With patience and incentive, humans will
learn to communicate in some way or other.

Usually starting with a primitive sign language and progressing to some
sort of vocal communications, most likely.

Usually starting with bashing each other over
the head with a tree limb, then progressing to
primitive sign language, then writing Henry IV,
Part II, and so on.

As long as the roses have a good scent--a lot of the hybrids are

bred > for "pretty" and have no rose scent at all.
Why would that be - scenty roses look good ehough.
Maybe they are "hypoallergenic" flowers?

A rose should have some scent to it, doesn't make sense not to, IMO.
Same as most other flowers, tho some are a bit too strong for me.

Sense and scentability>

Out of curiosity, I did find on The Straight
Dope and other sites that certain Plains tribes
did greet each other saying "how" or similar.

Figures, there had to be some basis for the common useage of it in

film, > tv, etc.
Au contraire, one can't put any fictionizing
beyond the entertainment media.

So much fiction to that already, hard to separate out the kernel or so
of truth in the "based on real events" in some shows/movies.

Exactly so. Based on a true story isn't much
of a recommendation these days, is it.

some protection and found it gone. Someone
must have complained to Google or Wikipedia
or both.

Good to get rid of it. Too bad no film clips of redheads like

Lucille > Ball in the candy factory or similar tho.
I didn't stick around long enough to find them
if they were there.

Good, sounds like it wasn't worth the time/effort.

Ahh, yeah. It was like going into a building
labeled "supermarket" and finding oneself in a
whorehouse. For sure not worth the time/effort
unless one were actually looking for a whorehouse.

It's often good to bite a tongue or two.

Getting some fresh meat in the picture. (G)

Fresh blood perhaps, too.

That has occured from time to time as well, tho I try to avoid it.

"I had to bite my tongue so hard that the
blood flowed."

As long as the dog doesn't chase the cat; the cat, the mouse,

etc. > ML> As I've mentioned, I have witnessed a dogfight

in a plane cabin (during boarding).

I'm not surprised.

As I've said, the sensible solution would
be to ban all lower animals in the cabin.

Yes, but some service animals are really needed. The explosion in
"emotional support" animals has gotten out of hand tho. Are airlines
expected to stock pet treats now as well as snacks for the human
passengers?

OK, the law says you have to make reasonable
accommodation for the handicapped, such as
the blind and to a lesser extent the deaf,
but it should not be difficult to identify
those in need. In future, though, AI should
be able to work at least as well as a seeing-
eye dog; I certainly hope that's true by the
time I go totally blind and daft.

Campbell's soup cans? (G)

Speaking of bor-ing.

True, only thing different with them was the name of the soup/some

of > the ingredients.
I forget, but wasn't Warhol mostly interested
in tomato? I was in some famous museum or

IIRC, yes, tomato soup was the one used in his painting.

Never figured out the appeal of those Pop guys -
Warhol, Oldenburg, Rauschenberg, anythingburg.

other and (not being good at seeing my feet)
quite literally tripped over one of his
creations - I don't remember what it was if
I ever even saw it clearly. On, it might have
been a case of Brillo.

Somebody planning a major clean up?

If I'd fallen over and busted the thing, maybe.

I looked it up, and it was a Brillo box at the
Davis Museum. I also discovered that a similar
box had been in the collection of Bob Shapazian,
the guy who said I was the best young writer he'd
ever met, immediately after I'd been told by Bob
Bell that I was the worst writer he'd ever met.
Bob S. was the teaching assistant to Bill Alfred,
one of the most interesting scholars I ever
encountered; Bob B. was a teaching assistant of
Ben Brower, one of the dullest. Bob's Brillo box
sold (after his death) for $3 million at a
Christie's auction.

Steve can't stand even a small bit of it so we don't use it at all.

In which case it would better not to make
the dish that would use it. I used to

That's the most likely scenerio.

Tacu tacu

We'll pass on it and try something else with the lentils I have on hand.

Properly seasoned tacu-tacu can be a fine thing.

