• Kosher? was:McDonalds

    From DAVE DRUM@1:123/140 to DALE SHIPP on Thursday, February 07, 2019 19:40:00
    Dale Shipp wrote to Ruth Hanschka <=-

    Some people genuinely like McDonald's. There's no accounting.

    In our case, like might be a bit too strong a word -- but we do have
    them on rare occasions. Usually when we are both too tired to cook.
    They are inexpensive (two double cheeseburgers for $5), quick and close
    to home. We recently tried Wendy's just to compare and decided that we don't like their burgers as much plus they are a bit further away.
    Burger king is ok but none of them are close enough to be any real competition.

    McDuck's is OK for cheap neck filler. I get two Bacon McDoubles for $4
    and bring 'em home with me. And they (currently) have a cherry-creme pie
    at $1.39 for a pair of them. Nice dessert.

    In this recipe -- what is kosher wine? Or is an easier question what
    wine is not kosher?

    Probably more than you wanted to know. But ...............

    From Rabbi Mikal Datz - a couple years ago.

    /begin pasted/

    For wine to be considered kosher, only Sabbath-observant Jews may handle
    it, from the first time in the process when a liquid portion is
    separated from solid waste, until the wine is pasteurized or bottles are sealed.

    Because of wine's special role in many non-Jewish religions, the kashrut
    laws specify that wine cannot be considered kosher if it might have been
    used for idolatry. These laws include Yayin Nesekh, wine that has been
    poured to an idol, and Stam Yainom, wine that has been touched by
    someone who believes in idolatry or produced by non-Jews. When kosher
    wine is yayin mevushal ("cooked" or "boiled"), it becomes unfit for
    idolatrous use and will keep the status of kosher wine even if
    subsequently touched by an idolater.

    While none of the ingredients that make up wine (alcohol, sugars,
    acidity and phenols) is considered non-kosher, the kashrut laws
    involving wine are concerned more with who handles the wine and what
    they use to make it.

    Wine that is described as "kosher for Passover" must have been kept free
    from contact with chametz and kitnios. This would include grain, bread,
    and dough as well as legumes and corn derivatives.

    As mentioned above, when kosher wine is mevushal ("cooked" or "boiled"),
    it thereby becomes unfit for idolatrous use and will keep the status of
    kosher wine even if subsequently touched by an idolater. It is not known
    whence the ancient Jewish authorities derived this claim; there are no
    records concerning "boiled wine" and its fitness for use in the cults of
    any of the religions of the peoples surrounding ancient Israel. Indeed,
    in Orthodox Christianity, it is common to add boiling water to the
    sacramental wine. Another opinion holds that mevushal wine was not
    included in the rabbinic edict against drinking wine touched by an
    idolater simply because such wine was uncommon in those times.

    Mevushal wine is frequently used in kosher restaurants and by kosher
    caterers so as to allow the wine to be handled by non-Jewish or
    non-observant waiters.

    The process of fully boiling a wine kills off most of the fine mold on
    the grapes, and greatly alters the tannins and flavors of the wine.
    Therefore, great care is taken to satisfy the legal requirements while
    exposing the wine to as little heat as necessary. There is significant disagreement between halachic deciders as to the precise temperature a
    wine must reach to be considered mevushal, ranging from 165°F/74°C to 194°F/90°C. (At this temperature, the wine is not at a rolling boil,
    but it is cooking, in the sense that it will evaporate much more quickly
    than usual.) Cooking at the minimum required temperature reduces some of
    the damage done to the wine, but still has a substantial effect on
    quality and aging potential.

    Recently, a process called flash pasteurization has come into vogue.
    This method rapidly heats the wine to the desired temperature and
    immediately chills it back to room temperature. This process is said to
    have a minimal effect on flavor, at least to the casual wine drinker.

    Irrespective of the method, the pasteurization process must be overseen
    by mashgichim to ensure the kosher status of the wine. Generally, they
    will attend the winery to physically tip the fruit into the crush, and
    operate the pasteurization equipment. Once the wine emerges from the
    process, it can be handled and aged in the normal fashion.

    /end pasted/

    As to the next to last paragraph .... try not to laugh too hard. Any
    heating to pasteurisation temperature of wine will have a detrimental
    effect on taste.

