• 81 was shambolic

    From MICHAEL LOO@1:123/140 to RUTH HANSCHKA on Wednesday, March 13, 2019 11:52:20
    restaurants), Virgil's, Stewart's, IBC, all
    have been eaten up, as have smaller soda
    makers such as Jones, Faygo, and Shasta.
    They've all been wrecked too from what I can tell.
    I don't bother investigating any more.
    I drink soda maybe twice a year, real sugar only, so I wouldn't know
    either.

    When it's hot out I'll drink soda; Lilli
    buys only Diet Pepsi, so when the beer has
    run out, I'll do that. Rosemary and Bonnie
    don't do soft drinks, but Bonnie has an
    emergency supply of Mug root beer (which is
    OK for a megaproduct) for the grandkids, and
    occasionally a stolen one will find its wy
    down my gullet. When on the road, say, with
    the Shipps, I'll pick up a promising-looking
    microproduct at the Sheetz or Wawa. Those
    purchases invariably get reported on here.

    Give them some time. They might try it with tempeh instead.
    Back in around 1980 some guy in Reader's Digest
    forecast the advent of "soyrloyn stayks" (look, ma,
    it bleeds) - I like to blame such felicities on
    We're not there yet, but it's close.

    Has anyone here tried the "impossible burger"
    yet?

    Richard Condon, a much underappreciated writer, He
    then spoiled the effect by going all starry-eyed
    about a spongelike puck that got soaked in water
    and then brushed in melted butter and broiled,
    which miraculously became a real steak through the
    miracle of freeze-drying.
    The 1950s still have a lot to answer for.

    Such as myself.

    Fortunately I just put my left foot on the brake and get the
    right
    one untangled.
    Must have led to a few exciting moments.
    Here and there. Fortunately all but one in a parking lot and that
    least at almost a standstill.

    One hopes that potential disasters stay
    just potentials.

    It's already dead, isn't it.
    One hopes. Live pork in your food could make a real mess.
    That would also lead to a few exciting moments.
    Especially for the pork.

    I thought that was for Belgian stew instead of French. I suppose
    a
    bit wouldn't hurt.
    Most modern versions call for just a tad
    of tomato to brighten the flavors. Beats MSG.
    Too true. I'd have figured dried mushrooms for more authentic taste
    and similar results.

    The precursors of Bourguignon(ne) were
    probably before tomatoes arrived on the scene,
    but there were always mushrooms with their
    ample supply of glutamates.

    Here's an oddity - doesn't have tomatoes, but
    the soy sauce more than makes up for that.
    Uhmm.... words fail.
    Title: Tofu Bourguignon
    Or at least the recipe does. By way of
    atonement, here's Julia's version.
    Boeuf Bourguignon
    Done this one before.

    I've had it and reconstructed it - a few
    years ago a friend planned a Julia's
    Bourguignon(ne) party but couldn't be there,
    so I volunteered Swisher's place, and we had
    it there. I made the stuff but didn't
    consult the MAFC. People didn't notice any
    difference, or at least they didn't tell me.

    Poulet saute a la creme
    categories: French, poultry, main, dairy
    serves: 4

    1 lg frying chicken
    2 Tb butter
    1 Tb oil
    1 ts mixed herbs - thyme and tarragon
    salt and pepper
    4 Tb shallots or onions, minced
    4 oz mushrooms
    4 oz dry white wine
    1 c heavy cream
    salt and pepper
    1 Tb butter, at room temperature
    1 Tb parsley, fresh, chopped

    Cut chicken up into 2 drummers, 2 thighs,
    breast meat quartered, 2 wing drummettes, 2
    wing middle parts, top of back, lower back.
    You may cook the breast meat bones and wing
    pinions to add flavor, but you probably would
    not serve them,

    Heat butter and oil in large heavy skillet.
    Wipe chicken parts dry and add them to the
    skillet. Brown them evenly (turning with
    tongs as necessary) over high heat - as
    each piece is brown, remove it to a warm dish.
    When all pieces are done, sprinkle herbs over
    and season with salt and pepper. Return the
    drummers, back pieces, and bones (if you use
    them) to the skillet and cook them covered
    over medium-low heat for 3 min. Add the
    thighs and cook for 3 more min. Add the wing
    parts and cook for 3 min. Add the 4 breast
    pieces last and cook them for 12 min [M's
    note 2019 - 8 to 10 min], turning and basting
    the with the fat in the pan every 4 min.
    Chicken is done when the juices no longer run
    pink but yellowish or clear [M's note 2019 -
    this is baloney].

    Remove the chicken to a warm platter. If there'
    s a lot of fat in the skillet, remove some of
    it. Add the shallots or onions and the
    mushrooms and cook stirring constantly over
    medium heat for 2 min. Remove the vegetables.

    Raise heat to high, add wine and boil 30 sec,
    stirring constantly. Make sure the browned
    bits off the bottom of the pan get stirred
    into the sauce. Add cream and boil until
    sauce is the right thickness, 1 min or so,
    stirring constantly. Add the shallots and
    mushrooms. Correct seasoning. Swirl in the
    rest of the butter and the parsley and serve
    over the chicken. Good with this - a rich
    California or Australia Chardonnay.

    Julia Child, minimally adapted
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  • From RUTH HANSCHKA@1:123/140 to MICHAEL LOO on Saturday, March 16, 2019 01:45:54
    I drink soda maybe twice a year, real sugar only, so I wouldn't
    know
    either.

    When it's hot out I'll drink soda; Lilli
    buys only Diet Pepsi, so when the beer has
    run out, I'll do that. Rosemary and Bonnie
    don't do soft drinks, but Bonnie has an
    emergency supply of Mug root beer (which is
    OK for a megaproduct) for the grandkids, and
    occasionally a stolen one will find its wy
    down my gullet. When on the road, say, with
    the Shipps, I'll pick up a promising-looking
    microproduct at the Sheetz or Wawa. Those
    purchases invariably get reported on here.

    Sounds about right. I tend to head for the seltzer water.

    it bleeds) - I like to blame such felicities on
    We're not there yet, but it's close.

    Has anyone here tried the "impossible burger"
    yet?

    To dream the impossible burger? What is it, made of TVP and actually
    tastes good?

    which miraculously became a real steak through the
    miracle of freeze-drying.
    The 1950s still have a lot to answer for.

    Such as myself.

    Yeah well.

    Here and there. Fortunately all but one in a parking lot and
    that
    least at almost a standstill.

    One hopes that potential disasters stay
    just potentials.

    Me too.

    Too true. I'd have figured dried mushrooms for more authentic
    taste
    and similar results.

    The precursors of Bourguignon(ne) were
    probably before tomatoes arrived on the scene,
    but there were always mushrooms with their
    ample supply of glutamates.

    That's what I'd figure too. Tomatoes would have been something for
    the very wealthy originally and only later spread out to the masses.

    atonement, here's Julia's version.
    Boeuf Bourguignon
    Done this one before.

    I've had it and reconstructed it - a few
    years ago a friend planned a Julia's
    Bourguignon(ne) party but couldn't be there,
    so I volunteered Swisher's place, and we had
    it there. I made the stuff but didn't
    consult the MAFC. People didn't notice any
    difference, or at least they didn't tell me.

    It's a robust enough formula that you can mess with it a bit.

    Poulet saute a la creme

    4 oz dry white wine
    1 c heavy cream
    salt and pepper
    1 Tb butter, at room temperature
    1 Tb parsley, fresh, chopped
    [...]
    Julia Child, minimally adapted

    This one gets a little fussier than I can handle at the moment.

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