• 115 more Irisher I read fishier

    From MICHAEL LOO@1:123/140 to JIM WELLER on Wednesday, March 20, 2019 00:59:46
    Irish-Chinese and invented by me just this morning.
    Bacon, Potato and Cabbage Stir Fry
    Looks pretty good, but I'd double the bacon;
    liquid smoke
    I would have preferred to double the bacon and skip the liquid smoke
    but we were running low on bacon.

    Low on bacon. You should have been willing to
    brave the elements and hack your way through
    mountains of ice to get to bacon.

    Chinese potato stir-fry
    Interesting.

    Kind of; actually, the Chinese Chinese tend to think
    potatoes more interesting than I do.

    redhousespice.com
    I took a quick peek; I'll be back there when time permits. Unless
    you post everything she has.

    She's interesting and useful, but I'm not following
    her in a breathless fanboy way.

    Title: Lithuanian Bacon Sauce for Potatoes
    Yield: 4 servings
    300 g (9 oz) bacon, cut into
    Lithuanian National Cultural Center

    Doesn't look particularly nation-specific to me,
    except for the thickness.

    +

    Fresh water fish (and salmon which spend part of their lives in
    fresh water) are prone to more worm infections than salt water fish
    and are higher risk. As well, with the exception of walleye, they
    don't have as good a taste or texture. I've made raw, never frozen,
    walleye sashimi but I slice the fillets very thinly and examine them
    closely by "candling" them.

    All fish are prone to worms, including the hallowed
    tuna and halibut. My preference is for large blocky
    sashimi, which would imply requiring extreme care in
    processing or the vigorous freezing suggested by the
    health authorities.

    Either way, neither Gail nor I are fond of eating raw fish.
    I, OTOH, do like sushi, sashimi, ceviche, cold smoked and salted,
    dried fish.

    I like sashimi best, then cold smoked, hot smoked, seviche,
    sushi, pickled, and salted dried, pretty much in that order,
    though there are exceptions and occasional leapfroggings.
    Mostly it's +fish -starch -vinegar.

    ... Better than giant shrimp artificially fattened with steroids.

    Just don't eat 'em raw, same with giant shrimp artificially
    fattened with sewage.

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    Title: Thai Tomyum Gung (Shrimp) / Gai (Chicken)
    Categories: Thai, Poultry, Fish/sea
    Yield: 1 servings

    2 -to Lemon juice & fish
    sauce
    3 Stalks of lemon grass 2 -to
    2 lb Tiger shrimps 3 sm Red/green chili peppers
    -OR- boneless chicken meat 1 cn Straw mushrooms
    5 -to 1 1/2 tb Thai chili paste *
    6 Lime leaves (kaffir) Cilantro/parsley

    * with soya beans oil (dark redish-brown color), which comes in a jar
    that
    can be bought at any Thai grocery

    Instructions: ============= Boil some water (half of the pot) in a 1.5qt
    sauce pan. Put in lemon grass, and the chili paste. Put in the shrimps
    and
    the mushrooms. Let it boil for 10 minutes. Put in the "lime" leaves and
    sliced chili peppers (1 min). It's done!!

    Now you can mix it in a serving bowl with some lemon juice and fish
    sauce.
    Garnish with cilantro and serve hot with Thai Jasmine rice.

    From: nat@megatek.com

    M's notes: maybe a misprint for 1/2 lb. I'd use peeled deveined
    shrimp and their rinsed shells (tied up in a cheesecloth with the
    lemongrass and the lime leaves). Mushrooms should be drained.
    2 to 4 servings?

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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Michael Loo on Thursday, March 21, 2019 03:13:06
    On 03-19-19 23:59, Michael Loo <=-
    spoke to Jim Weller about 115 more Irisher I read f <=-

    Either way, neither Gail nor I are fond of eating raw fish.
    I, OTOH, do like sushi, sashimi, ceviche, cold smoked and salted,
    dried fish.

