• recipe data program

    From Alan Beck@1:229/426.36 to All on Saturday, January 26, 2019 08:24:44

    Hello everybody!

    What is the most popular and supported by this echo Recipe program and Database.

    Could not find meal master, looks old. I downloaded Paprika, but am unable to figure out what to do with it.

    I need no carb recipes and gluten free.

    It is for cooking for my wife, I like to eat regular.

    Regards,

    Alan


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  • From Stephen Haffly@1:396/45.27 to Alan Beck on Saturday, January 26, 2019 14:56:48
    Hello Alan,

    What is the most popular and supported by this echo Recipe program and Database.

    MealMaster is the most used.

    Could not find meal master, looks old. I downloaded Paprika, but am
    unable to figure out what to do with it.

    Yes, MealMaster is old and no longer maintained. It was changed from
    shareware to non-maintained freeware some years ago IIRC. There are some alternatives. One that I use is Gourmet Recipe Manager which is open
    source and free to download. Donations are requested.

    https://thinkle.github.io/gourmet/

    The program will run on multiple platforms including Windows, Linux, Mac
    OSX and other Unix type platforms. See web site for specifics. It is in
    the Fedora Linux repositories so it is easy for me to install it. It
    does import MealMaster recipes as well as other formats. It exports
    also, but the MealMaster export is not quite standard so importing a MM
    file exported from Gourmet usually means tweaking the file in a text
    editor first.

    I need no carb recipes and gluten free.

    Those type recipes show up from time to time.

    It is for cooking for my wife, I like to eat regular.

    Here is one:

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm)

    Title: Gluten Free Vanilla Wafers
    Categories: American, Desserts
    Cooktime: 15 minutes
    Preparation Time: 20 minutes
    Link: http://glutenfreerecipebox.com/gluten-free-vanilla-wafers/

    1/2 c superfine white rice flour
    1/4 c superfine brown rice flour
    3 tb potato starch
    1 tb tapioca starch
    1/4 t xanthan gum (or guar gum, for corn-free)
    3/4 t baking powder
    1/3-1/2 t salt (optional: increase to 1/2 teaspoon)
    1/2 c Butter (1 stick) (or Earth Balance spread), at room temperature
    1/3 c Sugar (or sugar-free substitute: birch derived xylitol, etc.)
    1 tb Sugar (or sugar-free substitute: birch derived xylitol, etc.)
    1 lg egg
    4 t pure vanilla extract
    1 tb milk (cow's, almond, GF rice, etc.)


    1. Preheat oven to 350F. Line baking sheet with parchment paper.

    2. Sift together the flour with the baking powder, and set aside.

    3. In the bowl of your mixer, cream together the butter and sugar on
    medium speed for 2 minutes, scraping sides of bowl once mixed.

    4. Add the egg and blend just until incorporate, scraping bowl as
    needed.

    5. Add the milk and vanilla; and blend just until incorporated.

    6. Add the flour mixture a little bit at a time, scraping the bowl, if
    needed. Place in the refrigerator to chill for about 25 minutes.

    7. Scoop 1/2 tablespoon of the batter onto your oiled hands and roll
    into a ball. Add them to the prepared baking sheet, spaced about 1/2"
    to 1" apart. They don't spread. With oiled hands shape into desired
    form (round, oval, etc.) and press each piece of cookie dough to
    flatten to about 1 3/4 - 2" round or longer and narrower for oblong
    (rectangle or oval).

    8. Bake for 15 minutes (or 17-18 minutes for browned edges and
    crispness ), rotating the pan halfway through the baking process for
    even browning.

    9. Transfer the cookies, along with parchment paper, to a cooling rack
    to cool completely.


    Source: Carla's Gluten Free Recipe Box

    Variations:

    Substitute some of the vanilla for either lemon extract, lemon juice,
    almond extract, or add lemon zest.

    Bake them in bite size pieces by using 1 teaspoon instead of 1/2
    tablespoon, and reduce the baking time.

    If you only have regular rice flour on hand, to prevent some of the
    grittiness of rice flour, grind the flour in a coffee grinder.
    Superfine rice flours are not gritty at all.

    You may shape them in any shape you desire, such as oval for use as
    milano cookies which you would fill them with firm/chilled Chocolate
    Ganache or Dairy-Free Raw Ganache. Just make them thinner and reduce
    cooking time.

    They do not brown much, but darken upon cooling. If you should desire
    a more yellow cookie, use all white rice flour and some lemon juice,
    zest, food coloring (Select Tea makes a natural one), or add a couple
    dashes of tumeric (not too much).


