• What I had for dinner

    From JIM WELLER@1:123/140 to DALE SHIPP on Saturday, March 23, 2019 21:55:00

    Quoting Dale Shipp to Michael Loo <=-

    another old thread we could bring back

    Last night we both worked until 8 PM and were exhausted so we had a
    simple supper of two part cocktails on the rocks followed by
    leftovers.

    First course; martini on the rocks, 2 parts gin, 1 part vermouth, no
    garnish.

    Second course: microwaved leftover curried cream of cauliflower and
    potato soup made earlier in the week.

    Third course: microwaved leftover Tex-Mex "Spanish" rice with hot
    sauce.

    Fourth Course: cold leftover roast leg of lamb with Dijon mustard on
    slightly stale toasted bread.

    Fifth Course: chocolate ice cream with sprinkled coconut spooned
    right from the carton as we had run out of clean bowls and the
    energy to do dishes.

    Not every meal is a carefully planned gourmet adventure.

    Cheers

    Jim

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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Jim Weller on Monday, March 25, 2019 02:20:02
    On 03-23-19 20:55, Jim Weller <=-
    spoke to Dale Shipp about What I had for dinner <=-

    Last night we both worked until 8 PM and were exhausted so we had a
    simple supper of two part cocktails on the rocks followed by
    leftovers.

    We often do not get around to dinner until 8 pm :-}}

    Second course: microwaved leftover curried cream of cauliflower and
    potato soup made earlier in the week.

    Sounds decent.

    Third course: microwaved leftover Tex-Mex "Spanish" rice with hot
    sauce.

    Also decent, but why not part of the soup course? We often have soup
    and <other stuff> as one meal.

    Fourth Course: cold leftover roast leg of lamb with Dijon mustard on slightly stale toasted bread.

    And that is where you leave me cold:-}} As I have said before, neither
    of us is all that fond of lamb. I sometimes have lamb curry from an
    Indian buffet line -- and in all honesty could not tell it from beef or
    goat curry.

    The only time I have ever had leg of lamb was when I was visiting in
    England and had dinner with the man who had been my boss when I lived
    there. I ate it politely, but to tell the truth, mostly what I tasted
    was mint and maybe rosemary.

    Fifth Course: chocolate ice cream with sprinkled coconut spooned
    right from the carton as we had run out of clean bowls and the
    energy to do dishes.

    Back to sounds good. Except that we never buy ice cream in cartons
    anymore. We ate it so rarely that after first serving, it turned to
    something non pleasant when we went for a second serving two weeks
    later. Instead, we buy various single serving ice cream bars, e.g.
    Klondike.

    Not every meal is a carefully planned gourmet adventure.

    Very few are, especially with just the two of us.

    Tonight I had the last of that chicken casserole and Gail had a salami
    and swiss cheese sandwich on pumpernickle. Simple, and we were both
    filled.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

    Title: NICHOLAS' LAMB DOLMADES
    Categories: Appetizers
    Yield: 120 Servings

    1 c Raw rice
    2 c Chicken broth
    2 lb Ground lamb or beef
    3 md Onions; chopped fine
    14 1/2 oz Peeled chopped tomatoes
    2 c Parsley, finley chopped
    1 1/2 c Butter or margarine (12 tbp.
    1/2 ts Pepper
    3 Jars Grape leafs (8oz.)
    1 Lemon (juice only)
    1 cn Chicken broth (48 oz.)
    1 1/2 ts Tomato paste

    Calories per serving: 58 Fat grams per serving: 2.5 Approx. Cook
    Time:1 hr.

    The Filling:

    1. Cook the rice in 2 cups of the chicken broth.

    2. Melt the butter in a very large frying pan,and saute the onion in
    the butter until soft & translucent,not browned.

    3. Combine the cooked rice,raw ground lamb or beef,sauteed onions
    (and the butter they were sauteed in),canned tomatos & juice,chopped
    parsley & tomato paste. Mix well. Kneading with your hands works best.

    ASSEMBLY and COOKING:

    1. Carefully remove the grape leafs from the jar. Unfold and place in
    a pot large enough to hold them flat. add 3 jars of water and place
    pot on stove over low heat for 10 minutes. Remove immediately from
    heat,discard,and run cold water over to stop cooking.

