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    From MICHAEL LOO@1:123/140 to RUTH HAFFLY on Thursday, February 28, 2019 12:17:28
    Guess one airline started with food, others followed suit. Then,
    after
    More or less, but that took a long time.
    Took a while for the general public to start flying too.

    The general public still doesn't do much flying -
    a little over 1 round trip a year per person in
    the US (less than 3 flights total), and many of
    my friends do 20 to 80 times that (my numbers are
    in the middle of that range).

    9/11, one started reducing food service, and again, others followed, claiming security costs and such like. Mxkey see, mxkey do.
    Not quite - 9/11 wasn't to blame for everything.
    Deregulation, on the other hand ... .
    True, but they seemed to come together about the same time frame.

    Again, not quite - it's likely that the news
    conflated two completely different phenomena.
    The most notable reductions in all services,
    including food, took place between 1978, when
    the Airline Deregulation Act became law, and
    1981, when government oversight over domestic
    routes ended. After 2001, service went from
    offering nothing with a smile to offering about
    that same amount with a snarl and suspicion,

    There's no incentive for standardizing anything,
    either. The carriers will go their ways cautiously,
    each looking carefully at the effects of anything
    anyone else does and then applying their own metrics.
    It's a long, slow, seemingly chaotic process. But
    then that's what the free market is all about.
    At least they haven't banned us bringing our own food aboard---yet!
    And if I'd been upgraded (I ended up something like
    #6 in line for the last seat), there would have
    been even more food (and possibly, though not
    necessarily, better).
    Burping full?
    Close on projectile vomiting full.
    I'd have probably declined some of the food service, or maybe not eaten
    all that was on the tray.

    I have a hard time doing that last, though it's
    a frequent desperation move. Better than the
    opposite, no doubt.

    OK, I made bread today. Since I didn't have enough whole
    wheat > ML> flour, I > used a couple of cups of oat flour. It didn't rise as high > ML> as if I'd
    used all wheat, but, decently enough. Should taste just as
    good as > ML> 100% > whole wheat bread.
    I had to bite my tongue there.
    Fresh meat?
    Someone's got to do it.
    Not me. (G)
    It's a game of cost and benefit. Some patients
    don't consider obnoxiousness and arrogance a major
    cost - some might even consider it a benefit.
    Not as far as we're concerned. That's a fast turn off--no dealing
    with > that doctor any more.
    We're pretty much in agreement on that, but
    not everyone is.
    No, some like that kind of "relationship". The orthopedic doctor that

    Not me [no G].

    did my knee, OTOH, talks to us quite a bit. He also took the precaution
    of not putting an ace wrap on my knee so I wouldn't have any contact
    with chemicals in it.

    A little more sensitivity and a little less
    assembly line can be very helpful.

    We went from the upper 70s a couple of days ago to the 40s today.
    It'll > be more of the latter, which are actually, below normal temps, for a few > days, then only into the mid 50s. That's normal for us,
    this time of
    year.
    I can't wait to see what the summer brings.
    T'will be interesting. They're predicting a longer spring/summer allergy season here because it's been a milder winter. Some trees and grasses
    are already pollenating.

    That's so weird - with the temperature extremes
    and all that.

    Trial and error--probably try a lighter red at first, then the
    fuller > bodied ones.
    Depends. I tend to use more robust wines for cooking.
    There are those who would say, but use a nice light
    Pinot Noir for bourguignon, but my answer to that is
    that when the recipe was formulated, Burgundy was a
    much fuller and harsher wine than it is now.
    Something for me to experiment with, once I get back on my feet.

    far be it from me to suggest you line the pockets
    of the alcohol industry, so I'd suggest going for
    more bang for the buck.

    OK, I didn't know there were 2 of them, nor the kidnapping
    aspect. > ML> The one who started the company seems to have
    been a more or less normal businessman.
    But marketing some interesting products.
    Not the original guy. It's becoming clearer that
    you're talking about the offspring.
    OK.
    Saus prik
    To be used as a cooking or table sauce or both?

    Often the latter, though it can be used in all
    sorts of dishes as well. You might use it where
    "nam prik" or Sriracha is called for - after
    all, Sriracha is a version of it.

    Beef salad with eggplant
    categories: Thai, Philippine, main
    servings: 2 to 4

    1/2 c water or beef stock
    1 c thinly sliced tender beef
    4 sm round green Thai eggplants, cut into wedges
    2 stalks lemongrass, solid portion only, thinly sliced
    3 Tb lime juice
    2 Tb fish sauce
    2 Tb nam prik pao (Thai chile paste)
    1 ts sugar
    1 ts Thai chili powder
    2 shallots, thinly sliced
    2 tiny Thai chiles, chopped
    20 mint leaves

    Yam Nua Maku An

    Bring water to boil in wok. Add beef and simmer
    until cooked. Remove with slotted spoon and place
    in salad bowl. Add eggplant to water and cook
    until slightly softened. Remove with slotted
    spoon and set aside.

