• 111 travel was crusty again and taking, taking

    From MICHAEL LOO@1:123/140 to RUTH HAFFLY on Wednesday, March 20, 2019 00:54:54
    Could be a hardship.
    If we got in the triple digits of daily
    traffic, that would be so.
    I think those days are past.

    And fine, too. I'd like to see a little more
    traffic here, but not too much more. I do what
    I can, with the 5 a day routine, and I discover
    that doing 10 a day doesn't change things much,
    so once in a while I may do that.

    i've known amateur and professional service dog
    trainers - Lilli's kids used to do that as a
    4-H project when they were in high school. Guess
    who ended up doing the lion's share of the work.
    I'll have to ask her about this all sometime.
    IIRC, after a 4-H kid raises a puppy for a year or so, teaching it
    basics, it goes on to more advanced training from a professional. A lot
    goes into training the animals, and matching them with just the right
    person but the benefits are quite remarkable.

    Lilli was an actual trainer as well; her expertise
    was in horses, but it was my impression that she
    did the finish work on the dogs, because she ended
    up knowing how the placements ended up. I'll have
    to ask this week when I see her.

    I've seen ones that call for less bisquick, maybe 2 cups.
    I wonder what the minimum amout would be. Zero?
    No, you need something to hold the cheese and sausage together.
    I'm going to vote for no flour or just a little
    bit, maybe up to 20%. Make smallish balls, start
    them off in a very hot oven, then turn the oven
    off and let them finish cooking.
    Might be something to experiment with.

    As it turns out, that experiment has been done,
    as a post to Swisher notes.

    Smoky shrimp and cheesy grits
    I'd enjoy this but Steve couldn't eat it. The grits, being corn,
    would > not be good for him.
    You could use cream of wheat instead.
    GAG!

    HAH!

    Perhaps willingly being milked is the ideal condition; I think not.
    Some people like that experience.
    Perhaps. Some like being beaten, too.
    Some, not all.
    Not everyone likes being cheated.
    True.
    I almost always hate it and will remember an
    incident for decades.
    Usually an experience like that does linger in the memory.

    For me, it's when the person "sounds nice" and ends
    up untrustworthy - it's a wonder I'm not really down
    on people who "sound nice."

    Nope. If they won't give me what I want
    when I need it, I'll go someplace that will.
    Sounds fair, are they usually co-operative?
    It's a crapshoot - I find that on the east coast
    they're better at it than on the west coast.
    Probably depends on the doctor/practice also.

    No doubt, but I don't have an infinite amount
    of opportunity to shop around.

    OK, I'd maybe look into some other kind of cracker or cracker
    substitute > then.
    Or perhaps refrain from making it, which would
    be my way of coping.
    Most likely mine also.
    I'd say that 99% of the recipes I post will
    never be made by me, and for recipes in general
    that I read my chances of making are even smaller.
    Sounds about normal.

    Especially as most of the time I don't even
    consult recipes, much less follow them.

    This is perhaps a setting where you'd expect
    graham crakers ... but that also contains
    saltines.
    Title: Butterfinger Dessert *
    I'll pass, IIRC, butterfingers have peanut butter in them.
    So put Snickerses on top!
    I'd go for Milky Way bars.
    Oh, yeah, those peanuts again.
    Not the peanuts themselves but peanut butter is what I object to. Also,
    I like Milky Way bars betteer than Snickers bars.

    If Milky Way is the one with the malted nougat,
    I agree. Or is that Three Musketeers?

    Alexandre Dumas potato salad
    categories: French, literary, starter, side
    servings: 6
    Ingredients

    6 lg new or waxy potatoes, unpeeled
    2 Tb salt
    1 ts freshly ground black pepper
    1/2 c dry white wine
    8 Tb olive oil
    1 Tb white wine vinegar
    1/2 c chopped parsley
    1/2 c chopped green onion or chives

    Boil the potatoes in their skins in salted water
    to cover until just done. Drain and peel while hot.
    Slice them into a bowl, season to taste and pour
    the wine and oil over them. Let them cool, then
    add the vinegar, parsley, and green onions, and
    toss lightly.

    Serve with cold meats or chicken, or as part of a
    summer buffet.

    Alexandre Dumas, adapted by James Beard
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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Michael Loo on Thursday, March 21, 2019 03:00:04
    On 03-19-19 23:54, Michael Loo <=-
    spoke to Ruth Haffly about 111 travel was crusty aga <=-

    i've known amateur and professional service dog
    trainers - Lilli's kids used to do that as a
    4-H project when they were in high school. Guess
    who ended up doing the lion's share of the work.
    I'll have to ask her about this all sometime.

