But the general consensus was probably to keep it around.

It wasn't a consensus decision. As in Switzerland,
there was a commercial justification for the status
quo, so that absolved anyone from making a difficult
decision until recently.

So now the smallest of the small change is history, over there.

Demonetization just means that the government no
longer recognizes the currency (it's not current
any more), but there's nothing to prevent people
from using it anyhow as a barter tool or an
informal money.

tipping in balboas and hoarding the US money
and ended up with 3 centavos, which won't go

Your 3 cents worth?

You can have them if someone else doesn't
get them first.

OK, if you do find a home for them otherwise, my feelings won't be hurt.

There are two now. Don't know where the other
went. The coin collector's value is said to
be 7 cents each. I'll sell them to you for
half that. [jk]

its trials an tribulations, hardly qualifies as
a third-world country, as its per caput income
is almost half ours (that of next-door Nicaragua
is less than 10% of ours).

Not hardly.

Panama had a terrible reputation during the
Noriega years and before but has sort of
bounced back recently.

Good to hear that.

It's good to see economies develop, but there
is a lot of opportunity for backsliding if the
government becomes destabilized.

Except at the bank or post office.

I've seen where some banks started charging
for counting change.

So the coin counter/sorter machines I've seen in various places (they
take a cut of the amount sorted/counted) will become more and more
popular. We save up, roll change and every so often take it to the bank
and trade it in for bills.

I recall when the MBTA (Boston subway) used
quarters rather than specially minted tokens,
which meant that lots of rolls of quarters
were used - which made me cognizant of the
opportunities for fraud - essentially, people
would roll their quarters but stick a nickel
in the middle, cheating someone out of 20c
out of $10, or 2%. I used to change bills for
quarters a lot, and every now and then I'd see
the attendant get this disgusted snarly look
and give someone 75c and tell them to go through
the employee gate (turning a 20c deficit into a
5c surplus).

Problem was that from the time it got in the till
to the time it got to the bank, frequently it had
lost substantial value, making shopkeeping or indeed
any kind of money handling a terrible proposition.

Must have been loads of fun. (G)

Loads of despair, anyway.

Scotts? My parents used it for years, always with the paper

unrolling > from the back. I know one of my siblings uses that brand, wouldn't be > surprised if all of them do. I started buying a better quality one (2 > ply) as soon as I got out on my own.
Even the grocery store brands are better than
Scottissue these days.

Usually so.

That stuff doesn't even work for its advertised
purpose.

It would requre a modicum more attention
to detail and maybe add a cent or two to
each serving of food, so even though it's
a no-brainer, people will resist.

But harder to use in a take out situation.

There are dense fiber containers that are cheap,
sturdy, and biodegradable.

And, usually microwave-able.

In every way superior to the nonbiodegradables
except in price, and that would be fixed by
economies of scale if the scheme caught on as
it should.

By the way, on this trip he bought a big bottle
of bloody Mary mix instead. Guess who's making
horseradish meatloaf soon?

Sounds interesting/sort of different.

It ended up being pretty decent.

I'll have to take your word on it since I wasn't there to sample it.

Essentially that's all one can do on the echo.
Almost all evidence is secondhand.

Work, kid at home, etc--committments we couldn't always work around

to > get away when a picnic was planned. It's a bit easier now that we're

retired.

Don't just talk about it.

We're thinking about having the picnic here this year, early September
time frame.

Let us know when that firms up.

Deep chocolate pudding

Looks good with the dark chocolate and mint.

Especially with the mint as a garnish, adding
its scent only as much as you want it to.

That'll work, but a drop of mint extract in the pudding would be good,
at least IMO. (G)

I made a chocolate custard at Lilli's. No mint.
It was freehand, the way I usually do things.
The New York Times's food section for 2/12
was a series of fakeable dishes compiled by Sam
Sifton and his team, the point and the title being
that " You Don't Need a Recipe."Well, duh.

Dressings are another category for which a recipe
is generally unnecessary:

Lemon dressing
categories: salad, alternative
yield: 1 batch

2 Tb lemon juice
1 Tb Dijon mustard
1 ts lemon zest
1/2 ts sugar
salt to taste
1/4 c hemp seed oil

Whisk all ingredients together with salt to
taste. Gradually whisk in
hemp seed oil.
hempfarm.co.nz - inspired by The Food Network
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Hi Michael,

So now the smallest of the small change is history, over there.