    Only the first two of those are what I would consider to be raw.
    Ceviche is cooked, sort of, by the citric juices. The others are
    processed in a manner that should take care of any pathegens.

    ... Better than giant shrimp artificially fattened with steroids.

    Just don't eat 'em raw, same with giant shrimp artificially
    fattened with sewage.

    We used to buy Tiger Prawns until we found out how they were often
    farm fed in various unsanitary ways. Now we only get wild caught Gulf
    shrimp from Wegmans.

    This recipe contains your other favorite vegetable :-}}

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    Title: BILLERICA HAYSTACKS
    Categories: Chili, Appetizers, Snacks
    Yield: 1 Servings

    1 Onion, chopped
    1 Bell pepper, chopped
    3 T Vegetable oil
    2 3 cloves garlic, minced
    1 lb Ground beef chuck
    1 lb Ground pork
    3 4 tbsp. chili powder
    1 T Ground cumin
    1 (28 oz.) can tomatoes,
    -chopped, with juice
    1 c Canned beef broth
    1 Bay leaf
    3/4 t Cayenne
    1 t Tabasco
    1/2 t Oregano
    1/2 t Salt
    1/4 t Freshly ground pepper
    1 oz Grated semi-sweet chocolate
    -Pinch of cinnamon
    -HAYSTACKS:
    1 Bag Fritos
    Chopped mild onion
    Chopped green, red or
    -yellow bell pepper
    Chopped ripe tomato
    Chopped cabbage or lettuce
    Chopped canned jalapenos
    Scallions
    Grated sharp cheddar
    -cheese
    Sliced black or green
    -olives
    Sour cream

    In a kettle cook the onion and bell pepper until softened, about 4
    minutes. Add the garlic and cook another minute. In a large skillet
    brown the meat over high heat and transfer when done to the kettle.
    Add chili powder and cumin and cook the mixture, stirring, for about
    a minute. Add tomatoes, broth, bay leaf, cayenne, Tabasco, oregano,
    salt and pepper and bring to a boil. Lower heat and allow to simmer
    slowly for 2 hours. Or, put chili into slow cooker for several hours.
    Stir in the chocolate and cinnamon and adjust seasonings. Place
    bowls of each of the above accompaniments on the table so diners can
    prepare their own Haystacks. A layer of Fritos is placed on the plate
    or bowl first; then some chili, and whichever accompaniments appeal
    to the diner. May be topped with sour cream.

    Recipe posted by: Barry Weinstein

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  • From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Dale Shipp on Thursday, March 21, 2019 06:47:04
    Dale Shipp wrote to Michael Loo <=-

    Only the first two of those are what I would consider to be raw.
    Ceviche is cooked, sort of, by the citric juices. The others are processed in a manner that should take care of any pathegens.

    ... Better than giant shrimp artificially fattened with steroids.

    Just don't eat 'em raw, same with giant shrimp artificially
    fattened with sewage.

    We used to buy Tiger Prawns until we found out how they were often
    farm fed in various unsanitary ways. Now we only get wild caught Gulf shrimp from Wegmans.

    What's your stance on tilapia?

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    Title: Tilapia Veracruz
    Categories: Seafood, Herbs, Chilies, Rice, Vegetables
    Yield: 4 Servings

    2 tb Olive oil
    2 md Red bell peppers; cored,
    - sliced in strips
    1 md Onion; peeled, sliced
    14 1/2 oz Can Red Gold diced tomatoes
    - w/chilies
    1/2 ts Dried oregano
    1/2 ts Hot pepper sauce
    1 1/2 lb Tilapia filets; 4 pieces *
    1/2 ts (ea) salt & pepper
    2 c Hot, cooked rice

    Set oven @ 350+XF/175+XC. Coat a 13" x 9" x 2" baking dish
    with nonstick cooking spray. Heat oil in a large skillet
    over medium heat. Add peppers and onion; cook 4 minutes.
    Add tomatoes and oregano; cook 3 minutes. Stir in hot
    sauce.