    MMMMM


    Regards,

    Stephen
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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Alan Beck on Sunday, January 27, 2019 01:24:06
    On 01-26-19 07:24, Alan Beck <=-
    spoke to All about recipe data program <=-


    Hello everybody!

    What is the most popular and supported by this echo Recipe program and Database.

    Any and all or none recipe formats are supported by this echo. There is
    no requirement to use any particular program. I see Stephen's reply to
    you about what he uses. I still use Meal Master, but have to jump
    through a few hoops to do so since it will not run in Win7 or later by
    itself. I use a DOS emulator called vDOS to run it. I've stuck with it
    mainly because I like the program, its search ability and the fact that
    I have several hundred megabytes of recipes stored in it.

    A site for MM is www.garvick.com/recipes/mm.htm.

    Could not find meal master, looks old. I downloaded Paprika, but am
    unable to figure out what to do with it.

    I had never heard of Paprika until you mentioned it and it came up on a
    search, so I cannot help you there.

    In addition to the program Stephen mentioned, there is another program
    that Dave Drum uses and likes. Hopefully, he will see your request and
    point you to it -- and can give some assistance here in getting it set
    up. I don't recall the name right now.

    Given the number of MM recipes that get posted here and on the web, I'd recommend getting a program that allows for easy import of that format.
    Since you are just starting out, you'd also want a program that can run
    on the operating system you are using without the work-a-rounds that I
    need to use for Meal Master.

    I need no carb recipes and gluten free.

    That sounds like pure carnivore -- should not be that hard. Tell us a
    bit more about what sorts of foods the two of you like. Spicy, mild,
    classical American, Indian, Cajun, etc.

    It is for cooking for my wife, I like to eat regular.

    Sounds like you could eat what is for her -- and then add in your own
    starches and breads.

    BTW, my records would indicate that you have posted in the COOKING echo
    before -- but more than two decades ago. Stick around this time. It is
    now a pretty small, but very friendly group.

    I think that this should be ok for her. No carb rules out pasta,
    vegetables, rice, etc. Gluten free also rules out pasta and bread. I
    am not sure about things such as cheese, cream cheese, mayo. So give
    the group some guidance and we'll be happy to help.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

    Title: Peppered Meat Marinade
    Categories: Barbecue, Narinade, Beef, D/g
    Yield: 1 servings

    1/4 c Oil
    3 tb Soy sauce
    2 tb White vinegar
    1 tb Seasoned Pepper
    1 1/2 ts Garlic powder
    1 ts Italian seasoning
    ds Meat tenderizer
    1 lb Sirloin or other steak

    Combine first six ingredients in a large self closing plastic bag or
    shallow glass dish.

    Add steak and refrigerate 30 to 60 miutes. Remove steak, discard
    marinade. Grill or broil to desired doneness.

    MMMMM


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  • From Dave Drum@1:229/452 to Dale Shipp on Sunday, January 27, 2019 14:16:52
    Dale Shipp wrote to Alan Beck <=-

    What is the most popular and supported by this echo Recipe program and Database.

    Any and all or none recipe formats are supported by this echo. There
    is no requirement to use any particular program. I see Stephen's reply
    to you about what he uses. I still use Meal Master, but have to jump through a few hoops to do so since it will not run in Win7 or later by itself. I use a DOS emulator called vDOS to run it. I've stuck with
    it mainly because I like the program, its search ability and the fact
    that I have several hundred megabytes of recipes stored in it.

    The culprit there is not necessarily Windows (of whatever version) but
    whether you are running the 32-bit or 64-bit installation of same. I
    was told by an "expert" that any 32-bit version of Windows will run DOS programs - like MMconv and Meal Master, etc. just like W2000/XP used to.

    So, I put a 32-bit version of 10 on an older box I had and VOILA! it
    works. But a lot of my other useful and "habituated" applications don't
    like the lesser environment .... so I use vDos which works out quite
    nicely.

    A site for MM is www.garvick.com/recipes/mm.htm.

    Could not find meal master, looks old. I downloaded Paprika, but am
    unable to figure out what to do with it.

    I had never heard of Paprika until you mentioned it and it came up on a search, so I cannot help you there.

    In addition to the program Stephen mentioned, there is another program that Dave Drum uses and likes. Hopefully, he will see your request and point you to it -- and can give some assistance here in getting it set
    up. I don't recall the name right now.

