• 832 travel was crusty again

    From MICHAEL LOO@1:123/140 to RUTH HAFFLY on Thursday, January 17, 2019 02:01:52
    Hard to say what was known by whom. Many
    tribes and communities had someone who had
    traveled and was gifted with languages and
    might have served as an interpreter with other
    tribes including the white folks. I don't know
    As I understand, there was a relatively common sign language used by the various tribes. Some tribes may have had a member who knew other
    languages but if I recall what I read years ago correctly, this sign
    language was the primary form of inter-tribal communication.

    I know that was true among the eastern peoples.
    Didn't know that about the west.

    of any contemporary accounts of what their
    command of other languages actually was.
    We could research it out, but is it worth the time/effort?

    If you focus on the thorns, ... .

    of real class differences. I wonder if all the
    episodes were directed by the same person, and
    Probably a good number of them for the series shows.
    Some of them, but if you look at the
    records, a lot of episodes had directors
    hired just for that one or a limited run.
    Probably didn't pay enough to make a decent living on.

    Not sure. You see people on IMDb with scanty
    credits who seem to have made a name for
    themselves. Did they spend the rest of their
    time parking cars and pumping gas?

    if not, why wasn't there a handbook of Indians.
    There were, but not real Indians for the most part.
    How?
    White men ruled--and played almost every part.

    That was sort of a joke. If it weren't, I'd have
    said "why."

    Simpler times when those shows were made.
    And they weren't concerned with what viewers
    50 or 60 years later would be concerned with.
    They probably didn't think copies of the shows would still be around 50
    or 60 years later.
    on what I thought was the Wikipedia article
    and was highjacked to a site that, well, let's
    just say that I had to run a virus scan.
    OOPS! Hope your system is well de-bugged now.
    The headline on the Google listing was List of
    Natural Redheads - Wikipedia, so I could have
    been forgiven for clicking on it.
    Understandable.

    Irritating, though.

    he talks in stereotypical buck-toothed Jap talk,
    and I don't. Not to mention, Hiro Sone is a
    genius, or as close to as makes no difference.
    And you make no claims to be so?

    I am pretty gifted in a bunch of fields; no
    breakthrough genius, though, that I can
    discern. I have had friends in that category,
    and their accomplishments make other folks'
    seem like small potatoes.

    If you're not into that kind of thing.
    Not really.
    You might vary your routine now and then.
    Some things are just not our "cuppa tea", especially if it's downgrading people.

    Depends. I give people a pass if they are
    showing their own frailties as well as
    pointing out others'. And there are those who
    deserve to be ridiculed, but they are
    relatively few and far between.

    Even I go to church once in a while. Or the
    opera, which is worse.
    Steve's not an opera fan either. I think I would enjoy some, more for
    the story/acting than the music.

    There was a big discussion about that, between
    Hoffmansthal and Richard Strauss. The standard
    formulation is, which is to be first, the words
    or the music. Strauss's answer, which I agree
    with, was "Primo la musica, dopo le parole" -
    i.e., the music first, then the words.

    Considering that the recommended feeding
    regimen is once every week or two, and you
    can neglect them for SIX MONTHS before they
    get endangered, it would seem that in some
    ways snakes might be the ideal emotional
    support animal for a long journey. Oh, other
    than they likely won't provide much support.
    No, and other passengers might need support animals after seeing a
    snake. (G)

    There is that.

    Yes, you do miss a lot of chances to expand your culinary horizons
    that > way. (G)
    I had a friend who ate nothing but ground
    beef, white rice, and boiled green beans.
    Every night. For years.
    Bor-ring!

    He was the executor of the Warhol estate, so
    there were probably other interesting things
    in his life.

    A lifetime, if taken all at once!
    For sure!
    To paraphrase a pizza chain ad:
    "Seizure. Seizure."
    Basically so.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.01

    Title: Aromatic Broth with Vegetable Slivers
    Categories: Thai, Soups
    Yield: 4 servings

    1 Stalk Lemon Grass 1 1/2 tb Salt
    4 c Cubed Chicken Meat Pepper To Taste
    Chicken Or Fish Stock 3 oz Snow Peas
    1/2 c Sliced Cilantro Leaves 1 md Carrot, Peeled
    1 Serrano Or Jalapeno Chili 4 md Radishes
    1/2 ts Grated Lime Zest Green Part of 1
    Scallion
    Lime Juice To Taste 2 tb Whole Cilantro Leaves

    1. Cut lemon grass in 2-inch pieces; bruise lightly. Combine with stock,
    cilantro stems, chili, and lime zest in sauce pan. Simmer, covered, 15
    minutes (halfway through, taste and remove hot pepper, if desired, or
    leave
    in longer for more heat).

