• 874 extended travel was again

    From MICHAEL LOO@1:123/140 to RUTH HAFFLY on Monday, January 28, 2019 11:30:26
    The 10c is the smallest common coin, but the
    5c is still legal tender. Anything smaller
    than 5 is not worth the metal it's stamped on.
    The rappen, for example, ended up containing
    2 to 3c worth of copper or whatever it was and
    ended up costing the mint 5c to manufacture,
    hence its demonetization a few years ago.
    OK, sort of like our pennies that he mint continues to crank out.

    Countries that have inflation but sort of
    stable economies have this minor issue, some
    secure enough to spend 4c to mint a 1c coin. I was
    surprised that given its reputation Switzerland
    had any at all and that there was such a thing
    as demonetization there. It could be much worse
    - in countries with really unstable currencies,
    the government may go, okay, we're starting over
    again, after another month, your money isn't
    good any more, trade it in quick for the new
    stuff or lose it forever. Which is bad for
    everyone and a measure of desperation. And when
    your poor innocent tourist (moi) comes by a
    few years later with fistfuls of old money, he
    can't even afford to get a taxicab to the bank.

    sufficient quantity can be changed at banks
    for other currency. These are all perfect
    candidates for UNICEF.
    Or a kid's coin collection.
    I wouldn't burden a kid with that!
    Some may enjoy the unique-ness of a no longer used coin.

    Only the very young or the very hoarder. I guess
    that describes a lot of coin collectors.

    napkin rings squirreled away in one of the boxes of stuff my brother
    has > to go thru.
    Again, if you have the option, you weigh the
    costs of soap and water and labor against the
    killing of trees. Or you can just not be a
    messy eater.
    Your choice but I still prefer to have a napkin, even if I'm not a messy eater.

    Until recently, in Asia napkins were not
    offered. With all this international tourism,
    they are no longer rare but usually cost extra.
    In fancy places. they're of course part of the
    European-style place setting, but nobody but
    the Europeans (and wannabes) use them.

    I speculate that that's what killed my sister.
    Interesting, I presume you've got some dots connected but not enough
    to > give you the full picture?
    At the time some plastics were being implicated
    in cancer, and that wasn't one of them, but I
    figure that with the improvement in assay
    techniques, the studies exonerating it will be
    discredited eventually. Though there should
    probably not be a ban on plastics, we really
    should start being more mindful about usin them.
    They are good in some instances--I'm sure you prefer them in your
    glasses than the glass lenses you probably had at one time.

    Durables of course aren't in question. I am not
    advocating banning airplanes and cars but am
    seriously questioning (always did) the wisdom
    of plastic packaging and plastics in prolonged
    contact with food and drink.

    Who knows. In this group I've decided to demote
    myself to either assistant concertmaster or
    principal second on a trial basis.
    How long a trial basis?

    Until I get repromoted or fired altogether,
    both of which are at least partially my own
    decision.

    Usually things don't cease to taste good for a
    long time, decades maybe. I'm not one of those
    fickle eaters.
    OTOH, I had enough same old, same old while growing up (especially with school lunches) that I enjoy different.

    I'm cooking for Bonnie's son in the not distant
    future - it'll be the one dinner where we overlap,
    me back in the States for a couple days and him on
    his way to Maine. Of course inquiries were in order
    about his food preferences, and it turns out he has
    a tiny comfort zone. He likes beef, potatoes,
    spaghetti with red sauce, salad, and shellfish (but
    not with spaghetti with red sauce). That's pretty
    much it. I've met even worse of course.

    Limburger pizza
    Since Steve won't let Limburger into the house, I'll have to pass on this recipe. (G)
    Oh, and your heart is surely broken.
    Absolutly NOT!

    Heh.

    Old spoiled reindeer with the hair insufficiently
    scraped off is kind of my line in the sand.
    I'v not had that nor do I want to try it. But, I'll go vegetarian as a
    change of pace sometimes.

    If you'd been able to go to the Montreal Munch
    in the late '90s you'd have had the opportunity.

