• 11 come, let us feas

    From MICHAEL LOO@1:123/140 to NANCY BACKUS on Tuesday, February 26, 2019 11:06:28
    suggestion that it's the middle tiers, where
    these are not fully or recognizably realized,
    where most creative churn occurs.
    Could well be... Just read an article that posited that people that are struggling financially might be more likely to be able to ease anxiety
    by looking at the bright side in challenging situations....

    Or by buying lottery tickets, a less valid way
    of coping.

    I could eat beef twice or thrice a day every
    day essentially until doomsday.
    Actually probably I could, too... :) Just don't get the opportunity
    for it... :)
    And thrive on it, though something to lighten
    the diet, such as pork, might be good now and
    again.
    Or various forms of seafood....? (recognizing that Lilli wouldn't do
    that, of course)....

    I've gotten to the point where seafood is
    not a generally considerable option. When
    freed of that particular constraint, I often
    go overboard on the seafood, especially
    shellfish, for a couple days and then
    deciding enough is enough. Usually, if it's
    anything but sparely prepared - broiled
    with butter or boiled in cream or raw -
    it's disappointing. In Panama there was a
    lot of ocean produce, but one doubted the
    cleanliness of the waters - I didn't get
    offered anything raw (ceviche isn't really
    raw, nor is it really cooked).

    Some conductors help the situation, but
    just as many are a hindrance.
    I remember the very good results that Jerzy Semkov used to get from the
    RPO, in his elegant and quiet manner.... :) OTOH, was just at a recent performance of the RPO where our current Music Director, Ward Stare, got
    a magnificent performance of the Rite of Spring.... at one point near
    the end, he was dancing on the podium... but it was, to be fair, still controlled.... :) He's not about flash for the sake of flash as our
    last young conductor was....

    I always wondered why Semkow didn't have a big
    contract. I had a couple things of his on Vox,
    that's about it.

    Lilli was given some sensible-looking
    exercises, which she's doing with the
    incentive of feeling better. They seem
    to be helping.
    That's good....
    If she continues to do them. She missed a day,
    which was bad, and then the PT called in sick
    next day, which was bad.
    Hopefully she's made that up now....?

    Nope. Next availability was approximately
    her next scheduled appointment, and she
    didn't want to switch supervisors. Just
    so long as she keeps up with the exercises,
    things should be okay.

    Breaking a rib ain't fun, but if she's bouncing
    back and continues to thrive, all to the good.
    That's pretty much what I figure... :)

    A couple of Bonnie's neighbors have had
    some mishaps - the next door neighbor got
    mad at someone and kicked their car or
    something and broke her foot; and Effie
    tripped over one of those little gardens
    in the sidewalk that are supposed to improve
    the urban experience - mashed the side of
    her skull and fractured the orbit and had
    to have the eye reset. Both are doing well.

    I do know a kid who married a girl who is
    a Cornell botanist, her father also being
    a Cornell botanist responsible for the
    development of a number of varieties of
    fruit that are known for sweetness and
    flavor as well as long keeping, so it is
    possible that some progress is possible.
    One can but hope... :)

    But not be too optimistic - many market
    enhancements benefit someone other than the
    consumer.

    ... Are part-time band leaders semi-conductors?
    I once gave a toast on a guy's 40th or
    50th birthday in which I compared him
    to semiconductors, and he said, from
    you that's a compliment.
    [smile]
    Title: White Chili with Tempeh
    I read "tampon."
    Hmmmm.... there might have been some justification for that.... ;)

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    Title: Grenadine (Pomegranate Syrup)
    Categories: Beverages, Fruits, Syrups
    Yield: 2 cups

    2 Pomegranates, medium-large* 1/2 c ;Water
    2 1/2 c Sugar

    *When choosing pomegranates, reject any with a brownish area on the
    blossom
    end; such discoloration indicates the beginning of spoilage and
    off-flavor.