    You may have me confused with Clean Dave (absent these several years).
    I'm a Meal Muncher guy. My directory (named Muncher) is currently at 250 megabytes - programs and data. I think Sacerdote was pushing "Now You're Cooking" which is OK, I guess. I downloaded the trial version and played
    with it extensively - but, in the end I blew it away to save the disk
    space.

    Given the number of MM recipes that get posted here and on the web, I'd recommend getting a program that allows for easy import of that format. Since you are just starting out, you'd also want a program that can run
    on the operating system you are using without the work-a-rounds that I need to use for Meal Master.

    I need no carb recipes and gluten free.


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    I think that this should be ok for her. No carb rules out pasta, vegetables, rice, etc. Gluten free also rules out pasta and bread. I
    am not sure about things such as cheese, cream cheese, mayo. So give
    the group some guidance and we'll be happy to help.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

    Title: Peppered Meat Marinade
    Categories: Barbecue, Narinade, Beef, D/g
    Yield: 1 servings

    This is low carb and gluten free. Thank providence I have no dietary restrictions other than restricting my sugar intake due to my diabetes.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Cabbage Lasagna
    Categories: Greens, Cheese, Sauces, Beef, Pork
    Yield: 20 servings

    1 Head cabbage
    3 lb Ricotta cheese
    1 1/2 c Parmesan cheese; grated
    1/4 c Dried parsley; opt
    3 lg Eggs
    2 lb Ground meat; browned *
    40 oz No sugar added marinara
    - sauce
    32 oz Fresh mozzarella; sliced
    - or shredded
    1/4 c Parmesan; grated (opt)

    * Meatloaf mix

    Carefully remove leaves from cabbage head.

    Parboil leaves in salted boiling water for 5-10 minutes.
    Drain and remove excess water with towel. After boiling
    the cabbage leaves, they should be soft and tender.

    Mix ricotta and parmesan cheese with eggs and parsley
    (if using). Set aside.

    Stir marinara sauce into browned meat.

    Spread about 3/4 cup sauce onto bottom of 11" x 15"
    baking pan.

    Place a layer of cooked cabbage leaves over sauce.

    Spread half ricotta cheese mixture over cabbage leaves.

    Top cheese mixture with half the remaining sauce.

    Cover sauce with half the mozzarella cheese.

    Repeat layers.

    Top off with additional parmesan cheese if desired.

    Bake 350°F/175°C for about 25 minutes.

    CABBAGE LASAGNA - LOW CARB AND GLUTEN FREE Amount Per
    Serving (379 g) Calories 451 Calories from Fat 306

    % Daily Value* Total Fat 34g 52%; Saturated Fat 17g 85%
    Cholesterol 131mg 44%; Sodium 511mg 21%;

    Total Carbohydrates 9g 3%; Dietary Fiber 1g 4%; Sugars
    3g; Protein 27g

    RECIPE FROM: https://lowcarbyum.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

    MMMMM

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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Dave Drum on Sunday, January 27, 2019 18:02:18
    Hello Dave.

    27 Jan 19 13:16, you wrote to Dale Shipp:

    The culprit there is not necessarily Windows (of whatever version) but whether you are running the 32-bit or 64-bit installation of same. I
    was told by an "expert" that any 32-bit version of Windows will run
    DOS programs - like MMconv and Meal Master, etc. just like W2000/XP
    used to.

    These days, I'd recommend using a DOS emulator (vDOS, DOSbox) under anything newer than Windows 7, 32-bit or no. I use MM under DOSbox with 64-bit Windows 10 and 64-bit Slackware Linux without issues. On the OS/2 box, DOS is native.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: CATHY'S BAKED CHICKEN
    Categories: Poultry, Main dish, Low-cal
    Yield: 4 Servings

    2 ea Chicken breasts, halved
    1/2 t Onion powder
    1/4 t Cayenne pepper
    1/3 c Plain low-fat yogurt
    1 c Fresh bread crumbs
    1/2 t Garlic powder
    1/8 t Ground ginger

    Preheat oven to 400F. Lightly spray a medium size shallow baking dish
    with vegetable spray. Rinse chicken and pat dry. In a shallow pan,
    combine bread crumbs, onion powder, garlic powder, cayenne pepper and
    ginger. Dip chicken in yogurt, then into crumb mixture. Place in
    prepared dish. Bake uncovered, 45 to 50 min, or until tender. Cal:
    254, Fat: 5 g.