    Something else I picked up on which is not mentioned above - only red
    wines are Kosher. Dunno why. I'll as Mike next time I am at Temple B'rith Sholom.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Halal Cart-Style Chicken & Rice w/White Sauce
    Categories: Poultry, Rice, Herbs, Citrus
    Yield: 5 Servings

    MMMMM--------------------------CHICKEN-------------------------------
    2 tb Lemon juice
    1 tb Chopped fresh oregano
    1/2 ts Ground coriander
    3 cl Garlic; rough chopped
    1/4 c Light olive oil
    Salt & fresh ground pepper
    2 lb Chicken thighs: skinned,
    - boned, trimmed
    1 tb Oil

    MMMMM----------------------------RICE---------------------------------
    2 tb Unsalted butter
    1/2 ts Turmeric
    1/4 ts Ground cumin
    1 1/2 c Long-grain or Basmati rice
    2 1/2 c Chicken broth
    Salt & fresh ground pepper

    MMMMM---------------------------SAUCE--------------------------------
    1/2 c Mayonnaise
    1/2 c Greek yoghurt
    1 tb Sugar
    2 tb White vinegar
    1 ts Lemon juice
    1/4 c Chopped fresh parsley
    Salt & fresh ground pepper

    MMMMM--------------------------TO SERVE-------------------------------
    1 Head iceberg lettuce;
    - shredded
    1 lg Tomato; in wedges
    Fluffy pocketless pita bread
    - brushed in butter; lightly
    - toasted, in 1" × 3" strips
    Harissa-style hot sauce

    FOR THE CHICKEN: Combine the lemon juice, oregano,
    coriander, garlic, and olive oil in a blender. Blend until
    smooth. Season the marinade to taste with salt and black
    pepper. Place the chicken in a 1-gallon zipper-lock bag
    and add half of the marinade (reserve the remaining
    marinade in the refrigerator). Turn the chicken to coat,
    seal the bag, and marinate the chicken in the refrigerator
    for at least 1 hour and up to 4 hours, turning
    occasionally to redistribute the marinade. *

    Remove the chicken from the bag and pat it dry with paper
    towels. Season with kosher salt and pepper, going heavy on
    the pepper. Heat the oil in a 12" heavy-bottomed cast iron
    or stainless-steel skillet over medium-high heat until it
    is lightly smoking. Add the chicken pieces and cook
    without disturbing until they are lightly browned on the
    first side, about 4 minutes. Using tongs, flip the
    chicken. Reduce the heat to medium and cook until, about 6
    minutes longer. Transfer the chicken to a cutting board
    and allow to cool for 5 minutes.

    Using a chef's knife, roughly chop the chicken into 1/2"
    to 1/4" chunks. Transfer to a medium bowl, add the
    remaining marinade, cover loosely with plastic, and
    refrigerate while you cook the rice and prepare the sauce.

    FOR THE RICE: Melt the butter over medium heat in a large
    Dutch oven. Add the turmeric and cumin and cook until
    fragrant but not browned, about 1 minute. Add the rice and
    stir to coat. Cook, stirring frequently, until the rice is
    lightly toasted, about 4 minutes. Add the chicken broth.
    Season to taste with salt and pepper. Raise the heat to
    high and bring to a boil. Cover, reduce to a simmer, and
    cook for 15 minutes without disturbing. Remove from the
    heat and allow to rest until the water is completely
    absorbed and the rice is tender, about 15 minutes.

    FOR THE SAUCE: In a small bowl, combine the mayonnaise,
    yoghurt, sugar, vinegar, lemon juice, parsley, and 2
    teaspoons black pepper. Whisk to combine. Season to taste
    with salt.

    TO SERVE: Return the entire contents of the chicken bowl
    (chicken, marinade, and all juices) to the skillet. Cook
    over medium-high heat, stirring occasionally, until heated
    through. To serve, divide the rice, lettuce, tomato, and
    toasted pita bread evenly among four to six plates. Pile
    the chicken on top of the rice. Top with the white sauce
    and hot sauce. Serve immediately, passing extra sauce at
    the table.

    * NOTE: Do not marinate the chicken longer than 4 hours or
    it'll get a mushy texture. If you must delay cooking the
    chicken for any reason, remove it from the marinade, pat
    it dry with paper towels, and refrigerate until ready to
    cook.

    Yield: Serves 4 to 6

    Courtesy Caroline Russock

    Recipe from: http://www.seriouseats.com

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