    Cut pomegranates open crosswise and pry out the fleshy crimson seeds (the
    red part is actually the pulpy envelope around a seed), using the tip of
    a
    blunt knife. Be careful not to include any fragments of the cottony
    white
    pulp in which the seeds are embedded, as it is bitter. You should have
    about two cups of seeds.

    Using a food processor or blender, chop the seeds with the sugar and
    water
    just long enough to make a rough puree. Don't attempt to make a smooth
    mixture; it's necessary only to break open the pulpy membranes.

    Pour the puree into an earthenware or glass bowl; cover it with a cloth.
    Let stand at room temperature for 3 days, stirring it daily. If the
    weather
    is extremely hot, refrigerate the puree after 24 hours.

    Line a sieve with dampened, very fine nylon net or two layers of dampened
    fine cheesecloth and set it over a saucepan of stainless-steel or other
    nonreactive material. Filter the pomegranate syrup into the pot,
    allowing
    it to drip without pressing on the pulp. This will take a few hours; you
    can speed matters up by tying the cheesecloth lining of the sieve into a
    bag and suspending it above the pot after the initial flow of juice has
    slowed down. When all the juice has dripped through, discard the seedy
    pulp.

    Bring the syrup to a bare simmer (180 F) over medium-low heat, then
    reduce
    the heat to very low and scald the syrup, using a candy/jelly thermometer
    and watching to be sure you keep the temperature below 200 F, for 3
    minutes.

    Skim off any foam, then funnel the syrup into a sterilized, dry bottle.
    Let
    the syrup cool, then cap or cork the bottle (use a new cork only) and
    store
    it in the refrigerator.

    To seal the syrup for pantry storage, funnel it into hot, clean half-pint
    canning jars. Seal with new two-piece canning lids according to
    manufacturer's directions. Following the method for a boiling-water
    bath,
    but keeping the water at simmering temperature (190 F), process the jars
    for 15 minutes. Cool, label, and store.

    Yield: About 2 cups. Keeps in either the refrigerator or, after canning,
    in the pantry for at least a year.

    The author writes: "Delicate in flavor and ruby-red in color, pomegranate
    syrup is a supporting player rather than a star. As such, it is much
    used
    as a flavor-smoother and sweetener in both alcoholic and non-alcoholic
    drinks; and it's also a pleasant topping for tart pineapple, peach or
    nectarine ice cream or sherbet...You might like to taste the real thing:
    a
    lot of the 'grenadine' offered nowadays is compounded of sweetening plus
    anonymous 'fruit' flavors rather than pomegranate juice."

    From "Fancy Pantry" by Helen Witty. New York: Workman Publishing
    Company,
    Inc., 1986. Pp. 280-281. ISBN 0-89480-037-X. Posted by Cathy Harned.
    From: Cathy Harned

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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Michael Loo on Wednesday, February 27, 2019 01:44:00
    On 02-26-19 10:06, Michael Loo <=-
    spoke to Nancy Backus about 11 come, let us feas <=-

    it's disappointing. In Panama there was a
    lot of ocean produce, but one doubted the
    cleanliness of the waters - I didn't get
    offered anything raw (ceviche isn't really
    raw, nor is it really cooked).

    Panama is where I was introduced to ceviche. It was a free bar snack.
    I suppose that they could do that because of the abundance of ocean
    produce as you say. With the price of seafood around here these days,
    ceviche is pretty much priced out of the question.

    BTW, I am sitting here typing using only one eye. My right eye had
    laser cataract surgery today and since the new lens is set for distance
    vision, my usual computer glasses are useless for it. Next eye to be
    done in two weeks, and then at least two weeks past that before I can
    get proper glasses for reading and/or computer.


