• 33 come, let us feas

    From MICHAEL LOO@1:123/140 to DALE SHIPP on Sunday, March 03, 2019 10:18:06
    order to produce the solidifying effect,
    there has to be enough citrus to interfere
    with the taste of the fish. But then I'm
    speaking as one who really likes raw fish,
    preferring it to cooked (except if the
    cooking is done with lots of butter).
    And you are speaking to one who does not like the idea of eating raw
    fish.

    In the 1980s in Panama that might have been
    wise, and there are recent claims that parasitic
    infection can come from eating raw fish to this
    day. I'm perfectly happy taking the parasite
    risk (though many sushi chefs use fish frozen
    enough to kill off all the worms).

    It's not cheap down there either, by
    comparison with other meats. The times they
    are a-changin', as someone famously said
    (and then someone got roasted for saying
    more recently).
    My visit there was in the mid 1980s, and as I said the ceviche was free.

    And cheap at twice the price! Back then, though
    there was plenty of fish, I wouldn't have been
    confident about the hygiene of offshore waters
    in those days - not sure I'd be so eager to eat
    totally raw Caribbean fish at that stage.

    It almost always works, so don't be concerned, but
    my own condition is still too precarious for them
    to be comfortable with my case. I may go abroad
    for it next year if it can't be done here.
    Would new lens help your condition? I did not have the impression that
    you had cataracts -- but something else.

    It's multifaceted, if you will. There is the
    traditional -14-ish myopia and astigmatism
    that keeps changing (apparently as the shape
    of the eyeball changes), then there is the
    imbalance in the number or function of the
    rods and cones as I've discussed before, then
    there's the floater issue, and then there's
    the new thing, which is cataracts. Oh, yeah,
    and dry eye.

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    Title: Beef Rib Eye Roast with Red Wine Mushroom Sauce
    Categories: Beef, Sauces
    Yield: 8 servings

    1 3 lb. boneless beef rib eye 1 tb Cornstarch
    Roast 1 cn (13 3/4 oz) single
    strength
    3/4 ts Salt,divided Beef broth
    1/2 ts Pepper,divided 1 cn (4 oz) mushroom
    pieces and
    1/2 c Chopped onion Stems, drained
    1/2 c Dry red wine 1 tb Chopped parsley

    About 1 1/2 hours before serving:Sprinkle roast with 1/2 tsp. salt and
    1/4
    tsp. pepper.Place boneless beef rib eye roast,fat side up,on rack in open
    roasting pan.Insert meat thermometer so bulb is centered in thickest
    part,but not resting in fat.Do not add water.Do not cover. Roast in 350
    degree oven to desired degree of doneness.Allow 18 to 20 minutes for
    rare;20 to 22 minutes for medium. About 15 minutes before serving,remove
    roast when meat thermometer registers 135 degrees for rare;155 degrees
    for
    medium.Tent with aluminum foil;allow roast to "stand" 15 minutes in warm
    place before carving. Roast should continue to rise about 5 degrees in
    temperature to 140 degrees for rare,160 degrees for medium. While roast
    is
    standing,remove rack from roasting pan;skim fat.Add onions to pan
    drippings;place roasting pan over medium high heat on top of range.Cook
    onions,stirring occasionally,until tender,about 3 minutes.Add wine;bring
    to
    boil;cook about 3 minutes or until thickened. Combine cornstarch and
    remaining,salt and pepper.Gradually,add beef broth to cornstarch
    mixture,stirring constantly;add to wine mixture in roasting pan.Continue
    cooking.Stir in mushrooms and parsley.Pour into serving container.Carve
    rib
    eye roast into thin slices.Serve with Red Wine and Mushroom Sauce.
    Source unknown

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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Michael Loo on Monday, March 04, 2019 03:12:06
    On 03-03-19 09:18, Michael Loo <=-
    spoke to Dale Shipp about 33 come, let us feas <=-


    order to produce the solidifying effect,
    there has to be enough citrus to interfere
    with the taste of the fish. But then I'm
    speaking as one who really likes raw fish,
    preferring it to cooked (except if the
    cooking is done with lots of butter).
    And you are speaking to one who does not like the idea of eating raw
    fish.

    In the 1980s in Panama that might have been
    wise, and there are recent claims that parasitic
    infection can come from eating raw fish to this
    day. I'm perfectly happy taking the parasite
    risk (though many sushi chefs use fish frozen
    enough to kill off all the worms).

    On a recent Chopped cooking show, the judges got horrified that one of
    the contestant chefs served raw *freshwater* fish. They refused to eat
    it, and chopped him out of the competition. That was the first time I
    had heard of a distinction between freshwater fish and saltwater fish
    with respect to parasites.

