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    From MICHAEL LOO@1:123/140 to NANCY BACKUS on Saturday, March 09, 2019 08:58:52
    encouraged to stay, should there be such... :) The leftovers, if any,
    go home with the maker/bringer.... or get sent home with some other family/single... When we bring gluten-free bread, we send the leftovers home with the family that is more than half with celiac issues... :)
    That's fair, then - I'm mostly interested in
    the waste issue (not the waist issue), but it
    would imply a major surplus of food, if not
    mains then side dishes and sweets.
    Pretty much people at church are good about not wasting food...

    There were only a couple things at our Sunday
    joint dinner that I thought worthy of being
    left behind (gluten-free stuff), and there was
    nothing aside from maybe a couple commercially
    prepared foods that could be painlessly discarded.

    that also befall (if a disaster can be said to
    be serendipitous).
    Unplanned, anyway.... ;)
    Unplanned, unintended.
    Right.
    As are most consequences, as it turns out.
    Partly because of the nature of life and
    partly because of our being willing to make
    U-turns to try and change an outcome that
    doesn't suit us.
    Or to figure out how to make the lemonade...

    When life gives you lemons, make lemonade. When
    life gives you prunes, make do (a tagline of mine
    from the early 1990s).

    Funny, because another of its products, Kleenex
    has a good reputation that the company seems
    eager to protect.
    Yeah... strange indeed...
    Sometimes a wide range of products appears to be
    a deliberate attempt to milk different sectors
    (illusory self-competition), but in some cases
    it may be a byproduct of merger mania.
    True.
    I was poking around the Hain Celestial
    holdings and found some example of such, both
    in its own stable and in that of its major
    competitors (cf. White Wave and its Silk,
    So Delicious, and International Delight lines).
    As you say, with all the mergers, quite understandable...

    So on inquiry, it turns out that Bonnie, under
    the impression that Scottissue was the reputable
    thing it once was, bought a 24-pack (26000 sheets,
    because of two free rolls) and is gradually getting
    rid of it and henceforth will purchase no more.

    The length of the view probably has a lot to do
    with it: with long-term positions being less
    frequent, there's incentive to go for the quick
    turnover and cash flow, and the loss of
    reputation, let someone else deal with that.
    True... short-sightedness has become rather epidemic....
    And is a powerful argument, in my view, for
    nonderegulation of financial markets.
    You mean, the short-sightedness...? I'm not so sure that the regulators
    are much more long-sighted, though....

    I agree but for one thing - in regulation,
    the long view is more likely to coincide
    with the short view than what's in the
    corporate quarterly reports.

    So will B&N be pulling out of there, too....?
    No idea. Though I think I keep up a membership,
    I've not bought anything there in years. At one
    point the rebate scheme went from a flat share
    of the profits (sort of one man one vote) to a
    percentage of your input (analogous to proportional
    representation, and much fairer, but instead of
    getting a couple bucks at the end of the year I
    get zero).
    And less incentive to buy to get your rebate as well... :)

    I've not even been in the building in perhaps
    three or four years, and then only to use the
    bathroom.

    To be fair, you have to change the oil more
    frequently for onions, and it's hard to reuse
    it for frying something else afterward. Spuds
    are low on the flavor chain, so the oil can get
    reused for a wider variety of other things.
    They are even sometimes used to correct somewhat
    spoiled grease.
    Ok, I can see where that could push the price up some, and make them
    less likely to be the default....
    I'm not sure how much higher the costs are, fat
    not being all that expensive; probably the labor
    costs involved in regular oil changes is more
    considerable, though.
    That's more what I was thinking.... :)

    It might have been at a Clam Crawl, or I might
    have been with other friends, when we were at
    the Clam Box in Ipswich (my #3 favorite place
    for fried clams, where as we were approaching
    the order window, they announced a 30-minute
    hiatus for the changing of the oil. The line
    was well into the parking lot, and one can
    imagine the temptation (that Woodman's has
    apparently given in to) to just soldier on
    until closing time without an oil change,
    accommodating 30 minutes' more custom and
    enjoying the profits of that many more orders
    - perhaps one per minute or two, so quite a
    considerable amount.

    Just do a timely reminder. Actually, it should
    be quite easy, if the hosts can assure a ready
    supply of pork belly.
    We'll try to remember as the time gets closer... :)
    The squeaky wheel getting the greasy food.
    Right. :)
    That's one purpose of reunions - affinities
    become easier to find with age when the
    adolescent concerns fall away.
    Indeed... And it's turned out that there were some pretty decent people that made up the class I joined for my senior year.... :)
    For mine I anticipate seeing the same people
    I've kept in touch with all along.
    At least now I'm keeping in touch with a number of them.... :)

    That's the benefit of the long view.

    ... Gravy has 3 of the 4 food groups: salt, grease & crunchy brown bits
    What's the fourth?
    Veggies....? (G) Or more likely, protein...?

    Veggies, you have to be kidding.

    ... Skier: Someone who pays an arm and a leg to break them.

    My high-school heartthrob was 2" taller than
    me at the time, but after a lifetime of sports
    was last I saw her 2" shorter, having had knee
    replacements and other travails.

    Rigatoni all'amatriciana
    Categories: Italian, New York, pork, pasta, main
    Serves: 4 to 6

    6 oz guanciale, pancetta or bacon
    1 Tb extra-virgin olive oil
    1 lg onion. sliced 1"
    1 qt crushed tomatoes
    Kosher salt
    1 pn chili flakes
    1 lb rigatoni (or any pasta shape)
    1/4 c chopped parsley and stems
    1/2 c grated Parmigiano Reggiano

    Slice pork 1/2" thick.