    Place fish in prepared dish. Top with pepper mixture.
    Season with salt and pepper.

    Bake @ 350+XF/175+XC for 25 minutes, until fish flakes
    easily with a fork. Spoon fish and pepper mixture onto
    plates; serve with rice.

    * I substituted grouper, as I know how farmed tilapia is
    raised and I don't care to eat it. *EVER* Besides,
    grouper is a flavourful fish and is available if I ask
    at Hy-Vee's service seafood counter or at my local
    (Robert's Seafood) fish monger. Other substitutes that
    my mental taster tells me would work well here are red
    snapper (flakier) or monkfish (a bit harder to find here
    in the Great American Outback 800 or more miles from any
    salt water.

    I used Cholula for the hot sauce and added 1 green serrano
    (not noted in ingredients list) seeded and minced to the
    tomatoes w/chilies. - UDD

    Better Homes & Gardens | June 2012

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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Dave Drum on Friday, March 22, 2019 02:04:00
    On 03-21-19 05:47, Dave Drum <=-
    spoke to Dale Shipp about Shrimp <=-

    We used to buy Tiger Prawns until we found out how they were often
    farm fed in various unsanitary ways. Now we only get wild caught Gulf shrimp from Wegmans.

    What's your stance on tilapia?

    The same as it is on Tiger Prawns from Thailand or Cambodia. Until I
    can see that it is either wild caught (not much chance of that I
    believe) or is raised under sanitary conditions, I won't buy it nor eat
    it.


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    Title: SCOTCH BONNET SALSA
    Categories: Dips, Appetizers
    Yield: 2 Cups (appr

    Recipe by William Phillips,
    -chef-instructor at the
    -Culinary
    Institute of America.
    1 t Onion, diced and rinsed to
    -enhance sweetness
    1 ea Scotch bonnet/habanero
    -pepper, seeded and finely
    -minced
    3 T Fresh basil, julienned
    1/2 ea Red bell pepper, 1/4-inch
    -dice
    1/2 ea Yellow bell pepper,
    -1/4-inch dice
    1/4 c Ripe pineapple, diced
    1/4 c Mango, diced
    1/4 c Papaya, diced
    Juice of 2 limes
    1/4 t Salt
    1/4 t Sugar

    Method: Combine all ingredients in a bowl. Chill for at least 30
    minutes so flavors can meld. Serve with grilled fish or lighter
    meats. Also complements barbecued or jerked chicken. Bon Appetit,
    Ecec.Chef Magnus Johansson

    Submitted By SHERREE JOHANSSON On 09-21-94

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  • From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Dale Shipp on Friday, March 22, 2019 08:02:00
    Dale Shipp wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    We used to buy Tiger Prawns until we found out how they were often
    farm fed in various unsanitary ways. Now we only get wild caught Gulf shrimp from Wegmans.

    What's your stance on tilapia?

    The same as it is on Tiger Prawns from Thailand or Cambodia. Until I
    can see that it is either wild caught (not much chance of that I
    believe) or is raised under sanitary conditions, I won't buy it nor eat it.

    As I noted in the recipe I posted - there are a number of decent
    substitutes for tilapia. Wild caught is not a magick bullet. This old
    world's rivers and oceans are not necessarily "sanitary" ... especially
    given the way they are treated as garbage dumps and open sewers - not
    only be "third-world" countries but by the US and other global "leaders"
    as well.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Parmesan Crusted Tilapia Fillets
    Categories: Five, Seafood, Cheese, Herbs
    Yield: 4 Servings

    3/4 c Grated Parmesan cheese
    2 ts Paprika
    1 tb Chopped fresh parsley
    Salt & ground black pepper
    4 Tilapia fillets (or halibut)
    Olive oil

    Set oven @ 400+XF/205+XC.

    Line a baking sheet with aluminum foil.

    Whisk Parmesan cheese, paprika, parsley, salt, and
    pepper together in a shallow dish.

