• 236 extended travel was again + [1] + [2] + [1] + [2]

    From MICHAEL LOO@1:123/140 to RUTH HAFFLY on Sunday, April 14, 2019 08:21:38
    I've not checked them out. The N&O food critic hasn't reviewed them
    yet.
    For really hopeless places the papers often don't,
    unless they're trying to get a rise out of someone.
    IIRC, they said they have a couple of places in/around Raleigh but
    they're based in Charlotte.

    All the more reason not to give them a writeup.

    Very true, and in Germany, the other diners have
    always been welcoming and informative, despite my
    having a vocabulary auf Deutsch of maybe 50 words
    unrelated to food and a lot of the places having
    a clientele that spoke no English at all.
    But you all got along well enough to enjoy your meals.
    No ifs, ands, or buts. The meals were as good as the
    kitchen could provide, the company was almost always
    just fine, and the communication, well, imperfect.
    Sometimes that's the best you can hope for.

    Always, I'd say.

    Good for less than commonly known stuff for
    which there are acceptable experts.
    Maybe taken with a grain or two of salt.
    It's a talent to be cultivated, judging how much
    salt to use.
    We use much less than the average.

    I know.

    If at first you don't succeed
    ... fail fail again.
    Or, as our girls used to say, "If at first you don't fricasse, fry, fry,
    fry a hen".

    Or, as I read, try a ham!

    For me that's the preferable way, especially when
    there's a good blast of heat (my cooking tends to run
    hot, as much Asian cuisine dictates.
    I'll take hot up to a point, then back off.

    There's no point. A good stir-fry needs all
    the heat you can throw at it.

    +

    Sacerdote would find some of the fodder for his
    tasting adventures at salvage stores such as Ocean
    State Job Lots, where the more dubious canned products
    were often available for less than you could make them
    (if indeed you wanted to make them at all).
    We've got a Big Lots store in Raleigh, similar concept. Explored it a
    couple of times but not found much of interest. Ollies, OTOH, we'll get
    non food stuffs there.

    Big Lots I know, and yes, same idea; Ollies I seem
    to recall but not much about it.

    hempfarm.co.nz - inspired by The Food Network
    I'd use olive, instead of hemp oil, but, that's my choice.
    I'd use neutral, because the other ingredients provide
    the flavor in this dressing, so olive might be a bit
    much. Soybean or canola most likely for me, though if
    you live on, work in, or are trying to tout, a hemp farm,
    Canola is another one I keep on the shelf so would probably grab it for
    a neutral, light flavor.

    My friend Dave and his girl came over for dinner and music,
    and she can't do canola, soy, dairy, or corn. I had to make
    things with olive oil (not great for Indian food) and
    coconut oil.

    +

    As long as you remember where you put the card, it'll be a big help.
    There is that. I lost my Boston senior card, which gives
    me half off, and may have to go to the T office to order a
    replacement.
    But at least you do have public transportation, and they're willing to
    give a senior discount.

    Most systems have senior discounts - we oldsters
    make up much of the ridership and so are likely to
    get more of what we want, being a major voting bloc.

    Some semblance of routine can be helpful. That's (one
    presumes) how they developed. I on the other hand am
    suspicious of routines.
    Some things I do by routine, others, not. First thing I usually do in
    the kitchen every morning is to make a cuppa tea. As it's cooling to
    drinking temps, I can do other things like empty out the dishwasher. The
    rest of the day--some semblence of a routine on some, not on others.

    I'm leery of them partially because I'm
    crummy at them.

    Dimes are lighter than pennies.
    Well, yeah, that is clear "from inspection," as the
    chemistry books used to say.
    And I'd rather carry a dime than 10 pennies.

    The commissary ones were labeled in German, interesting.
    So they relied on standard commercial sources rather
    than the more expensive but more secure dedicated
    shipments direct from the states.
    Yes, we could get Danish butter and other European goods. Shortly after
    we got to Frankfurt, there was something going on where the stores were getting a lot of American beef (forget just what it was, but I think
    they had a contract to sell German beef). The upshot was that you could
    get a free package of beef (any kind) per ration card holder per month
    for a certain number of months. Steve and I were both ration card
    holders (to be used for buying American tobacco and alcohol products).
    Got some nice cuts, most of which I was able to get several meals out
    of.

    Some things do work out, though one doesn't
    always understand why or how.

    I read "parachutes," resonating with another echo
    conversation.
    Sounds like those eyes need to be checked. (G)

    Not really, they know what to do, but I'm not a
    candidate for surgery yet because of my other issues.

