• 52 happy hols + exte

    From MICHAEL LOO@1:123/140 to NANCY BACKUS on Thursday, March 07, 2019 11:14:04
    Unless you're directing all your energies
    toward social activism, I'm not suggesting
    that you go running out into the streets to
    do so but more like educating in passing and
    where the opportunity is readily found.
    Nor would I... I was thinking more of the educating in passing sometimes being more than one would have hoped it to be... :)

    In all senses no doubt.

    The concept is not all that appealing - how many
    times have I visited upstate New York, and have I
    ever had a garbage plate?
    Apparently never.... want to rectify that...? (G) Richard's had a couple of variations on it, though... and survived... ;)
    Correct. Incorrect. I usually don't choose
    food solely for its survivability!
    Indeed... that was a bit of a joke, that survival bit.... :) He may
    even have enjoyed it on occasion... :)
    I was hoping that the first part was also a
    bit of a joke. Meanwhile, I'm figuring that
    Richard was until recently one of those who
    can pound down those excess calories without
    ill effect (as I once was as well).
    Well, actually, yes.... and quite true.... he has finally moderated
    some in that ability.... ;)

    Sometimes I thought that my abilities in
    that direction were a blessing, allowing
    me to experience more different things
    than most people, but sometimes they were
    a curse - expensive, ecologically unsound,
    and hard to get out of the habit of.

    I may have seen one or the other or both... probably not in the movie
    you reference, though... ;)
    I went to the Internet and confirmed that I have
    not seen either of them on big or small screen or
    the stage, except possibly in passing on Cheers on
    the airplane.
    Ah... Cheers (infrequent as my viewing has been, and likewise in
    passing) does ring a bell there...

    Not knowing one character from the next, I
    can't tell you if I've actually seen him.

    You should see some of these recipes.
    I suspect I may not want to... (G)
    Too bad - Fred Ball appears to have found
    some, er, interesting ones.
    So I noticed.... ;)
    Some of them are fun to read, and all are
    as interesting as real recipes would be.
    Just not as tasty, should one actually try them out... ;)

    Some of them might be based on real
    food and/or might be fixable.

    Not just experimented with, it turns out. Fonio,
    a close relative of crabgrass, has been a staple
    crop in parts of Africa for centuries, and most
    of the articles I've read indicate that crabgrass
    itself was brought to the Americas as a food crop
    by European immigrants.
    Interesting. :)

    Millet is also related to crabgrass. I
    suppose that if one goes back far enough,
    all grains are related to all grasses.

    A T-bone steak has no cream and no cheese.
    It doesn't claim to be cream or cheese.... <G> It has what it claims to be.... And Richard, standing at my shoulder, says that one can put
    cream or cheese (and I add, or cream cheese) on the steak... ;)
    Just because something isn't what it pretends
    to be doesn't make it not food. Chocolate truffles
    aren't truffles and sadly sometimes have scant
    chocolate, but they're not not food (the Oregon
    ones I described try hard to achieve that state
    but fail).
    OK, so there are pretenders that turn out to have some value as food...
    not sure if there is any nutritive value left in no-fat cream cheese, though.... :)

    Who knows. Even the most gum-laden nonsense
    spread has some nutritive content.

    ... Paraffins: Found on the sides of fish
    Which leads me to ask what sort of wax job puts
    paraffin in chocolate?
    Title: Andrea Cassoni's Buckeyes
    I guess I've heard of doing such a thing, but seems a poor substitute
    for the confectioner's glaze or the pure food glaze or even the food
    quality wax (I forget the right name, but starts with an 'a') that is
    used on outside of candies...

    I'm not sure what starts with an A and coats
    candy. cArnauba?

    Cheese Things
    categories: Nullarbor, dairy, snack
    yield: 1 batch

    1/2 lb butter, room temp
    1 lb sharp grated cheese (Yahl matured is great)
    2 c plain flour
    1 ds salt
    1 ds cayenne pepper
    tabasco sauce to taste.

    Knead well all ingredients until no bits of
    cheese are visible. Divide into two or three
    parts and make into rolls the circumference
    of a cracker. Wrap in waxed paper and chill
    in refrigerator. (May be frozen at this point
    and thawed before use).

    Slice thin and bake in medium oven (350F)
    for 15 min.

    Serve fresh or store tightly covered.

    Mary Jean Jones, Woomera, SA
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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to MICHAEL LOO on Sunday, March 10, 2019 22:22:00
    Quoting Michael Loo to Nancy Backus on 03-07-19 10:14 <=-

    Indeed... that was a bit of a joke, that survival bit.... :) He may
    even have enjoyed it on occasion... :)
    I was hoping that the first part was also a bit of
    a joke. Meanwhile, I'm figuring that Richard was until
    recently one of those who can pound down those excess
    calories without ill effect (as I once was as well).
    Well, actually, yes.... and quite true.... he has finally moderated
    some in that ability.... ;)
    Sometimes I thought that my abilities in
    that direction were a blessing, allowing
    me to experience more different things
    than most people, but sometimes they were
    a curse - expensive, ecologically unsound,
    and hard to get out of the habit of.

    Pluses and minuses to most everything... ;)

    I may have seen one or the other or both... probably not in the movie
    you reference, though... ;)
    I went to the Internet and confirmed that I have
    not seen either of them on big or small screen or
    the stage, except possibly in passing on Cheers on
    the airplane.
    Ah... Cheers (infrequent as my viewing has been, and likewise in
    passing) does ring a bell there...
    Not knowing one character from the next, I
    can't tell you if I've actually seen him.

    Indeed. :)

    You should see some of these recipes.
    I suspect I may not want to... (G)
    Too bad - Fred Ball appears to have found
    some, er, interesting ones.
    So I noticed.... ;)
    Some of them are fun to read, and all are
    as interesting as real recipes would be.
    Just not as tasty, should one actually try them out... ;)
    Some of them might be based on real
    food and/or might be fixable.

    True.

    Not just experimented with, it turns out. Fonio,
    a close relative of crabgrass, has been a staple
    crop in parts of Africa for centuries, and most
    of the articles I've read indicate that crabgrass
    itself was brought to the Americas as a food crop
    by European immigrants.
    Interesting. :)
    Millet is also related to crabgrass. I
    suppose that if one goes back far enough,
    all grains are related to all grasses.

    Probably. :) I've used millet quite a bit, especially in the past...
    It made an inexpensive main dish, and mixed well with cheese... add a
    veggie like broccoli, and there's a meal....

    Just because something isn't what it pretends
    to be doesn't make it not food. Chocolate truffles
    aren't truffles and sadly sometimes have scant
    chocolate, but they're not not food (the Oregon
    ones I described try hard to achieve that state
    but fail).
    OK, so there are pretenders that turn out to have some value as food...
    not sure if there is any nutritive value left in no-fat cream cheese, though.... :)
    Who knows. Even the most gum-laden nonsense
    spread has some nutritive content.

    Some, but not necessarily enough to say so.... ;)

    ... Paraffins: Found on the sides of fish
    Which leads me to ask what sort of wax job puts
    paraffin in chocolate?
    Title: Andrea Cassoni's Buckeyes
    I guess I've heard of doing such a thing, but seems a poor substitute
    for the confectioner's glaze or the pure food glaze or even the food
    quality wax (I forget the right name, but starts with an 'a') that is
    used on outside of candies...
    I'm not sure what starts with an A and coats
    candy. cArnauba?

    There's that one... but maybe I was conflating with arabic gum, which I
    realize isn't the same thing.... goes in not on...

    ttyl neb

    ... People are cooking less but obsessing about it more. - D. Poynter

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