    Coat tilapia fillets with olive oil and press into the
    Parmesan cheese mixture. Arrange coated fillets on the
    prepared baking sheet.

    Bake until the fish flakes easily with a fork, 10 to 12
    minutes.

    UDD Notes: I use halibut for this recipe since I do not
    trust the way that tilapia is "farmed". It's a bit more
    pricey but I don't worry myself sick worrying if my
    fish will make me sick.

    by Lilian Snoo

    RECIPE FROM: http://allrecipes.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

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  • From RUTH HANSCHKA@1:123/140 to DAVE DRUM on Friday, March 22, 2019 23:57:06
    Only the first two of those are what I would consider to be
    raw.
    Ceviche is cooked, sort of, by the citric juices. The others
    are
    processed in a manner that should take care of any pathegens.

    ... Better than giant shrimp artificially fattened with
    steroids.

    I usually go for the Gulf shrimp when available. You're never
    certain with those farmed ones from Asia of exactly what went into
    them.

    farm fed in various unsanitary ways. Now we only get wild
    caught Gulf
    shrimp from Wegmans.

    What's your stance on tilapia?

    Serve with a large helping of nope, Nope and NOPE. I've bought some
    that was prepared from the Kosher case, because I could trust the
    source, but otherwise it's a no go. Swai either.
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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to RUTH HANSCHKA on Saturday, March 23, 2019 07:47:00
    RUTH HANSCHKA wrote to DAVE DRUM <=-

    Only the first two of those are what I would consider to be
    raw. Ceviche is cooked, sort of, by the citric juices. The
    others are processed in a manner that should take care of
    any pathegens.

    ... Better than giant shrimp artificially fattened with
    steroids.

    I usually go for the Gulf shrimp when available. You're never
    certain with those farmed ones from Asia of exactly what went into
    them.

    Or Central and South America, anywhere in Africa, not to mention Brooklyn rooftops.

    farm fed in various unsanitary ways. Now we only get wild
    caught Gulf shrimp from Wegmans.

    What's your stance on tilapia?

    Serve with a large helping of nope, Nope and NOPE. I've bought
    some that was prepared from the Kosher case, because I could trust
    the source, but otherwise it's a no go. Swai either.

    Kosher ain't a magick bullet. All Kosher tells you is that your fish had
    fins and scales and was processed in a Kosher facility. Nuttin' about
    how it was raised/fed - altho I am sure that some nods are made to the sensibilities of Mrs. Goldblum et al.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Kosher Creole Seafood Gumbo
    Categories: Cajun, Soups, Seafood, Chilies
    Yield: 8 Servings

    1 lg Onion; chopped
    1/2 lg Bell pepper; chopped
    1 cl Garlic; chopped
    2 tb Vegetable oil
    2 tb Flour
    15 oz Can stewed tomatoes
    6 oz Can tomato paste
    2 ts Salt
    1 Bay leaf
    1/2 ts Chilli spice mix
    1/2 ts Basil leaves
    1 lb Trout filets
    10 oz Box frozen, sliced okra;
    - partially thawed
    1/2 lb Redfish filets
    3 c Water
    1 tb Worcestershire sauce
    3 c Hot cooked rice

    Saute veggies slightly in oil in dutch oven. Stir in
    flour; blend well. Add remaining ingreds. except fish,
    okra and rice. Simmer covered for 30 min. Remove bay
    leaf.

    Add fish and okra. Cover and simmer additional 10 min.
    or until snot pods are tender.

    Serve in soup bowls or plates over hot rice.

    Recipe may be easily doubled. Freezes well.

    Better next day.

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  • From FRED A BALL@1:123/140 to DALE SHIPP on Friday, March 22, 2019 16:31:00
    We used to buy Tiger Prawns until we found out how they were often farm fed in various unsanitary ways. Now we only get wild caught Gulf shrimp from Wegmans.
    What's your stance on tilapia?
    The same as it is on Tiger Prawns from Thailand or Cambodia. Until I DS*>can see that it is either wild caught (not much chance of that I DS*>believe) or is raised under sanitary conditions, I won't buy it nor eat DS*>it.