    IIRC, after a 4-H kid raises a puppy for a year or so, teaching it
    basics, it goes on to more advanced training from a professional. A lot
    goes into training the animals, and matching them with just the right
    person but the benefits are quite remarkable.

    Lilli was an actual trainer as well; her expertise
    was in horses, but it was my impression that she
    did the finish work on the dogs, because she ended
    up knowing how the placements ended up. I'll have
    to ask this week when I see her.

    I recall talking with Henry Kasten about his seeing eye dogs. He went
    to the training center to train with the dog for several months. I've
    met two of his dogs. The first was quite good. When we went to dinner
    at a lobster house with him, the dog sat peacefully under the table for
    the entire time. The second dog was not so good. We went with Henry to downtown DC in the wintertime to go to a Thai restaurant. On the way
    out of the parking lot, that dog walked Henry into a snow bank. He did
    park under the table in the restaurant, but growled at anyone who walked
    by. Later on, we found out that Henry had to turn the second dog in.
    He was fine as a pet, but as soon as the working harness went on, the
    dog got very nerveous and unpredictable.

    Here is an eggplant recipe that Nancy could eat :-}}

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

    Title: PEAR CAPONATA - MARTHA STEWART LIVING
    Categories: .msl, Relishes, Sidedish, Fruits, Appetizers
    Yield: 8 Appetizers

    1 cn (28-oz) peeled Italian plum
    -tomatoes
    1 md Eggplant
    Salt
    6 T Olive oil
    2 t Sugar, plus more to taste
    1 lg Onion, peeled and chopped
    2 Cloves garlic, peeled and
    -minced
    2 T Capers
    2 Bosc, Anjou, or Bartlett
    -pears
    1/4 c Currants
    2 t Balsamic vinegar
    Freshly ground pepper
    1 Baguette, sliced and toasted

    1. Drain tomatoes, reserving juice. Seed tomatoes, chop coarsely, and
    set aside.

    2. Slice eggplant into 3/4-inch rounds. Place on a wire rack,
    sprinkle with salt, and leave to drain for 30 minutes. Rinse well and
    pat dry. Cut slices into 3/4-inch cubes.

    3. Heat oven to 425'. Place a 12-by-14-inch baking pan in oven for 5
    minutes. In a bowl, toss eggplant with 4 T olive oil and 1 t sugar,
    then spread out on pan. Return to oven; roast for 25 minutes, or
    until eggplant is tender and well browned, shaking pan after 15
    minutes.

    4. Meanwhile, in a large saute pan, heat 1 T olive oil over medium
    heat. Add onion and garlic; cook until golden, about 7 minutes. Add
    eggplant, tomatoes, 2/3 C reserved tomato juice, and capers. Cook
    over medium-low heat for 10 minutes, stirring occasionally. Keep warm.

    5. Return baking pan to oven to heat. Cut flesh from pears in 3/4-inch
    chunks. Toss with remaining tablespoon oil and 1 teaspoon sugar and
    spread out on warmed pan. Roast for 25 minutes, or until pears are
    tender and golden brown, shaking pan after 15 minutes.

    6. Add pears and currants to eggplant mixture. Season with vinegar,
    sugar, salt, and pepper. Resume cooking for 5 to 10 minutes. Add more
    tomato juice, if needed, to keep caponata from becoming dry. Serve
    warm on toasted baguette slices.

    Martha Stewart Living/Oct. & Nov./93 Put together by Di Pahl & <gg>

    MMMMM



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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to MICHAEL LOO on Wednesday, March 20, 2019 22:23:28
    Hi Michael,

    Could be a hardship.
    If we got in the triple digits of daily
    traffic, that would be so.
    I think those days are past.

    And fine, too. I'd like to see a little more
    traffic here, but not too much more. I do what
    I can, with the 5 a day routine, and I discover
    that doing 10 a day doesn't change things much,
    so once in a while I may do that.

    I try to keep caught up every day unless there are extenuating
    circumstances. If needs be, I'll "binge" for a few days to catch up
    then, but try to keep writing to 20 or under per upload.

    i've known amateur and professional service dog
    trainers - Lilli's kids used to do that as a
    4-H project when they were in high school. Guess
    who ended up doing the lion's share of the work.
    I'll have to ask her about this all sometime.
    IIRC, after a 4-H kid raises a puppy for a year or so, teaching it basics, it goes on to more advanced training from a professional. A
    lot > goes into training the animals, and matching them with just the right > person but the benefits are quite remarkable.

    Lilli was an actual trainer as well; her expertise
    was in horses, but it was my impression that she
    did the finish work on the dogs, because she ended
    up knowing how the placements ended up. I'll have
    to ask this week when I see her.