    It took a while for me to save up for that oven-fried
    chicken lunch, which cost 35c.
    But there were 5 of us kids, so 35c x 5 made a lot of pb&j on white
    bread sandwiches.

    I'd alternate that with doing without
    for contrast.

    it. We all
    outgrew it but for a while, we all had to take dramamine before any
    trip > of over an hour.
    I became sort of addicted to Benadryl at one point.
    Not good.

    There are far worse things to be sort of
    addicted to.

    noticing my mother's increasing anxiety and
    agoraphobia, the charm went away.
    We didn't have that to deal with.
    You can thank your stars for that.
    Quite so.

    I've found in recent years that a happy hour beer
    and appetizer might serve me well for dinner.
    I'll take the latter but sub something else for the former.
    Tried a > ML> Juice is cheaper, too.
    Better tasting too. (G)
    Who asked you?
    Nobody didn't; I volunteered.

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    1 c Unsalted Butter 2 c Flour
    2 tb Sugar

    ---------------------------VANILLA PUDDING LAYER---------------------------
    3 Egg Yolks 2 c Milk
    1/2 c Sugar 2 ts Vanilla Extract
    1/4 c Flour 2 tb Unsalted Butter

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    LAYER-----------------------------
    8 oz Cream Cheese, very soft 1 ts Lemon Juice
    1/2 c Sugar 1 c Cream
    1 ts Vanilla Extract

    ----------------------------WHIPPED CREAM LAYER----------------------------
    1 1/2 c Cream 3 tb Powdered Sugar

    --------------------------PINEAPPLE CARAMEL LAYER--------------------------
    8 oz Can Crushed Pineapple, 1 Jar Caramel or
    Chocolate
    Drained Sauce

    ------------------------------CHOCOLATE GLAZE------------------------------
    2 oz Semi-Sweet Chocolate 1 1/2 ts Vanilla Extract
    2 tb Unsalted Butter

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    350ÿF. Beat butter and sugar until fluffy. Add flour, at low speed in
    mixer, blend until mixture is pebbly and can be pressed together. Press
    mixture on bottom of buttered pan and bake for 20 minutes or until
    golden.
    Cool completely. (If using a food processor, process until ingredients
    are
    a coarse mixture.

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    flour and milk in amdeium saucepan until free of lumps. Set over medium
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to MICHAEL LOO on Sunday, April 14, 2019 19:54:31
    Hi Michael,

    (Burgerim)
    For really hopeless places the papers often don't,
    unless they're trying to get a rise out of someone.
    IIRC, they said they have a couple of places in/around Raleigh but they're based in Charlotte.

    All the more reason not to give them a writeup.

    We're giving them the write off.


    unrelated to food and a lot of the places having
    a clientele that spoke no English at all.
    But you all got along well enough to enjoy your meals.
    No ifs, ands, or buts. The meals were as good as the
    kitchen could provide, the company was almost always
    just fine, and the communication, well, imperfect.
    Sometimes that's the best you can hope for.

    Always, I'd say.

    Most often in a situation like that, your fellow diners are ameinable to sharing a table, and agreeable to attempting to be sociable. There may
    be a bit of a language barrier but if the food is good, even that won't
    stop you from enjoying each other's company.


    Good for less than commonly known stuff for
    which there are acceptable experts.
    Maybe taken with a grain or two of salt.
    It's a talent to be cultivated, judging how much
    salt to use.
    We use much less than the average.

    I know.

    We started cutting back or cutting it out many years ago. When I was in college, I used to automatically reach for the shaker at meal times so
    cutting down/out was a bit of a challenge at first. Now, what a lot of
    people consider a normal salt taste, we find to be overly salty.


    If at first you don't succeed
    ... fail fail again.
    Or, as our girls used to say, "If at first you don't fricasse, fry,
    fry, > fry a hen".

    Or, as I read, try a ham!

    That'll work. (G)

    For me that's the preferable way, especially when
    there's a good blast of heat (my cooking tends to run
    hot, as much Asian cuisine dictates.
    I'll take hot up to a point, then back off.

    There's no point. A good stir-fry needs all
    the heat you can throw at it.

    To cook, yes. To eat, not so much, IMO.

    +

    Sacerdote would find some of the fodder for his
    tasting adventures at salvage stores such as Ocean
    State Job Lots, where the more dubious canned products
    were often available for less than you could make them
    (if indeed you wanted to make them at all).
    We've got a Big Lots store in Raleigh, similar concept. Explored it
    a > couple of times but not found much of interest. Ollies, OTOH,
    we'll get > non food stuffs there.

    Big Lots I know, and yes, same idea; Ollies I seem
    to recall but not much about it.