    I will not knowingly eat any farmed fish or crustation not raised on a
    farm outside of the US. And some of those I am leary about. I asked at
    the Publix grocery store near me why they sold farmed raised shrimp
    from such countries as Vietman, Thialand and other eastern countries.
    They said they inspect every farm for proper practices. I just laughed
    and said sure and all they let you see is one very small plot that is
    kept to show inspectors, not the rest of the operation where anything
    goes. The person said that that was not so I then asked if they
    personly went on an inspection, the answer was no. Point made!!

    If you want shrimp, fish or any other seafood get it wild cought or
    farmed in the US it is much safer that way.


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  • From RUTH HANSCHKA@1:123/140 to DAVE DRUM on Wednesday, March 27, 2019 18:08:06
    RUTH HANSCHKA wrote to DAVE DRUM <=-

    Only the first two of those are what I would consider to be
    raw. Ceviche is cooked, sort of, by the citric juices. The
    others are processed in a manner that should take care of
    any pathegens.

    ... Better than giant shrimp artificially fattened with
    steroids.

    I usually go for the Gulf shrimp when available. You're never
    certain with those farmed ones from Asia of exactly what went
    into
    them.

    Or Central and South America, anywhere in Africa, not to mention
    Brooklyn
    rooftops.

    Brooklyn might be among the scarier scenarios. Stuff from Chile
    ought to be fine.

    What's your stance on tilapia?

    Serve with a large helping of nope, Nope and NOPE. I've
    bought
    some that was prepared from the Kosher case, because I could
    trust
    the source, but otherwise it's a no go. Swai either.

    Kosher ain't a magick bullet. All Kosher tells you is that your
    fish had
    fins and scales and was processed in a Kosher facility. Nuttin'
    about
    how it was raised/fed - altho I am sure that some nods are made to
    the
    sensibilities of Mrs. Goldblum et al.

    The odds are better at least. You have to know the provider.


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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to RUTH HANSCHKA on Thursday, March 28, 2019 07:10:00
    RUTH HANSCHKA wrote to DAVE DRUM <=-

    Only the first two of those are what I would consider to be
    raw. Ceviche is cooked, sort of, by the citric juices. The
    others are processed in a manner that should take care of
    any pathegens.

    ... Better than giant shrimp artificially fattened with
    steroids.

    I usually go for the Gulf shrimp when available. You're never
    certain with those farmed ones from Asia of exactly what went
    into them.

    Or Central and South America, anywhere in Africa, not to mention
    Brooklyn rooftops.

    Brooklyn might be among the scarier scenarios. Stuff from Chile
    ought to be fine.

    The Carry-beano and Atlantic parts not-so-much. Especially Venezuela
    and Columbia

    What's your stance on tilapia?

    Serve with a large helping of nope, Nope and NOPE. I've
    bought some that was prepared from the Kosher case, because
    I could trust the source, but otherwise it's a no go. Swai
    either.

    Kosher ain't a magick bullet. All Kosher tells you is that your
    fish had fins and scales and was processed in a Kosher facility.
    Nuttin' about how it was raised/fed - altho I am sure that some
    nods are made to the sensibilities of Mrs. Goldblum et al.

    The odds are better at least. You have to know the provider.

