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    From MICHAEL LOO@1:123/140 to RUTH HAFFLY on Wednesday, January 16, 2019 09:30:10
    I grew up with garlic salt as the only source of garlic in
    the > ML> house.
    That might have put you off for life.
    No, usually not enough was used to be noticed.
    "The food was crummy. And the portions were too
    small."
    I've heard that review before. (G)

    It's not always completely irrelevant and not
    always completely unjustified.

    Not worth the time/money for something that doesn't taste like
    garlic or > salt.
    It has its use. Can't think of any offhand,
    but someone has to eat it, sort of like the
    puffed rice.
    Basically, someone who has no sense of what kind of garlic should really
    be used in cooking. I did teach my mom a few things, mostly about
    Italian (my MIL's way) cooking over the years so she did get rid of the garlic salt in favor of garlic powder.

    Garlic salt has one advantage, though -
    it'll keep virtually forever.

    Interesting--did your mom cook more Chinese or American style after
    she > came to the States?
    She could cook quite literally anything, as can
    most people who are born to cook.
    Too bad my dad was such a plain eater and my mom a less than stellar cook/they never met your mom. The possibility of my mom adding some new
    and interesting cooking techniques/foods never had the chance to exist.

    Ah, well.

    ==
    As befits your condition.
    And my waistline.
    Mom couldn't have done it; she was happier buying something like
    that > than trying to make it.
    Easy, cheaper, better. But then she wasn't that
    much of a cook to begin with.
    No, she never would have considered it. The few times she did bake
    (white) bread, we scarfed it down fast. She never made it on a regular
    basis, thinking that she would probably be baking multiple loaves, every
    day, if we ate it at that rate all the time. I told her that after a
    short while, we'd be used to it as our "every day" bread and not go thru
    it quite so fast. She was never convinced--but did enjoy the home made
    whole wheat bread whenever she visited us.

    "Kept a-runnin' out."

    As long as he's willing to go along with what you
    do............ > ML> If not, one of us would fire the other.
    And since you should see a doctor on a regular enough basis, it's
    not > worth battling each other.
    That has nothing to do with it!
    OK, subject closed. I need the OK from both my cardiologist and primary
    care doctors that I'm healthy enough for the knee surgery--called the
    clinic for the latter one on Friday, have a Monday appointment.
    Conveniently, I'd scheduled a late January cardiology appointment when I
    had one in July so I'm covered now with both doctors.

    Yeah, my eye surgery requires similar clearance,
    tough when my health care is bicoastal. Eventually
    I'll just shop around for a doc who will just say yes.

    What you're comfortable with. Some people are
    better off with Sieg Heil physicians.
    I know, but it's not the way we are. From talking to other people
    in/around Wf, we've found out this one is a real pain in the...... makes
    me wonder how he stays in practice.

    Some people like certainty, even if it's an
    unpleasant one.

    The last couple days here it's been wind
    more than the temperatures. I can hardly
    wait for the balmy equatorial breezes.
    Our possibility of snow is pretty much out of the picture now, but it
    has been cold. Stve just came in (7:45 pm) and said it's 37 outside.

    The sun will come out - tomorrow.

    Big Brother or Nanny State government? Not good, but a lot of people like it.
    Some is necessary just to equalize the
    playing field with the big industial guys.
    But sometimes it gets to the point of ridiculously obsessive.

    You can't expect any organization to be able
    to fine-tune its behaviors, especially if it
    essentially changes every two years. The
    existence of a civil service helps sometimes,
    but sometimes maybe not so.

    of butter. No parsley, no wine.
    Wine goes well with, not necessarily in.
    Actually, a splash of sherry or port might
    do some good,
    If you have one or the other on hand.
    Which I generally do. I'd imagine you don't!
    We actually do have a bit of white on hand--bought for some cooking.

    It really does do some good, doesn't it?

    We'd done it often enough in Germany, do it from time to time (as we can) stateside as well. Meet some interesting people that way.
    That kind of informality seems to be a commoner
    thing in Europe.
    Quite, and as long as the other party isn't loud or obnoxious, it's fine
    with us if we share a table. Never know who you will meet but we've
    never been disappointed.

    Happens to me mostly in Germany, where we
    generally have a good old time between my
    laughable German and their laughable English.

    Title: Dr. Oetker's Rouladen
    Not the way I do it--I use bacon slices and dill pickles, no paprika,
    lemon juuice or sour cream. But, like anything else, there's my way and everybody else's way of doing something. (G)

    I don't think everybody else's was was Dr.
    Oetker's way, either.

    Chicken Chop Suey from the Presidential Yacht, the Mayflower
    categories: presidential, main, all-American, poultry
    servings: 8 to 10

    2 c water chestnuts
    2 c celery
    2 c bamboo shoots
    2 c Chinese beans
    2 c bok choy
    2 lb boneless chicken breast
    butter
    chicken stock
    salt, pepper,
    Sriracha to taste, not in original
    2 Tb soy sauce
    2 Tb Chinese rice wine
    1 Tb Cornstarch
    water

    Cut into very thin strips water chestnuts, celery,
    bamboo shoots, and Chinese beans. Leave bok choy
    intact if desired. Combine with white meat chicken
    cut into very thin strips. Fry in butter in skillet
    After 3 min, pour stock over. Cook for a few min
    and season to taste with salt, pepper, [and Sriracha].
    Add soy sauce, rice wine or sake, and cornstarch mixed
    with a little water. Cook Briskly for 5 more min.
    Serve with rice.