    2. Use about a Teaspoon of rice filling to stuff each grape
    leaf(amount will vary depending on size of leaf.) Stuff & roll &
    arrange in a pot in a circle.

    3. Pour the remaining stock over the dolmades in the pot(use a little
    more if needed; the dolmes should be just covered with the liquid.

    4. Get 2 or 3 plates that are just a little smaller in size than the
    pot holding the dolmes. Invert the plates over the dolmes;this
    weights them down so they will not fall apart while cooking.

    5. Bring to simmer &simmer gently over low heat for one hour.

    6. Close to the end of the hour,add the juice of the second lemon to
    the pot.

    7. Allow the cooked dolmes to cool slightly,then drain & refrigerate
    until ready to serve.

    NOTE: The servings amount is for how many you can make!

    FROM: JOHN MORA (GBDP78B)

    MMMMM


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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Jim Weller on Monday, March 25, 2019 19:22:18
    JIM WELLER wrote to DALE SHIPP <=-

    Not every meal is a carefully planned gourmet adventure.

    Don't laugh but sometimes a peanut butter sandwich is great for dinner
    for me. I am hoping once my life settles down (again) and I get into my
    own place that I can start batch cooking for nights that I just don't
    feel like any prep at all. I am thankful for toaster and microwave
    ovens. :D

    Later,
    Sean

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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Dale Shipp on Monday, March 25, 2019 19:24:20
    Dale Shipp wrote to Jim Weller <=-

    We often do not get around to dinner until 8 pm :-}}

    By not eating after 7:30 PM, I've lost 20 pounds in about two months (I
    am now at 200 pounds and am trying to get to 185). I know you and Gale
    have a different "operating" schedule that I do but I thought I'd
    mention that. Why? I refuse to take part in any activity that has
    "die" in it (a la "diet). ;)

    Later,
    Sean

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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to JIM WELLER on Thursday, March 28, 2019 17:38:00
    Quoting Jim Weller to Dale Shipp on 03-23-19 20:55 <=-

    Last night we both worked until 8 PM and were exhausted so we had a
    simple supper of two part cocktails on the rocks followed by
    leftovers.

    Nothing wrong with leftovers, just call them planovers... ;)

    First course; martini on the rocks, 2 parts gin, 1 part vermouth, no garnish.
    Second course: microwaved leftover curried cream of cauliflower and
    potato soup made earlier in the week.
    Third course: microwaved leftover Tex-Mex "Spanish" rice with hot
    sauce.
    Fourth Course: cold leftover roast leg of lamb with Dijon mustard on slightly stale toasted bread.

    Even if leftover, they still sound reasonably exotic... ;)

    Fifth Course: chocolate ice cream with sprinkled coconut spooned
    right from the carton as we had run out of clean bowls and the
    energy to do dishes.

    Common procedure around here... after all, it's just the two of us... :)

    Not every meal is a carefully planned gourmet adventure.

    Yours sounds like a serendipitous gourmet adventure, actually... :)

    Night before last, we had a bit of an adventure meal, trying out a
    couple of fairly new Wegmans frozen offerings... I had digital coupons
    for each of them, so had sprung for them... First was a bagged meal,
    General Tso's Shrimp: noodles with shrimp, red bell pepper, sugar snap
    peas, in a General Tso's sauce... It was billed as two peppers out of
    three, but didn't seem to have all that much heat... the bag said it was
    a product of France, which might explain it... ;) The second was the
    frozen iteration of a product I'd had before in the Market Cafe', called
    "Happy Rice"... a mix of brown rice, red rice, a variety of diced
    veggies (including broccoli, yellow and green squash, pumpkin, and I
    think maybe more), and seeds and nuts (slivered almonds, pistachios,
    squash seeds, sunflower seeds. maybe more), with a sauce mixed in... The
    market version also has bits of scrambled egg in it but this did not....
    Since the first seemed just a bit scant on the shrimp, I added some
    shrimp out of the freezer to the rice dish, to augment the meal...

    Verdict... I might buy again.... :)

    ttyl neb

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  • From JIM WELLER@1:123/140 to DALE SHIPP on Thursday, March 28, 2019 22:51:00

    Quoting Dale Shipp to Jim Weller <=-

    cold leftover roast leg of lamb

    neither of us is all that fond of lamb.

    We like young lamb that's not too muttony. And as it is more
    expensive than beef, it's a rare treat.