    That he'ps in many/most cases. Hard to know the provider of styro-tray
    cling film wrapped product sitting in a refrigerated gondola down the stupormarkup.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Salt-Fried Shrimp
    Categories: Emeril, Seafood, Oriental
    Yield: 2 Servings

    1/2 c Oil; for frying
    1/2 c Soy sauce
    1/4 c Rice wine vinegar
    1 ts Finely-minced ginger
    1/2 ts Chilli oil
    2 tb Thinly-shaved scallions,
    - plus extra for garnish
    1 c Flour
    2 tb Cornstarch
    6 Egg whites
    1 c Kosher salt
    1/2 c Coarse-cracked black pepper
    1 lb Large shrimp; shell-on,
    - split down back and
    - deveined

    Recipe courtesy Emeril Lagasse

    Slowly heat oil in a wok or large skillet. In a small
    bowl combine next 5 ingredients for sauce. In 3 bowls,
    combine flour and cornstarch in first; beat egg whites
    with a fork until loose in the second; mix salt and
    pepper in third bowl.

    Dip shrimp first in flour mixture, shaking off excess;
    dip in egg whites, allowing excess to drip off. Lightly
    roll in salt mixture and add immediately to hot oil.
    Fry on all sides, remove and drain on paper towels.

    Serve with sauce, garnished with extra scallions.

    Yield: 12 to 15 shrimp

    SOURCE: Essence of Emeril Cooking Show #EE0086

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  • From RUTH HANSCHKA@1:123/140 to DAVE DRUM on Wednesday, April 03, 2019 01:12:22
    I usually go for the Gulf shrimp when available. You're
    never
    certain with those farmed ones from Asia of exactly what
    went
    into them.

    Or Central and South America, anywhere in Africa, not to mention
    Brooklyn rooftops.

    Brooklyn might be among the scarier scenarios. Stuff from
    Chile
    ought to be fine.

    The Carry-beano and Atlantic parts not-so-much. Especially
    Venezuela
    and Columbia

    I'll take the flowers from Columbia though. Imports from Venezuela
    at the moment aren't a problem.

    Nuttin' about how it was raised/fed - altho I am sure that some
    nods are made to the sensibilities of Mrs. Goldblum et al.

    The odds are better at least. You have to know the provider.

    That he'ps in many/most cases. Hard to know the provider of styro-
    tray
    cling film wrapped product sitting in a refrigerated gondola down
    the
    stupormarkup.

    The Kosher providers for that stuff here are all locals. No
    advertising even.
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  • From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to RUTH HANSCHKA on Wednesday, April 03, 2019 07:41:31
    RUTH HANSCHKA wrote to DAVE DRUM <=-

    Or Central and South America, anywhere in Africa, not to mention
    Brooklyn rooftops.

    Brooklyn might be among the scarier scenarios. Stuff from
    Chile ought to be fine.

    The Carry-beano and Atlantic parts not-so-much. Especially
    Venezuela and Columbia

    I'll take the flowers from Columbia though. Imports from Venezuela
    at the moment aren't a problem.

    Not in relation to exporting foodstuffs anyway.

    Nuttin' about how it was raised/fed - altho I am sure that some
    nods are made to the sensibilities of Mrs. Goldblum et al.

    The odds are better at least. You have to know the provider.

    That he'ps in many/most cases. Hard to know the provider of styro-
    tray cling film wrapped product sitting in a refrigerated gondola
    down the stupormarkup.

    The Kosher providers for that stuff here are all locals. No
    advertising even.

    My friend Les and his girl-friend made a trip Sunday to St. Louis, MO
    (100 or so miles) to buy KFP supplies. There is no reliable source of
    Kosher here since Harry Stein's Deli closed these 35 years ago. Sarah
    keeps a strictly Kosher kitchen. Les is a lot more relaxed about it.

    I asked him to pick me up some knishes from the 2c Plain Deli. But they
    were closed on Sunday .... prompting me to say "HUH?!?!" In my experience sundown Friday to sundown Saturday is Sabbath closing time.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: For 2 Cents - Plain Knishes
    Categories: Pastry, Potatoes, Beef, Vegetables
    Yield: 5 Servings

    MMMMM---------------------------PASTRY--------------------------------
    1 1/2 c Flour
    1/2 c Shortening
    1/2 ts Salt
    Cold water

    MMMMM--------------------------FILLING-------------------------------
    2 lg Russet potatoes
    3 cl Garlic; minced
    4 Green onions w/tops; diced
    1/2 tb Coarse black pepper
    3/4 lb Ground beef; cooked, loose
    Parsley

    Pastry: Add salt to flour and mix. Work lard & butter
    into flour mix with fork until mixture is crumbly.
    Sprinkle in water gradually and mix together until
    moist enough to form soft dough. Turn onto floured
    surface and work until smooth. Cover and refrigerate
    until filling is prepared.