    Add liquid in wok to beef. Combine lemongrass,
    lime juice, fish sauce, nam prik pao, sugar and
    chili powder, add to beef and mix. Add eggplant,
    shallots and chiles. Just before serving, stir
    in mint leaves.

    Note: Commercial brands of nam prik pao can be extremely hot. For
    milder flavor, reduce quantity to 1 Tb or less. Eliminate
    chiles, if desired.

    epilipinas.com
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to MICHAEL LOO on Saturday, March 02, 2019 14:46:27
    Hi Michael,

    Took a while for the general public to start flying too.

    The general public still doesn't do much flying -
    a little over 1 round trip a year per person in
    the US (less than 3 flights total), and many of
    my friends do 20 to 80 times that (my numbers are
    in the middle of that range).

    Our numbers have gone down since we got the camper. (G)

    Not quite - 9/11 wasn't to blame for everything.
    Deregulation, on the other hand ... .
    True, but they seemed to come together about the same time frame.

    Again, not quite - it's likely that the news
    conflated two completely different phenomena.
    The most notable reductions in all services,
    including food, took place between 1978, when
    the Airline Deregulation Act became law, and
    1981, when government oversight over domestic
    routes ended. After 2001, service went from

    Most of our flights were between 1983 and 2009, when Steve was in the
    Army. Actually had a couple of days with 3--Austin to Dallas, Dallas to
    St. Louis and St. Louis to Rhein-Main for getting over to Germany from
    Fort Hood. Another 3 flight day was Berlin to Franfurt, Frankfurt to JFK
    and JFK to Rochester. Other than that, most of the flying has been one
    or two flights per day. Probably the most we did in a relatively short
    time was when we were in HI--trips back to the main land and other
    islands.

    offering nothing with a smile to offering about
    that same amount with a snarl and suspicion,

    Depends on the airline, IMO.

    been even more food (and possibly, though not
    necessarily, better).
    Burping full?
    Close on projectile vomiting full.
    I'd have probably declined some of the food service, or maybe not
    eaten > all that was on the tray.

    I have a hard time doing that last, though it's
    a frequent desperation move. Better than the
    opposite, no doubt.

    If I'm too full to eat more or it's something that doesn't taste good, I
    won't eat it.

    It's a game of cost and benefit. Some patients
    don't consider obnoxiousness and arrogance a major
    cost - some might even consider it a benefit.
    Not as far as we're concerned. That's a fast turn off--no
    dealing > ML> with > that doctor any more.
    We're pretty much in agreement on that, but
    not everyone is.
    No, some like that kind of "relationship". The orthopedic doctor
    that

    Not me [no G].

    did my knee, OTOH, talks to us quite a bit. He also took the
    precaution > of not putting an ace wrap on my knee so I wouldn't have
    any contact
    with chemicals in it.

    A little more sensitivity and a little less
    assembly line can be very helpful.

    He's been my orthopedic doctor for several years now. We like him
    because he talks with you, not at you, and draws pictures sometimes to
    make his point clear.

    I can't wait to see what the summer brings.
    T'will be interesting. They're predicting a longer spring/summer
    allergy > season here because it's been a milder winter. Some trees
    and grasses > are already pollenating.

    That's so weird - with the temperature extremes
    and all that.

    It seems to be getting more common.

    Trial and error--probably try a lighter red at first, then
    the > ML> fuller > bodied ones.
    Depends. I tend to use more robust wines for cooking.
    There are those who would say, but use a nice light
    Pinot Noir for bourguignon, but my answer to that is
    that when the recipe was formulated, Burgundy was a
    much fuller and harsher wine than it is now.
    Something for me to experiment with, once I get back on my feet.

    far be it from me to suggest you line the pockets
    of the alcohol industry, so I'd suggest going for
    more bang for the buck.

    The small amounts we would buy would not even be a drop in the
    proverbial bucket for the industry. Besides, it's for cooking, not
    drinking.

    Saus prik
    To be used as a cooking or table sauce or both?

    Often the latter, though it can be used in all
    sorts of dishes as well. You might use it where
    "nam prik" or Sriracha is called for - after
    all, Sriracha is a version of it.

    OK, worth a try.

    Beef salad with eggplant
    categories: Thai, Philippine, main
    servings: 2 to 4

    I had something on this order once in HI. We had gone down to the mall
    in Honolulu, decided to get lunch at the food court. My salad started
    out at a nice level of heat but it got hotter, the more I ate of it.
    IIRC, Steve finished off the last of it. It was good, but the rising
    heat level detracted from the enjoyment of it.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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