    Probably a lot more involved than we'd realise. When I was a kid, our
    dogs learned basic tricks but nothing like what the service dogs have to
    learn.

    I've seen ones that call for less bisquick, maybe 2
    cups. > ML> > ML> I wonder what the minimum amout would be. Zero?
    No, you need something to hold the cheese and sausage
    together. > ML> I'm going to vote for no flour or just a little
    bit, maybe up to 20%. Make smallish balls, start
    them off in a very hot oven, then turn the oven
    off and let them finish cooking.
    Might be something to experiment with.

    As it turns out, that experiment has been done,
    as a post to Swisher notes.

    I'll have to check it out.

    Smoky shrimp and cheesy grits
    I'd enjoy this but Steve couldn't eat it. The grits, being
    corn, > ML> would > not be good for him.
    You could use cream of wheat instead.
    GAG!

    HAH!

    When you have years of alternating days (from Labor Day to late June) of oatmeal and CoW, for 20 some years, it gets old fast. Over the years, I
    got to the point where I could take oatmeal--with extra sugar, cinnamon
    and raisins--but never again CoW. Then I had to give up piling on the
    extras with the oatmeal when I got the diabetes diagnosis. I'll (very)
    rarely have a bowl of it now, preferring other things for breakfast.

    Perhaps willingly being milked is the
    ideal > ML> > ML> > ML> > ML> condition; I think not.
    Some people like that experience.
    Perhaps. Some like being beaten, too.
    Some, not all.
    Not everyone likes being cheated.
    True.
    I almost always hate it and will remember an
    incident for decades.
    Usually an experience like that does linger in the memory.

    For me, it's when the person "sounds nice" and ends
    up untrustworthy - it's a wonder I'm not really down
    on people who "sound nice."

    Sounds like a backstabbing.


    Nope. If they won't give me what I want
    when I need it, I'll go someplace that will.
    Sounds fair, are they usually co-operative?
    It's a crapshoot - I find that on the east coast
    they're better at it than on the west coast.
    Probably depends on the doctor/practice also.

    No doubt, but I don't have an infinite amount
    of opportunity to shop around.

    We try to stay local but Steve gets a lot of his care at the VA hospital
    in Durham. My primary care doctor is here in WF, ortho doctor is
    officially in North Raleigh but the line is just across the main road
    thru the area--may as well say WF.

    OK, I'd maybe look into some other kind of cracker or
    cracker > ML> > ML> substitute > then.
    Or perhaps refrain from making it, which would
    be my way of coping.
    Most likely mine also.
    I'd say that 99% of the recipes I post will
    never be made by me, and for recipes in general
    that I read my chances of making are even smaller.
    Sounds about normal.

    Especially as most of the time I don't even
    consult recipes, much less follow them.

    I'll sometimes post what I make, but do it in a free form sort of style.
    Steve has a couple of recipe programs on the desk top system that I
    don't use very often any more. I did put some recipies into MM years
    ago; some are on floppies from when we had the C-64.

    This is perhaps a setting where you'd expect
    graham crakers ... but that also contains
    saltines.
    Title: Butterfinger Dessert *
    I'll pass, IIRC, butterfingers have peanut butter in
    them. > ML> > ML> So put Snickerses on top!
    I'd go for Milky Way bars.
    Oh, yeah, those peanuts again.
    Not the peanuts themselves but peanut butter is what I object to.
    Also, > I like Milky Way bars better than Snickers bars.

    If Milky Way is the one with the malted nougat,
    I agree. Or is that Three Musketeers?

    It's the 3 Musketeers, Milky Way has more of a caramel filling.


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Ruth Haffly on Friday, March 22, 2019 02:39:04
    On 03-20-19 21:23, Ruth Haffly <=-
    spoke to Michael Loo about 111 travel was crusty aga <=-

    If Milky Way is the one with the malted nougat,
    I agree. Or is that Three Musketeers?

    It's the 3 Musketeers, Milky Way has more of a caramel filling.

    They also have (perhaps limited edition) a marshmallow filling. Not
    bad.


    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

    Title: HERBED CHEESE IN 'LITTLE DIPPER' PEPPERS - COUNTRY LIVING
    Categories: .cl, Appetizers, Vegetables
    Yield: 18 Appetizers

    1/4 c Fresh parsley leaves
    1 T Fresh oregano or tarragon
    -leaves
    1 T Chopped fresh chives
    1 t Finely chopped hot yellow
    -pepper ('Yellow Cayenne')
    1 pk (8-oz) cream cheese,
    -at room temperature
    2 T Butter, softened
    1/2 t Worcestershire sauce
    9 'Little Dipper' sweet green
    -or red peppers, halved
    -lengthwise and seeded

    1. In food processor with chopping blade, process parsley, oregano,
    chives, and hot pepper until finely chopped. Add cream cheese,
    butter, and Worcestershire; process until well mixed and creamy.