    Odds and ends, buy outs of this and that. Not much in the food line but
    books, some clothing (seconds/irregulars), furniture, kitchenware,
    planters, plants.........................


    hempfarm.co.nz - inspired by The Food Network
    I'd use olive, instead of hemp oil, but, that's my choice.
    I'd use neutral, because the other ingredients provide
    the flavor in this dressing, so olive might be a bit
    much. Soybean or canola most likely for me, though if
    you live on, work in, or are trying to tout, a hemp farm,
    Canola is another one I keep on the shelf so would probably grab it
    for > a neutral, light flavor.

    My friend Dave and his girl came over for dinner and music,
    and she can't do canola, soy, dairy, or corn. I had to make
    things with olive oil (not great for Indian food) and
    coconut oil.

    Were you forewarned? Helps to know in advance but sometimes all you can
    do is drop back and punt.

    +

    As long as you remember where you put the card, it'll be a
    big help. > ML> There is that. I lost my Boston senior card, which
    gives
    me half off, and may have to go to the T office to order a replacement.
    But at least you do have public transportation, and they're willing
    to > give a senior discount.

    Most systems have senior discounts - we oldsters
    make up much of the ridership and so are likely to
    get more of what we want, being a major voting bloc.

    I saw something about Raleigh debating making busses free for seniors.
    It would be nice, if we lived down there, but we'd have to pay the WF
    shuttle to take advanage of it. We do have a free loop bus in town but
    it doesn't go to some of the areas we'd want it to and there are very
    few stops. Nearest one to us is almost a mile away.

    Some semblance of routine can be helpful. That's (one
    presumes) how they developed. I on the other hand am
    suspicious of routines.
    Some things I do by routine, others, not. First thing I usually do
    in > the kitchen every morning is to make a cuppa tea. As it's cooling
    to
    drinking temps, I can do other things like empty out the dishwasher.
    The > rest of the day--some semblence of a routine on some, not on
    others.

    I'm leery of them partially because I'm
    crummy at them.

    They're good for some things, but not everything.

    shipments direct from the states.
    Yes, we could get Danish butter and other European goods. Shortly
    after > we got to Frankfurt, there was something going on where the
    stores were > getting a lot of American beef (forget just what it was,
    but I think
    they had a contract to sell German beef). The upshot was that you
    could > get a free package of beef (any kind) per ration card holder
    per month > for a certain number of months. Steve and I were both
    ration card
    holders (to be used for buying American tobacco and alcohol
    products). > Got some nice cuts, most of which I was able to get
    several meals out > of.

    Some things do work out, though one doesn't
    always understand why or how.

    We didn't question, we just accepted.


    I read "parachutes," resonating with another echo
    conversation.
    Sounds like those eyes need to be checked. (G)

    Not really, they know what to do, but I'm not a
    candidate for surgery yet because of my other issues.

    I'm holding off on cataract surgery until the knee is better. The eyes
    aren't to the point of urgent; I've got some time yet but probably
    before the year is out...............


    It took a while for me to save up for that oven-fried
    chicken lunch, which cost 35c.
    But there were 5 of us kids, so 35c x 5 made a lot of pb&j on white bread sandwiches.

    I'd alternate that with doing without
    for contrast.

    We had no choice--take the pb&j.


    it. We all
    outgrew it but for a while, we all had to take dramamine
    before any > ML> trip > of over an hour.
    I became sort of addicted to Benadryl at one point.
    Not good.


    CONTINUED IN NEXT MESSAGE <<

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    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to MICHAEL LOO on Sunday, April 14, 2019 20:14:28
    Hi Michael,

    CONTINUED FROM PREVIOUS MESSAGE <<

    Benedryl

    There are far worse things to be sort of
    addicted to.

    Much worse! I was hitting it heavy for a few weeks with the allergic
    reaction I had to the disinfecting wash. But, I also dropped it equally
    fast once most of the rash cleared up. I dropped my regular allergy
    medication while I was on the benedryl but am now back on it.


    noticing my mother's increasing anxiety and
    agoraphobia, the charm went away.
    We didn't have that to deal with.
    You can thank your stars for that.
    Quite so.

    I've found in recent years that a happy hour beer
    and appetizer might serve me well for dinner.
    I'll take the latter but sub something else for the
    former. > ML> Tried a > ML> Juice is cheaper, too.
    Better tasting too. (G)
    Who asked you?
    Nobody didn't; I volunteered.

    Title: Better Than Better-Than-Sex Cake
    Categories: Cakes
    Yield: 1 cake

    I've also heard this called "Robert Redford" (G) or Hummingbird Cake.