Arroz con guandÿ (Rice with pigeon peas)
categories: Panamanian, starch, main
servings: many

1 lb fresh pigeon peas (sub canned)
3 Tb oil
3 c water
2 c rice
salt to taste

[Cook rice as normal, using a 1:1.5 ratio.]

Wash the fresh pigeon peas and drain well.

In a pan, heat oil and saute the pigeon peas
for 5 to 8 min. Add water and cook until tender.

Stir in rice and salt, and cook over high heat
until water is absorbed. Reduce heat, cover and
cook an additional 10 to 12 min.

If using canned pigeon peas, drain and add to
cooked rice. Cover and simmer for about 7 min.

M would season with cumin and garlic and stir
in a sauteed chopped onion.

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Hi Michael,

With patience and incentive, humans will
learn to communicate in some way or other.

Usually starting with a primitive sign language and progressing to

some > sort of vocal communications, most likely.

Usually starting with bashing each other over
the head with a tree limb, then progressing to

I don't think that was the general method--you wouldn't want a male
bashing a female, would you? Most cultures, the male is respectful of
the female, even if she's not of his group. There are times, tho, when
the female might be "asking for" the bashing, however but those are the exception to the rule.

primitive sign language, then writing Henry IV,
Part II, and so on.

Actually, works like Beuwolf and Canterbury Tales before Henry IV. (G)

Why would that be - scenty roses look good ehough.
Maybe they are "hypoallergenic" flowers?

A rose should have some scent to it, doesn't make sense not to, IMO. Same as most other flowers, tho some are a bit too strong for me.

Sense and scentability>

I just try to be sensible and stay away from strongly scented flower or
other scents. We were in Lowe's (hardware) the other day, walked past a
lady that had way too much perfume on---even Steve commented on it.

Out of curiosity, I did find on The Straight
Dope and other sites that certain Plains tribes
did greet each other saying "how" or similar.

Figures, there had to be some basis for the common useage of

it in > ML> film, > tv, etc.

Au contraire, one can't put any fictionizing
beyond the entertainment media.

So much fiction to that already, hard to separate out the kernel or

so > of truth in the "based on real events" in some shows/movies.

Exactly so. Based on a true story isn't much
of a recommendation these days, is it.

True, because most often it's just a hint of the real story, and a
whopping amount of "embellishment".

must have complained to Google or Wikipedia
or both.

Good to get rid of it. Too bad no film clips of redheads like

Lucille > Ball in the candy factory or similar tho.
I didn't stick around long enough to find them
if they were there.

Good, sounds like it wasn't worth the time/effort.

Ahh, yeah. It was like going into a building
labeled "supermarket" and finding oneself in a
whorehouse. For sure not worth the time/effort
unless one were actually looking for a whorehouse.

I'd rather find a warehouse--especially one full of fabric or food.

It's often good to bite a tongue or two.

Getting some fresh meat in the picture. (G)

Fresh blood perhaps, too.

That has occured from time to time as well, tho I try to avoid it.

"I had to bite my tongue so hard that the
blood flowed."

Good tagline there.

As I've said, the sensible solution would
be to ban all lower animals in the cabin.

Yes, but some service animals are really needed. The explosion in "emotional support" animals has gotten out of hand tho. Are airlines expected to stock pet treats now as well as snacks for the human passengers?

OK, the law says you have to make reasonable
accommodation for the handicapped, such as
the blind and to a lesser extent the deaf,
but it should not be difficult to identify
those in need. In future, though, AI should
be able to work at least as well as a seeing-
eye dog; I certainly hope that's true by the
time I go totally blind and daft.

I think it'll be a bit before AI is developed enough to fully take the
place of a well trained dog. Used to be, that was about the only service
animal you would see; now it seems they're available for most every form
of disability.

Campbell's soup cans? (G)

Speaking of bor-ing.

True, only thing different with them was the name of the

soup/some > ML> of > the ingredients.

I forget, but wasn't Warhol mostly interested
in tomato? I was in some famous museum or

IIRC, yes, tomato soup was the one used in his painting.

