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    From MICHAEL LOO@1:123/140 to RUTH HAFFLY on Wednesday, May 15, 2019 14:58:40
    And come back with a different plan of attack.
    Or refrain from doing that.
    True, whichever is to your advantage.
    Or puts things in a more general balance.
    That'll work too.

    To me, it's more important than my self-interest.

    We went to one of those stores with some friends in PA a few years
    ago. > They bought quite a few things; we left the store as empty
    handed as we > came in. Everything we looked at had a "Best By" date that was long
    past.
    So you've witnessed what I was talking about.
    Yes, and figured it wasn't worth our time/money in that place.

    Think of it as a product museum or zoo. You wouldn't
    want to take an aardvark home, but they're fun to
    look at.

    But people don't want to be such a BOther. Except
    that they are.
    Agreed--that sort of action hurts others in the long run.
    That's why many harmful behaviors should be
    minimized - not so much that they hurt the actor,
    but rather that they affect others, directly or
    indirectly.
    So many of them think that they're only hurting themselves. NOT!

    I wouldn't worry so much if they actually
    thought they were hurting themselves.

    Not all German breeds make tough beef. Holsteins for
    example are prized meat animals in some parts of the
    world.
    It's been so long since we were over there, I've no idea what cuts or
    cows the commissaries had.

    And in decades gone by, with more expensive
    meat and cheaper fuel, there was a lot of long
    slow cooking - as I recall, in my early days,
    grilling was viewed mostly as a special-occasion
    thing.

    One question is whether gelatin is as worthless as
    the dietitians say.
    A bit of protein in the gelatin is all I can see.

    The word was that the amino acids in gelatin are
    less complete than the ones you get in muscle meats
    and dairy products, but now it seems its image has
    been rehabilitated, anywhat that's what a quick
    look at the Internet has to offer. People are
    beginning to realize, who cares if your protein
    profile is incomplete, just match with something else.

    Homemade gelatin
    categories: ingredient, supplement
    yield: 1 batch

    3 to 4 lb animal bones and connective tissue
    water to cover the bones
    1 Tb salt (opt)

    Put the bones in a pot or slow cooker. If you're
    using salt, add it now. Pour in enough water to
    just cover the contents. Bring to a boil then
    reduce heat to a simmer. Simmer on a low heat for
    up to 48 hr. The longer it cooks, the more
    gelatin you'll extract. Strain the liquid, and
    then allow it to cool and solidify. Scrape off
    any fat from the surface and discard it.

    This is very similar to how bone broth is made,
    which is also a fantastic source of gelatin.

    The gelatin will keep for a week in the fridge,
    or a year in the freezer. Use it stirred into
    gravies and sauces, or add it to desserts.

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to MICHAEL LOO on Thursday, May 16, 2019 20:57:53
    Hi Michael,

    And come back with a different plan of attack.
    Or refrain from doing that.
    True, whichever is to your advantage.
    Or puts things in a more general balance.
    That'll work too.

    To me, it's more important than my self-interest.

    Whatever works best for you.

    We went to one of those stores with some friends in PA a few
    years > ML> ago. > They bought quite a few things; we left the store
    as empty > ML> handed as we > came in. Everything we looked at had a "Best By" date > ML> that was long
    past.
    So you've witnessed what I was talking about.
    Yes, and figured it wasn't worth our time/money in that place.

    Think of it as a product museum or zoo. You wouldn't
    want to take an aardvark home, but they're fun to
    look at.

    We coould have spent the time better, elsewhere, had we known that the
    store was all expired stuff. Didn't find anything that had a best by
    date even close to when we were there, usually at least a month or more
    past the best by date.

    But people don't want to be such a BOther. Except
    that they are.
    Agreed--that sort of action hurts others in the long run.
    That's why many harmful behaviors should be
    minimized - not so much that they hurt the actor,
    but rather that they affect others, directly or
    indirectly.
    So many of them think that they're only hurting themselves. NOT!

    I wouldn't worry so much if they actually
    thought they were hurting themselves.

    They usually don't want to think about all the damage they're doing to themselves. My chain smoking sister has, for the past I don't know how
    many years, has claimed her cough is "because I'm just getting over a
    cold". Sorry, that doesn't fly; she wore out that excuse many years ago.

    Not all German breeds make tough beef. Holsteins for
    example are prized meat animals in some parts of the
    world.
    It's been so long since we were over there, I've no idea what cuts
    or > cows the commissaries had.

    And in decades gone by, with more expensive
    meat and cheaper fuel, there was a lot of long
    slow cooking - as I recall, in my early days,
    grilling was viewed mostly as a special-occasion
    thing.

    My dad grilled a good amount of chicken during the summer months when I
    was growing up; IIRC, it was usually on Saturday nights. He did steaks
    from time to time, but not as often, and usually to the point of very
    well done.

    One question is whether gelatin is as worthless as
    the dietitians say.
    A bit of protein in the gelatin is all I can see.

    The word was that the amino acids in gelatin are
    less complete than the ones you get in muscle meats
    and dairy products, but now it seems its image has
    been rehabilitated, anywhat that's what a quick
    look at the Internet has to offer. People are
    beginning to realize, who cares if your protein
    profile is incomplete, just match with something else.

    We've done the complimentary protein route fairly often but I always
    made sure that both parts of the protein were in the same meal.

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    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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