    Either way, neither Gail nor I are fond of eating raw fish.


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    Title: Panang Meatballs
    Categories: Appetizer, Thai
    Yield: 4 servings

    1 lb Ground Beef
    3 tb Flour,All-Purpose
    2 tb Vegetable Oil
    2 tb Curry Powder, Red
    2 tb Peanut Butter
    1 tb Sugar
    1 tb Nam Pla (Fish Sauce)
    1 1/2 c Coconut Milk

    Shape ground beef into 24 1-inch balls; coat lightly with flour. In
    skillet cook meatballs in hot oil 10 to 15 minutes or till brown,
    shaking pan frequently to keep meatballs round. Drain meatballs,
    reserving 1 tablespoon drippings. Add curry paste to reserved
    drippings; cook and stir over low heat for 2 to 3 minutes. Stir in
    peanut butter, sugar, and fish sauce; mix well. Add coconut milk.
    Bring to boiling; reduce heat. Add meatballs to coconut milk mixture.
    Cover; cook 3 to 5 minutes till meatballs are heated through. Serve
    with hot cooked rice.

    COCONUT MILK: Stir together 2/3 cup unsweetened grated coconut and 1
    1/3 cups boiling water; let stand 5 minutes. Place mixture in blender
    container. Cover; blend 1 minute. Makes 1 1/3 cups.

    Recipe By : Avon International Cookbook

    From: Pcharles@iastate.Edu Date: 03-14-95
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  • From FRED A BALL@1:123/140 to DALE SHIPP on Tuesday, March 05, 2019 04:40:00
    with the taste of the fish. But then I'm
    speaking as one who really likes raw fish,
    preferring it to cooked (except if the
    cooking is done with lots of butter).
    And you are speaking to one who does not like the idea of eating raw fish.

    I love to eat raw fish I eat sushi at least 3 times a month as well as
    other raw fish dishes.

    On a recent Chopped cooking show, the judges got horrified that one of DS*>the contestant chefs served raw *freshwater* fish. They refused to eat DS*>it, and chopped him out of the competition. That was the first time I DS*>had heard of a distinction between freshwater fish and saltwater fish DS*>with respect to parasites.

    Some of the judges on chopped are so wierd that I often wonder how they
    became chefs in the first place.

    Fred

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  • From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Fred A Ball on Wednesday, March 06, 2019 08:01:00
    FRED A BALL wrote to DALE SHIPP <=-

    And you are speaking to one who does not like the idea of eating raw fish.

    I love to eat raw fish I eat sushi at least 3 times a month as well
    as other raw fish dishes.

    Errrrrrmmmmmmm, Fred - sushi is rice. Raw fish is "sashimi"

    My favourite "raw" fish dish - as in uncooked, that is.

    If you don't wanna cook - just buy a jar of Vita Herring in Sour Cream
    and dig in.

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    Title: Sledz w Smietanie (Polish Herring in Sour Cream)
    Categories: Five, Seafood, Dairy, Fruits
    Yield: 4 servings

    7 oz (1 cup) herring
    1 lg Onion
    1 Apple
    1 c Sour cream

    MMMMM-------------------------TO SERVE-------------------------------
    3 (to 5) potatoes
    pn Pepper

    Cut the onion in a half and slice each half. Place
    slices in a strainer and run a pot of freshly boiled
    water through the onions to slightly soften them, and
    take the sharpness away.

    Drain the herring and cut into bite size pieces. Place
    in a mixing bowl.

    Once the onions have cooled, shred the apple and add
    both to the fish.

    Add sour cream immediately, to prevent the apple from
    turning brown. Add pepper and mix well.

    Cover and cool in the fridge for at least an hour.

    When ready to serve, boil peeled potatoes. Place hot
    potatoes on a plate and top with the cold fish mixture.

    Enjoy year-round.

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.polishyourkitchen.com

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  • From FRED A BALL@1:123/140 to DAVE DRUM on Wednesday, March 06, 2019 19:54:00
    And you are speaking to one who does not like the idea of eating ra fish.
    I love to eat raw fish I eat sushi at least 3 times a month as well as other raw fish dishes.
    Errrrrrmmmmmmm, Fred - sushi is rice. Raw fish is "sashimi"
    My favourite "raw" fish dish - as in uncooked, that is.

    If you've ever been to a restaurant that serves sushi, you've probably
    noticed sashimi on the menu and wondered, Is sashimi a type of sushi.

    While both are Japanese in origin, they're not the same dish. Here’s the difference between sushi and sashimi (and nigiri, too).

