• 26 travel was crusty etc

    From MICHAEL LOO@1:123/140 to RUTH HAFFLY on Friday, March 01, 2019 16:05:34
    Funny thing is I'm up and down on basil,
    sometimes preferring the fresh, sometimes
    dried (which is more like tea than real
    basil), sometimes the Thai, sometimes the
    lemony variety, sometimes the Italian that
    has as much in common with other Mediterranean
    herbs as it has with Asian basils. Usually I
    use half what a recipe might call for; with
    thyme and marjoram it's often twice.
    Depends on the phase of the moon? (G)

    It may not be fully rational, but it's not
    so irrational as that.

    I don't go out of my way for Hain products, figuring
    they're just as agribusiness as anyone else.
    This isn't Hain, it's Spectrum.
    Sorry to tell you, Spectrum is Hain.
    OK, I looked at the container (a couple of weeks ago) and saw it, in
    small letters, near the bottom.

    You might like to think that Spectrum is a small
    responsibly-run enterprise, and it may once have
    been that, but now it's just another cog in a
    monstrous agribusiness wheel.

    And get them before the birds so as well. We've got a small fig tree
    in > our yard, needs to grow a lot more before it puts out much
    fruit. Steve > bought it last year--it had one small fig on it but the fig never
    If you have only one tree, and it yields,
    netting might be a good idea.
    Probably so, don't want the birds to enjoy all of the figs.

    I am scantily sympathetic to cute winged
    creatures, rodents and lagomorphs with
    twitchy whiskers, or four-hooved vermin,
    They're competitors with humans for natural
    resources and generally not better than any
    other good source of protein.

    Or you could be like our friends Chris and Rob,
    who have a grapefrult tree. It's not much taller
    than I am and probably weighs less when not
    pregnant, but in season, like now, it's totally
    engulfed in 2 lb fruit that are sweet and delicious
    and won't get vandalized by the creatures.
    Sounds good. We got some grapefruit once in AZ that were like that.

    And these folks are so blase about their
    good fortune. Once in a while Lilli will
    get a bag of the precious fruit (which she
    uses to make Greyhound cocktails, not a
    wholly worthy product, but at least it keeps
    her from getting scurvy). I knew a family on
    Maui who had an avocado tree that had the most
    delicious fruit I've ever tasted that was so
    prolific that in order to get between the
    main house and the cottage you had to skate
    on squishy guacamole, in season of course,
    but it was pretty much always season. They
    were also incredibly jaded in the avocado
    department, seldom bothering to harvest.

    developed. In time, we might have enough to make preserves or fig
    cake > (an Okracoke Island specialty).
    Title: Sweet Fig Pickles
    That's another possiblility.
    More appropriate for this season would be
    sweet pig pickles!
    That's something different.

    Crisp pork belly with caramel vinegar
    categories: Vietnamese, Australian, main
    servings: 8

    h - Pork Belly
    1.5 kg pork belly
    2 Tb sea salt
    olive oil
    freshly ground black pepper
    h - Caramel vinegar
    1/2 c brown sugar
    1/3 c red wine vinegar
    2 star anise
    1 cinnamon stick
    1 c chicken stock
    1 orange, juice of
    4 wide strips orange peel
    sea salt
    freshly ground black pepper

    Score the skin of the pork belly in a criss-cross
    pattern with a sharp knife (a stanley knife works
    well). Rub the sea salt into the pork skin and
    set aside for 30 min [might count as pickling].

    Preheat the oven to 220C/450F. Wipe the salt off
    the pork skin with kitchen paper and dry well.
    Drizzle a large roasting tin with olive oil. Put
    the pork belly in the tin skin-side down, drizzle
    with a little more oil and season. Roast 30 min.
    Reduce temperature to 190C/375F and roast for
    another 1 1/2 hr. Carefully turn the pork over
    and roast for another 20 min, or until the skin
    is crisp.