    Not every meal is a carefully planned gourmet adventure.

    Very few are, especially with just the two of us.

    We tend to do a lot of bulk cooking and baking on Sunday so we can
    have quick meals on workdays.

    A whole leg goes a long way between just two people. We ended up
    having that lamb two more times:

    Last Sat: a potato, onion and lamb hash with lamb and beef gravy on
    toast

    This Mon: Scotch Broth with both barley and split green peas

    Last of the dutch series:

    MMMMM-----Meal-Master - formatted by MMCONV 2.10

    Title: Lentil Soup With Meatballs - Linzensoep
    Categories: Dutch, Soups, Bacon, Groundmeat, Beef
    Servings: 10

    500 g lentils
    100 g bacon or salted pork
    2 sl whole wheat bread
    2 sl white bread
    100 ml milk
    200 g lean ground beef
    1 sm leek
    2 lg onions
    6 carrots
    3 potatoes
    2 parsley with roots
    salt, pepper and nutmeg
    bread crumbs
    20 g margarine
    1 bay leaf
    mace
    1/2 chili pepper

    Rinse the lentils and wash them thoroughly. Put the bay leaf, chili
    pepper and mace in a piece of linen cloth and tie it shut for a
    bouquet garni. Cube the bacon/pork and fry it slowly in a large pan.
    Cube the whole wheat bread, slice the carrots and leek into thin
    rings, peel and dice the potatoes. Cut off, but keep the top of the
    parsley, wash the roots thoroughly and add bread, carrots, potatoes
    and parsley roots to the frying bacon.

    Saute the vegetables with the bacon and add the lentils and 1200 ml
    salted water. Drop in the bouquet garni and cook the mix for 1 hour.
    Cut off the crusts of the white bread and soak the remainder in
    milk. Squeeze out the milk and mix the bread through the ground
    beef, together with some salt, pepper and nutmeg. Divide the ground
    beef into quarter-sized balls and roll those through the (fine)
    bread crumbs. In a frying pan, heat the margarine and fry the ground
    beef balls. Take them out and drain them on absorbent paper. Finely
    chop the parsley.

    From: Www.Godutch.Com

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    Cheers

    Jim


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  • From JIM WELLER@1:123/140 to SEAN DENNIS on Friday, March 29, 2019 20:57:00

    Quoting Sean Dennis to Jim Weller <=-

    Not every meal is a carefully planned gourmet adventure.

    Don't laugh but sometimes a peanut butter sandwich is great for
    dinner for me.

    I've done that too on occasion. Sometimes peanut butter, sometimes
    something fancier but still just a sandwich. Twice this week office
    lunches have been just quick sandwiches at my desk:

    Sliced tomatoes on a boughten olive and rosemary baguette with a
    homemade sandwich spread (sour cream, mayo, basil, lemon juice,
    cayenne and white pepper, tomato sauce, chopped onion and dill
    pickles, almost a Thousand Island dressing.)

    Pillers German salami on homemade rye from the freezer with Dijon
    mustard. The salami was hard cured, air dried and beechwood smoked
    so it could last virtually forever at room temperature but it was
    half price at the supermarket because it was close to its so called
    "best before" date. How silly of them! I bought four chubs worth.

    I am hoping once my life settles down (again) and I get into
    my own place that I can start batch cooking for nights that I just
    don't feel like any prep at all.

    As I have mentioned recently, I try to batch cook and bake most
    Sundays.

    I am thankful for toaster and microwave ovens.

    They are both very useful devices.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Lithuanian Rye Bread
    Categories: Lithuanian, Breads
    Yield: 2 large loaves

    12 c Rye flour
    3 tb Sugar
    50 g (2 oz) fresh yeast
    1 l (1 qt) whey or butter milk
    2 tx salt
    1/2 c beer
    1/2 caraway seed

    Heat whey (butter milk or water) to 95F/30-35C, add yeast blended
    with sugar and let proof for 15 minutes. Add half of the flour, mix
    well, cover and let rise for 1 hour. Then add remaining flour,
    caraway seed, salt and knead until dough is not sticky. Cover dough,
    set in warm spot and let rise for about an hour. Wet hands and form
    2 oblong loaves, place in leaf lined baking pans and set in warm
    spot for another rising. Before baking, paint tops with beer or
    water. Bake in preheated oven at 375F/190C, for about 2 hours. When
    bread is done paint tops again with water and cover with linen cloth
    until cooled. This will make a soft crust.