    If there's no rice, it's not sushi. Vinegar-soaked rice is the
    ingredient that makes sushi, well, sushi. The name itself means sour
    tasting due to the flavor from the vinegar, as well as the raw fish
    that's often included. While traditional sushi features raw seafood,
    it's not a component necessary to consider a dish sushi. Modern takes
    can include cooked seafood, veggies, or even other meats. Bottom line:
    Sushi doesn't need to include raw fish (or fish at all) to be considered
    suchi only vinegar rice.

    Sashimi is specifically raw and fresh seafood, like tuna or salmon. Most sashimi is made from saltwater dwellers because freshwater fish have
    higher risks of parasites. Sashimi is usually served thinly sliced on a
    bed of daikon, sans rice.

    Bottom line: Sashimi is thinly sliced raw seafood served without rice
    and is not considered a type of sushi.

    Nigiri is usually listed near sushi and sashimi on a menu, and it falls somewhere between the two dishes. Nigiri is raw seafood, similar to
    sashimi, served over hand-balled vinegared rice. Though it's a type of
    sushi (remember, it's all about the rice), nigiri doesn't include any
    extra ingredients like cucumbers or avocado.

    Bottom line: Nigiri is raw seafood served over rice and is a type of
    sushi.

    I hope this is informitive to all.


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  • From Dave Drum@1:229/452 to FRED A BALL on Thursday, March 07, 2019 13:25:34
    FRED A BALL wrote to DAVE DRUM <=-

    And you are speaking to one who does not like the idea of
    eating raw fish.

    I love to eat raw fish I eat sushi at least 3 times a month
    as well as other raw fish dishes.

    Errrrrrmmmmmmm, Fred - sushi is rice. Raw fish is "sashimi"
    My favourite "raw" fish dish - as in uncooked, that is.

    If you've ever been to a restaurant that serves sushi, you've probably noticed sashimi on the menu and wondered, Is sashimi a type of sushi.

    8<------- Looooong cribbed from the internet article snipped ------>B

    Which has bugger-all to do with "sashimi is raw fish" or "sushi is rice"
    And nigiri is a third thing entirely. You can eat a different sushi roll
    every day for a month and never have one with sashimi included.

    I hope this is informitive to all.

    Might have been - if it were accurate instead of one semi-informed (and uncredited) food writer's opinion. My statement that sushi is rice,
    sashimi is fish comes directly from Ken (Kenji) Watanabe the owner and
    head chef at Tokyo of Japan ..... one of my local Japanese venues.

    This recipe is from his cross-town competitor - Osaka Steakhouse

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Osaka Sushi Roll
    Categories: Rice, Vegetables, Herbs, Appetisers
    Yield: 40 servings (approx)

    5 c Sushi or short grain rice
    1 1/2 c Rice vinegar
    2 tb White sugar
    3 lg (to 4) eggs; beaten
    12 oz Fresh spinach; washed
    8 oz Jar pickled red ginger
    - slivers
    6 lg Dried Shiitake mushrooms
    1 oz Pkg Kampyo (dried gourd
    - strips)
    1/4 c Soy sauce
    10 Sheets nori

    SPECIAL EQUIPMENT: Bamboo sushi mat

    KAMPYO/SHIITAKE; Wash Kampyo; soak in enough water to
    cover 40 minutes, or until soft. Drain.

    Combine Shiitake and 2 1/2 cups water in medium-size
    saucepan. Let stand 20 minutes. Add softened Kampyo
    to Shiitake and liquid in saucepan. Bring to boil;
    simmer, cover 5 minutes. Stir in 1/4 cup soy sauce;
    simmer 15 minutes longer, or until Kampyo is lightly
    colored. Stir occasionally. Drain and cool; squeeze
    out liquid from Shiitake (using paper towels). Divide
    Kampyo into 10 portions, each portion being about 8-9
    inches long (the length of a Nori sheet). Remove and
    discard Shiitake stems; cut Shiitake into 1/4" thick
    slices.

    RICE: Wash rice until water runs clear; drain well.
    Combine rice and 5 cups water in large sauce pan.
    Bring to boil; reduce heat and simmer on lowest
    possible heat, cover 20-25 minutes, or until water is
    absorbed. Don't Stir!!! (stick a fork into rice to
    bottom of pan and if no water remains, it’s ready).
    Remove from heat and let stand covered for at least 10
    minutes. Rice should be on the firm side, not mushy.
    Remove 1/2 rice to large non-metal mixing bowl and let
    cool some. Pour 1/2 cup sushi rice vinegar evenly over
    top of rice and toss gently to combine. Add remaining
    rice (cooled some) and another 1/2 cup vinegar. Toss
    gently to mix. Cool.