    MMMMM

    Later,
    Sean

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  • From JIM WELLER@1:123/140 to ALAN BECK on Sunday, January 27, 2019 23:20:00

    Quoting Alan Beck to All <=-

    What is the most popular and supported by this echo Recipe
    program and Database. Could not find meal master, looks old.

    Hi Alan

    Meal Master IS old. It's a DOS program and won't run in Windows in
    any version newer than XP.

    It was THE recipe database back in the golden age of BBSing prior to
    universal access to the internet. Back then USENET and the early
    mail list users generally preferred the competing MasterCook
    program, if they formatted recipes and stored them in databases at
    all. This was not a big issue as the two programs recognized each
    other and could import each others stuff.

    In recent years a lot of people seem to like Windows based "Now
    You're Cooking" and like most other recipe programs it recognises
    Meal Master format which was the standard for so long.

    I still use Meal Master myself being old school. It's freeware and
    you can google places to download from, if you want to.

    You can of course post free form recipes here and save stuff you
    like in a text file and search it for key words when you want to
    retrieve something.

    I need no carb recipes and gluten free.
    It is for cooking for my wife, I like to eat regular.

    Just to guide us ...

    Is she doing the keto diet where she tries to keep her carbs under
    20 grams per day?

    And is she a true Celiac and so totally gluten free or just trying
    to keep her gluten intake really low?

    I'll start posting batches of relevant things here shortly.





    Cheers

    Jim


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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Dave Drum on Monday, January 28, 2019 01:55:00
    On 01-27-19 13:16, Dave Drum <=-
    spoke to Dale Shipp about recipe data program <=-

    In addition to the program Stephen mentioned, there is another program that Dave Drum uses and likes. Hopefully, he will see your request and point you to it -- and can give some assistance here in getting it set
    up. I don't recall the name right now.

    You may have me confused with Clean Dave (absent these several years).
    I'm a Meal Muncher guy. My directory (named Muncher) is currently at
    250 megabytes - programs and data. I think Sacerdote was pushing "Now You're Cooking" which is OK, I guess. I downloaded the trial version
    and played with it extensively - but, in the end I blew it away to save the disk space.

    I think I got confused in another direction. Weren't you touting a
    replacement for BlueWave called Multimail?


    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

    Title: Honey Mustard Chicken Bites
    Categories: Chicken, Appetizer, Tabasco
    Yield: 6 servings

    1/3 c Spicy Brown Mustard
    3 tb Honey
    2 tb Catsup
    1 Minced Garlic Clove
    1/2 ts Tabasco Pepper Sauce
    1 lb Boned, Skinless Chicken
    - Breasts, Cut Into 1 Inch
    - Pieces

    These tangy chunks of chicken, easily made with "on hand"
    ingredients, are a good change of pace from Buffalo chicken wings.

    In a medium bowl, mix the mustard, honey, catsup, garlic and Tabasco
    sauce.

    Set aside 1/4 cup of the mixture; add the chicken to the rest and
    stir to coat. Cover and refrigerate for at least 1 hour, stirring
    occasionally.

    Preheat the broiler. Arrange the chicken pieces on a rack in the
    broiler pan and broil, turning once and brushing with the marinade,
    until the chicken is tender, about 10 minutes. Serve with the
    reserved sauce as a dip.

    Lagniappe - Before breading veal, chickem, or shrimp, add 1/2
    teaspoon of Tabasco sauce to the milk or egg dip for extra flavor.

    From: The Tabasco Cookbook.

    MMMMM


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  • From Shawn Highfield@1:229/452.4 to Alan Beck on Monday, January 28, 2019 11:51:26
    Quoting Alan Beck to All <=-

    Could not find meal master, looks old. I downloaded Paprika, but am
    unable to figure out what to do with it.

    I use meal master, and a web site called BigOven.com Big oven has lots of
    options for searching for what you want.

    I need no carb recipes and gluten free.

    My wife has celiac so we've been gluten free for 7 years or so now. Once
    you get used to the saw dust flavour it's not that bad. <LOL>

    Shawn

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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Dale Shipp on Monday, January 28, 2019 17:28:24
    Hi Dale,

    I think I got confused in another direction. Weren't you touting a replacement for BlueWave called Multimail?

    It's what I use on all of my computers. It works quite well and is still supported though it's a mature program. I use it under DOS, OS/2, Windows, and
    Linux without issues.

    (No recipe for now as I am on my work laptop and logged in via remote.)

    Later,
    Sean


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