Never figured out the appeal of those Pop guys -
Warhol, Oldenburg, Rauschenberg, anythingburg.

Probably most appealing to those "spaced out" enough they had lost
contact with reality for the time being. OTOH, Peter Max may have used
brighter colors and suchlike, but he was more in tune with reality, IMO.

other and (not being good at seeing my feet)
quite literally tripped over one of his
creations - I don't remember what it was if
I ever even saw it clearly. On, it might have
been a case of Brillo.

Somebody planning a major clean up?

If I'd fallen over and busted the thing, maybe.

I looked it up, and it was a Brillo box at the
Davis Museum. I also discovered that a similar
box had been in the collection of Bob Shapazian,
the guy who said I was the best young writer he'd
ever met, immediately after I'd been told by Bob
Bell that I was the worst writer he'd ever met.
Bob S. was the teaching assistant to Bill Alfred,
one of the most interesting scholars I ever
encountered; Bob B. was a teaching assistant of
Ben Brower, one of the dullest. Bob's Brillo box
sold (after his death) for $3 million at a
Christie's auction.

Was it full of Brillo? (G) Somebody cleaned up on it.

(cilantro)

Steve can't stand even a small bit of it so we don't use it

at all. > ML> In which case it would better not to make

the dish that would use it. I used to

That's the most likely scenerio.

Tacu tacu

We'll pass on it and try something else with the lentils I have on

hand.

Properly seasoned tacu-tacu can be a fine thing.

Probably so, but if Steve doesn't want cilantro, I don't cook with it.

---
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Ruth
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On 02-07-19 14:35, Ruth Haffly <=-
spoke to Michael Loo about 918 travel was crusty aga <=-

Sense and scentability>

I just try to be sensible and stay away from strongly scented flower
or other scents. We were in Lowe's (hardware) the other day, walked
past a lady that had way too much perfume on---even Steve commented on
it.

I am with you on that. Even though Gail says that my sense of smell is half-defective, many artificial floral scents bother me. Things such
as walking down the detergent isle in a grocery store are bothersome.
On one of our coach tours there was a stop at a Yankee Candle store. I
could not get through that store fast enough! When I was working there
was a woman who often attended the same meetings I went to. I tried to
wait until she was seated and then get as far towards the other end of
the conference table as possible.


MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

Title: SPICED LAMB TRIANGLES
Categories: Appetizer, Lamb
Yield: 24 Servings

MMMMM------------------------LAMB FILLING-----------------------------
1/2 c Raisins; golden (chopped)
2 tb Pine nuts
2 ts Olive oil
1 Onion, finely chopped
2 Garlic cloves, finely choppd
1/2 lb Ground lamb; lean
2 ts Cumin; ground
1 ts Cinnamon; ground
3/4 ts Allspice; ground
1/4 c Chicken stock (defatted, w/
--reduced sodium)
1/4 c Parsley; chopped fresh
1 1/2 tb Lemon juice; fresh
Salt and pepper, to taste

MMMMM-----------------------PHYLLO PASTRY----------------------------
1 lg Egg white
2 tb Olive oil
1/4 ts Salt
8 Phyllo dough sheets (14x18"
1 ts Poppy or sesame seeds or a
--combination

To make lamb filling:
In a small bowl, cover raisins with boiling water and let steep for 5
minutes; drain and set aside. Set a large nonstick skillet over low
heat and add the pine nuts. Cook, stirring, until well toasted, 3 to 4
minutes. Turn out onto a plat to cool. Chop pine nuts and reserve. Add
oil to the skillet and heat over medium heat. Add onions and garlic;
saute until softened and beginning to color, 3 to 5 minutes. Add lamb,
cumin, cinnamon and all-spice; cook, stirring, until the lamb is no
longer pink, 2 to 3 minutes. Transfer to a colander and drain off fat.
Return the lamb mixture to the skillet and add chicken stock, reserved
raisins and pine nuts, parsley and lemon juice; cook until liquid is
absorbed, about 1 minute. Season with sal and pepper. Let cool. (The
lamb filling can be prepared ahead and refrigerated for up to 2 days.)