    SPINACH: Bring washed spinach to boil in a little
    water, then lower heat and cook for several minutes.
    Drain well and let cool (it is important that as much
    water as possible is drained from the spinach - one
    way is to allow spinach to cool in a mesh strainer).
    Divide into 10 portions of strips (you may not need
    all the spinach you have cooked).

    PUTTING IT ALL TOGETHER: Unroll the bamboo sushi mat
    away from you. Place 1 sheet Nori on mat, lining it up
    with the bottom of mat. Moisten hands with a little of
    the remaining sushi rice vinegar to prevent rice from
    sticking. Place enough rice on Nori to cover 3/4 of
    the sheet and a little more than 1/2 inch thick.
    Press down with fingers (not too firmly). Over center
    of the rice, from left to right, place 1 spinach strip
    along with a Kampyo portion, 2 egg strips, and several
    Shiitake strips. Each strip should extend the length
    of the rice. Finally, add a modest amount of drained
    pickled red ginger slivers along the top of the other
    strips.

    Hold line of ingredients across rice firmly in place
    with finger tips. Using thumbs, push up and turn
    bamboo sushi mat edge nearest you up and over filling,
    pressing firmly to enclose filling, and lifting the
    bamboo mat while rolling to keep it free from being
    enclosed in the sushi roll. The idea is to get
    everything rolled before reaching the far edge of the
    Nori sheet. When sushi is rolled, gently but firmly,
    press bamboo mat around roll again, but this time to
    shape. (The art of making sushi is to get filling
    ingredients lined up in the center of the roll).
    Unroll mat and wrap sushi in plastic or aluminum wrap;
    repeat with remaining ingredients to make 10 rolls.

    TO SERVE: place rolls, seam-side down, on cutting
    surface and cut crosswise into about 8 equal slices.
    (Refrigeration will cause sushi to dry out, so eat).

    RECIPE FROM: Osaka Japanese Steakhouse - 1655 Wabash
    Ave. Springfield, IL 62704 (217) 726-8037

    Published in Ala Carte Recipes; State Journal-Register
    (https://www.sj-r.com)

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  • From Kurt Weiske@1:218/700 to FRED A BALL on Thursday, March 07, 2019 10:35:00
    FRED A BALL wrote to DAVE DRUM <=-

    Bottom line: Nigiri is raw seafood served over rice and is a type of sushi.

    I hope this is informitive to all.

    There's a great podcast called 'Eat this Globe'. In one of the archived
    shows, the host delves into the history of sushi, from its beginnings as a
    way to preserve raw fish, to the invention of nigiri sushi and the popularization of sushi and sashimi in US culture. Definitely worth a
    listen.





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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to MICHAEL LOO on Thursday, March 07, 2019 21:23:00
    Quoting Michael Loo to Dale Shipp on 03-03-19 09:18 <=-

    It almost always works, so don't be concerned, but
    my own condition is still too precarious for them
    to be comfortable with my case. I may go abroad
    for it next year if it can't be done here.
    Would new lens help your condition? I did not have the impression that
    you had cataracts -- but something else.
    It's multifaceted, if you will. There is the
    traditional -14-ish myopia and astigmatism
    that keeps changing (apparently as the shape
    of the eyeball changes),

    Yup, the shape of the eyeball affects the astigmatism (I've got that,
    too)....

    then there is the
    imbalance in the number or function of the
    rods and cones as I've discussed before, then
    there's the floater issue, and then there's
    the new thing, which is cataracts. Oh, yeah,
    and dry eye.

    And that last also affects astigmatism (yup, have the dry eye, too)...

    Are they concerned about all the other things going on in your eyes, or
    is it just the heart issues and such that make you not a good candidate
    for surgery in general....?

    1 3 lb. boneless beef rib eye Roast

    You are rubbing off on me.... I read that as homeless first... and then
    the eyes adjusted... (G)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Dave Drum@1:229/452 to Kurt Weiske on Friday, March 08, 2019 14:45:12
    Kurt Weiske wrote to FRED A BALL <=-

    Bottom line: Nigiri is raw seafood served over rice and is a type of sushi.

    I hope this is informitive to all.

    There's a great podcast called 'Eat this Globe'. In one of the archived shows, the host delves into the history of sushi, from its beginnings
    as a way to preserve raw fish, to the invention of nigiri sushi and the popularization of sushi and sashimi in US culture. Definitely worth a listen.

    What's the main difference between sushi then and sushi now?

    For the bonus question (worth two extra points) where/when did sushi originate?

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    Title: Chicken Bacon "Sushi"
    Categories: Five, Appetisers, Poultry, Pork, Cheese
    Yield: 20 Servings

    1 lb Bacon slices
    1 lb Ground chicken
    1 tb BBQ chicken seasoning
    3 sl Havarti cheese

    Set oven @ 425°F/218°C.

