• 195 happy hols + exte

    From MICHAEL LOO@1:123/140 to NANCY BACKUS on Thursday, April 04, 2019 09:00:52
    I am quite thankful not to have to worry
    about starvation on a frequent basis.
    As in, you'd have to be starving to call that a meal...? ;)
    Yeah, pretty much, no offense.
    No offense taken... :) And I'd not likely be trying to serve that to
    you as a meal, given that I know better... (G)

    Given even a smidgen of benevolence!

    I'd not want to have that every meal, to be sure, but it did make a
    viable alternative for once in a while... ;)
    Though last night I made spaghetti agli'olio e
    peperoncini for supper, speaking of not what
    you'd call a meal. Tastes so good that I'd eat
    it until I burst and would in fact be a candidate
    for chosen last meal. Which, as it's not very
    blood-sugar-friendly, might be extra appropriate.
    I trust you had no (lasting) complications from that meal, then.. :)

    Who knows. It might be the straw that breaks
    the camel's back, but that's kind of unlikely.

    I don't buy the grated cheese, actually... shredded or chunk,
    generally... :)
    Chunk really is best.
    No doubt... but as you know, I do tend to take some shortcuts... ;)

    Hate it. Okay, I'm suspicious of that tendency.

    How about gum Arabic?
    Quite possibly... is that the same then as arabic gum, or are they indeed different...?
    Same thing, surely.
    Oh, ok.... :)
    Looked it up, yup.
    Thanks for the lookup... :)

    Peasy.

    We're not the only first-world country.
    Very true... :)
    I'm in favor of countries aspiring to
    first-worldness and don't even have any argument
    with their surpassing us, just so we don't lose
    ground on an absolute scale (which there is some
    danger of, which we must fight).
    Likewise.... and yup....

    Whatever became of respect for education?

    I don't care what the price is people, which just
    cries out "sucker" to people like John Mackey and
    Jeff Bezos as well as a bevy of local tradespeople,
    alternative medicine ducks, and so on. It is true
    that a fresh Whole Foods steak is better than a
    frozen Costco steak, but it's not better than one
    fresh Costco steak, much less two fresh Costco
    steaks and three frozen ones.
    When the quality of the meat is equivalent, I certainly don't mind
    spending less for it... (G) No doubt that pork belly was also
    overpriced, but she had her heart in the right place... ;)

    I promised her I'd show her how to do just as
    well with pork shoulder. Better, in fact, because
    they often don't remove the skin from shoulder.

    Yes we were, but I wasn't sure that was the connection...
    Aaah - if it were a subsidiary of Mondelez or
    something I'd have said so ... I think.
    I tend to prefer not to assume... ;)
    I prefer to be sufficiently explicit without
    being deadly boring explicit.
    Perhaps sometimes it's more something inbetween... at least to the recipient... (G)

    One has to trust that the writer is not
    stretching the thought into irrelevance, so
    there may be relations implied in the text. Some
    of us miss these occasionally, which may reflect
    on either writer or recipient or both. Some of us
    miss these consistently, which calls for a different
    interpretation.

    We'll find some. Ever heard of a dish called Brownies?
    Requires flour, I'm told... ;) Since I stopped baking bread, etc, that tends not to be on hand... Sugar's another thing there's not much of, as not generally used.... :)
    Lora Brody's Bete Noire, revised
    serves 6
    Looks good.... but again, lots of ingredients not usually on hand.. ;) Apparently he'd had it a time or three... ;) He did enjoy it though,
    hadn't he...?

    It's a very good thing to eat.

    True. It's still also a form of hyperbole... ;)
    Hyperbole can be entertaining - funner for some
    of us than superbole.
    True... :)

    The still-hyperbolic World Series is more my speed.

    Steak and kidney pudding
    categories: English, main, offal
    servings: 4 to 8

    2 pt pudding basin
    800 g shin of beef
    300 g ox (beef) kidney
    plain flour to dust
    salt and white pepper
    butter (for cooking and stewing)
    2 onions
    2 bay leaves
    a few sprigs of thyme
    275 g self-raising flour
    120 g suet
    1 ts baking powder

    Remove the grosser outside sinews from the
    beef shin and cut the meat into chunks
    2 cm thick and 3 cm long. Place it in a
    colander and sprinkle over it 1 c flour,
    1 ts salt and some finely milled white
    pepper. Toss together so that the meat is
    well dusted but there is no excess. Heat
    cooking oil and a knob of butter in a
    large frying pan and seal the meat
    without trying to attain a lot of colour.