    It was a dough designed for Flammekuechen, so
    essentially a Wonderlike white bread with milk
    in it (still trying to get rid of that gallon).
    Nasty stuff, if I may say so myself. People
    liked it. Unduplicatable but approximatable.
    This is pretty close.
    Easy white bread (no egg)
    Easily forgettable, IMO. (G)

    Of course. It had been designed as the base of
    what essentially was going to be a thin-crust
    pizza. No need for memorable, not that I'd know
    how to make a memorable (in a good way) loaf.

    This might be memorable, though not in a good way.

    ---------- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v7.05

    Title: Dillbrot (Dill Bread)
    Categories: Breads, Cheese/eggs, Vegetables
    Servings: 4

    1 pk Yeast; active dry 1 c Cottage cheese; creamed
    *
    2 tb Sugar 1 tb Onion; minced
    1 tb Butter; melted 1 Egg; large
    1 ts Salt 2 ts Dillseed
    2 1/4 c Flour; unbleached or bread

    * Creamed Cottage Cheese should be heated to lukewarm.

    Dissolve yeast in warm water. Combine all ingredients in a mixing bowl,
    except add the flour a little at a time (it may take up to 2 1/2 cups of
    flour). Beat until well mixed and mixture is stiff but not heavy.
    (Standard bread dough feeling). Cover and let rise in a warm place until
    doubled. Punch down and put dough in a bread pan, or arrange in a round
    shape on a greased cookie sheet. Let rise again. Bake for 30 to 45
    minutes
    at 350 degrees F. While warm, bursh loaf with soft butter, sprinkle well
    with salt. Makes 1 loaf.
    Source: a file called BREADS.MMF

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to MICHAEL LOO on Monday, January 28, 2019 17:18:22
    Hi Michael,

    than 5 is not worth the metal it's stamped on.
    The rappen, for example, ended up containing
    2 to 3c worth of copper or whatever it was and
    ended up costing the mint 5c to manufacture,
    hence its demonetization a few years ago.
    OK, sort of like our pennies that the mint continues to crank
    out.

    Countries that have inflation but sort of
    stable economies have this minor issue, some
    secure enough to spend 4c to mint a 1c coin. I was

    There has been discussions over the years about doing away with it--the
    US facilities (except for banks and the post office) did so in Germany.
    PX and commissary prices were always rounded to the nearest nickel. A
    bit of a bother at times but it probably sort of evened out in the long
    run.


    surprised that given its reputation Switzerland
    had any at all and that there was such a thing
    as demonetization there. It could be much worse
    - in countries with really unstable currencies,
    the government may go, okay, we're starting over
    again, after another month, your money isn't
    good any more, trade it in quick for the new
    stuff or lose it forever. Which is bad for

    That is all aroud bad.

    everyone and a measure of desperation. And when
    your poor innocent tourist (moi) comes by a
    few years later with fistfuls of old money, he
    can't even afford to get a taxicab to the bank.

    Reminds me of what I read about post WWI inflation in Germany.

    sufficient quantity can be changed at banks
    for other currency. These are all perfect
    candidates for UNICEF.
    Or a kid's coin collection.
    I wouldn't burden a kid with that!
    Some may enjoy the unique-ness of a no longer used coin.

    Only the very young or the very hoarder. I guess
    that describes a lot of coin collectors.

    Both the serious ones and the ones that collect only what happens to
    come their way. I'm sort of the latter, having had a limited travel opportunity.

    napkin rings squirreled away in one of the boxes of stuff my
    brother > ML> has > to go thru.
    Again, if you have the option, you weigh the
    costs of soap and water and labor against the
    killing of trees. Or you can just not be a
    messy eater.
    Your choice but I still prefer to have a napkin, even if I'm not a
    messy > eater.

    Until recently, in Asia napkins were not
    offered. With all this international tourism,
    they are no longer rare but usually cost extra.
    In fancy places. they're of course part of the
    European-style place setting, but nobody but
    the Europeans (and wannabes) use them.

