Place on a rack in the center of the oven and
    bake 40 to 50 min until golden brown and
    puffed and a knife inserted into the center
    comes out clean. Transfer the pan to a cooling
    rack and allow to cool for at least 15 min.

    Using a long knife, cut the cake into 8 squares
    (or as many rectangles as you'd like) in the
    pan (being careful not to damage the pan), or
    unmold the cake onto a rack, flip it onto a
    plate and cut into squares. Dust with
    confectioners' sugar before serving if desired.

    You can add a couple of Tb of dark rum, Calvados,
    applejack or Armagnac or a drop of almond extract
    to the batter. If you have an orange or a lemon
    handy, you can grate the zest over the sugar and
    rub the ingredients together until fragrant. You
    can also change the fruit. Pears are perfect and
    a combination of apples and pears even better.
    Or make the cake with 2 firm mangoes--the texture
    will be different, but still good - or very thinly
    sliced quince. Finally, if you want to make this
    look a little dressier, you can warm some apple
    jelly in a microwave and spread a thin layer of
    it over the top with a pastry brush.

    May be served warm, room temperature, or cool,
    plain or with whippex cream, ice cream, or just
    about anything.

    after Dorie Greenspan, Baking Chez Moi
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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Michael Loo on Sunday, May 19, 2019 03:16:04
    On 05-18-19 10:14, Michael Loo <=-
    spoke to Dale Shipp about 403 Doggy bags <=-

    Which is why we have begun to favor "happy hour", for lower priced appetizers more than for discounts on the booze.

    Happy hours are get-warm-bodies-in-the-door ploys.
    Some offer very good value, but often one has to be
    careful. A diner may have a hankering for potato
    skins, a high margin item, and that makes up for
    someone like you or me who shops the specials more
    carefully. We went to a place yesterday that offered
    $2 off selected food and drinks at happy hour, but
    scrutiny showed that those were the crummiest deals
    to begin with.

    IMO, happy hours have multiple purposes. One is to attract people to
    come and give the restaurant a try -- hoping that they like it well
    enough to become regulars. Same could be said of the Groupon offers,
    except they tend to be more at places that are either new or struggling.

    We have a few places where we will return for the happy hour. Shannon's
    is one (they have the best buffalo wings we have had). Another is
    Cheesecake Factory. Although we have not been there in quite a while,
    their selections were quite good.


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    Title: Spinach & Chickpeas (Vegan)
    Categories: Low fat, Indian, Posted
    Yield: 4 Servings

    12 oz Package frozen spinach
    Leaves
    1 c Chickpeas (garbanzo beans)
    Already cooked
    2 tb Good curry powder
    2 Cloves garlic, minced
    1/2 md Onion, chopped
    2 c Water

    Put the frozen block of spinach in a micro-proof dish with 1/2 cup of
    water and nuke on high for about 3 minutes, enough to loosen the
    spinach leaves. While that's going, put curry powder, minced garlic
    and chopped onion in non-stick skillet with no liquid and sort of
    toast, moving with a spatula constantly. Be careful not to let the
    skillet over heat. I just did it till the spices seemed to smell a
    little stronger.

    Add the spinach and all its liquid, the chickpeas, and the remaining 2
    cups of water to the skillet.

    Simmer covered for about 20 minutes, then uncover for another 15 or
    so, until the fluid is reduced to maybe 1/2 a cup. (I'm not sure
    about the time, it was Sunday morning and I wasn't in a hurry!)

    Serve with plain rice or with rice cooked with complimentary spices.
    My rice was a lot spicier than the main dish.

    Date: Mon, 04 Apr 94 08:56:00 PDT
    From: sally charette
    <ECZ5SCC@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU>

    Converted to MM format by Dale & Gail Shipp, Columbia Md.

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