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    From MICHAEL LOO@1:123/140 to RUTH HAFFLY on Saturday, February 09, 2019 07:31:16
    Flying back from where? If it was overseas, they have to feed you,
    but
    Taiwan. And no, they don't have to any more.
    I thought flights of over a ceertain time length had to include
    something more than a snack, maybe not quite a full meal. Must be that
    the rules have been twisted after I stopped flying on a semi regular
    basis.

    That's certainly not the case at least since
    deregulation and probably never was. What the
    airlines are required to do is get the buyer
    from point A to point B safely. There's not
    even any provision for timeliness or comfort.

    The only thing that made the airlines offer
    food and drink was competitive pressure. The
    question is of course is whether government
    should meddle with the market. I wouldn't mind
    if it did here and there.

    that was quite a bit of food. How long was the flight?
    Eleven hours more or less.
    A goodly amount of food for that time frame.

    And if I'd been upgraded (I ended up something like
    #6 in line for the last seat), there would have
    been even more food (and possibly, though not
    necessarily, better).

    Garlic salt has one advantage, though -
    it'll keep virtually forever.
    It does lose the garlic "punch" after a while.
    Which for people who use garlic powder might be
    a good thing.
    Use more, get rid of it faster? (G)
    Easier to regulate the garlickiness with
    a weaker product.
    Probably so--use either the whole jar or just a dusting, depending on
    your fondness for garlic.

    "Kept a-runnin' out."
    I always had a good supply on hand.
    I was referring to the previous (your mom's)
    situation.
    She never got it.
    Apparently not. But as usual, that was the
    punchline of a joke (about a Yankee
    shopkeeper, in this case).
    OK, I made bread today. Since I didn't have enough whole wheat flour, I
    used a couple of cups of oat flour. It didn't rise as high as if I'd
    used all wheat, but, decently enough. Should taste just as good as 100%
    whole wheat bread.

    I had to bite my tongue there.

    We didn't know when we first moved here. Wish we had, would have not wasted our time with him and gone to the one we did have for a few
    years > (found after the visit to the "wrong" doctor).
    Even a bad doctor can come in handy in some
    circumstances.
    In the long run, yes. We'd decided to go with him because his practice
    is in Wake Forest. Had to go to North Raleigh for the one we chose after that, then into Raleigh a few years later. When that doctor retired, we
    found our current one in Wake Forest, not too far, actually, from the
    first doctor.

    It's a game of cost and benefit. Some patients
    don't consider obnoxiousness and arrogance a major
    cost - some might even consider it a benefit.

    About 20 degrees below normal.
    Pretty much (not quite) balancing out the southern
    hemisphere.
    Seems so. We're back into the low 60s today, may get into the 70s later
    this week. But, some colder weather appears to be in the longer range forecast.

    At Glen's, this month the temperatures have been
    mostly higher than average, but I spake too soon -
    the numbers are taking a dive for the rest of the
    month, to the degree that it's supposed to be
    actually nice there (70s).

    with a > ML> bit of red wine.
    Yes. In my view, the improvement is worth it,
    and you don't need to use so much that it comes
    anywhere close to becoming an intoxicant.
    May try half a cup or so at first, up or down it accordingly.
    Try prereducing it as well.
    OK, by about half?

    There are those who say half, but there will be
    substantial alcohol (maybe a percent) left. Others
    say reduce almost to a sludge, which has adverse
    flavor consequences. Do what's comfortable.

    though I wish people would tolerate Europanto as
    used to be claimed language would evolve into.
    But it probably never will.
    Why not - that's the way various pidgins
    came to be. For example, the Singlish being
    spoken nowadays has not so much in common
    with that which I first encountered decades
    ago, because of the introduction of influences
    from many other languages (Chinese, the various
    Indians, and the various Bahasas, mostly).
    I don't think Americans (not all, but a good many) will want to give up
    their total use of English.

    Walk down a city street with your ears open
    and reconsider that statement!

    Oetker's way, either.
    He seems a bit of a strange bird anyway.
    As strange as Kellogg and Post? I don't know
    anything about him except that he had a food
    business.
    Same here.
    So were you referring to the younger Oetker,
    who has good reason to be strange (I looked it
    up - he was victim of a kidnapping similar to
    that that the Getty kid endured).
    OK, I didn't know there were 2 of them, nor the kidnapping aspect.

    The one who started the company seems to have
    been a more or less normal businessman.

    The cheese pastry thing seems to be pretty
    common in cold-climate European countries.
    Yes, I remember having a good number of them when we lived in Germany.
    Not as sweet as American versions of similar, but just as good, if not better. (G)

    And until recently treacherous for me.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v7.07

    Title: Gruibenknoedel (Cracklings Dumplings)
    Categories: Soups, German
    Servings: 4

    1 c Cracklings
    2 Eggs
    2 tb Flour
    125 g Plain breadcrumbs (4.5 oz)

    greens [chopped parsley and/or chives] seasonings (pepper, paprika,
    marjoram)

    Mix the cracklings, eggs, seasonings, and greens into a pliable mass.
    Add
    flour and breadcrumbs. Let the dough rest for 10 to 15 minutes. Then
    shape dumplings, and slip into barely boiling water, and let steep.
    Transfer to hot beef broth and serve.

    Serves 4.