    Peel and slice the onions and stew them
    in a little butter in a large casserole.
    Add the meat, bay leaves and thyme, cover
    with cold water and bring to a simmer.
    Skim carefully and leave to cook very,
    very gently for 2 hr.

    Cut the kidney, without any connective
    sinew, into slices just under 1 cm thick.
    Toss these very briefly in a little heated
    butter and then add to the beef in the
    casserole. [M says discard the used butter.]
    Bring back to a simmer and then remove from
    the heat and leave to cool.

    Mix the flour, suet and baking powder in a
    bowl with 1 pn salt. Add 150 ml of very
    cold water slowly to the mix, stirring it
    in with the tips of the fingers. Work
    gently, adding up to another 50 ml water
    until you have a pliant, kneadable dough.
    Roll out the pastry on a floured board
    into a circle 3 to 4 mm thick and then
    cut out a quarter segment to later form a
    lid. Butter a pudding basin and then drop
    in the [large segment of the] pastry,
    pushing it well into the corners, with
    the two edges joined together and a small
    amount of pastry overlapping the sides.

    Pack the meat quite tightly into the
    pastry casing, filling it to the top and
    pouring its liquor over, topping up with
    a little cold water if necessary. Brush
    the exposed pastry with a little cold
    water and then roll the remaining pastry
    out into a circle and press it down on
    top. Crimp the edges with the tines of a
    fork and cut away the excess. Cover the
    basin with greaseproof paper or foil,
    tied in place with string. Gently lower
    the basin on to a trivet in a deep pan
    and add just enough boiling water to
    cover the trivet. Put a lid on the pan
    and steam the pudding 4 hr, regularly
    checking that all the water has not
    evaporated.

    Place a plate over the pudding and invert
    it. Let the pudding sit on the plate for
    a moment. Give the base of the basin a
    couple of taps and lift it off. Serve the
    pudding with some buttered greens and a
    pot of English mustard.
    M's note: mushy
    peas are another traditional accompaniment.

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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to MICHAEL LOO on Monday, April 08, 2019 16:19:00
    Quoting Michael Loo to Nancy Backus on 04-04-19 08:00 <=-

    I don't buy the grated cheese, actually... shredded or chunk, generally... :)
    Chunk really is best.
    No doubt... but as you know, I do tend to take some shortcuts... ;)
    Hate it. Okay, I'm suspicious of that tendency.

    Oh, I know... but I don't make any pretensions to being a real cook.. :)

    We're not the only first-world country.
    Very true... :)
    I'm in favor of countries aspiring to
    first-worldness and don't even have any argument
    with their surpassing us, just so we don't lose
    ground on an absolute scale (which there is some
    danger of, which we must fight).
    Likewise.... and yup....
    Whatever became of respect for education?

    Good question...

    When the quality of the meat is equivalent, I certainly don't mind
    spending less for it... (G) No doubt that pork belly was also
    overpriced, but she had her heart in the right place... ;)
    I promised her I'd show her how to do just as
    well with pork shoulder. Better, in fact, because
    they often don't remove the skin from shoulder.

    And have you yet...?

    Yes we were, but I wasn't sure that was the connection...
    Aaah - if it were a subsidiary of Mondelez or
    something I'd have said so ... I think.
    I tend to prefer not to assume... ;)
    I prefer to be sufficiently explicit without
    being deadly boring explicit.
    Perhaps sometimes it's more something inbetween... at least to the recipient... (G)
    One has to trust that the writer is not
    stretching the thought into irrelevance, so
    there may be relations implied in the text. Some
    of us miss these occasionally, which may reflect
    on either writer or recipient or both. Some of us
    miss these consistently, which calls for a different
    interpretation.

    I suppose that if things are consistently being missed, being more
    explicit might be more called for... But, admittedly, sometimes that
    will backfire, too...

    True. It's still also a form of hyperbole... ;)
    Hyperbole can be entertaining - funner for some
    of us than superbole.
    True... :)
    The still-hyperbolic World Series is more my speed.

    And I mostly don't pay much mind to sports of any sort... only what I
    pick up in passing.... ;)

    ttyl neb

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