• 30 was overflow + Co

    From MICHAEL LOO@1:123/140 to NANCY BACKUS on Friday, March 01, 2019 16:11:38
    If there's substantial participation, that
    guarantees lots of extra food, a situation
    one may or may not want (depending on the
    disposition of the leftovers).
    There's generally enough people not making the main dishes that it's
    good to have the wide margin, especially since visitors are also
    encouraged to stay, should there be such... :) The leftovers, if any,
    go home with the maker/bringer.... or get sent home with some other family/single... When we bring gluten-free bread, we send the leftovers
    home with the family that is more than half with celiac issues... :)

    That's fair, then - I'm mostly interested in
    the waste issue (not the waist issue), but it
    would imply a major surplus of food, if not
    mains then side dishes and sweets.

    It's serendipitous, as are many of the disasters
    that also befall (if a disaster can be said to
    be serendipitous).
    Unplanned, anyway.... ;)
    Unplanned, unintended.
    Right.

    As are most consequences, as it turns out.
    Partly because of the nature of life and
    partly because of our being willing to make
    U-turns to try and change an outcome that
    doesn't suit us.

    Which I was careful not to get.... Basically, then, it's a new knockoff, but thinks to get away with using the good name of the original... Not unlike the Scottissue you and Ruth have been discussing... it's not been the same since KimberleyClark took it over.... been going downhill ever since.....
    Funny, because another of its products, Kleenex
    has a good reputation that the company seems
    eager to protect.
    Yeah... strange indeed...

    Sometimes a wide range of products appears
    to be a deliberate attempt to milk different
    sectors (illusory self-competition), but in
    some cases it may be a byproduct of merger
    mania. I was poking around the Hain Celestial
    holdings and found some example of such, both
    in its own stable and in that of its major
    competitors (cf. White Wave and its Silk,
    So Delicious, and International Delight lines).

    No, only if it was perceived to do so... Instead, people will
    eventually just stop buying it, and there will be less dollars produced.....
    The length of the view probably has a lot to do
    with it: with long-term positions being less
    frequent, there's incentive to go for the quick
    turnover and cash flow, and the loss of
    reputation, let someone else deal with that.
    True... short-sightedness has become rather epidemic....

    And is a powerful argument, in my view, for
    nonderegulation of financial markets.

    it's been a half-century survival, better
    than a lot of enterprises.
    Indeed.
    Turns out that for the last decades it's been
    run by Barnes & Noble as well, though it's still
    a cooperative, returning the profits to the
    membership as described before.
    So will B&N be pulling out of there, too....?

    No idea. Though I think I keep up a membership,
    I've not bought anything there in years. At one
    point the rebate scheme went from a flat share
    of the profits (sort of one man one vote) to a
    percentage of your input (analogous to proportional
    representation, and much fairer, but instead of
    getting a couple bucks at the end of the year I
    get zero).

    To be fair, you have to change the oil more
    frequently for onions, and it's hard to reuse
    it for frying something else afterward. Spuds
    are low on the flavor chain, so the oil can get
    reused for a wider variety of other things.
    They are even sometimes used to correct somewhat
    spoiled grease.
    Ok, I can see where that could push the price up some, and make them
    less likely to be the default....

    I'm not sure how much higher the costs are, fat
    not being all that expensive; probably the labor
    costs involved in regular oil changes is more
    considerable, though.

    I saved that into my 'picnic' file... ;)
    Just do a timely reminder. Actually, it should
    be quite easy, if the hosts can assure a ready
    supply of pork belly.
    We'll try to remember as the time gets closer... :)

    The squeaky wheel getting the greasy food.

    That's one purpose of reunions - affinities
    become easier to find with age when the
    adolescent concerns fall away.
    Indeed... And it's turned out that there were some pretty decent people
    that made up the class I joined for my senior year.... :)

    For mine I anticipate seeing the same people
    I've kept in touch with all along.

    ... Gravy has 3 of the 4 food groups: salt, grease & crunchy brown bits

    What's the fourth?

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    Title: Speckzelten (Speckplatz)
    Categories: Pork, German
    Servings: 4

    500 g Flour (4 1/2 cups less 1
    -Tbsp)
    1 ds Sugar
    1/2 ts Salt
    1/4 l Milk (1 cup plus 1 Tbsp)
    10 g Yeast (.35 oz)
    30 g Butter (2 Tbsp)
    Topping A:
    300 g Raw smoked lean bacon,
    -finely diced (10 1/2 oz)
    1 Egg yolk
    1 tb Coriander
    1 tb Caraway seed
    1 sm Onion, finely chopped
    Salt
    Topping B:
    2 c Cracklings
    2 tb Lard
    Salt

    From the Ries area.

    These bacon tarts can be made in two ways. The dough base is always the
    same, however, the topping is different.

    Dough:

    In a bowl, mix the flour and salt. Dissolve the yeast and sugar in half
    the lukewarm milk. Form a well in the flour, and pour the yeast mixture
    into this well. Dust the liquid with flour, and cover the bowl. Let
    rest,
    in a warm spot, for 1/2 hour. Then add the melted butter and knead and
    beat the dough until it starts to form small bubbles. Shape into rounds
    that are about half a finger's width thickness and about 5 inches in
    diameter. Tweak the edges of the dough into a raised rim. Cover the
    dough
    circles with

    A) egg yolk and then lightly press in the bacon and add the remainder of
    the ingredients, OR

    B) lard and then lightly press in the cracklings. Season with salt.