    So if we ever go to Asia, I need to bring over a roll of paper towels or similar to use as napkins in everyday places? (G)

    I speculate that that's what killed my sister.
    Interesting, I presume you've got some dots connected but not
    enough > ML> to > give you the full picture?
    At the time some plastics were being implicated
    in cancer, and that wasn't one of them, but I
    figure that with the improvement in assay
    techniques, the studies exonerating it will be
    discredited eventually. Though there should
    probably not be a ban on plastics, we really
    should start being more mindful about usin them.
    They are good in some instances--I'm sure you prefer them in your glasses than the glass lenses you probably had at one time.

    Durables of course aren't in question. I am not
    advocating banning airplanes and cars but am
    seriously questioning (always did) the wisdom
    of plastic packaging and plastics in prolonged
    contact with food and drink.

    And your solution is....................?

    Who knows. In this group I've decided to demote
    myself to either assistant concertmaster or
    principal second on a trial basis.
    How long a trial basis?

    Until I get repromoted or fired altogether,
    both of which are at least partially my own
    decision.

    Do it as long as you enjoy it. Then consider if it's worth the time, etc
    to continue.

    Usually things don't cease to taste good for a
    long time, decades maybe. I'm not one of those
    fickle eaters.
    OTOH, I had enough same old, same old while growing up (especially
    with > school lunches) that I enjoy different.

    I'm cooking for Bonnie's son in the not distant
    future - it'll be the one dinner where we overlap,
    me back in the States for a couple days and him on
    his way to Maine. Of course inquiries were in order
    about his food preferences, and it turns out he has
    a tiny comfort zone. He likes beef, potatoes,
    spaghetti with red sauce, salad, and shellfish (but
    not with spaghetti with red sauce). That's pretty
    much it. I've met even worse of course.

    But you do have some wiggle room there. Fish stew with salad on the
    side? Roast beef with roasted potatoes on the side, maybe Yorkshire
    pudding also?


    Limburger pizza
    Since Steve won't let Limburger into the house, I'll have to
    pass on > ML> > this recipe. (G)
    Oh, and your heart is surely broken.
    Absolutly NOT!

    Heh.

    He had a bad experience with it in the years before I met him.

    Old spoiled reindeer with the hair insufficiently
    scraped off is kind of my line in the sand.
    I'v not had that nor do I want to try it. But, I'll go vegetarian as
    a > change of pace sometimes.

    If you'd been able to go to the Montreal Munch
    in the late '90s you'd have had the opportunity.

    I had to read about it; we were in AZ at the time. It may have been the
    year Steve was in Korea.


    It was a dough designed for Flammekuechen, so
    essentially a Wonderlike white bread with milk
    in it (still trying to get rid of that gallon).
    Nasty stuff, if I may say so myself. People
    liked it. Unduplicatable but approximatable.
    This is pretty close.
    Easy white bread (no egg)
    Easily forgettable, IMO. (G)

    Of course. It had been designed as the base of
    what essentially was going to be a thin-crust
    pizza. No need for memorable, not that I'd know
    how to make a memorable (in a good way) loaf.

    This might be memorable, though not in a good way.

    Title: Dillbrot (Dill Bread)
    Categories: Breads, Cheese/eggs, Vegetables
    Servings: 4

    I've seen similar recipies, been tempted to try them but never have.
    IIRC, some have a rye flour component.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Ruth Haffly on Wednesday, January 30, 2019 02:20:08
    On 01-28-19 16:18, Ruth Haffly <=-
    spoke to Michael Loo about 874 extended travel was a <=-

    OK, sort of like our pennies that the mint continues to crank
    out.

    Countries that have inflation but sort of
    stable economies have this minor issue, some
    secure enough to spend 4c to mint a 1c coin. I was

    There has been discussions over the years about doing away with
    it--the US facilities (except for banks and the post office) did so in Germany. PX and commissary prices were always rounded to the nearest nickel. A bit of a bother at times but it probably sort of evened out
    in the long run.

