• Food Cost

    From Dave Drum@1:229/452 to Dale Shipp on Thursday, May 16, 2019 11:06:52
    Dale Shipp wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Of course, senior plates most often do not come with
    a discount commensurate with the smaller portions.

    I suspect that is because the food cost is not a major part of the overhead for the restaurant. I don't know how much a $20 plate costs
    for the raw food, but suspect that it is well less than $8. Do you
    know?

    Food cost, typically, is around 25% of the overhead. It's one of
    the "prime costs" along with labour, management, and lease. Which
    will make up 65% to 75% of the budget. After taxes and insurance
    and advertising on can hope there is enough left of the 25% to 35%
    to show a profit.

    OK -- given your figures, let me do the math. If we are generous and
    say that we cut the food cost in half from 25% (part of the 65%) we are left with 65-12.5 or 52.5% as being the total bill, and 52.5/65 => that the senior portion would cost about 80% of the full portion. That may
    be right, but I suspect it is less, but no where near only 50% of the
    full portion.

    I don't have a lot of experience with "senior" menu items. Denny's has
    (or had - they're no longer in my town) some "senior" menu selections
    that were 2/3 to 3/4 the amount of a "full" serving. And about 25% less
    in price. IHOP has a 55+ menu page with quantities and prices reduced.
    I've not "done the math". I tend to order the "senior omelet" with the
    addition of some porky flesh (bacon or sausage) for an upcharge and get
    pepper jack cheese for the cheese. The senior omelet w/meat and an order
    of 2 pancakes or hash browns is $7.58 + tax. Regular menu meat+cheese
    omelet is $8.47 + tax (beverage not included in either calculation). I
    haven't ordered the regular menu omelet so I can't say how it compares
    in size/quantity.

    Then there is Golden Corral - they give seniors a 50c break on their
    menu pricing. But include the beverage. I am usually there for breakfast
    so I can get my fill of bacon - fried, battered & deep fried, candied,
    etc. And they've got really good cinnamon rolls.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: St. George Cinnamon Rolls
    Categories: Breads, Desserts
    Yield: 8 servings

    1 c Water
    +=PLUS=+
    3 tb Water
    1/4 c Sugar
    1/3 c Oil
    2 tb Instant yeast
    1 lg Egg
    1 tb Salt
    3 1/2 c Flour
    Cinnamon
    Brown sugar
    White sugar

    Mix first four ingredients and let set for 15 minutes or
    longer in a bowl.

    Add the egg, salt, and flour.

    Knead for 1 minutes and let rise for 20 minutes.

    Roll out, spread with butter, sprinkle with cinnamon,
    brown sugar, and white sugar.

    Roll up and slice about 1 1/2" thick.

    Place in greased pan.

    Let raise for 15 minutes.

    Bake for 10-15 minutes at 375°F/190°C.

    Frost with favourite buttercream recipe or cream
    cheese frosting.

    RECIPE FROM: http://recipeofhealth.com

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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Dave Drum on Friday, May 17, 2019 01:37:02
    On 05-16-19 11:06, Dave Drum <=-
    spoke to Dale Shipp about Food Cost <=-

    Of course, senior plates most often do not come with
    a discount commensurate with the smaller portions.

    Then there is Golden Corral - they give seniors a 50c break on their
    menu pricing. But include the beverage. I am usually there for
    breakfast so I can get my fill of bacon - fried, battered & deep fried, candied, etc. And they've got really good cinnamon rolls.

    The senior discounts given by places are not for a reduced amount of
    food -- they are simply a measure to give those people an incentive to patronize their establishment. Ditto with discounts to veterans,
    albeit a bit of patriotism is tossed into that one.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

    Title: Chilie Tomato Salad
    Categories: Salads, Indian, Appetizer, Vegetable
    Yield: 2 servings

    6 sm Tomatoes
    1/2 bn Parsley, chopped
    1/2 Hot green chili, chopped
    1 1/2 ts Olive oil
    2 tb Lemon juice
    1 pn Salt & pepper
    1 pn Cayenne

    Quarter the tomatoes. Mix parsley & chili with the tomatoes & chill.
    Combine the remaining ingredients & set aside to rest. Just before
    serving, mix the salad dressing with the salad.

    Adapted from Ismail Merchant's "Indian Cuisine"
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  • From Dave Drum@1:229/452 to Dale Shipp on Friday, May 17, 2019 10:48:16
    Dale Shipp wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Of course, senior plates most often do not come with
    a discount commensurate with the smaller portions.

    Then there is Golden Corral - they give seniors a 50c break on their
    menu pricing. But include the beverage. I am usually there for
    breakfast so I can get my fill of bacon - fried, battered & deep fried, candied, etc. And they've got really good cinnamon rolls.

    The senior discounts given by places are not for a reduced amount of
    food -- they are simply a measure to give those people an incentive to patronize their establishment. Ditto with discounts to veterans,
    albeit a bit of patriotism is tossed into that one.

    I understand the difference between a "senior menu" and "senior discount".

    For instance Denny's has a senior menu AND offers a 15% AARP discount
    on your check. So, it's possible to "double dip". I've taken the AARP
    discount several times (when we had a presence locally) and never been
    asked to show my AARP member card. Bv)=

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Double Dip Taco Dip
    Categories: Cheese, Dairy, Vegetables
    Yield: 12 servings

    8 oz Cream cheese; softened
    8 oz Dairy sour cream
    1 1/4 oz Env taco seasoning mix
    1/4 Head iceberg lettuce; rinsed
    - spun dry, shredded
    1 c Shredded Cheddar cheese
    3 lg Tomatoes; seeded, chopped
    6 Green onions; chopped

    In a medium mixing bowl, combine cream cheese, sour
    cream and taco seasoning. Spread mixture in a 9" round
    serving dish. Top with green onions, lettuce, cheddar
    cheese, and tomatoes. Serve with tortilla chips (or
    vegetable crudities - UDD)

    Submitted by: Lauren Ragaller

    RECIPE FROM: http://appetizer.betterrecipes.com

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