    Measure out a 20" square piece of parchment paper on
    a baking sheet.

    Lay out slices of bacon side-by-side, overlapping
    slightly, to create an even layer on the parchment
    paper.

    Combine ground chicken with barbeque seasoning; spread
    evenly onto the bacon layer from edge to edge. Place
    Havarti cheese slices lengthwise on top. Lift the
    parchment paper to help you roll a log, starting with
    the edge of bacon closest to you.

    Bake, rotating baking sheet every 15 minutes, until
    bacon is crispy and chicken is cooked through.

    Remove from oven and cool until easily handled, about
    15 minutes. Slice into bite-sized "sushi".

    Recipe By: Dean Weldon

    RECIPE FROM: http://allrecipes.com

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  • From Kurt Weiske@1:218/700 to Dave Drum on Friday, March 08, 2019 18:38:00
    Re: raw fish
    By: Dave Drum to Kurt Weiske on Fri Mar 08 2019 01:45 pm

    What's the main difference between sushi then and sushi now?

    Sushi then used the vinegar and fermentation of rice to preserve the fish; sushi was packed tightly in a box and pressed with a weighted lid to help preserve the raw fish and allow it to last without spoiling.
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  • From Dave Drum@1:229/452 to Kurt Weiske on Saturday, March 09, 2019 12:39:56
    Kurt Weiske wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    What's the main difference between sushi then and sushi now?

    Sushi then used the vinegar and fermentation of rice to preserve the
    fish; sushi was packed tightly in a box and pressed with a weighted lid
    to help preserve the raw fish and allow it to last without spoiling.

    So the fish is not really "sashimi" then. IOW there is bugger-all to
    choose between that fish and Norwegian pickled herrings. And very little distance between that fermented fish and fish sauce/garum.

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    Title: Pickled Herring
    Categories: Seafood, Vegetables, Preserving
    Yield: 6 Servings

    Herring filets
    Onions; sliced
    1 Bay leaf
    1 tb Vegetable oil
    1 ts Sugar
    1/2 c (to 3/4 c) vinegar
    1 c Cold water

    Soak herring for 3 or 4 hours in cold water. Wash in
    cold water and cut into cubes. Prepare a marinade with
    the remaining ingredients and marinate for 2 days.

    Drain and serve.

    From The Cookie Lady's Files

    From: http://www.recipesource.com

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    Title: Garum
    Categories: Sauces, Seafood, Herbs
    Yield: 3 Servings

    560 g Black olives; stoned
    16 Anchovy filets; soaked in
    - water for 1 hour and
    - patted dry
    1 lg Hard-boiled egg yolk
    90 g Capers
    1 cl Garlic; fine chopped
    1 ts Grainy mustard
    1 tb Fresh parsley; fine chopped
    1 tb Fresh marjoram; fine chopped
    1 tb Fresh rosemary; fine chopped
    1 tb Fresh thyme; fine chopped
    1 ts White pepper
    60 ml Olive oil

    Mix all ingredients together in blender or food processor
    until light and fluffy. Puree the mixture in a food mill or
    push it through a sieve with a wooden spoon. Return to the
    blender or food processor and process briefly to obtain a
    smooth paste.

    Note: Do not substitute fresh herbs with dry as they will
    not puree properly, either omit, experiment with other fresh
    herbs, or increase the amounts of parsley.

    Recipe by Joseph Mercader

    From: http://www.pompeii-food-and-drink.org

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  • From Kurt Weiske@1:218/700 to Dave Drum on Saturday, March 09, 2019 09:02:00
    Dave Drum wrote to Kurt Weiske <=-


    Sushi then used the vinegar and fermentation of rice to preserve the
    fish; sushi was packed tightly in a box and pressed with a weighted lid
    to help preserve the raw fish and allow it to last without spoiling.

    So the fish is not really "sashimi" then. IOW there is bugger-all to choose between that fish and Norwegian pickled herrings. And very
    little distance between that fermented fish and fish sauce/garum.

    My family's Swedish, and we have Sil (pickled herring) at my mom's
    traditional Christmas smorgasbords. Sil, sprig of Dill, put it on a slice
    of brown bread, then wash it down with a shot of Akvavit. Repeat.




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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to DAVE DRUM on Saturday, March 09, 2019 22:49:00
    Quoting Dave Drum to Fred A Ball on 03-06-19 07:01 <=-
    FRED A BALL wrote to DALE SHIPP <=-

    And you are speaking to one who does not like the idea of eating raw fish.

    I love to eat raw fish I eat sushi at least 3 times a month as well
    as other raw fish dishes.