    Filling: Preheat oven to 350°F/175°C. Peel and dice
    potatoes. Add potatoes, garlic and onions together
    in a large pot. Cover with water and boil until
    potatoes are tender. Drain off water and mash together.
    Add in beef, and parsley. Mix together well.

    When filling is cool enough to work with take-out
    pastry and separate into 5-6 portions. Roll dough
    portion out on floured surface. Place approximately
    1/2 cup filling in center of pastry. Seal into a round
    or square packet using egg wash or water.

    Place packets on a lightly greased baking sheet. Bake
    at 350°F/175°C until pastry is lightly golden brown.

    Yields: 5 knishes

    Recipe courtesy Jack & Charlie Carl; 2 Cents Plain
    Deli, 4239 Olive (Gaslight Square), St. Louis, MO.

    UDD NOTE: These freeze well.

    From: http://www.stlmag.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

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  • From RUTH HANSCHKA@1:123/140 to DAVE DRUM on Friday, April 05, 2019 23:35:18
    The Carry-beano and Atlantic parts not-so-much. Especially
    Venezuela and Columbia

    I'll take the flowers from Columbia though. Imports from
    Venezuela
    at the moment aren't a problem.

    Not in relation to exporting foodstuffs anyway.

    Or anything else. Even the refugees aren't washing up here.

    The Kosher providers for that stuff here are all locals. No
    advertising even.

    My friend Les and his girl-friend made a trip Sunday to St. Louis,
    MO
    (100 or so miles) to buy KFP supplies. There is no reliable source
    of
    Kosher here since Harry Stein's Deli closed these 35 years ago.
    Sarah
    keeps a strictly Kosher kitchen. Les is a lot more relaxed about
    it.

    One supermarket here puts in a whole aisle of K for P stuff. It draws
    a crowd from all over the place. There's a Kosher supermarket around
    the corner, and it gets out of towners too for the same reasons.

    I asked him to pick me up some knishes from the 2c Plain Deli. But
    they
    were closed on Sunday .... prompting me to say "HUH?!?!" In my
    experience
    sundown Friday to sundown Saturday is Sabbath closing time.

    Then again, most folks need a day off after that day off.
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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Michael Loo on Tuesday, September 17, 2019 02:18:04
    On 09-16-19 05:33, Michael Loo <=-
    spoke to Dale Shipp about 969 Butter <=-

    Title: Gyro with Cucumber Yogurt Sauce**

    That recipe needs an antidote.

    Sometimes I just want to poke the bear to see what happens:-}}

    Reserved shells from 2 lb large shrimp (see below)
    2 lb large shrimp, shelled and deveined, shells reserved

    We watched a Food network show called Chopped tonight. In one of the
    rounds, the chef contestants were given a basket that included what were
    called jumbo shrimp. To be honest, from looking at those shrimp, I
    would say that 2 pound would be about 2 shrimp. I have never in my life
    seen nor even imagined shrimp that were bigger than most lobster tails
    one might buy.