    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

    Title: Mini Crab Puffs*
    Categories: Appetizer
    Yield: 5 Dozen

    8 oz Crabmeat, drained
    1/2 c Shredded cheddar cheese
    3 Green onions, minced
    1 ts Worchestershire sauce
    1 ts Dry mustard
    1/4 ts Salt & Pepper
    1 c Water
    1/2 c Butter
    1 c Flour
    4 Eggs

    Mix crabmeat, cheese, onion, worchestershire sauce, dry msutard, salt
    and pepper together and set aside.

    In large saucepan, heat water and butter to boiling. Remove from
    heat. Immediately add flour; beat until mixture leaves sides of pan
    and forms a ball. Add eggs, one at a time, beating until each is
    completely mixed. Beat in crab mixture.

    Drop by teaspoons of dough about one inch apart onto ungreased baking
    sheets.

    Bake in preheated 400 degree oven for 20 to 25 minutes OR until golden
    brown.

    Cool on racks; may be frozen.

    To serve, reheat frozen puffs at 325 degrees for about 10 = 15
    minutes.

    LLS Cookbook

    MMMMM


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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to MICHAEL LOO on Thursday, February 28, 2019 20:04:00
    Quoting Michael Loo to Nancy Backus on 02-26-19 10:06 <=-

    suggestion that it's the middle tiers, where
    these are not fully or recognizably realized,
    where most creative churn occurs.
    Could well be... Just read an article that posited that people that are struggling financially might be more likely to be able to ease anxiety
    by looking at the bright side in challenging situations....
    Or by buying lottery tickets, a less valid way
    of coping.

    That wasn't mentioned in the article... ;) Just the tendency to look for
    the silver lining in instances where the rich could just spend more to
    take care of the problem.... ;)

    I could eat beef twice or thrice a day every
    day essentially until doomsday.
    Actually probably I could, too... :) Just don't get the opportunity
    for it... :)
    And thrive on it, though something to lighten
    the diet, such as pork, might be good now and
    again.
    Or various forms of seafood....? (recognizing that Lilli wouldn't do
    that, of course)....
    I've gotten to the point where seafood is
    not a generally considerable option. When
    freed of that particular constraint, I often
    go overboard on the seafood, especially
    shellfish, for a couple days and then
    deciding enough is enough. Usually, if it's
    anything but sparely prepared - broiled
    with butter or boiled in cream or raw -
    it's disappointing.

    Doesn't need to be fancy to be good.... and simple lets the goodness
    shine better.... :)

    In Panama there was a lot of ocean produce,
    but one doubted the cleanliness of the waters
    - I didn't get offered anything raw (ceviche
    isn't really raw, nor is it really cooked).

    Cooked in the sense of prepared, and the reaction of the acids on the
    raw fish...

    Some conductors help the situation, but
    just as many are a hindrance.
    I remember the very good results that Jerzy Semkov used to get from the
    RPO, in his elegant and quiet manner.... :) OTOH, was just at a recent performance of the RPO where our current Music Director, Ward Stare, got
    a magnificent performance of the Rite of Spring.... at one point near
    the end, he was dancing on the podium... but it was, to be fair, still controlled.... :) He's not about flash for the sake of flash as our
    last young conductor was....
    I always wondered why Semkow didn't have a big
    contract. I had a couple things of his on Vox,
    that's about it.

    He was even quieter off stage, I understood... The main objection to
    having him as the permanent Music Director was that his forte was the conducting, and he didn't want the interaction with the community that
    now is called for in a Music Director.... all the buzzing up support, hobnobbing and all.... But the orchestra loved playing under him...

    Lilli was given some sensible-looking
    exercises, which she's doing with the
    incentive of feeling better. They seem
    to be helping.
    That's good....
    If she continues to do them. She missed a day,
    which was bad, and then the PT called in sick
    next day, which was bad.
    Hopefully she's made that up now....?
    Nope. Next availability was approximately
    her next scheduled appointment, and she
    didn't want to switch supervisors. Just
    so long as she keeps up with the exercises,
    things should be okay.

    Which I trust she is doing, more or less...?