    Errrrrrmmmmmmm, Fred - sushi is rice. Raw fish is "sashimi"

    Sushi is rice... but it also refers to the fish and other comestibles
    placed in and on that rice... Nigiri sushi is on the rice, roll sushi
    has the stuff rolled into the rice.... Sashimi is the raw fish not
    placed on the rice but by itself... Chirashi is the raw fish placed on
    top of a bowl of sushi rice....

    My favourite "raw" fish dish - as in uncooked, that is.
    If you don't wanna cook - just buy a jar of Vita Herring in Sour Cream
    and dig in.

    That's a different kettle... ;)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Kurt Weiske on Sunday, March 10, 2019 06:40:00
    Kurt Weiske wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Sushi then used the vinegar and fermentation of rice to preserve the
    fish; sushi was packed tightly in a box and pressed with a weighted lid
    to help preserve the raw fish and allow it to last without spoiling.

    So the fish is not really "sashimi" then. IOW there is bugger-all to choose between that fish and Norwegian pickled herrings. And very
    little distance between that fermented fish and fish sauce/garum.

    My family's Swedish, and we have Sil (pickled herring) at my mom's traditional Christmas smorgasbords. Sil, sprig of Dill, put it on a
    slice of brown bread, then wash it down with a shot of Akvavit. Repeat.

    Keep at that Akavit and the Sil soon turns to silly.

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    Title: Silly Carrots
    Categories: Vegetables, Soups
    Yield: 6 Servings

    2 lb Carrots; peeled, sliced
    10 3/4 oz Can tomato soup
    3/4 c Sugar
    3/4 c Wine vinegar
    1/4 c Oil
    1 ts Prepared mustard
    1 lg Onion; diced
    1 md Green bell pepper; diced
    4 Ribs celery; diced
    Salt & pepper

    Cook carrots in boiling water just until tender. Drain
    and set aside. Combine soup, sugar, vinegar, oil, mustard,
    onion, green pepper and celery. Season to taste with salt
    and pepper. Heat and stir to boiling. Reduce heat and
    simmer for 10 minutes. Pour over drained carrots.

    Serving Ideas: Serve hot or refrigerate for salad.

    A "My Best Recipe" winner, 1981.

    Recipe from: http://www.recipesource.com

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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to NANCY BACKUS on Sunday, March 10, 2019 06:50:00
    NANCY BACKUS wrote to DAVE DRUM <=-

    And you are speaking to one who does not like the idea of eating raw fish.

    I love to eat raw fish I eat sushi at least 3 times a month as well
    as other raw fish dishes.

    Errrrrrmmmmmmm, Fred - sushi is rice. Raw fish is "sashimi"

    Sushi is rice... but it also refers to the fish and other comestibles placed in and on that rice... Nigiri sushi is on the rice, roll sushi
    has the stuff rolled into the rice.... Sashimi is the raw fish not
    placed on the rice but by itself... Chirashi is the raw fish placed on
    top of a bowl of sushi rice....

    Oh, I know. Those hairs are often split longitudinally. But, at the base
    it's as Brother Watanabe told me.

    My favourite "raw" fish dish - as in uncooked, that is.
    If you don't wanna cook - just buy a jar of Vita Herring in Sour
    Cream and dig in.

    That's a different kettle... ;)

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    Title: Stir Crazy Kettle Corn
    Categories: Five, Snacks, Corn
    Yield: 5 Servings

    1/2 c Popcorn
    1/2 c Sugar
    1/2 c Oil
    Salt

    I LOVE kettle corn, and after much experimentation, I
    have created the perfect recipe for home-made kettle
    corn by using my favorite popcorn-making device--the
    Stir Crazy Popcorn Popper.

    Make sure your Stir Crazy Popcorn Popper is turned off.

    Using your Stir Crazy Popcorn Popper, combine ingredients
    on the non-stick surface of the machine.

    Cover the Stir Crazy Popcorn Popper with the bowl
    provided by Stir Crazy.

    Turn on Stir Crazy Popcorn Popper.

    Watch the popcorn pop! It's fun!

    When only 3 seconds remain in between pops, flip Stir
    Crazy Popcorn Popper over to yield a big bowl of kettle
    corn.

    Salt to your liking!

    SERVES 4-6; 1 large bowl of kettle corn

    From: http://www.recipezaar.com

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  • From JIM WELLER@1:123/140 to DALE SHIPP on Sunday, March 17, 2019 21:30:00

    Quoting Dale Shipp to Michael Loo <=-

    sushi chefs use fish frozen enough to kill off all the worms

    On a recent Chopped cooking show, the judges got horrified that one of
    the contestant chefs served raw *freshwater* fish. They refused to
    eat it, and chopped him out of the competition. That was the first
    time I had heard of a distinction between freshwater fish and saltwater fish with respect to parasites.