    Remove the pork from the oven, cover loosely with
    foil and set aside to rest for at least 15 min.
    Slice the pork and drizzle with the caramel
    vinegar (below). Serve with steamed rice, a
    steamed Asian green vegetable and some freshly
    chopped red chilli.

    Caramel vinegar - Put the sugar, vinegar, star
    anise and cinnamon in a small saucepan and cook,
    stirring, over medium heat until the sugar has
    dissolved. Bring to the boil and simmer for
    5 min, or until syrupy. Stir in the chicken
    stock and simmer for another 5 min, or until
    slightly reduced. Add the orange juice and peel,
    reduce the heat to low and simmer gently until
    thick and syrupy. Season to taste.

    Bill Granger, goodfood.com.au
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to MICHAEL LOO on Saturday, March 02, 2019 15:59:57
    Hi Michael,

    basil), sometimes the Thai, sometimes the
    lemony variety, sometimes the Italian that
    has as much in common with other Mediterranean
    herbs as it has with Asian basils. Usually I
    use half what a recipe might call for; with
    thyme and marjoram it's often twice.
    Depends on the phase of the moon? (G)

    It may not be fully rational, but it's not
    so irrational as that.

    I know, just wanted to see your reaction. Probably depends a lot on what
    you are making and what's available to go with it.


    I don't go out of my way for Hain products, figuring
    they're just as agribusiness as anyone else.
    This isn't Hain, it's Spectrum.
    Sorry to tell you, Spectrum is Hain.
    OK, I looked at the container (a couple of weeks ago) and saw it, in small letters, near the bottom.

    You might like to think that Spectrum is a small
    responsibly-run enterprise, and it may once have
    been that, but now it's just another cog in a
    monstrous agribusiness wheel.

    True, but it's not Crisco or similar.

    And get them before the birds so as well. We've got a small
    fig tree > ML> in > our yard, needs to grow a lot more before it puts
    out much
    fruit. Steve > bought it last year--it had one small fig on it
    but the > ML> fig never
    If you have only one tree, and it yields,
    netting might be a good idea.
    Probably so, don't want the birds to enjoy all of the figs.

    I am scantily sympathetic to cute winged
    creatures, rodents and lagomorphs with
    twitchy whiskers, or four-hooved vermin,
    They're competitors with humans for natural
    resources and generally not better than any
    other good source of protein.

    Depends on the critter; I usually don't begrudge them any resources as
    they have their own place in the ecosystem, as we, ours.

    Or you could be like our friends Chris and Rob,
    who have a grapefrult tree. It's not much taller
    than I am and probably weighs less when not
    pregnant, but in season, like now, it's totally
    engulfed in 2 lb fruit that are sweet and delicious
    and won't get vandalized by the creatures.
    Sounds good. We got some grapefruit once in AZ that were like that.

    And these folks are so blase about their
    good fortune. Once in a while Lilli will

    They usually are.

    get a bag of the precious fruit (which she
    uses to make Greyhound cocktails, not a
    wholly worthy product, but at least it keeps
    her from getting scurvy). I knew a family on

    A vitamin C tablet does the same thing but probably not as appealing to
    her taste buds. (G)

    Maui who had an avocado tree that had the most
    delicious fruit I've ever tasted that was so
    prolific that in order to get between the
    main house and the cottage you had to skate
    on squishy guacamole, in season of course,
    but it was pretty much always season. They
    were also incredibly jaded in the avocado
    department, seldom bothering to harvest.

    We had the big one in our back yard on Oahu but not so jaded about it.
    When it had fruit (lots, every other year), we used them, gave them away
    and still didn't begin to use them all up. Birds got a lot of them,
    especially the drops.

    developed. In time, we might have enough to make preserves or
    fig > ML> cake > (an Okracoke Island specialty).
    Title: Sweet Fig Pickles
    That's another possiblility.
    More appropriate for this season would be
    sweet pig pickles!
    That's something different.

    Crisp pork belly with caramel vinegar
    categories: Vietnamese, Australian, main
    servings: 8

    Not seen that around here.

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    Ruth
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