To form phyllo triangles:
Set oven rack on the upper level; preheat to 350 degrees F.
Lightly coat a baking sheet with nonstick cooking spray ro line with
parchment paper. In a small bowl, whist together egg white, oil, and
salt.

Lay a sheet of phyllo on the work surface with short side toward
you. Cut lenghtwise into thirds. Brush the lenghtwise half of each
strip lightly with the egg-white mixture. Place a tablespoon of
filling at the bottom of the strip and fold one corner of the strip
over the filling diagonally across to the opposite edge to form a
triangle. Continue to fold the triangle onto itself, as you would fold
a flag. Place on the prepeared baking sheet. Repeat with the remaining
phyllo, egg-white mixture and filling.

Brush the triangles lightly with the egg-white mixture and
sprindle with seeds, if desired. Bake for 20 to 25 minutes, or until
dar, golden. Let cool for 5 minutes before serving hot. (The triangles
may be baked up to 2 days in advance, then reheated in a 350 degree F
oven for 10 to 12 minutes, or until heated through.)

95 calories per piece: 4 g proten, 4 g fat, 11g carbohydrate; 76 mg
sodium; 7 mg cholesterol.

**"Savory lamb and sweet golden raisins fill these delicious morsels."
~-From Eating Well, May/June 1993.
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MMMMM


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Hi Dale,

Sense and scentability>

I just try to be sensible and stay away from strongly scented flower
or other scents. We were in Lowe's (hardware) the other day, walked
past a lady that had way too much perfume on---even Steve commented on
it.

I am with you on that. Even though Gail says that my sense of smell
is half-defective, many artificial floral scents bother me. Things
such
as walking down the detergent isle in a grocery store are bothersome.

Me too; I try to spend as little time as possible in that aisle. Also,
the garden shop area of the big box stores--it's not the plants that
bother me but the pesticides and plant foods.

On one of our coach tours there was a stop at a Yankee Candle store.
I could not get through that store fast enough! When I was working

It wasn't possible to sit outside the store (on the bus) or did you have
to go in? They're another place I avoid, also the fancy bath/body wash
and soap stores at malls. Sometimes just walking past them is too much
of a scent overload.

there was a woman who often attended the same meetings I went to. I
tried to wait until she was seated and then get as far towards the
other end of
the conference table as possible.

I'd do the same. I've given up on wearing much of any perfume as I
noticed that when I did, I'd develop a headache. Didn't wear it and
notied no headache.

Title: SPICED LAMB TRIANGLES
Categories: Appetizer, Lamb
Yield: 24 Servings

They do sound good, maybe play around with it a bit and come up with
some sort of pie as a main dish.

BTW, we were in Publix yesterday--Steve found that they carry Cross and Blackwell Orange Marmalade. I don't remember if he said it was made with Seville oranges or not but will check next time we're in the store.

---
Catch you later,
Ruth
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On 02-09-19 15:12, Ruth Haffly <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Scents <=-

I just try to be sensible and stay away from strongly scented flower
or other scents. We were in Lowe's (hardware) the other day, walked
past a lady that had way too much perfume on---even Steve commented on
it.

<<SNIP>>

On one of our coach tours there was a stop at a Yankee Candle store.
I could not get through that store fast enough! When I was working

It wasn't possible to sit outside the store (on the bus) or did you
have to go in? They're another place I avoid, also the fancy bath/body wash and soap stores at malls. Sometimes just walking past them is too much of a scent overload.

They dropped us at one door and then picked us up at another door at the
other end of the store -- maybe 100 yards or more away.

there was a woman who often attended the same meetings I went to. I
tried to wait until she was seated and then get as far towards the
other end of
the conference table as possible.

I'd do the same. I've given up on wearing much of any perfume as I
noticed that when I did, I'd develop a headache. Didn't wear it and
notied no headache.