    Lithuanian National Cultural Center
    From: http://www.lnkc.lt
    Compiled by Birute Imbrasiene
    Translated by Giedre Ambrozaitiene

    MMMMM

    Cheers

    Jim


    ... I got a job at a bakery because I kneaded dough.

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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to JIM WELLER on Tuesday, April 02, 2019 12:55:00
    Quoting Jim Weller to Nancy Backus on 03-30-19 19:47 <=-

    Nothing wrong with leftovers, just call them planovers... ;)

    They generally are planned.

    As are ours... :) Last night we had the rest of our corned beef,
    cabbage, carrots and little red potatoes from St Pat's weekend...
    Richard likes some space between having the same thing again... since it
    only needed nuking to rewarm, it was an easy meal to prepare... :)

    Fifth Course: chocolate ice cream with sprinkled coconut spooned
    right from the carton as we had run out of clean bowls and the
    energy to do dishes.
    Common procedure around here... after all, it's just the two of us

    My grandkids got a kick out of me putting a 4 litre pail of ice
    cream on the table that had had maybe one cup removed, and giving
    them a bunch of toppings and spoons and telling them to make a
    giant sundae. But when all was said and done they didn't eat any
    more than they would have with individual bowls and parental portion control.

    How much was left in the pail for later....? Or did they finish it
    off...? :)

    Lithuanians eat a lot of beets and some of their desserts seem to be pretty dire!

    That did look a bit dire, to be honest... ;)

    ttyl neb

    ... Sadly, the world will always have more bad restaurants than good.

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  • From JIM WELLER@1:123/140 to NANCY BACKUS on Saturday, April 06, 2019 22:08:00
    Quoting Nancy Backus to Jim Weller <=-

    03-30-19
    Last night we had the rest of our corned beef,
    cabbage, carrots and little red potatoes from St Pat's

    I lovely combination and one that is still good the second time
    around.

    Let's see, in recent days we've had ...

    Monday: using up leftovers, made a hearty sparerib and bean soup
    with diced potatoes etc.

    Tues: We had pork liver. I combined three liver recipes into one
    dish and was pleased. First, I slowly cooked a batch of sliced
    onions in butter with a pinch each of salt and sugar until they were
    nicely caramelized. That took an hour. Then I gently fried the liver
    seasoned with salt, pepper, my homemade pork spice mixture and just
    a hint of my Vietnamese 5 spice mixture. And finally I made a pan
    sauce from the drippings, water and cornstarch flavoured with a
    mixture of soy sauce, prepared mustard and ketchup (a favourite of
    mine going back for decades),

    Wed: bought leeks, peppers (green bell and yellow Caribe) and some
    mushrooms. So I made a leek and potato chowder with bacon and pork
    spice for a first course and fried up the mushrooms with ground
    fenugreek seed, salt and garlic powder for a vegetarian second
    course.

    Thursday: I ran some leftover liver through a meat grinder and made
    a sandwich spread of with mayo and mustard, chopped onion and celery
    and diced hard boiled eggs. We made open faced sandwiches on toasted
    (American style) pumpernickel.

    Fri: Another bean soup, pureed instead of chunky this time. More
    liver spread on toast.

    Today I'm cooking ahead again for next week: so far, we've got a
    roast chicken, black beans, rice, and a corn and tomato dish with
    sauteed leeks and Caribe peppers. These base ingredients can be
    combined in a number of different ways. Tomorrow will be baking day.

    Lithuanians eat a lot of beets and some of their desserts seem to
    be pretty dire!

    That did look a bit dire, to be honest... ;)

    Some of their dishes look hearty but delicious, the way German and
    Polish food can be, but they appear to rely heavily upon carp and
    herring, sour milk and cream, rye, barley and buckwheat, porridge,
    gruel and puddings, root vegetables especially beets, dried beans
    and potatoes, with a minimum of spices and herbs. That all speaks
    to their climate, low income (back during the Soviet era) and lack
    of imports.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Lithuanian Herring in Sour Cream
    Categories: Lithuanian, Fish, Dairy
    Yield: 3 servings

    3 Whole herring or
    6 Herring fillets
    1 c Sour cream
    1 Onion, finely chopped
    Scallions or chives, finely
    Chopped
    Parsley sprigs
    1 Hard boiled egg, finely
    Chopped

    If using whole, salted herring, soak in cold water, skin and bone.
    Cut herring into bite size pieces and cover with sour cream.
    Sprinkle with onion, scallions or chives. Garnish with parsley and
    chopped egg.

