• 344 pear 'n' oil was + the real one was

    From MICHAEL LOO@1:123/140 to NANCY BACKUS on Monday, May 06, 2019 18:24:12
    Oh, ok... I have heard tales of that, just didn't recognize the initials...
    It stands for Under the Gum Tree, apparently where idlers
    like Kevin (who named the list) would hang out in Australia.
    Ok, that makes sense.... :)
    Makes extra sense when you know Glen and Kevin.
    I do known their reputations... and Glen was still posting here when I
    first came on board... :)

    They're both stereotypical Aussies, brash and
    defensive, massively chauvinistic, well, okay,
    most people everywhere are like that. Both are
    bright; Glen is educated and has had a number
    of productive careers; Kevin is trained in the
    school of Hard Knocks and has had a disastrous
    life path. Both interesting.

    There are so many dubious quotes floating around there
    from Einstein, Saint-Exupery, Obama, Nietzsche, Hitler,
    Yogi Berra, Abraham Lincoln, ... . As I've noted, the
    best way for someone to get a cockamamie (or even profound)
    statement accepted and proliferated is to attribute it to
    someone famous.
    Even when it makes no sense, timewise.... And those famous persons have said plenty of other things worth quoting.... :)
    Don't believe everything you read online. - Aristotle
    Yeah, right... good advice though... ;)

    Don't even believe everything you read on the
    Cooking Echo. - R. Davis Greyhound, founder of FIDO

    Just what I needed, a twin in Rochester.
    You mean that doesn't make you feel special....? ;)
    I've had people claim they were my twin separated at
    birth only to discover that in some fundamental ways
    we weren't.
    I found some soul mates of a sort over the years... but never quite a
    twin separated at birth sort... :)

    I've had a few people who wanted to be such; also
    a couple evil twins who looked very much like me,
    one of whom also kind of played the violin.

    I've read numerous stories of people who went into
    banking, lawyering, or even medicine and then chucked
    it all to do what they wanted to do in the first place,
    cooking or acting or riding hogs or whatever.
    Or music, even.... ;)
    Gasp.
    I know... can you believe it...!? ;)

    Oh, the horror.The trumpet player for Fiddler was
    the contractor I worked for at North Shore Music
    Theatre back in the last millennium. We were kind
    of surprised to see each other. He has done pretty
    well for himself in the business but has not got
    the financial success someone of his eminence in
    another field might have achieved, i.e., he's not
    a multimillionaire or in Englewood or Otisville.

    I don't know what the guy's crimes consisted of, but
    all I cared about was that they didn't involve me.
    Yup, that would be important.... :)
    It seemed that he made a feeler once, but I didn't
    get felt. As with people's sexuality I don't care just
    so long as you keep your hands off my butt; I don't
    care what you do for business just so long as you keep
    your hands out of my pocket.
    Or implicate one....?

    That's a case where I felt more comfortable being
    scrutinized than not.

    Small enough quantities, probably none at all... :)
    I know that zinc supplements are generally gluconate;
    the oxide is probably a lot less soluble so even less
    likely to cause trouble.
    I suppose. :)

    The Internet says that it is in fact used as a
    supplement in breakfast cereal.

    Mome raths.
    Out grabe....
    There was a recent article in the Times about the
    raisin crisis..
    What raisin crisis...?

    Read the article - it was in the Times a week
    or so ago and discusses the relations between
    the Sun-Maid company and the "raisin mafia,"
    which has upset the dried fruit market lately.

    Oddly, bright sun is worse for me now than dimmish
    light, because of the glare (that's likely the
    cataracts talking; other problems make other issues).
    Sigh...

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    It's been shown that the economic booms promised by
    proponents of new zillion-dollar sports stadiums just
    don't happen. Baseball comes closer to breakeven, but
    even it's not significant.
    So I've observed over the years...

    And still the taxpayers don't learn.

    The kids (30 and below) I'm acquainted with are
    more likely to know the repertoire of Louics CK
    and the latest crop of hip-hop/rappers.
    Less of that in my circles, to be sure... in my neighborhood that could
    be the case, but, without a child in the household here any more, I have
    less occasion to interact with them....

    When the simpleminded pablum of the second half of
    the 20th century is considered classic compared to
    the simpleminded pablum of the 21st century, you
    know something is gone kaflooey.

    M's note: lean bacon? lean pork belly? wwtt?
    Could help explain why British food is so bland.... I note they also
    call for pouring off the juices.... more flavor lost....
    The thing is until not so long ago the Brits
    embraced fat, what they could get anyway.
    Perhaps now that it is more available, they are succumbing to the
    "popular opinion" about the indesirability thereof....?

    If you're scrabbling for every calorie you can
    get, its label is not going to be so important.

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    Title: Sauerbraten ala Loren Martin
    Categories: Cyberealm, Meats
    Yield: 6 servings

    1 4-lb boneless roast
    2 c Red wine and red
    Wine vinegar mixed
    2 c Water
    1 Cl Garlic, minced
    3/4 c Onion, sliced
    1 Bay leaf
    12 Peppercorns
    1/4 c Sugar
    3 Cloves
    Flour
    2 tb Bacon drippings
    1 1/2 c Sour cream

    Season meat with salt and pepper to taste. Place in large bowl. Bring
    wine, vinegar and water to boil. Add garlic, onion, bay leaf,
    peppercorns, sugar and cloves. Pour over beef. Cover and refrigerate
    12 hours overnight. Remove meat and dry thoroughly. Dredge meat with
    flour. Heat bacon drippings in large, heavy kettle, add meat and
    brown on all sides. Add half of marinade. Cover tightly and simmer
    until tender (2-1/2 to 3 hours). Remove meat to platter and keep hot.
    Thicken gravy with 2 tbs. each of flour and water mixed and stirred
    into gravy over fairly high heat. Stir in sour cream. Pour over
    sliced meat. (I actually marinate this recipe for 3-4 days in the
    refrigerator....the longer, the more sour!!!)
    Modified from Joy of Cooking by Loren Martin, Big Cabin, OK

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