    Heat oil in a large skillet, cook the
    meat over moderate heat, stirring frequently,
    until browned. Transfer to a plate. Add the
    onion and chili flakes to the skillet and
    cook over moderately high heat, stirring
    occasionally, until the onion is lightly
    browned. Return the pork to the skillet.
    Add the crushed tomatoes, season with salt
    and simmer, stirring, for 30 min.

    In a pot of salted boiling water, cook the
    pasta until al dente. Drain, reserving some
    water for sauce.

    Put pasta back into empty pot. Add the sauce
    and coat evenly over the pasta. Incorporate
    parsley and parsley stems, reserved cooking
    water (to taste) and grated cheese.

    For each serving, spread a large spoonful of
    pasta in a dinner bowl, and garnish to taste
    with Parmigiano-Reggiano cheese and parsley.

    [M's note: cut onion thinner, maybe 1/2";
    use less tomatoes, maybe half.]

    Mark Ladner, via snowehome.com
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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to MICHAEL LOO on Wednesday, March 13, 2019 17:19:00
    Quoting Michael Loo to Nancy Backus on 03-09-19 07:58 <=-

    encouraged to stay, should there be such... :) The leftovers, if any,
    go home with the maker/bringer.... or get sent home with some other family/single... When we bring gluten-free bread, we send the leftovers home with the family that is more than half with celiac issues... :)
    That's fair, then - I'm mostly interested in
    the waste issue (not the waist issue), but it
    would imply a major surplus of food, if not
    mains then side dishes and sweets.
    Pretty much people at church are good about not wasting food...
    There were only a couple things at our Sunday
    joint dinner that I thought worthy of being
    left behind (gluten-free stuff), and there was
    nothing aside from maybe a couple commercially
    prepared foods that could be painlessly discarded.

    The gluten free probably went home with those who wanted/needed that
    sort of food... and I don't recall there being much in the way of
    leftovers of any of the good stuff... :)

    Funny, because another of its products, Kleenex
    has a good reputation that the company seems
    eager to protect.
    Yeah... strange indeed...
    Sometimes a wide range of products appears to be
    a deliberate attempt to milk different sectors
    (illusory self-competition), but in some cases
    it may be a byproduct of merger mania.
    True.
    I was poking around the Hain Celestial
    holdings and found some example of such, both
    in its own stable and in that of its major
    competitors (cf. White Wave and its Silk,
    So Delicious, and International Delight lines).
    As you say, with all the mergers, quite understandable...
    So on inquiry, it turns out that Bonnie, under
    the impression that Scottissue was the reputable
    thing it once was, bought a 24-pack (26000 sheets,
    because of two free rolls) and is gradually getting
    rid of it and henceforth will purchase no more.

    We'll probably still purchase it... though it really isn't what it used
    to be.... I've noted that it no longer claims to be strong... though it
    is still septic-safe.... I also noted that now it calls itself Scott
    tissue, with the last in very small print, instead of ScotTissue...

    So will B&N be pulling out of there, too....?
    No idea. Though I think I keep up a membership,
    I've not bought anything there in years. At one
    point the rebate scheme went from a flat share
    of the profits (sort of one man one vote) to a
    percentage of your input (analogous to proportional
    representation, and much fairer, but instead of
    getting a couple bucks at the end of the year I
    get zero).
    And less incentive to buy to get your rebate as well... :)
    I've not even been in the building in perhaps
    three or four years, and then only to use the
    bathroom.

    Won't get any rebate that way, for sure... (G)

    To be fair, you have to change the oil more
    frequently for onions, and it's hard to reuse
    it for frying something else afterward. Spuds
    are low on the flavor chain, so the oil can get
    reused for a wider variety of other things.
    They are even sometimes used to correct somewhat
    spoiled grease.
    Ok, I can see where that could push the price up some, and make them
    less likely to be the default....
    I'm not sure how much higher the costs are, fat
    not being all that expensive; probably the labor
    costs involved in regular oil changes is more
    considerable, though.
    That's more what I was thinking.... :)
    It might have been at a Clam Crawl, or I might
    have been with other friends, when we were at
    the Clam Box in Ipswich (my #3 favorite place
    for fried clams, where as we were approaching
    the order window, they announced a 30-minute
    hiatus for the changing of the oil.

    I think I remember that happening on the Clam Crawl I was at...

    The line was well into the parking lot, and one
    can imagine the temptation (that Woodman's has
    apparently given in to) to just soldier on until
    closing time without an oil change, accommodating
    30 minutes' more custom and enjoying the profits
    of that many more orders - perhaps one per minute
    or two, so quite a considerable amount.

    Short-term gain, but then a loss of reputation, and eventually a loss of business, one would expect.... I appreciate the attention to quality
    that that showed... :)

    That's one purpose of reunions - affinities
    become easier to find with age when the
    adolescent concerns fall away.
    Indeed... And it's turned out that there were some pretty decent
    people that made up the class I joined for my senior year.... :)
    For mine I anticipate seeing the same people
    I've kept in touch with all along.
    At least now I'm keeping in touch with a number of them.... :)
    That's the benefit of the long view.

    Absolutely... :)

    ... Gravy has 3 of the 4 food groups: salt, grease & crunchy brown bits
    What's the fourth?
    Veggies....? (G) Or more likely, protein...?
    Veggies, you have to be kidding.

    Of course I was totally kidding... :)

    ... Skier: Someone who pays an arm and a leg to break them.
    My high-school heartthrob was 2" taller than
    me at the time, but after a lifetime of sports
    was last I saw her 2" shorter, having had knee
    replacements and other travails.

    And probably the compression of spine that happens to us all as we age, particular when female....

    ttyl neb

    ... Okay, who put a "stop payment" on my reality check?

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