    From: D'SCHWAEBISCH' KUCHE' by Aegidius Kolb and Leonhard Lidel,
    Allgaeuer
    Zeitungsverlag, Kempten. 1976. (Translation/Conversion: Karin Brewer)
    Posted by: Karin Brewer, Cooking Echo, 9/92

    MMMMM
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to MICHAEL LOO on Saturday, February 09, 2019 16:24:05
    Hi Michael,

    Flying back from where? If it was overseas, they have to feed
    you, > ML> but
    Taiwan. And no, they don't have to any more.
    I thought flights of over a certain time length had to include
    something more than a snack, maybe not quite a full meal. Must be
    that > the rules have been twisted after I stopped flying on a semi

    That's certainly not the case at least since
    deregulation and probably never was. What the
    airlines are required to do is get the buyer
    from point A to point B safely. There's not
    even any provision for timeliness or comfort.

    Guess one airline started with food, others followed suit. Then, after
    9/11, one started reducing food service, and again, others followed,
    claiming security costs and such like. Monkey see, monkey do.

    The only thing that made the airlines offer
    food and drink was competitive pressure. The
    question is of course is whether government
    should meddle with the market. I wouldn't mind
    if it did here and there.

    At least standardise what should be offered--a meal on flights of over 3
    hours, a certain level of snacks, i.e. not only amount, but quality--not
    just a tiny bag of pretzels and half a small can of drink but fruit,
    cheese and crackers, yogurt or such like.

    that was quite a bit of food. How long was the flight?
    Eleven hours more or less.
    A goodly amount of food for that time frame.

    And if I'd been upgraded (I ended up something like
    #6 in line for the last seat), there would have
    been even more food (and possibly, though not
    necessarily, better).

    Burping full?

    Use more, get rid of it faster? (G)
    Easier to regulate the garlickiness with
    a weaker product.
    Probably so--use either the whole jar or just a dusting, depending
    on > your fondness for garlic.

    Or somewhere in between.

    I was referring to the previous (your mom's)
    situation.
    She never got it.
    Apparently not. But as usual, that was the
    punchline of a joke (about a Yankee
    shopkeeper, in this case).
    OK, I made bread today. Since I didn't have enough whole wheat
    flour, I > used a couple of cups of oat flour. It didn't rise as high
    as if I'd
    used all wheat, but, decently enough. Should taste just as good as
    100% > whole wheat bread.

    I had to bite my tongue there.

    Fresh meat?

    Even a bad doctor can come in handy in some
    circumstances.
    In the long run, yes. We'd decided to go with him because his
    practice > is in Wake Forest. Had to go to North Raleigh for the one
    we chose after > that, then into Raleigh a few years later. When that doctor retired, we > found our current one in Wake Forest, not too
    far, actually, from the > first doctor.

    It's a game of cost and benefit. Some patients
    don't consider obnoxiousness and arrogance a major
    cost - some might even consider it a benefit.

    Not as far as we're concerned. That's a fast turn off--no dealing with
    that doctor any more.

    About 20 degrees below normal.
    Pretty much (not quite) balancing out the southern
    hemisphere.
    Seems so. We're back into the low 60s today, may get into the 70s
    later > this week. But, some colder weather appears to be in the
    longer range > forecast.

    At Glen's, this month the temperatures have been
    mostly higher than average, but I spake too soon -
    the numbers are taking a dive for the rest of the
    month, to the degree that it's supposed to be
    actually nice there (70s).

    We went from the upper 70s a couple of days ago to the 40s today. It'll
    be more of the latter, which are actually, below normal temps, for a few
    days, then only into the mid 50s. That's normal for us, this time of
    year.

    with a > ML> bit of red wine.
    Yes. In my view, the improvement is worth it,
    and you don't need to use so much that it comes
    anywhere close to becoming an intoxicant.
    May try half a cup or so at first, up or down it accordingly.
    Try prereducing it as well.
    OK, by about half?

    There are those who say half, but there will be
    substantial alcohol (maybe a percent) left. Others
    say reduce almost to a sludge, which has adverse
    flavor consequences. Do what's comfortable.

    Trial and error--probably try a lighter red at first, then the fuller
    bodied ones.

    though I wish people would tolerate Europanto as
    used to be claimed language would evolve into.
    But it probably never will.
    Why not - that's the way various pidgins
    came to be. For example, the Singlish being
    spoken nowadays has not so much in common
    with that which I first encountered decades
    ago, because of the introduction of influences
    from many other languages (Chinese, the various
    Indians, and the various Bahasas, mostly).
    I don't think Americans (not all, but a good many) will want to give
    up > their total use of English.

    Walk down a city street with your ears open
    and reconsider that statement!

    Depends on the city--and we're more small town than big city.

    Oetker's way, either.
    He seems a bit of a strange bird anyway.
    As strange as Kellogg and Post? I don't know
    anything about him except that he had a food
    business.
    Same here.
    So were you referring to the younger Oetker,
    who has good reason to be strange (I looked it
    up - he was victim of a kidnapping similar to
    that that the Getty kid endured).
    OK, I didn't know there were 2 of them, nor the kidnapping aspect.

    The one who started the company seems to have
    been a more or less normal businessman.

    But marketing some interesting products.


    The cheese pastry thing seems to be pretty
    common in cold-climate European countries.
    Yes, I remember having a good number of them when we lived in
    Germany. > Not as sweet as American versions of similar, but just as
    good, if not > better. (G)

    And until recently treacherous for me.

    Fat bombs were our name for some of them. (G)

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    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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