Demonetization just means that the government no
longer recognizes the currency (it's not current
any more), but there's nothing to prevent people
from using it anyhow as a barter tool or an
informal money.

Or to go into coin collector's collections.

tipping in balboas and hoarding the US money
and ended up with 3 centavos, which won't go

Your 3 cents worth?

You can have them if someone else doesn't
get them first.

OK, if you do find a home for them otherwise, my feelings won't be

hurt.

There are two now. Don't know where the other
went. The coin collector's value is said to
be 7 cents each. I'll sell them to you for
half that. [jk]

The odd one may shake out of something you've packed away.

its trials an tribulations, hardly qualifies as
a third-world country, as its per caput income
is almost half ours (that of next-door Nicaragua
is less than 10% of ours).

Not hardly.

Panama had a terrible reputation during the
Noriega years and before but has sort of
bounced back recently.

Good to hear that.

It's good to see economies develop, but there
is a lot of opportunity for backsliding if the
government becomes destabilized.

Or if the government goes off the deep end as some countries seem to be
doing at present.

popular. We save up, roll change and every so often take it to the

bank > and trade it in for bills.

I recall when the MBTA (Boston subway) used
quarters rather than specially minted tokens,
which meant that lots of rolls of quarters
were used - which made me cognizant of the
opportunities for fraud - essentially, people
would roll their quarters but stick a nickel
in the middle, cheating someone out of 20c
out of $10, or 2%. I used to change bills for
quarters a lot, and every now and then I'd see
the attendant get this disgusted snarly look
and give someone 75c and tell them to go through
the employee gate (turning a 20c deficit into a
5c surplus).

Those are the times when tokens are the better option. Steve used to
work filling soda machines on MCAS Cherry Point. He'd have to empty the
coin holders on them, bring the coins back to the office for counting.
If there was a foreign coin instead of the quarter that was supposed to
be used, he'd pitch in a quarter and bring the foreign coin home. I got
a number of odd ones that way. He also said that he sometimes found
slugs of various sorts; those he did not bring home.

Problem was that from the time it got in the till
to the time it got to the bank, frequently it had
lost substantial value, making shopkeeping or indeed
any kind of money handling a terrible proposition.

Must have been loads of fun. (G)

Loads of despair, anyway.

Quite so, hard to buy food for the family with prices that kept
increasing so rapidly.

buying a better > ML> quality one (2 > ply) as soon as I got out on
my own.

Even the grocery store brands are better than
Scottissue these days.

Usually so.

That stuff doesn't even work for its advertised
purpose.

It's not worth the money you have to pay for it.

But harder to use in a take out situation.

There are dense fiber containers that are cheap,
sturdy, and biodegradable.

And, usually microwave-able.

In every way superior to the nonbiodegradables
except in price, and that would be fixed by
economies of scale if the scheme caught on as
it should.

So the chances of it catching on are..........?

By the way, on this trip he bought a big bottle
of bloody Mary mix instead. Guess who's making
horseradish meatloaf soon?

Sounds interesting/sort of different.

It ended up being pretty decent.

I'll have to take your word on it since I wasn't there to sample it.

Essentially that's all one can do on the echo.
Almost all evidence is secondhand.

True, tho some things have been replicated at picnics or other
gatherings.

Work, kid at home, etc--committments we couldn't always work

around > ML> to > get away when a picnic was planned. It's a bit
easier now that > ML> we're

retired.

Don't just talk about it.

We're thinking about having the picnic here this year, early

September > time frame.

Let us know when that firms up.

As of now, let's plan on it.

Deep chocolate pudding

Looks good with the dark chocolate and mint.

Especially with the mint as a garnish, adding
its scent only as much as you want it to.

That'll work, but a drop of mint extract in the pudding would be

good, > at least IMO. (G)

I made a chocolate custard at Lilli's. No mint.
It was freehand, the way I usually do things.
The New York Times's food section for 2/12
was a series of fakeable dishes compiled by Sam
Sifton and his team, the point and the title being
that " You Don't Need a Recipe."Well, duh.

About the way Icook for a lot of things.

Dressings are another category for which a recipe
is generally unnecessary:

Not usually, but some guidelines can be helpful.

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