    Breaking a rib ain't fun, but if she's bouncing
    back and continues to thrive, all to the good.
    That's pretty much what I figure... :)
    A couple of Bonnie's neighbors have had
    some mishaps - the next door neighbor got
    mad at someone and kicked their car or
    something and broke her foot;

    That's just a bit uncontrolled.... ;0

    and Effie tripped over one of those little
    gardens in the sidewalk that are supposed
    to improve the urban experience - mashed the
    side of her skull and fractured the orbit
    and had to have the eye reset.

    Such an improvement.... rather drastic, for a freak accident....

    Both are doing well.

    That's good....

    I do know a kid who married a girl who is
    a Cornell botanist, her father also being
    a Cornell botanist responsible for the
    development of a number of varieties of
    fruit that are known for sweetness and
    flavor as well as long keeping, so it is
    possible that some progress is possible.
    One can but hope... :)
    But not be too optimistic - many market
    enhancements benefit someone other than the
    consumer.

    Indeed... :)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Stephen Haffly@1:396/45.27 to Dale Shipp on Sunday, March 03, 2019 22:20:40
    Hi Dale,

    On (27 Feb 19) Dale Shipp wrote to Michael Loo...

    BTW, I am sitting here typing using only one eye. My right eye had
    laser cataract surgery today and since the new lens is set for
    distance vision, my usual computer glasses are useless for it. Next
    eye to be done in two weeks, and then at least two weeks past
    that before I can get proper glasses for reading and/or computer.

    Are you getting distance for the left eye also or near? I had the option
    to have one eye done for distance and one for near when I had the PRK
    laser surgery back in 2002. Supposedly, doing one eye near and the
    other far makes it possible to see both near and far for many people.
    Since I am very strongly left-eye dominant, I did not want to try that.

    You may have seen that Ruth is now back on. She can update on how she is
    doing. I had a platelet enriched plasma injection in my left thumb. I
    was scheduled to see the surgeon to set up having my left thumb operated
    on but did not want to do so unless I had exhausted all other
    alternatives. Since Ruth's surgeon offered the PRP injection, I am
    trying that to see if it will help me avoid or at least postpone
    surgery. So far, it is at least as effective as the cortisone shots have
    been and it has the promise of promoting healing of the joint instead of causing further deterioration. I may have the same thing done with my
    right thumb since it is also giving me signs that arthritis is affecting
    that joint also. It isn't something I want to do but surgery is a much
    less attractive alternative.

    This was tonight's supper:

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm)

    Title: Sourdough Pizza Dough
    Categories: Italian, Breads
    Cooktime: 15 minutes
    Preparation Time: 8 hours

    1 1/2 C sourdough starter
    2 tb olive oil
    3/4 t salt
    1 C whole wheat flour


    1. Mix first three ingredients together. Slowly work in 1 to 1-1/2
    cups flour until a soft dough is formed. If it gets too dry, add more
    starter or water.

    2. Knead for about 5 minutes, cover and let rest for 30-60 minutes.

    3. Roll out the dough. If using baking pan, transfer to baking pan,
    otherwise, place on a surface such as a Silpat sheet that will not dry
    out the dough. Cover with plastic wrap. and leave it at room
    temperature for seven or more hours. The crust will rise during this
    period. It can be baked without waiting, but the dough will not be as
    light.

    4. If you are using a baking stone, place it in a cold oven. Preheat
    oven to 450 degrees F. If you are not using a baking stone, just
    preheat the oven to 450 degres F.

    5. Bake crust in baking pan or carefully transfer to pizza peel and
    slide onto the heated pizza stone. Bake the crust for 5 minutes.

    6. Remove crust from oven. Add sauce and desired toppings. Slide pizza
    back into the oven for about 10 minutes or until the cheese is bubbly
    and starting to brown.


