• 295 Red-Eye Gravy

    From MICHAEL LOO@1:123/140 to KURT WEISKE on Friday, April 26, 2019 09:33:06
    Has anyone heard of this? URL attribution below...
    Use Stale, Leftover Coffee to Make Red-Eye Gravy

    Yeah, but I've never seen it made with stale coffee,
    rather the bottom of today's pot. It's salty and bitter
    as the article says, but I've seen it poured on top of
    ham slice mostly. I don't see what's so terrific about it
    though; it looks to be young people opening their eyes
    and discovering their roots real or imagined who are
    so enthralled by it. That may be because I've had it
    only in places you'd think I wouldn't be caught dead in.

    This is obviously not too terrible of a tragedy. Coffee quitters like
    myself can freeze this leftover coffee into ice cubes or chill it for low-brow iced coffee, but I think that last stale bit is best utilized
    in the making of red-eye gravy.

    If you wish. I'd rather have low-brow iced coffee
    myself, especially with condensed milk the way the
    Vietnamese do it (this is a relatively new enthusiasm
    for me, as until recently both lactose and caffeine
    have been no-nos).

    Red-eye gravy is quite different from its thick and creamy,˙sausage
    studded Southern cousin.

    I'd not say that it was any relation to sausage gravy.
    It's like a French-style deglazing, using some spare
    liquid to get all the brown bits off a skillet, saving
    Maillard-based flavor and making it easier to clean the
    pan at the same time. Only you don't reduce this one much,
    because the result of that would be way too strong to use
    except perhaps as weed killer. You just boil it fast just
    until the fat in the pan is incorporated, done. With a
    proper piece of ham with a decent amount of fat, no
    butter is needed to chichify things.

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    Title: Red Eye Gravy
    Categories: Toppings
    Yield: 6 servings

    1/3 c Strong black coffee Pork drippings

    After cooking the breakfast meat (bacon, ham or sausage), remove it from
    the iron skillet and put aside. To the drippings, pour 1/3 cup of strong
    coffee and stir while on the fire. Pour over hot grits or sop up with hot
    biscuits.

    The above is from "White Trash Cooking"; Ernest Matthew Mickler.

    My mother has made red-eye gravy as long as I can remember, but she does
    not use coffee in the drippings.

    I don't have measurements, but when the breakfast meat is done (usually
    country ham), she allows the drippings to get VERY hot in the pan (cast
    iron skillet) then pours water in and again let's this get VERY hot.

    Hope this combination of "techniques" is helpful.

    Sonya Whitaker-Quandt 3/92

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  • From Kurt Weiske@1:218/700 to MICHAEL LOO on Friday, April 26, 2019 08:39:00
    MICHAEL LOO wrote to KURT WEISKE <=-

    Yeah, but I've never seen it made with stale coffee,
    rather the bottom of today's pot. It's salty and bitter
    as the article says, but I've seen it poured on top of
    ham slice mostly. I don't see what's so terrific about it
    though; it looks to be young people opening their eyes
    and discovering their roots real or imagined who are
    so enthralled by it.

    I guess everything old is new again, and with the new austerity, I
    think people are rediscovering creative ways to cook with what you
    have and not wasting anything.

    I saw a cookbook in Cost Plus imports that was recipes for cooking
    with food scraps; it looked interesting, using corn cobs minus the
    corn to make a stock for a tortilla soup looked interesting.

    All I've done so far it to turn bruised fruit into smoothies for my
    kids. They love them just the same.






    That may be because I've had it
    only in places you'd think I wouldn't be caught dead in.

    This is obviously not too terrible of a tragedy. Coffee quitters like
    myself can freeze this leftover coffee into ice cubes or chill it for low-brow iced coffee, but I think that last stale bit is best utilized
    in the making of red-eye gravy.

    If you wish. I'd rather have low-brow iced coffee
    myself, especially with condensed milk the way the
    Vietnamese do it (this is a relatively new enthusiasm
    for me, as until recently both lactose and caffeine
    have been no-nos).

    Red-eye gravy is quite different from its thick and creamy,˙sausage
    studded Southern cousin.

    I'd not say that it was any relation to sausage gravy.
    It's like a French-style deglazing, using some spare
    liquid to get all the brown bits off a skillet, saving
    Maillard-based flavor and making it easier to clean the
    pan at the same time. Only you don't reduce this one much,
    because the result of that would be way too strong to use
    except perhaps as weed killer. You just boil it fast just
    until the fat in the pan is incorporated, done. With a
    proper piece of ham with a decent amount of fat, no
    butter is needed to chichify things.

    ---------- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.01

    Title: Red Eye Gravy
    Categories: Toppings
    Yield: 6 servings

    1/3 c Strong black coffee Pork drippings

    After cooking the breakfast meat (bacon, ham or sausage), remove it
    from
    the iron skillet and put aside. To the drippings, pour 1/3 cup of
    strong
    coffee and stir while on the fire. Pour over hot grits or sop up with hot
    biscuits.

    The above is from "White Trash Cooking"; Ernest Matthew Mickler.