    2. Spoon herbed cheese into large pastry bag fitted with a decorative
    tip. Pipe some herbed cheese into each pepper half. Arrange on
    platter. Serve immediately or cover with plastic wrap and refrigerate
    until ready to serve-no longer than 3 hours ahead.

    Nutrition information per appetizer-protein: 1 gram; fat: 6 grams;
    carbohydrate: 1 gram; flber: .2 gram; sodium: 51 milligrams;
    cholesterol: 17 milligrams; calories: 59.

    Country Living/Feb/94 Scanned & fixed by DP & GG

    MMMMM


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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dale Shipp on Friday, March 22, 2019 15:41:43
    Hi Dale,


    If Milky Way is the one with the malted nougat,
    I agree. Or is that Three Musketeers?

    It's the 3 Musketeers, Milky Way has more of a caramel filling.

    They also have (perhaps limited edition) a marshmallow filling. Not
    bad.

    Are you thinking of the Milky Way with the dark chocolate? I tried it
    when it first came out, was not impressed with the filling. Now, if they
    would put the dark chocolate coating on the original caramel filling,
    I'd buy it in a heart beat. (G)

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Ruth Haffly on Sunday, March 24, 2019 03:46:04
    On 03-22-19 14:41, Ruth Haffly <=-
    spoke to Dale Shipp about Milky Way Marshmallow <=-

    If Milky Way is the one with the malted nougat,
    I agree. Or is that Three Musketeers?

    It's the 3 Musketeers, Milky Way has more of a caramel filling.

    They also have (perhaps limited edition) a marshmallow filling. Not
    bad.

    The antecedent for "they" was supposed to have been 3 musketeers, not
    milky way. We have some of the 3 musketeer marshmallow in snack packs
    we bought. Not bad, not great.

    Are you thinking of the Milky Way with the dark chocolate? I tried it
    when it first came out, was not impressed with the filling. Now, if
    they would put the dark chocolate coating on the original caramel
    filling, I'd buy it in a heart beat. (G)

    I do like the midnight (i.e. dark) milky way -- but I cannot right now
    say whether or not the filling is different from the milk chocolate
    version.

    There are some other low carb cheese things in tonight's file -- *BUT*
    they use (shudder) low fat cheese. I don't know if that has an impact
    on the carb rating, but it sure has an impact on the taste, and not in a
    good way.


    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

    Title: DIABETIC CHEESE AND CHUTNEY SPREAD
    Categories: Diabetic, Appetizers, Cheese/eggs, Info
    Yield: 10 Servings

    2 c Edam cheese, shredded
    4 t Chutney
    1/2 t Curry powder
    2 1/2 t Milk
    4 sm Green onions, chopped

    Combine cheese, chutney and curry powder in a mixing bowl; beat
    together adding milk slowly until mixture holds together in a fairly
    smooth ball. Roll in chopped green onions. Wrap and store in
    refrigerator until serving time.

    Makes 10 servings Each serving = 5 teaspoons
    1 protein choice
    1/2 fat/oil choice
    3 g carbohydrate
    7 g protein
    6 g fat
    390 kilojoules
    94 calories

    MMMMM


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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dale Shipp on Sunday, March 24, 2019 21:33:57
    Hi Dale,

    If Milky Way is the one with the malted nougat,
    I agree. Or is that Three Musketeers?

    It's the 3 Musketeers, Milky Way has more of a caramel filling.

    They also have (perhaps limited edition) a marshmallow filling. Not
    bad.

    The antecedent for "they" was supposed to have been 3 musketeers, not milky way. We have some of the 3 musketeer marshmallow in snack packs
    we bought. Not bad, not great.

    OK, I misinterpreted. I've not seen the marshmallow 3 Musketeers bars,
    but I don't buy check out line candy very much any more. (G)


    Are you thinking of the Milky Way with the dark chocolate? I tried it
    when it first came out, was not impressed with the filling. Now, if
    they would put the dark chocolate coating on the original caramel
    filling, I'd buy it in a heart beat. (G)

    I do like the midnight (i.e. dark) milky way -- but I cannot right now
    say whether or not the filling is different from the milk chocolate version.

    It sort of reminds me of fondant.


    There are some other low carb cheese things in tonight's file -- *BUT* they use (shudder) low fat cheese. I don't know if that has an impact
    on the carb rating, but it sure has an impact on the taste, and not in
    a good way.

    I don't know about the carb rating but low fat cheese stays on the store
    shelf when we go shopping. (G)

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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