    I actually grabbed this recipe sort of by chance (tonight's file had no
    shrimp nor lobster) and because seeing NC Ruth mention wild rice.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

    Title: Wild-Rice Burger
    Categories: Barbeque, Burger, Rice, Sandwich
    Yield: 1 servings

    1 lb Lean ground pork
    1 ts Pepper
    1/4 ts Salt or seasoned salt or
    Pepper
    1 c Cooked wild rice
    4 Hamburger buns, split and
    Toasted
    Condiments: sliced sweet
    Onion, cooked bacon slices,
    Dill pickle
    Chips, sliced tomatoes,
    Shredded lettuce, colby and
    Monterey
    Jack cheese slices,
    Mayonnaise, ketchup and
    Mustard

    1. In a mixing bowl, combine pork, pepper, salt and wild rice. Mix
    well. Shape into four 3/4-inch-thick patties.

    2. Grill meat on the rack of an uncovered grill directly over medium
    coals 14 to 18 minutes or till no pink remains, turning once halfway
    through cooking.

    3. Serve on buns. Top with your choice of condiments.

    Makes 4 servings.

    Oak Hill Farm Burger: Prepare as above, except use a garlic-pepper
    seasoning blend for the seasonings and omit wild rice. Serve on buns
    with your choice of onion, bacon, pickles, tomatoes, lettuce, cheese,
    mayonnaise, ketchup and mustard. Makes 4 servings.

    From : Sallie Krebs, Sat 06 Aug 95 04:00, Area: COOKING

    Source: Midwest Living, August 1995

    A north-woods touch, precooked Minnesota wild rice, flavors these pork
    patties from Katie Koziolek, who lives near Freeborn, Minnesota (80
    miles south of Minneapolis). For summer entertaining at her Oak Hill
    Farm, Katie asks guests to bring salads and bar cookies. She supplies
    the burgers and serves root beer and regular beer on tap.

    From: Sallie Krebs Date: 08-05 Cooking

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  • From JIM WELLER@1:123/140 to DALE SHIPP on Thursday, September 19, 2019 22:00:00

    Quoting Dale Shipp to Michael Loo <=-

    Chopped / contestants were given / jumbo shrimp.
    I would say that 2 pound would be about 2 shrimp. I have never in my
    life seen nor even imagined shrimp that were bigger than most lobster tails

    They were probably what are called giant tiger prawn or Asian tiger
    shrimp. They can run up to 10 inches long and weigh 8 or more ounces
    each. They are native to SE Asia, widely farmed but considered
    invasive if they escape. Apparently they eat all the small native
    shrimp's food; then they eat all the small shrimp,

    Speaking of things swimming around where they don't belong, a
    man in Kugluktuk recently netted a salmon shark which had
    somehow gotten there from the warm waters off the B.C. coast.
    I first heard about it on Facebook: "My grandpa Kapakatoak
    caught a shark in his seal nets today. We're gonna eat him." But the
    next day it was in the media with comments from marine biologists.
    Sharks aren't supposed to be able to survive in frigid waters but
    the Arctic Ocean is warming dramatically. Not only had Peter
    Kapakatoak never seen a shark before except on TV, neither had anyone
    else in the community where everyone still hunts and fish all the
    time.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Braised Root Vegetables with Winter Savoy
    Categories: British, Vegetables, Herbs, Stews
    Yield: 8 Servings

    1 Celeriac root
    3 Carrots
    4 Leeks
    12 Shallots
    2 Parsnips
    60 g Beef dripping
    1 tb Brown sugar
    10 oz Vegetable stock
    1 ts Salt
    1 Handful winter savory

    Pre heat oven to 400F. Wash and peel all vegetables. Cut them into
    attractive shapes, giving a variety of shapes and colours. Keep them
    roughly equal in size and leave shallots whole. Heat dripping in a
    large frying pan. Fry vegetables briskly on all sides, shaking pan
    and stirring vegetables. Sprinkle brown sugar over vegetables and
    allow to caramelise slightly. Add stock, salt and winter savory to
    pan and bring to the boil. Pour into an ovenproof dish. Pot roast in
    a pre-heated oven for 20 minutes until vegetables are cooked and have
    taken on a golden colour.

    Serve vegetables in cooking liquor in the baking dish, sprinkled with
    a few chopped chives or a tablespoonful of chopped parsley.

    Carlton Food Network www.cfn.co.uk

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    Cheers

    Jim


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