Some conjectures are better than others, and
computers have made it much easier to reverse
engineer things, and that might be true in the
world of psychology as well.

Possibly... although I don't know that much has been properly defined
when it comes to cat psychology... ;) Human psychology is devious
enough as it is... ;)

Unless we really screw up, there will be centuries,
perhaps millennia, for further investigation.

I'd tend to think that it's being more noticed and passed along

with the

ready availability of the cellphone cameras and textability...

It is in our best interest to quash such behaviors.

And how do you propose to do that...? ;)

Kill the geniuses off.

I'd bet that the real genius animals are staying well out of harm's
way... and cursing the idiot semi-geniuses that are bringing their
talents to the attention of the humans.... ;)

Not so sure about that - that seems to require a
level of consciousness that we are unwilling to
grant them. First they have to realize that
sticking out like that is a risky business, and
then they have to identify the source and magnitude
of the potential threat (us).

There was a big old tree of ripening fruit
right nearby - the one I investigated in
light of Dale's suggestion that they might
be tangelos, but it turned out they were a
variety of ordinary navels but were among
the most excellent I've ever had.

I much prefer the navels to tangelos anyway.... :) Sounds like the

For me it depends on the individual orange.

squirrels have plenty to choose from, so ignoring a wayward one (unless
they wanted the challenge) seems a reasonable thing... ;)

I don't know - even we often fixate on something
lost or hard to get when there are lots of easier
to acquire things that are just as good.

aware of such if it were I... :) It's been properly excised now...?

On her back. Yep, it's gone now, but there's a
BCC they hadn't noticed before. Luckily, the
melanoma does not seem to have spread much, and
BCCs are likely not to.

Sounds promising...

One keeps one's hopes up.

I'd vote for gentleness of slope... I think.... ;)

For me, the falling off a cliff has more
appeal, if the cliff is high enough and
steep enough.

It rarely is high or steep enough... so gentle is preferable... ;)
Fewer consequences to have to deal with.... ;l

Hard to plot the suffering over time curve
and to quantify the aggregate trouble. Maybe
it's as simple as trying to minimize (pain+
terror) x time; maybe not. I'm inclined to
cheat when the time comes and wonder quite
seriously what would have happened by now
if I'd taken the hospice route rather than
the extreme measures one.

Sad. As I said, I'm just as glad we don't have it here...

Even the generally left-leaning Huffington Post went
out of its way to defend the company in a singularly
disingenuous and stupid article about five years ago.

Protecting one of their own, perhaps....?

Possibly, but that assumes that it hews to a
party line considerably more than it should.

I've been talking about this issue since the company
was just a baby. The now-becoming-universally-apparent
predatory practices were clear to me decades ago, so
why didn't other sensible people notice until the root
of all things convenient and of all things evil took
over the enterprise?

There are none so blind as those that will not (or refuse to) see....?

Well, we'll see about what Amazon ends up
doing in the labor relations department. So
far, things look pretty dubious.

Lola, the obnoxious one, I'd say it right
to her face.

She probably didn't believe you'd follow thru... ;0

I don't think she would have tasted good enough
anyway.

That's what saves our cats... or so we tell them... ;)

They know you're kidding ... I'm not so
sure about me, though.

I'm sad to admit that Other Ruth's fatalism
is likely well justified here.

Indeed. What one can't do anything about, though, one just can't...

Say hello back, and I'll eventually be in
touch by e-mail.

I will... I'm hoping to get to calling them soon... we'll see... :)

Keep reporting back.

Will do. I'd tried a couple of nights ago and only got the answer
box... Burt called me today, returning the call... :) He's doing ok,
playing golf once a week now (found that twice a week was too much), generally getting around ok.. Shirley is stronger than she was, but
still sleeps a lot... She was taking a nap when he called me, so we
didn't settle details for meeting sometime soon for lunch or supper,
but we've got that on the burner now... They hadn't signed up for coach trips for the summer until just the last few days, so are waiting to see
if there are still spaces on the ones they finally chose...

The tyranny of nonrefundable deposits, I suppose.

I mentioned to Burt the tentatively forming plans for this year's
picnic... sounds like they'd like to be there, if it's close enough for them... I'm willing to facilitate that, I guess... ;)

We have competing interests at work here, given
the southerners. I would dearly like to get the
Fords to have another picnic or two, though.

... Washington is a city of Southern efficiency and Northern charm. -- JFK

... that pretends to the reverse.

Pork & Vegetable Soba Stir-Fry
cateories: fusion, pasta, main, Singaporean
servings: 2

300 g pork loin
250 g baby boy choy
1 sm red capsicum, julienned
2 md carrots, julienned
5 cloves garlic, minced
1 Tb sesame oil
1 Tb canola oil
a handful soba noodles
sesame seeds for garnishing
h - marinade
2 Tb oyster sauce
2 ts light soy
1 ts sugar
1 Tb mirin
1 ds pepper

Mix marinade ingredients well. Slice pork into
convenient pieces and and marinate in mixture.

Separate bok choy leaves and stalks and cut
in half lengthwise.

Boil noodles in salted water till 2 min before
instructed cooking time.

Fry garlic in sesame-canola oil on medium heat
till fragrant, about 35 sec. Add bok choy stems,
fry 1 min. Increase heat to high and add carrots,
tossing 1 min. Add peppers, fry 1 min. Add bok
choy leaves, fry for 1 min.

Add pork and all of its marinade, toss through
until just cooked, about 2 min.