    When we were in Englan in early 70's US pennies were not allowed at any
    of the American bases. It was not for the reasons above, but because
    they were a very close match to one of the British coins worth ten times
    as much. Close enough to be accepted by various coin operated machines,
    and not so close as to sometimes jam those machines.
    Only the very young or the very hoarder. I guess
    that describes a lot of coin collectors.

    Both the serious ones and the ones that collect only what happens to
    come their way. I'm sort of the latter, having had a limited travel opportunity.

    We have two sorts of collections. One is a few boxes in the closet of
    USA silver coins snatched up when they were still in circulation. At
    one time they were worth ten times their face value, but then the market dropped back down to near par. Our other collection you might have
    seen. It consists of coins from the places we visited while over there.
    Gail had them mounted with a black velvet background and it is hung over
    her chair in the family / TV room.



    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

    Title: QUICK JAMAICAN CHICKEN WINGS
    Categories: Poultry, Appetizers
    Yield: 24 Pieces

    1/4 c Molasses
    2 tb Rum
    Salt
    1/4 ts Ground allspice
    1/8 ts Connamon
    1/8 ts Nutmeg
    1 tb Oil
    12 ea Chicken wings (2 lbs)

    Make a marinade by combining the molasses, rum, salt, allspice,
    cinnamon, nutmeg and oil.

    Remove the wing tips and discard. Cut the winds at the joint into 2
    pieces. Add to the marinade. Let marinate, refrigerated, at least 4
    hours.

    Heat oven to 400F

    Remove the wings from the marinade and put on a rack in a broiler
    pan. Bake until browned and cooked through, turning and brushing with
    marinade halfway through, about 30 minutes.

    Preparation time: 15 min; total time 45 min (plus chilling time) Per
    serving: Cal 55; Pro 4g; Fat 3g; Sod 150mg; Carb 2g; Chol 12mg

    Spource: (Women) First Magazine 1/13/92 [PAM/94]

    MMMMM




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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dale Shipp on Thursday, January 31, 2019 21:52:51
    Hi Dale,


    Countries that have inflation but sort of
    stable economies have this minor issue, some
    secure enough to spend 4c to mint a 1c coin. I was

    There has been discussions over the years about doing away with
    it--the US facilities (except for banks and the post office) did so in Germany. PX and commissary prices were always rounded to the nearest nickel. A bit of a bother at times but it probably sort of evened out
    in the long run.

    When we were in Englan in early 70's US pennies were not allowed at
    any of the American bases. It was not for the reasons above, but
    because
    they were a very close match to one of the British coins worth ten
    times as much. Close enough to be accepted by various coin operated machines, and not so close as to sometimes jam those machines.

    Smart reason to not allow it. Before Steve went into the Army, he worked
    at MCAS Cherry Point, filling soda machines. He found a number of coins
    from other countries that were less than the cost of a soda being used.
    Usually when he'd find one, he'd put in the price of a soda and bring
    the other coin home; I think I might have some of them kicking around
    still.

    Only the very young or the very hoarder. I guess
    that describes a lot of coin collectors.

    Both the serious ones and the ones that collect only what happens to
    come their way. I'm sort of the latter, having had a limited travel opportunity.

    We have two sorts of collections. One is a few boxes in the closet of
    USA silver coins snatched up when they were still in circulation. At
    one time they were worth ten times their face value, but then the
    market dropped back down to near par. Our other collection you might have
    seen. It consists of coins from the places we visited while over
    there. Gail had them mounted with a black velvet background and it is
    hung over her chair in the family / TV room.

    I've seen the latter one. I've got a few older silver coins but never
    seriously set out to acquire any. Most all of the coins I have in my "collection" are ones I got in change or from travel, nothing super
    valuable.

    Title: QUICK JAMAICAN CHICKEN WINGS
    Categories: Poultry, Appetizers
    Yield: 24 Pieces

    Super Bowl munchies theme?

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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