    Fresh water fish (and salmon which spend part of their lives in
    fresh water) are prone to more worm infections than salt water fish
    and are higher risk. As well, with the exception of walleye, they
    don't have as good a taste or texture. I've made raw, never frozen,
    walleye sashimi but I slice the fillets very thinly and examine them
    closely by "candling" them.

    Either way, neither Gail nor I are fond of eating raw fish.

    I, OTOH, do like sushi, sashimi, ceviche, cold smoked and salted,
    dried fish.

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    Title: Lithuanian Dried Smelts and Other Small Fish
    Categories: Lithuanian, Fish
    Yield: 4 servings

    Smelt

    Fish are cleaned and blotted dry. A dry marinade is prepared with
    black pepper, bay leaves and much salt. Rub fish with dry marinade
    and keep fish in marinade for 48 hours. Then scrape off marinade.
    Blot fish and thread fish through eyes on wire or string and hang in
    the sun, in a windy spot.

    The fish can also be dried in an oven on low heat.

    Such dried fish are eaten cold. They are also used to make fish
    chowders.

    Lithuanian National Cultural Center
    From: http://www.lnkc.lt
    Compiled by Birute Imbrasiene
    Translated by Giedre Ambrozaitiene

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  • From JIM WELLER@1:123/140 to DAVE DRUM on Tuesday, March 19, 2019 22:45:00

    Quoting Dave Drum to Fred A Ball <=-

    I love to eat raw fish I eat sushi at least 3 times a month
    as well as other raw fish dishes.

    Fred - sushi is rice. Raw fish is "sashimi"

    Sure. We all know that. But sushi is more often topped with or
    filled with raw fish than any other ingredient.

    And nigiri is a third thing entirely.

    Nigiri is most definitely a variety of sushi.


    Cheers

    Jim


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  • From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Jim Weller on Thursday, March 21, 2019 06:34:00
    JIM WELLER wrote to DAVE DRUM <=-

    I love to eat raw fish I eat sushi at least 3 times a month
    as well as other raw fish dishes.

    Fred - sushi is rice. Raw fish is "sashimi"

    Sure. We all know that. But sushi is more often topped with or
    filled with raw fish than any other ingredient.

    My point being that sushi does not equal raw fish. One can have sushi
    without sashimi. And sashimi without sushi.

    And nigiri is a third thing entirely.

    Nigiri is most definitely a variety of sushi.

    The correct term is nigiri-zushi .... and it's a third thing because it *requires* sashimi (usually fish) on top of the sushi.

    Words mean things.

    I have eaten this particular sushi .... it's decent.

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    Title: Osaka Sushi Roll
    Categories: Rice, Vegetables, Herbs, Appetisers
    Yield: 48 Servings

    5 c Sushi or short grain rice
    1 1/2 c Rice vinegar
    2 tb White sugar
    3 lg (to 4) eggs; beaten
    12 oz Fresh spinach; washed
    8 oz Jar pickled red ginger
    - slivers
    6 lg Dried Shiitake mushrooms
    1 oz Pkg Kampyo (dried gourd
    - strips)
    1/4 c Soy sauce
    10 Sheets nori

    SPECIAL EQUIPMENT: Bamboo sushi mat

    KAMPYO/SHIITAKE; Wash Kampyo; soak in enough water to
    cover 40 minutes, or until soft. Drain.

    Combine Shiitake and 2 1/2 cups water in medium-size
    saucepan. Let stand 20 minutes. Add softened Kampyo
    to Shiitake and liquid in saucepan. Bring to boil;
    simmer, cover 5 minutes. Stir in 1/4 cup soy sauce;
    simmer 15 minutes longer, or until Kampyo is lightly
    colored. Stir occasionally. Drain and cool; squeeze
    out liquid from Shiitake (using paper towels). Divide
    Kampyo into 10 portions, each portion being about 8-9
    inches long (the length of a Nori sheet). Remove and
    discard Shiitake stems; cut Shiitake into 1/4" thick
    slices.

    RICE: Wash rice until water runs clear; drain well.
    Combine rice and 5 cups water in large sauce pan.
    Bring to boil; reduce heat and simmer on lowest
    possible heat, cover 20-25 minutes, or until water is
    absorbed. Don't Stir!!! (stick a fork into rice to
    bottom of pan and if no water remains, it's ready).
    Remove from heat and let stand covered for at least 10
    minutes. Rice should be on the firm side, not mushy.
    Remove 1/2 rice to large non-metal mixing bowl and let
    cool some. Pour 1/2 cup sushi rice vinegar evenly over
    top of rice and toss gently to combine. Add remaining
    rice (cooled some) and another 1/2 cup vinegar. Toss
    gently to mix. Cool.