    This is eaten as a snack or a light meal with hot, cooked potatoes
    in their skins/jackets.

    Lithuanian National Cultural Center
    From: http://www.lnkc.lt
    Compiled by Birute Imbrasiene
    Translated by Giedre Ambrozaitiene

    MMMMM

    Cheers

    Jim


    ... Bread from the supermarket isn't really bread at all.

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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to JIM WELLER on Monday, April 08, 2019 20:48:00
    Quoting Jim Weller to Nancy Backus on 04-06-19 21:08 <=-

    03-30-19
    Last night we had the rest of our corned beef,
    cabbage, carrots and little red potatoes from St Pat's

    A lovely combination and one that is still good the second time
    around.

    In fact, it usually is even better the second time around, in our
    experience... ;)

    Let's see, in recent days we've had ...
    Monday: using up leftovers, made a hearty sparerib and bean soup
    with diced potatoes etc.

    Sounds good... :)

    Tues: We had pork liver. I combined three liver recipes into one
    dish and was pleased. First, I slowly cooked a batch of sliced
    onions in butter with a pinch each of salt and sugar until they were nicely caramelized. That took an hour. Then I gently fried the liver seasoned with salt, pepper, my homemade pork spice mixture and just
    a hint of my Vietnamese 5 spice mixture. And finally I made a pan
    sauce from the drippings, water and cornstarch flavoured with a
    mixture of soy sauce, prepared mustard and ketchup (a favourite of
    mine going back for decades),

    More effort than I'd likely expend... but sounds pretty good, too...
    does pork liver need to be cooked longer than beef...? I like my beef
    liver barely cooked....

    Wed: bought leeks, peppers (green bell and yellow Caribe) and some mushrooms. So I made a leek and potato chowder with bacon and pork
    spice for a first course and fried up the mushrooms with ground
    fenugreek seed, salt and garlic powder for a vegetarian second
    course.

    Nice. :)

    Thursday: I ran some leftover liver through a meat grinder and made
    a sandwich spread of with mayo and mustard, chopped onion and celery
    and diced hard boiled eggs. We made open faced sandwiches on toasted (American style) pumpernickel.
    Fri: Another bean soup, pureed instead of chunky this time. More
    liver spread on toast.

    Fairly simple, but elegant.... :)

    Today I'm cooking ahead again for next week: so far, we've got a
    roast chicken, black beans, rice, and a corn and tomato dish with
    sauteed leeks and Caribe peppers. These base ingredients can be
    combined in a number of different ways. Tomorrow will be baking day.

    And what did you bake...?

    Lithuanians eat a lot of beets and some of their desserts seem to
    be pretty dire!
    That did look a bit dire, to be honest... ;)

    Some of their dishes look hearty but delicious, the way German and
    Polish food can be, but they appear to rely heavily upon carp and
    herring, sour milk and cream, rye, barley and buckwheat, porridge,
    gruel and puddings, root vegetables especially beets, dried beans
    and potatoes, with a minimum of spices and herbs. That all speaks
    to their climate, low income (back during the Soviet era) and lack
    of imports.

    I can see how that would be... makes sense to use what you have... :)

    ttyl neb

    ... I am not aging, I am marinating.

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  • From JIM WELLER@1:123/140 to NANCY BACKUS on Wednesday, April 10, 2019 22:01:00


    Quoting Nancy Backus to Jim Weller <=-

    More effort than I'd likely expend... but sounds pretty good, too...

    First, I slowly cooked a batch of sliced onions in butter with
    a pinch each of salt and sugar until they were nicely
    caramelized. That took an hour.

    That takes no effort at all. Just set the burner on low and walk
    away until the aroma draws you back into the kitchen. It can be
    made ahead in large batches and refrigerated too.

    JW Then I gently fried the liver
    seasoned with salt, pepper, my homemade pork spice mixture and just
    a hint of my Vietnamese 5 spice mixture.

    And that takes just a few minutes. The premixed spices were done up
    in seconds and bottled several weeks ago.

