• 573 hoo boy, various

    From MICHAEL LOO@1:123/140 to NANCY BACKUS on Tuesday, April 10, 2018 05:45:16
    Hoo boy, this is turning into a whining about
    health echo, and I am the prime culprit, I admit.
    It's what's happening currently... ;)

    Sad to say.

    I did find a terrible secret in the bottom of
    her freezer - a whole big block of frozen
    chicken thighs, months and months and months
    old. What other secrets are in store for me?
    It sounds worse than my freezer, even... Were you able to use the
    chicken thighs for anything...? or were they too far gone...? And have
    you found out any more secrets in the meantime....?

    I haven't looked carefully and don't plan to.
    There was the 2014 bag of dried blueberries in
    the cupboard, though.

    Truffles add to the profit margin in a way
    that vegetable-of-the-day doesn't. If one
    puts truffle oil in a dish, that will justify
    adding a buck or two to the price; actual
    shaved truffles, even bad ones, many dollars.
    Add foie gras and truffles, double the price.
    So its the cachet of the item...

    That's what drives profits. Asparagus just
    doesn't cut it.

    I'll pay the premium for foie gras, but truffles
    are seldom worth it - not that I dislike them,
    but it's really difficult to get good ones of
    the proper species (melanosporum) - I have not
    had them in the US in 30 years (other than what I
    brought back myself) and seldom even in Europe.
    One pays for the name, not the quality, then.... which I believe has
    been discussed before... ;)

    For sure - but truffles, one just can't get the
    quality, especially here.

    Back in the olden days there was this concept
    of the Marketplace of Ideas, where truth would
    be trusted to eventually supplant truthiness,
    but now the latter proliferates at lightning
    speed, so it's been largely replaced by Gresham's
    law, where good gets squeezed out by faulty. Some
    of us will do our hour a day trying to put out
    interesting true stuff and to stamp out crap, but
    it can be hard at times and gets some resistance.
    Yeah, I know.... ;) And it's across the board, not just in cooking... I
    keep hearing from a friend of mine the latest and greatest "truths" that she's just found on the Internet or seen in a TV show....

    Lilli does that sometimes - she will shout from
    the other room that she's discovered something,
    and I'll say, where'd you read that, and it turns
    out to be some insane or at least demilune site.

    Spago Gefilte Fish
    cat: Passover
    Serves: 12

    1 hd (about 2-1/2 lb) green cabbage
    2 c matzoh meal
    1 qt fish stock, Court Bouillon
    - or good-quality canned fish broth
    1 Tb extra-virgin olive oil
    1/2 md (5 oz) onion, minced
    2 lb whitefish fillets, such as pike,
    - carp or whitefish, cut into chunks
    3 eggs, separated
    1/2 c chopped Italian parsley
    2 Tb (6 or 7 sprigs) chopped fresh tarragon leaves
    2 to 3 ts salt
    1/2 ts freshly ground white pepper
    Cayenne pepper, to taste
    1 md carrot, peeled and julienned
    1 md leek, white part only, julienned
    Grated white or red horseradish

    We add brilliant green color by wrapping each piece of
    gefilte fish in a blanched cabbage leaf. If you like the
    pungent bite of horseradish with gefilte fish, finely
    grate a peeled, fresh horseradish root into a bowl;
    cover with plastic wrap, and refrigerate until needed.
    For red horseradish, boil 1/2 lb red beets until
    tender; then peel, finely grate into a bowl, and add to
    taste to grated horseradish.

    Preheat the oven to 375F.

    Bring a large pot of salted water to a boil. Add the
    cabbage and blanch it for about 5 min; carefully lift
    it out, leaving the water in the pot, and transfer the
    cabbage to a basin filled with cold water. When the
    cabbage head is cool enough to handle, remove the whole
    leaves and cut away the tough core. As you peel off the
    outer leaves, you may have to return the head of cabbage
    to the boiling water to soften the inner leaves. Lay the
    whole leaves out to dry on a clean towel and reserve.

    Put the matzoh meal in a small bowl. Cover with 1 c fish
    stock and let soak until needed.

    Heat the olive oil over medium heat. Add the onion and
    saute until wilted but not yet browned, 4 to 5 min.
    Transfer to a bowl to cool.