So -- perfume is your corn? :-}}



MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

Title: Mediterranean Torta
Categories: Appetizers, Vegetarian, Cheese/eggs
Yield: 22 Servings

1/2 c Sun-dried tomatoes
-(dry packed)
1 1/2 c Pine nuts; divided
12 tb Butter; softened, divided
6 oz Cream cheese; softened
4 oz Crumbled feta cheese
1 c Fresh basil
-OR parsley leaves
7 oz Jar roasted red peppers
- drained and patted dry

In a small bowl cover sun-dried tomatoes with boiling water let stand
until softened, about 20 minutes. Line a 7 x 3-inch loaf pan with
plastic wrap; set aside. Finely chop 1/4 cap of the pine nuts; put in
a small bowl. Add remaining 1/4 cup whole pine nuts and 1 tablespoon
of the butter; mix until butter is well distributed. Press in an even
layer into prepared pan. In a bowl using an electric mixer beat cream
cheese feta cheese and remaining 11 tablespoons butter until fluffy .
Spread a third of the cheese mixture over nuts. Drain and pat dry
softened tomatoes In a food processor or blender place tomatoes and
basil leaves; process until finely chopped, 30 to 60 seconds Spread
over cheese mixture; cover with even layers of half the remaining
cheese mixture then the red peppers and finally the remaining cheese
mixture. Cover and refrigerate until firm, about 3 hours. Unmold onto
a serving plate; serve with assorted crakers, if desired.

Yield: 22 servings

Nutritional Information

Per serving Calories 120
Total Fat 12 g Total Carbohydrate 2 g Protein 3 g Vitamin A 20 %DV
Calcium 4 mg

Copyright American Dairy Association (Reprinted with permission)

From: Iris Grayson Date: 08-05-96
Cooking

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Hi Dale,

I just try to be sensible and stay away from strongly scented flower
or other scents. We were in Lowe's (hardware) the other day, walked
past a lady that had way too much perfume on---even Steve commented on
it.

<<SNIP>>

On one of our coach tours there was a stop at a Yankee Candle store.
I could not get through that store fast enough! When I was working

It wasn't possible to sit outside the store (on the bus) or did you
have to go in? They're another place I avoid, also the fancy bath/body wash and soap stores at malls. Sometimes just walking past them is too much of a scent overload.

They dropped us at one door and then picked us up at another door at
the other end of the store -- maybe 100 yards or more away.

I would have asked them in advance if I could have stayed on the bus.
When we went to the Big Island, at one stop on the volcanoes area tour,
I got off the bus, walked across the street, turned around and walked
back across the street and on to the bus. I explained to the driver that
I was getting over bronchitis, had asthma and couldn't take the sulpher
fumes. He understood, let me stay on the bus.

there was a woman who often attended the same meetings I went to. I
tried to wait until she was seated and then get as far towards the
other end of
the conference table as possible.

I'd do the same. I've given up on wearing much of any perfume as I
noticed that when I did, I'd develop a headache. Didn't wear it and noticed no headache.

So -- perfume is your corn? :-}}

On someone else, if it's subtle, I can tolerate it. Overdone and I'll
get out of the area that person is in, ASAP. On me--haven't worn it in
about 15 years so I don't know how it would affect me now. I might give
it a try, with a light scent, but that's TBD right now.

Title: Mediterranean Torta
Categories: Appetizers, Vegetarian, Cheese/eggs
Yield: 22 Servings

1/2 c Sun-dried tomatoes
-(dry packed)
1 1/2 c Pine nuts; divided
12 tb Butter; softened, divided
6 oz Cream cheese; softened
4 oz Crumbled feta cheese
1 c Fresh basil
-OR parsley leaves
7 oz Jar roasted red peppers
- drained and patted dry

That looks almost, but not quite, like the one we had at Dimitri's the
one time. Steve made a replica of that one--have have him put this into
MM or Gourmet and make it--it does look good.

---
Catch you later,
Ruth
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