    Notes:
    Rating: 5/5 stars
    Link: https://www.kitchenstewardship.com/sourdough-recipes-galore-pizza-dough


    Source: Mike Avery adapted by Sarah

    I have modified the instructions to eliminate excess non-recipe
    verbiage that should have been in the notes section. Since our oven
    can preheat to 550 degrees, that is what I did. I also used a dough
    docker to roll over the crust before rising. I did not have the time
    to do the 7+ hours of rising. I did divide the dough in half and put
    the other half in a container in the refrigerator to cold rise until I
    get around to baking it. That one will get more rising time once it is
    rolled out.


    MMMMM


    Regards,

    Stephen
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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Stephen Haffly on Tuesday, March 05, 2019 02:35:00
    On 03-03-19 21:20, Stephen Haffly <=-
    spoke to Dale Shipp about Surgery (laser and otherw <=-

    BTW, I am sitting here typing using only one eye. My right eye had
    laser cataract surgery today and since the new lens is set for
    distance vision, my usual computer glasses are useless for it. Next
    eye to be done in two weeks, and then at least two weeks past
    that before I can get proper glasses for reading and/or computer.

    Are you getting distance for the left eye also or near? I had the
    option to have one eye done for distance and one for near when I had
    the PRK laser surgery back in 2002. Supposedly, doing one eye near and
    the other far makes it possible to see both near and far for many
    people. Since I am very strongly left-eye dominant, I did not want to
    try that.

    That was not even offered as an option. We both were offered new lenses
    with the astimatism correction built in, as well as the correction for
    distant vision. There was an option for a lens with multirange vision,
    but the surgeon actively discouraged that. I get my left eye lens
    replaced Tuesday next week. I'll probably go to the Dollar Tree and get
    a pair of cheater glasses for the computer (cost = $1.00). Eventually,
    I'll get a proper prescription for that after the eyes finish adjusting.
    One interesting feature right now is that if I close my right eye some
    things have a yellow tinge to them, but with the left eye closed the
    same thing will be a pure white.


    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

    Title: Patafla+
    Categories: Mediterrane, Sandwich, Vegetable, Appetizers
    Yield: 4 Servings


    1 ea baguette (the crustier the
    better)
    fine olive oil
    3 ea tomatoes, peeled, seeded and
    chopped
    1/2 ea purple onionn -- minced
    1/2 lb assorted brine-cured olives,
    pitted and -- chopped
    (see note below)
    2 ea cloves garlic -- minced
    1/2 ea red bell pepper, seeded and
    chopped
    2 TB capers
    salt
    freshly ground black pepper

    *Note: the olive mixture could consist of a third crisp Sicilian
    style, a third marinated in vinegar such as Kalamata, and a third
    mild ripe, such as Amfissa.

    Cut the baguette in half horizontally. Scoop out the moist center of
    the bread, break it into chunks, and place them in a bowl. Drizzle
    olive oil over the scooped out bread centers. Add the tomatoes, onion,
    olives, garlic, bell peppers and capers to the bread chunks and mix
    well. Add salt and pepper to taste, and enough olive oil to saturate
    the bread chunks thoroughly.

    Fill one half of the bread shell with the bread mixture. Cover with
    the other half and squeeze the halves together. Wrap well in plastic
    wrap and refrigerate for half a day.

    Just before serving, remove from the refrigerator and cut into slices
    1/2 inch thick. Arrange on a platter.

    This can be used as an hors d'ouvre or more substantial portions can
    be served as an entree.

    Posted by Mary Riemerman

    Recipe By : "The Feast of the Olive" by Maggie Blyth Klein

    From: Mary Riemerman Date: 11-10-96
    Cooking

    MMMMM


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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to DALE SHIPP on Thursday, March 07, 2019 22:48:00
    Quoting Dale Shipp to Stephen Haffly on 03-05-19 01:35 <=-

    That was not even offered as an option. We both were offered new
    lenses with the astimatism correction built in, as well as the
    correction for distant vision. There was an option for a lens with multirange vision, but the surgeon actively discouraged that. I get my left eye lens replaced Tuesday next week. I'll probably go to the
    Dollar Tree and get a pair of cheater glasses for the computer (cost = $1.00). Eventually, I'll get a proper prescription for that after the eyes finish adjusting. One interesting feature right now is that if I close my right eye some things have a yellow tinge to them, but with
    the left eye closed the same thing will be a pure white.