    SPINACH: Bring washed spinach to boil in a little
    water, then lower heat and cook for several minutes.
    Drain well and let cool (it is important that as much
    water as possible is drained from the spinach - one
    way is to allow spinach to cool in a mesh strainer).
    Divide into 10 portions of strips (you may not need
    all the spinach you have cooked).

    PUTTING IT ALL TOGETHER: Unroll the bamboo sushi mat
    away from you. Place 1 sheet Nori on mat, lining it up
    with the bottom of mat. Moisten hands with a little of
    the remaining sushi rice vinegar to prevent rice from
    sticking. Place enough rice on Nori to cover 3/4 of
    the sheet and a little more than 1/2 inch thick.
    Press down with fingers (not too firmly). Over center
    of the rice, from left to right, place 1 spinach strip
    along with a Kampyo portion, 2 egg strips, and several
    Shiitake strips. Each strip should extend the length
    of the rice. Finally, add a modest amount of drained
    pickled red ginger slivers along the top of the other
    strips.

    Hold line of ingredients across rice firmly in place
    with finger tips. Using thumbs, push up and turn
    bamboo sushi mat edge nearest you up and over filling,
    pressing firmly to enclose filling, and lifting the
    bamboo mat while rolling to keep it free from being
    enclosed in the sushi roll. The idea is to get
    everything rolled before reaching the far edge of the
    Nori sheet. When sushi is rolled, gently but firmly,
    press bamboo mat around roll again, but this time to
    shape. (The art of making sushi is to get filling
    ingredients lined up in the center of the roll).
    Unroll mat and wrap sushi in plastic or aluminum wrap;
    repeat with remaining ingredients to make 10 rolls.

    TO SERVE: place rolls, seam-side down, on cutting
    surface and cut crosswise into about 8 equal slices.
    (Refrigeration will cause sushi to dry out, so eat).

    RECIPE FROM: Osaka Japanese Steakhouse - 1655 Wabash
    Ave. Springfield, IL 62704 (217) 726-8037

    Published in Ala Carte Recipes; State Journal-Register
    (https://www.sj-r.com)

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  • From JIM WELLER@1:123/140 to DAVE DRUM on Saturday, March 23, 2019 21:57:00

    Quoting Dave Drum to Jim Weller <=-

    nigiri is a third thing entirely.

    Nigiri is most definitely a variety of sushi.

    it's a third thing because it *requires* sashimi (usually fish)
    on top of the sushi.

    Sashimi isn't merely raw fish; it's very thinly sliced raw fish (and
    rarely but occasionally raw meat) arranged artfully in ornate
    patterns on a plate. The raw fish topping draped over a shari ball
    called a neta or tane to make nigirizushi is s single piece cut
    fairly thick.

    Words mean things.

    Indeed.



    Cheers

    Jim

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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to JIM WELLER on Sunday, March 24, 2019 19:21:00
    JIM WELLER wrote to DAVE DRUM <=-


    nigiri is a third thing entirely.

    Nigiri is most definitely a variety of sushi.

    it's a third thing because it *requires* sashimi (usually fish)
    on top of the sushi.

    Sashimi isn't merely raw fish; it's very thinly sliced raw fish (and rarely but occasionally raw meat) arranged artfully in ornate
    patterns on a plate. The raw fish topping draped over a shari ball
    called a neta or tane to make nigirizushi is s single piece cut
    fairly thick.

    And there are those who will pedantically assign unique names to all
    manner of makes-no-never-mind things. Screw that. If it tastes good,
    eat it. If it doesn't taste good, spit it out.

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    Title: Rumaki #1
    Categories: Oriental, Appetizers, Poultry, Pork
    Yield: 12 Servings

    1 lb Chicken Livers
    8 oz Water chestnuts; drained
    12 sl Bacon
    1/4 c Soy Sauce
    1/2 ts Ginger; powdered
    1/2 ts Chinese 5-Spice Powder
    +=OR=+
    1/2 ts Curry Powder

    Cut the chicken livers in half or into large chunks.
    Cut the largest chestnuts in half. Cut the bacon
    strips in half, crosswise. Wrap a piece of bacon
    around pieces of liver and chestnuts, securing the
    ends with a toothpick. Place in a shallow pie plate as
    you make them.

    Combine the soy sauce with spices and pour over the
    rumaki; refrigerate about 1/2 hour before serving.

    Preheat the grill or broiler and broil the rumaki
    until the bacon is crisp, about 20 minutes, turning
    to brown on all sides.

    Serve hot with sweet and sour sauce and Chinese
    mustard dipping sauces.

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