    Adapted from the original given to Grace Coolidge
    Poppy Cannon, The Presidential Cookbook
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to MICHAEL LOO on Sunday, January 20, 2019 22:47:24
    Hi Michael,

    I grew up with garlic salt as the only source of
    garlic in > ML> the > ML> house.
    That might have put you off for life.
    No, usually not enough was used to be noticed.
    "The food was crummy. And the portions were too
    small."
    I've heard that review before. (G)

    It's not always completely irrelevant and not
    always completely unjustified.

    Quite possibly so. I've probably encountered it from time to time, tho
    probably not as often as you have.

    Basically, someone who has no sense of what kind of garlic should
    really > be used in cooking. I did teach my mom a few things, mostly
    about
    Italian (my MIL's way) cooking over the years so she did get rid of
    the > garlic salt in favor of garlic powder.

    Garlic salt has one advantage, though -
    it'll keep virtually forever.

    It does lose the garlic "punch" after a while.

    Interesting--did your mom cook more Chinese or American style
    after > ML> she > came to the States?
    She could cook quite literally anything, as can
    most people who are born to cook.
    Too bad my dad was such a plain eater and my mom a less than stellar cook/they never met your mom. The possibility of my mom adding some
    new > and interesting cooking techniques/foods never had the chance to exist.

    Ah, well.

    I know.

    ==
    As befits your condition.
    And my waistline.
    Mom couldn't have done it; she was happier buying something
    like > ML> that > than trying to make it.
    Easy, cheaper, better. But then she wasn't that
    much of a cook to begin with.
    No, she never would have considered it. The few times she did bake (white) bread, we scarfed it down fast. She never made it on a
    regular > basis, thinking that she would probably be baking multiple loaves, every > day, if we ate it at that rate all the time. I told
    her that after a
    short while, we'd be used to it as our "every day" bread and not go
    thru > it quite so fast. She was never convinced--but did enjoy the
    home made > whole wheat bread whenever she visited us.

    "Kept a-runnin' out."

    I always had a good supply on hand.

    OK, subject closed. I need the OK from both my cardiologist and
    primary > care doctors that I'm healthy enough for the knee surgery--called the > clinic for the latter one on Friday, have a
    Monday appointment.
    Conveniently, I'd scheduled a late January cardiology appointment
    when I > had one in July so I'm covered now with both doctors.

    Yeah, my eye surgery requires similar clearance,
    tough when my health care is bicoastal. Eventually
    I'll just shop around for a doc who will just say yes.

    Turned out, my cardiologist retired--but the office, before it closed,
    sent in an OK to the orthopedic office. Got the OK from my primary care
    doctor last week.

    What you're comfortable with. Some people are
    better off with Sieg Heil physicians.
    I know, but it's not the way we are. From talking to other people in/around Wf, we've found out this one is a real pain in the......
    makes > me wonder how he stays in practice.

    Some people like certainty, even if it's an
    unpleasant one.

    Gluttons for punishment it seems.

    The last couple days here it's been wind
    more than the temperatures. I can hardly
    wait for the balmy equatorial breezes.
    Our possibility of snow is pretty much out of the picture now, but
    it > has been cold. Stve just came in (7:45 pm) and said it's 37
    outside.

    The sun will come out - tomorrow.

    And we'll have a high of about 35.

    Some is necessary just to equalize the
    playing field with the big industial guys.
    But sometimes it gets to the point of ridiculously obsessive.

    You can't expect any organization to be able
    to fine-tune its behaviors, especially if it
    essentially changes every two years. The
    existence of a civil service helps sometimes,
    but sometimes maybe not so.

    Not always what we want but have to live with.

    of butter. No parsley, no wine.
    Wine goes well with, not necessarily in.
    Actually, a splash of sherry or port might
    do some good,
    If you have one or the other on hand.
    Which I generally do. I'd imagine you don't!
    We actually do have a bit of white on hand--bought for some cooking.

    It really does do some good, doesn't it?

    Don't know, I'll maybe have to do the stuffed pork chops with chicken
    broth to see. They were good with the wine--stuffing had a granny smith
    apple and red onion (among other things) in it. Steve said the recipe is
    a keeper. Next thing is maybe a beef stew with a bit of red wine.

    Quite, and as long as the other party isn't loud or obnoxious, it's
    fine > with us if we share a table. Never know who you will meet but
    we've
    never been disappointed.

    Happens to me mostly in Germany, where we
    generally have a good old time between my
    laughable German and their laughable English.

    Steve speaks fluent German, mine will get me by. A lot of Germans speak
    decent English so we'd have no troouble communicating.

    Title: Dr. Oetker's Rouladen
    Not the way I do it--I use bacon slices and dill pickles, no
    paprika, > lemon juuice or sour cream. But, like anything else,
    there's my way and > everybody else's way of doing something. (G)

    I don't think everybody else's was was Dr.
    Oetker's way, either.

    He seems a bit of a strange bird anyway.

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    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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