    And finally I made a pan
    sauce from the drippings, water and cornstarch flavoured with a
    mixture of soy sauce, prepared mustard and ketchup

    And that is just squirt, squirt, stir, stir.

    does pork liver need to be cooked longer than beef...? I like my beef liver barely cooked....

    Trichinosis hasn't been a threat for decades now that the pork
    industry has cleaned up its act but out of habit I prefer my pork
    liver done to at least medium well with just a hint of pink in the
    centre. But I cook it slowly on moderate heat so that it doesn't dry
    out.

    Part of the reason for running the leftovers through the grinder and
    adding mayo was I accidentally overcooked it a bit and it was dry.

    Tomorrow will be baking day.

    And what did you bake...?

    On Sunday I made a beef and pork meatloaf, a cherry pie and two
    loaves of 50% whole wheat bread. So over the two days I did 90% of
    the cooking for the work week. In fact here we are Thursday night
    and I had the last of the liver paste for lunch at work and now I'm
    munching on the last of the meat on the chicken carcass while
    Roslind is having meatloaf sandwiches.

    they appear to rely heavily upon carp and
    herring, sour milk and cream, rye, barley and buckwheat, porridge,
    gruel and puddings, root vegetables especially beets, dried beans
    and potatoes, with a minimum of spices and herbs. That all speaks
    to their climate, low income (back during the Soviet era) and lack
    of imports.

    I can see how that would be ... makes sense to use what you
    have... :)

    They also save and use both fermented beet juice and sauerkraut juice
    to marinate tough cuts of meat and flavour other dishes.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Lithuanian Beets with Herring
    Categories: Lithuanian, Vegetables, Fish
    Yield: 4 servings

    2 Cooked beets, peeled and
    Coarsely grated
    2 Onions, finely chopped
    1 c Sauerkraut juice
    1/2 kg (1 lb) smoked herring,
    Skinned and boned
    1/2 ts Sugar

    Cover grated beets with sauerkraut juice, sugar and onions. Cut
    smoked herring into small pieces and mix with beats. Blend well.
    This salad is served with black bread, fried in oil.

    Lithuanian National Cultural Center
    From: http://www.lnkc.lt
    Compiled by Birute Imbrasiene
    Translated by Giedre Ambrozaitiene

    MMMMM

    Cheers

    Jim

    ... I tasted beet ice cream once and it nauseated me to the core.

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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to JIM WELLER on Wednesday, April 17, 2019 12:38:00
    Quoting Jim Weller to Nancy Backus on 04-10-19 22:01 <=-

    More effort than I'd likely expend... but sounds pretty good, too...
    First, I slowly cooked a batch of sliced onions in butter with
    a pinch each of salt and sugar until they were nicely
    caramelized. That took an hour.

    That takes no effort at all. Just set the burner on low and walk
    away until the aroma draws you back into the kitchen. It can be
    made ahead in large batches and refrigerated too.

    Do you start by heating the pan, or just with it on low to begin
    with...? And do you put the butter and onions in at the same time
    then...?

    Then I gently fried the liver
    seasoned with salt, pepper, my homemade pork spice mixture and just
    a hint of my Vietnamese 5 spice mixture.

    And that takes just a few minutes. The premixed spices were done up
    in seconds and bottled several weeks ago.

    You just would have had to have the spices on hand to make up your
    mixes.... Would you be frying the liver in the onion butter...?

    And finally I made a pan
    sauce from the drippings, water and cornstarch flavoured with a
    mixture of soy sauce, prepared mustard and ketchup

    And that is just squirt, squirt, stir, stir.

    Kinda. :)

    does pork liver need to be cooked longer than beef...? I like my beef
    liver barely cooked....

    Trichinosis hasn't been a threat for decades now that the pork
    industry has cleaned up its act but out of habit I prefer my pork
    liver done to at least medium well with just a hint of pink in the
    centre. But I cook it slowly on moderate heat so that it doesn't dry
    out.

    I think I'd probably take my chances on the rare, in that case... I'd be
    afraid that it would dry out more than I like...

    Part of the reason for running the leftovers through the grinder and adding mayo was I accidentally overcooked it a bit and it was dry.

    Ah... proving my point... (G)

    Tomorrow will be baking day.
    And what did you bake...?