    Bake at medium heat for 30 minutes. Serve hot.

    Serves 4.

    From: D'SCHWAEBISCH' KUCHE' by Aegidius Kolb and Leonhard Lidel,
    Allgaeuer
    Zeitungsverlag, Kempten. 1976. (Translation/Conversion: Karin Brewer)
    Posted by: Karin Brewer, Cooking Echo, 9/92

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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to MICHAEL LOO on Tuesday, March 05, 2019 18:13:00
    Quoting Michael Loo to Nancy Backus on 03-01-19 15:11 <=-

    If there's substantial participation, that guarantees
    lots of extra food, a situation one may or may not
    want (depending on the disposition of the leftovers).
    There's generally enough people not making the main dishes that it's
    good to have the wide margin, especially since visitors are also
    encouraged to stay, should there be such... :) The leftovers, if any,
    go home with the maker/bringer.... or get sent home with some other family/single... When we bring gluten-free bread, we send the leftovers
    home with the family that is more than half with celiac issues... :)
    That's fair, then - I'm mostly interested in
    the waste issue (not the waist issue), but it
    would imply a major surplus of food, if not
    mains then side dishes and sweets.

    Pretty much people at church are good about not wasting food...

    It's serendipitous, as are many of the disasters
    that also befall (if a disaster can be said to
    be serendipitous).
    Unplanned, anyway.... ;)
    Unplanned, unintended.
    Right.
    As are most consequences, as it turns out.
    Partly because of the nature of life and
    partly because of our being willing to make
    U-turns to try and change an outcome that
    doesn't suit us.

    Or to figure out how to make the lemonade...

    Which I was careful not to get.... Basically, then, it's a new knockoff, but thinks to get away with using the good name of the original... Not unlike the Scottissue you and Ruth have been discussing... it's not been the same since KimberleyClark took it over.... been going downhill ever since.....
    Funny, because another of its products, Kleenex
    has a good reputation that the company seems
    eager to protect.
    Yeah... strange indeed...
    Sometimes a wide range of products appears to be
    a deliberate attempt to milk different sectors
    (illusory self-competition), but in some cases
    it may be a byproduct of merger mania.

    True.

    I was poking around the Hain Celestial
    holdings and found some example of such, both
    in its own stable and in that of its major
    competitors (cf. White Wave and its Silk,
    So Delicious, and International Delight lines).

    As you say, with all the mergers, quite understandable...

    No, only if it was perceived to do so... Instead, people will
    eventually just stop buying it, and there will be less dollars produced.....
    The length of the view probably has a lot to do
    with it: with long-term positions being less
    frequent, there's incentive to go for the quick
    turnover and cash flow, and the loss of
    reputation, let someone else deal with that.
    True... short-sightedness has become rather epidemic....
    And is a powerful argument, in my view, for
    nonderegulation of financial markets.

    You mean, the short-sightedness...? I'm not so sure that the regulators
    are much more long-sighted, though....

    it's been a half-century survival, better
    than a lot of enterprises.
    Indeed.
    Turns out that for the last decades it's been
    run by Barnes & Noble as well, though it's still
    a cooperative, returning the profits to the
    membership as described before.
    So will B&N be pulling out of there, too....?
    No idea. Though I think I keep up a membership,
    I've not bought anything there in years. At one
    point the rebate scheme went from a flat share
    of the profits (sort of one man one vote) to a
    percentage of your input (analogous to proportional
    representation, and much fairer, but instead of
    getting a couple bucks at the end of the year I
    get zero).

    And less incentive to buy to get your rebate as well... :)

    To be fair, you have to change the oil more
    frequently for onions, and it's hard to reuse
    it for frying something else afterward. Spuds
    are low on the flavor chain, so the oil can get
    reused for a wider variety of other things.
    They are even sometimes used to correct somewhat
    spoiled grease.
    Ok, I can see where that could push the price up some, and make them
    less likely to be the default....
    I'm not sure how much higher the costs are, fat
    not being all that expensive; probably the labor
    costs involved in regular oil changes is more
    considerable, though.

    That's more what I was thinking.... :)

    I saved that into my 'picnic' file... ;)
    Just do a timely reminder. Actually, it should
    be quite easy, if the hosts can assure a ready
    supply of pork belly.
    We'll try to remember as the time gets closer... :)
    The squeaky wheel getting the greasy food.

    Right. :)

    That's one purpose of reunions - affinities
    become easier to find with age when the
    adolescent concerns fall away.
    Indeed... And it's turned out that there were some pretty decent people that made up the class I joined for my senior year.... :)
    For mine I anticipate seeing the same people
    I've kept in touch with all along.

    At least now I'm keeping in touch with a number of them.... :)

    ... Gravy has 3 of the 4 food groups: salt, grease & crunchy brown bits
    What's the fourth?

    Veggies....? (G) Or more likely, protein...?

    ttyl neb

    ... Skier: Someone who pays an arm and a leg to break them.

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