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    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Ruth Haffly on Wednesday, April 17, 2019 03:23:02
    On 04-14-19 19:54, Ruth Haffly <=-
    spoke to Michael Loo about 236 extended travel was a <=-

    Not really, they know what to do, but I'm not a
    candidate for surgery yet because of my other issues.

    I'm holding off on cataract surgery until the knee is better. The eyes aren't to the point of urgent; I've got some time yet but probably
    before the year is out...............

    For Gail and I, the decision point to have the surgery was when our
    regular eye doctor told us that by the time of our next visit, he would
    maybe have to report us to State Vehicle Department who would restrict
    us from night time driving. As it was, the best correction he could do
    for me was to 20/40. I get my new glasses which tweak the new lenses to
    be 20/20 tomorrow.


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    Title: Vegetable Fritters (Pakora)
    Categories: Appetizer, Vegetarian, Vegan, Indian
    Yield: 12 servings

    1 c Chickpea flour (besan)
    1/2 c Unbleached all-purpose flour
    1/2 ts Baking soda
    3/4 ts Cream of tartar
    1/4 ts Sea salt
    1 ts Cumin powder
    1 ts Coriander powder
    1 ts Tumeric
    1/2 ts Asafetida (optional)
    1/4 ts Cayenne pepper
    1 1/4 c Cold water
    2 tb Lemon juice
    Oil, for frying
    1 c Sliced potatoes (1/4" thick)
    1 c Cauliflower florets
    1 c Chopped bell pepper

    Blend flours, baking soda, cream of tartar, salt and spices.

    Gradually whisk in water and lemon juice to make a smooth batter the
    consistency of heavy cream. Set aside.

    Heat about 3" oil in a large skillet or deep fryer.

    Dip vegetables in batter to coat. Immerse in hot oil, turning to cook
    evenly, until golden brown, about 5 minutes. Remove with a slotted
    spoon and drain on absorbent paper.

    Cover and place in a warm oven while cooking remaining pakoras.

    Per serving: 186 cal, 5 g prot, 95 mg sod, 25 g carb, 8 g fat, 0 mg
    chol, 21 mg calcium

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  • From Dave Drum@1:229/452 to Dale Shipp on Wednesday, April 17, 2019 11:08:24
    Dale Shipp wrote to Ruth Haffly <=-

    Not really, they know what to do, but I'm not a
    candidate for surgery yet because of my other issues.

    I'm holding off on cataract surgery until the knee is better. The eyes aren't to the point of urgent; I've got some time yet but probably
    before the year is out...............

    For Gail and I, the decision point to have the surgery was when our regular eye doctor told us that by the time of our next visit, he would maybe have to report us to State Vehicle Department who would restrict
    us from night time driving. As it was, the best correction he could do for me was to 20/40. I get my new glasses which tweak the new lenses
    to be 20/20 tomorrow.

    I was worried about cataracts a few weeks ago - so I got my chubby self
    to the ophthalmologist to get checked out. Turns out to not be what I
    feared but "floaters" in my right eye. Dr. Wu assures me that these will
    sink, eventually, to the bottom of the eyeball and out of my field of
    vision. No word if they re-absorb or if they pile up until the encroach
    on my sight. Have to research that on the internet machine .... and sort
    the wheat from the chaff.

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    Categories: Five, I scream, Beverages
    Yield: 1 Servings

    8 oz Root Beer
    Gall of goat *
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    4 oz Scoop vanilla I scream

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    Perhaps that famed trio of witches wouldn't have been
    so crotchety if they'd been stirring up these bubbling
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    inside a larger cauldron. Wearing gloves or oven mitts,
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    for a steamy effect.

    To serve, ladle root beer into mugs filled with scoops
    of gall of "goat" or vanilla ice cream.

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dale Shipp on Wednesday, April 17, 2019 13:50:08
    Hi Dale,

    Not really, they know what to do, but I'm not a
    candidate for surgery yet because of my other issues.

    I'm holding off on cataract surgery until the knee is better. The eyes aren't to the point of urgent; I've got some time yet but probably
    before the year is out...............

    For Gail and I, the decision point to have the surgery was when our regular eye doctor told us that by the time of our next visit, he
    would maybe have to report us to State Vehicle Department who would restrict
    us from night time driving. As it was, the best correction he could
    do for me was to 20/40. I get my new glasses which tweak the new
    lenses to be 20/20 tomorrow.

    When we thought my knee was to be done in March, we started looking into getting the eyes done beforehand. Rescheduling the knee for February
    made us decide to wait until it was doing better; little did we know I'd
    have the side issues. We'll probably resume looking to get the eyes done
    in a few more weeks--gotta be able to see to show y'all some of our
    favorite places in WF.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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