Add soba noodles, toss.

Salt to taste and garnish with sesame seeds.

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Quoting Michael Loo to Nancy Backus on 05-12-18 06:02 <=-

Some conjectures are better than others, and
computers have made it much easier to reverse
engineer things, and that might be true in the
world of psychology as well.

Possibly... although I don't know that much has been properly defined
when it comes to cat psychology... ;) Human psychology is devious
enough as it is... ;)

Unless we really screw up, there will be centuries,
perhaps millennia, for further investigation.

But likely we won't be around to know about it... :)

I'd tend to think that it's being more noticed and passed along
with the ready availability of the cellphone cameras and textability...

It is in our best interest to quash such behaviors.

And how do you propose to do that...? ;)

Kill the geniuses off.

I'd bet that the real genius animals are staying well out of harm's
way... and cursing the idiot semi-geniuses that are bringing their
talents to the attention of the humans.... ;)

Not so sure about that - that seems to require a
level of consciousness that we are unwilling to
grant them. First they have to realize that
sticking out like that is a risky business, and
then they have to identify the source and magnitude
of the potential threat (us).

If that's far-fetched, then I'd think that the idea that they are
learning how to dump humans into reach intentionally is likewise not all
that likely... :)

There was a big old tree of ripening fruit
right nearby - the one I investigated in
light of Dale's suggestion that they might
be tangelos, but it turned out they were a
variety of ordinary navels but were among
the most excellent I've ever had.

I much prefer the navels to tangelos anyway.... :)

For me it depends on the individual orange.

I've had more excellent navels than I have had tangelos.... but yes,
excellence does tend to be more on the individual level... :)

Sounds like the squirrels have plenty to choose from, so ignoring a
wayward one (unless they wanted the challenge) seems a reasonable
thing... ;)

I don't know - even we often fixate on something
lost or hard to get when there are lots of easier
to acquire things that are just as good.

But I WANT the two in the bush... (G)

aware of such if it were I... :) It's been properly excised now...?

On her back. Yep, it's gone now, but there's a
BCC they hadn't noticed before. Luckily, the
melanoma does not seem to have spread much, and
BCCs are likely not to.

Sounds promising...

One keeps one's hopes up.

Indeed. :)

I'd vote for gentleness of slope... I think.... ;)

For me, the falling off a cliff has more
appeal, if the cliff is high enough and
steep enough.

It rarely is high or steep enough... so gentle is preferable... ;)
Fewer consequences to have to deal with.... ;l

Hard to plot the suffering over time curve
and to quantify the aggregate trouble. Maybe
it's as simple as trying to minimize (pain+
terror) x time; maybe not. I'm inclined to
cheat when the time comes and wonder quite
seriously what would have happened by now
if I'd taken the hospice route rather than
the extreme measures one.

No real way to tell now... you might have managed to survive well
nonetheless, and confounded the staff... or we might now be missing you indeed... I'm just as glad you're still around.... ;)

Sad. As I said, I'm just as glad we don't have it here...

Even the generally left-leaning Huffington Post went
out of its way to defend the company in a singularly
disingenuous and stupid article about five years ago.

Protecting one of their own, perhaps....?

Possibly, but that assumes that it hews to a
party line considerably more than it should.

Hard to say... :)

I've been talking about this issue since the company
was just a baby. The now-becoming-universally-apparent
predatory practices were clear to me decades ago, so
why didn't other sensible people notice until the root
of all things convenient and of all things evil took
over the enterprise?

There are none so blind as those that will not (or refuse to) see....?

Well, we'll see about what Amazon ends up
doing in the labor relations department. So
far, things look pretty dubious.

One can hope for the best... but I guess I'm not all that hopeful,
either...

Lola, the obnoxious one, I'd say it right
to her face.

She probably didn't believe you'd follow thru... ;0

I don't think she would have tasted good enough
anyway.

That's what saves our cats... or so we tell them... ;)

They know you're kidding ... I'm not so
sure about me, though.

As a former pastor of ours used to say, somewhat jocularly, I'm only
half kidding.... ;)

Say hello back, and I'll eventually be in
touch by e-mail.

I will... I'm hoping to get to calling them soon... we'll see... :)

Keep reporting back.

Will do. I'd tried a couple of nights ago and only got the answer
box... Burt called me today, returning the call... :) He's doing ok, playing golf once a week now (found that twice a week was too much), generally getting around ok.. Shirley is stronger than she was, but
still sleeps a lot... She was taking a nap when he called me, so we
didn't settle details for meeting sometime soon for lunch or supper,
but we've got that on the burner now... They hadn't signed up for coach trips for the summer until just the last few days, so are waiting to see
if there are still spaces on the ones they finally chose...

The tyranny of nonrefundable deposits, I suppose.

Seemed to be more the tyranny of procrastination... ;) Burt was saying
they just kept not getting around to it...

I mentioned to Burt the tentatively forming plans for this year's
picnic... sounds like they'd like to be there, if it's close enough for them... I'm willing to facilitate that, I guess... ;)

We have competing interests at work here, given
the southerners. I would dearly like to get the
Fords to have another picnic or two, though.

Dale seems to be pushing for having it nearish Newark this year... and
it seems as though it might not be too hard to have it fall into
place...

... Washington is a city of Southern efficiency and Northern charm. -- JFK

... that pretends to the reverse.

True.... except I think JFK nailed it... ;)

ttyl neb

... What kind of animal is a contention? I hear about bones being found.

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