    Yup.... (G) that's the usual experience... :) My left eye was done
    first... and I sat there in the kitchen going from one eye to the
    other... and here I'd thought that my white appliances had been
    yellowing with age....! Nope... it was my lens that was supplying the yellow... ;) Made me glad I'd already scheduled the surgery for the
    right eye.... :)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Nancy Backus on Friday, March 08, 2019 05:19:04
    On 03-07-19 21:48, Nancy Backus <=-
    spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Surgery (laser and o <=-

    eyes finish adjusting. One interesting feature right now is that if I close my right eye some things have a yellow tinge to them, but with
    the left eye closed the same thing will be a pure white.

    Yup.... (G) that's the usual experience... :) My left eye was done first... and I sat there in the kitchen going from one eye to the
    other... and here I'd thought that my white appliances had been
    yellowing with age....! Nope... it was my lens that was supplying the yellow... ;) Made me glad I'd already scheduled the surgery for the
    right eye.... :)

    :-}} In other words, the yellow tinge on your appliances was not
    because they were getting old -- but because you were :-}}

    I guess this is someone's attempt at making a recipe that imitates
    oyster rockefellow, but acceptable as a neutral appetizer in a kosher
    menu. TTTT, I don't think they hit the mark of something good.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

    Title: OYSTERS MOCK-A-FELLER
    Categories: Cajun, Appetizers, Seafood
    Yield: 6 Servings

    18 Gefilte fish pcs. in a jar
    1/3 Bunch spinach
    6 Shallots
    3 Ribs celery
    1/3 Bunch parsley
    1/3 Head of lettuce
    1 Stick pareve margarine,soft
    1 tb Worscestershire sauce
    1 ts Anchovy paste
    1 ds Tabasco sauce
    3/4 oz 80 proof absinthe (Anisette)
    1/3 ts Salt
    1/2 c Seasoned bread crumbs

    Chop all greens fine and mix with margarine and half of bread crumbs.
    Reserve remaining bread crumbs. Add remaining ingredients, except
    fish pieces, and blend thoroughly. Drain gefilte fish, slice in half,
    and place in oven-proof shell shaped ramekins. Set shells in pan of
    hot, coarse kosher rock salt. Spread sauce over fish pieces and
    sprinkle with remaining bread crumbs. Bake at 450- F. abt. 25 min.;
    then place under broiler to brown.

    MMMMM


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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to DALE SHIPP on Sunday, March 10, 2019 23:20:00
    Quoting Dale Shipp to Nancy Backus on 03-08-19 04:19 <=-

    eyes finish adjusting. One interesting feature right now is that if I
    close my right eye some things have a yellow tinge to them, but with
    the left eye closed the same thing will be a pure white.
    Yup.... (G) that's the usual experience... :) My left eye was done
    first... and I sat there in the kitchen going from one eye to the
    other... and here I'd thought that my white appliances had been
    yellowing with age....! Nope... it was my lens that was supplying the
    yellow... ;) Made me glad I'd already scheduled the surgery for the
    right eye.... :)

    :-}} In other words, the yellow tinge on your appliances was not
    because they were getting old -- but because you were :-}}

    Well.... the eyes were getting old, anyway.... (G)

    I guess this is someone's attempt at making a recipe that imitates
    oyster rockefellow, but acceptable as a neutral appetizer in a kosher menu. TTTT, I don't think they hit the mark of something good.
    Title: OYSTERS MOCK-A-FELLER

    I suppose it depends on how badly one wanted to have something
    approximating the non-kosher item.... ;) And perhaps also on how dead
    the palate was.... ;)

    ttyl neb

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