    My mother has made red-eye gravy as long as I can remember, but she
    does
    not use coffee in the drippings.

    I don't have measurements, but when the breakfast meat is done
    (usually
    country ham), she allows the drippings to get VERY hot in the pan
    (cast
    iron skillet) then pours water in and again let's this get VERY hot.

    Hope this combination of "techniques" is helpful.

    Sonya Whitaker-Quandt 3/92

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  • From Carol Shenkenberger@1:275/100 to MICHAEL LOO on Tuesday, April 30, 2019 19:59:19
    Re: 295 Red-Eye Gravy
    By: MICHAEL LOO to KURT WEISKE on Fri Apr 26 2019 09:33 am

    Has anyone heard of this? URL attribution below...
    Use Stale, Leftover Coffee to Make Red-Eye Gravy

    Yeah, but I've never seen it made with stale coffee,
    rather the bottom of today's pot. It's salty and bitter
    as the article says, but I've seen it poured on top of
    ham slice mostly. I don't see what's so terrific about it
    though; it looks to be young people opening their eyes
    and discovering their roots real or imagined who are
    so enthralled by it. That may be because I've had it
    only in places you'd think I wouldn't be caught dead in.

    This is obviously not too terrible of a tragedy. Coffee quitters like myself can freeze this leftover coffee into ice cubes or chill it for low-brow iced coffee, but I think that last stale bit is best utilized
    in the making of red-eye gravy.

    If you wish. I'd rather have low-brow iced coffee
    myself, especially with condensed milk the way the
    Vietnamese do it (this is a relatively new enthusiasm
    for me, as until recently both lactose and caffeine
    have been no-nos).

    Red-eye gravy is quite different from its thick and creamy,˙sausage studded Southern cousin.

    I'd not say that it was any relation to sausage gravy.
    It's like a French-style deglazing, using some spare
    liquid to get all the brown bits off a skillet, saving
    Maillard-based flavor and making it easier to clean the
    pan at the same time. Only you don't reduce this one much,
    because the result of that would be way too strong to use
    except perhaps as weed killer. You just boil it fast just
    until the fat in the pan is incorporated, done. With a
    proper piece of ham with a decent amount of fat, no
    butter is needed to chichify things.

    ---------- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.01

    Title: Red Eye Gravy
    Categories: Toppings
    Yield: 6 servings

    1/3 c Strong black coffee Pork drippings

    After cooking the breakfast meat (bacon, ham or sausage), remove it from
    the iron skillet and put aside. To the drippings, pour 1/3 cup of strong
    coffee and stir while on the fire. Pour over hot grits or sop up with hot
    biscuits.

    The above is from "White Trash Cooking"; Ernest Matthew Mickler.

    My mother has made red-eye gravy as long as I can remember, but she does
    not use coffee in the drippings.

    I don't have measurements, but when the breakfast meat is done (usually
    country ham), she allows the drippings to get VERY hot in the pan (cast
    iron skillet) then pours water in and again let's this get VERY hot.

    Hope this combination of "techniques" is helpful.

    Sonya Whitaker-Quandt 3/92

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    Still makes me wonder.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

    Title: South Carolina Blue Ridge Mountain Red Eye Bean Gravy
    Categories: American, Sauces, Heirloom, Pork, Xxcarol
    Yield: 4 Servings

    Cooked kidney beans
    Bean sauce
    Fat pork
    Flour
    Water
    Salt
    Spices
    Pepper
    Sugar

    I was a bit shocked to see others adding *coffee* to it! A more
    accurate label for 'red eye gravy' in my area of the world, was one
    with crackings and the center bone from the ham, and red beans. The
    bone made the 'eye' and the beans made the 'red'. Red Eye Gravy.

    Seems i'm the only one who makes the spicy bean type in this echo.
    Shrug, doenwt bother me any but watch out if you go to the mountain
    side of SC because evidently the 'red eye gravy' is *quite*
    different! Just as tastey, but a differnt taste.

    Ours is a bean gravy with a bit of fat and lots of spices. The ones
    posted here are fat and coffee with some flour and maybe some few
    spices.

    I wonder if historically the difference wasnt that the one I post
    comes from before coffee was much avalaible (folks in the backlands
    drank chicory) but beans and fatty meats were relatively abundant.

    Got curious and looked through some more of the old letters. From
    Elizabeth Cooper to Elizabeth Cooper (same name, first one is
    grandmother to second one).

    Breakfast Gravy

    Take a goodlie amount of well cooked beans that are soft and in the
    sauce Add to a hot pan after cooking the meat (later its clear she
    means fat pork) Stir and add some flour and water Add salt and if you
    have it, spices such as pepper. If no spices, add sugar.

    Cook a few moments til hot, then mash it. Stir and add water til it's
    gravy.

    Smile! That was fun. Had to assume some words and some of it had to
    do with when to add more wood to the fire. It reads in such a way
    that I am sure it was made over the fireplace, quickly, after the
    rest of the breakfast was ready and before it cooled. Comes with
    advise on feeding men, and what to feed them first. From: Carol
    Shenkenberger Date: 14 Mar 98

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