    In a wooden bowl or on a chopping board, chop the fish
    finely with a curved chopper or a large knife. Add the
    matzoh meal with the stock, the cooled onions, 3 egg
    yolks, the chopped parsley and tarragon, 2 ts salt,
    white pepper, and cayenne to taste, and continue to
    chop until well combined.

    Whisk the egg whites until they form firm but not stiff
    peaks. Stir a little into the fish mixture; then, quickly
    but gently, fold in the remaining whites. To test for
    flavor, bring a little fish stock to a simmer, add a
    small ball of the fish mixture, and cook for about 5 min.
    Taste and correct seasoning, adding a little more salt or
    cayenne as you like.

    Heat the remaining fish stock and spoon a little into
    an 11 x 17" baking pan. Divide the fish mixture into
    twelve portions, about 4 oz each, and enclose each in an
    oblong shape inside 1 or 2 cabbage leaves, wrapping the
    leaves around the filling like paper around a package,
    folding the bottom, then the two sides, and then the top
    over the fish; you will find that when the leaves get
    smaller, you will have to use two to wrap the fish. As
    each package is formed, place in the prepared pan,
    seam-side down. Pour the remaining stock over the fish
    and top with the carrots and leeks. Cover the pan with
    foil and bake 30 bmin. Remove the pan from the oven, let
    the fish cool in the stock, and then transfer the fish
    and stock to an airtight container and refrigerate until
    serving time.

    To serve, place one package of gefilte fish on each
    of 12 plates, garnishing with some of the julienned
    carrots and leeks. Pass the horseradish for guests to
    add to their plates to taste.

    Wolfgang Puck, Spago
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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to MICHAEL LOO on Wednesday, April 11, 2018 13:59:00
    Quoting Michael Loo to Nancy Backus on 04-10-18 05:45 <=-

    Hoo boy, this is turning into a whining about
    health echo, and I am the prime culprit, I admit.
    It's what's happening currently... ;)
    Sad to say.

    Maybe we'll all heal to a sufficient extent, and the whining will tone
    down some... (G)

    I did find a terrible secret in the bottom of
    her freezer - a whole big block of frozen
    chicken thighs, months and months and months
    old. What other secrets are in store for me?
    It sounds worse than my freezer, even... Were you able to use the
    chicken thighs for anything...? or were they too far gone...? And
    have you found out any more secrets in the meantime....?
    I haven't looked carefully and don't plan to.

    Probably a very smart idea... :)

    There was the 2014 bag of dried blueberries in
    the cupboard, though.

    Were they still usable...? Or did you toss them...

    And, were you able to do anything with that block of chicken thighs...?

    Truffles add to the profit margin in a way
    that vegetable-of-the-day doesn't. If one
    puts truffle oil in a dish, that will justify
    adding a buck or two to the price; actual
    shaved truffles, even bad ones, many dollars.
    Add foie gras and truffles, double the price.
    So its the cachet of the item...
    That's what drives profits. Asparagus just
    doesn't cut it.

    Once upon a time, asparagus had a cachet, too... but one does need to
    not overcook it... (G)

    I'll pay the premium for foie gras, but truffles
    are seldom worth it - not that I dislike them,
    but it's really difficult to get good ones of
    the proper species (melanosporum) - I have not
    had them in the US in 30 years (other than what I
    brought back myself) and seldom even in Europe.
    One pays for the name, not the quality, then.... which I believe has
    been discussed before... ;)
    For sure - but truffles, one just can't get the
    quality, especially here.

    So the informed should know not to spend the premium on what isn't going
    to be what it should have been... :)

    Back in the olden days there was this concept
    of the Marketplace of Ideas, where truth would
    be trusted to eventually supplant truthiness,
    but now the latter proliferates at lightning
    speed, so it's been largely replaced by Gresham's
    law, where good gets squeezed out by faulty. Some
    of us will do our hour a day trying to put out
    interesting true stuff and to stamp out crap, but
    it can be hard at times and gets some resistance.
    Yeah, I know.... ;) And it's across the board, not just in cooking... I keep hearing from a friend of mine the latest and greatest "truths" that she's just found on the Internet or seen in a TV show....
    Lilli does that sometimes - she will shout from
    the other room that she's discovered something,
    and I'll say, where'd you read that, and it turns
    out to be some insane or at least demilune site.

    Sigh... (G)

    ttyl neb

    ... Remember the seaweed is always greener in somebody else's lake!

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