    2. Strain. (Solids can be re-used with more cilantro to flavor another
    batch of broth.) Add lime juice, salt and pepper.

    3. Cut snow peas in thin diagonal strips. With vegetable peeler shave 2
    inch ribbons of carrot. Thinly slice radishes and scallion.

    4. Bring soup to a boil: stir in snow peas and carrots and boil until
    just
    tender --about 1 1/2 minutes. Stir in radishes, scallion, and cilantro;
    bring to a boil. Serve at once.

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to MICHAEL LOO on Monday, January 21, 2019 15:22:30
    Hi Michael,

    might have served as an interpreter with other
    tribes including the white folks. I don't know
    As I understand, there was a relatively common sign language used by
    the > various tribes. Some tribes may have had a member who knew other
    languages but if I recall what I read years ago correctly, this sign language was the primary form of inter-tribal communication.

    I know that was true among the eastern peoples.
    Didn't know that about the west.

    From what I've read, it was common among the western and plains tribes
    as well.

    of any contemporary accounts of what their
    command of other languages actually was.
    We could research it out, but is it worth the time/effort?

    If you focus on the thorns, ... .

    I know, and sometimes I don't have time to even do more than a glancing
    look at the roses.

    of real class differences. I wonder if all the
    episodes were directed by the same person, and
    Probably a good number of them for the series shows.
    Some of them, but if you look at the
    records, a lot of episodes had directors
    hired just for that one or a limited run.
    Probably didn't pay enough to make a decent living on.

    Not sure. You see people on IMDb with scanty
    credits who seem to have made a name for
    themselves. Did they spend the rest of their
    time parking cars and pumping gas?

    Don't know, and have enough other projects to consider researching it
    now.

    if not, why wasn't there a handbook of Indians.
    There were, but not real Indians for the most part.
    How?
    White men ruled--and played almost every part.

    That was sort of a joke. If it weren't, I'd have
    said "why."

    Figured so, just gave the straight answer for those who needed it.

    and was highjacked to a site that, well, let's
    just say that I had to run a virus scan.
    OOPS! Hope your system is well de-bugged now.
    The headline on the Google listing was List of
    Natural Redheads - Wikipedia, so I could have
    been forgiven for clicking on it.
    Understandable.

    Irritating, though.

    Quite so, one would think.


    he talks in stereotypical buck-toothed Jap talk,
    and I don't. Not to mention, Hiro Sone is a
    genius, or as close to as makes no difference.
    And you make no claims to be so?

    I am pretty gifted in a bunch of fields; no
    breakthrough genius, though, that I can
    discern. I have had friends in that category,
    and their accomplishments make other folks'
    seem like small potatoes.

    But small potatoes are good for a number of dishes where you wouldn't
    want the larger ones.

    Not really.
    You might vary your routine now and then.
    Some things are just not our "cuppa tea", especially if it's
    downgrading > people.

    Depends. I give people a pass if they are
    showing their own frailties as well as
    pointing out others'. And there are those who
    deserve to be ridiculed, but they are
    relatively few and far between.

    I try not to, tho it means biting my tongue sometimes.

    Even I go to church once in a while. Or the
    opera, which is worse.
    Steve's not an opera fan either. I think I would enjoy some, more
    for > the story/acting than the music.

    There was a big discussion about that, between
    Hoffmansthal and Richard Strauss. The standard
    formulation is, which is to be first, the words
    or the music. Strauss's answer, which I agree
    with, was "Primo la musica, dopo le parole" -
    i.e., the music first, then the words.

    Coming from a musician. OTOH, my background is more writing so.....

    ways snakes might be the ideal emotional
    support animal for a long journey. Oh, other
    than they likely won't provide much support.
    No, and other passengers might need support animals after seeing a snake. (G)

    There is that.

    As long as the dog doesn't chase the cat; the cat, the mouse, etc. (G)


    Yes, you do miss a lot of chances to expand your culinary
    horizons > ML> that > way. (G)
    I had a friend who ate nothing but ground
    beef, white rice, and boiled green beans.
    Every night. For years.
    Bor-ring!

    He was the executor of the Warhol estate, so
    there were probably other interesting things
    in his life.

    Campbell's soup cans? (G)

    A lifetime, if taken all at once!
    For sure!
    To paraphrase a pizza chain ad:
    "Seizure. Seizure."
    Basically so.

    Title: Aromatic Broth with Vegetable Slivers
    Categories: Thai, Soups
    Yield: 4 servings

    OTOH, this would be good on a cold day like today--except for the
    cilantro.

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    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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