    On Sunday I made a beef and pork meatloaf, a cherry pie and two
    loaves of 50% whole wheat bread. So over the two days I did 90% of
    the cooking for the work week. In fact here we are Thursday night
    and I had the last of the liver paste for lunch at work and now I'm munching on the last of the meat on the chicken carcass while
    Roslind is having meatloaf sandwiches.

    Nice. And that worked out well... :)

    they appear to rely heavily upon carp and herring, sour milk and
    cream, rye, barley and buckwheat, porridge, gruel and puddings,
    root vegetables especially beets, dried beans and potatoes, with a
    minimum of spices and herbs. That all speaks to their climate, low
    income (back during the Soviet era) and lack of imports.
    I can see how that would be ... makes sense to use what you
    have... :)

    They also save and use both fermented beet juice and sauerkraut juice
    to marinate tough cuts of meat and flavour other dishes.

    Using things economically.... But I think I'd get tired of sauerkraut
    and beets had I them too often.... :)

    ttyl neb

    ... ...I'll just steal this tagline. Oops! <BEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEPBEEP>

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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to JIM WELLER on Wednesday, April 17, 2019 12:53:00
    Quoting Jim Weller to Nancy Backus on 04-10-19 22:02 <=-

    a new Nepali place.
    dhido

    That sounds a bit like African fufu or Lithuanian porridge! I tried
    making porridge last weekend from flour for the first time instead
    of coarser grains. I was not impressed. I also ate fufu at lot back
    in my college days when I had Nigerian roommates for one semester
    but I never learned to like it.

    Never had either fufu or Lithuanian porridge... dhido wasn't bad...
    especially when dipped into the various things available... :) I think
    when we go as our 4th Sunday group there that we'll make sure we have
    that on the table for people to try... I don't think I'd want to eat it
    every day all the time, but I liked it ok.. :)

    We have a brand new Somalian restaurant
    I just realized I have tons of Ethiopian recipes and not a single
    Somalian one to offer. I must remedy that.
    I wonder just how different they'd be from each other...?

    I'm expecting a lot of similarities. We will find out in due course
    when I do the research but I have a few other projects lined up
    first.

    I'll watch for them when you get to it... :)

    I'm getting tired of posting nasty Lithuanian recipes. From here on
    in I'm going to concentrate on just the good stuff. I eliminated all references to herring, potatoes, beets, and sauerkraut and there
    aren't that many recipes left!

    Ah, then you be finished all that much quicker... (G)

    ttyl neb

    ... Climate is what we expect, weather is what we get.

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  • From JIM WELLER@1:123/140 to NANCY BACKUS on Thursday, April 18, 2019 23:03:00

    Quoting Nancy Backus to Jim Weller <=-

    Re: liver and onions

    I slowly cooked a batch of sliced onions in butter with
    a pinch each of salt and sugar until they were nicely
    caramelized. That took an hour.

    That takes no effort at all. Just set the burner on low and walk
    away until the aroma draws you back into the kitchen. It can be
    made ahead in large batches and refrigerated too.

    Do you start by heating the pan, or just with it on low to begin
    with...? And do you put the butter and onions in at the same time then...?

    I usually start by adding the butter and heating the pan on medium
    until it is foaming, add the onion and after a minute or two
    reducing the heat.


    Cheers

    Jim


    ... Onion rings to bring them all and in the oil fry them.

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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to JIM WELLER on Sunday, April 21, 2019 19:03:00
    Quoting Jim Weller to Nancy Backus on 04-18-19 23:03 <=-

    Re: liver and onions
    I slowly cooked a batch of sliced onions in butter with
    a pinch each of salt and sugar until they were nicely
    caramelized. That took an hour.
    That takes no effort at all. Just set the burner on low and walk
    away until the aroma draws you back into the kitchen. It can be
    made ahead in large batches and refrigerated too.
    Do you start by heating the pan, or just with it on low to begin
    with...? And do you put the butter and onions in at the same time
    then...?

    I usually start by adding the butter and heating the pan on medium
    until it is foaming, add the onion and after a minute or two
    reducing the heat.

    Ah, ok... just making sure... that's pretty much how I'd probably have
    tried doing them, but there are lots of techniques I don't know, so
    wanted to check... :)

    ttyl neb

    ... "All men are ignorant, just in different fields" - Einstein

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