• 570 lingua

    From MICHAEL LOO@1:123/140 to RUTH HAFFLY on Monday, April 09, 2018 12:59:18
    Possibly some exposure to Japanese language and
    culture stateside; less than likely having lived
    in Japan, as it was traditionally a completely
    closed society with no trade except for the
    Missionary kids?

    Missionaries I'm not so sure about, but there
    weren't many of them before the war, with the
    biggest presence from Russia.

    transient shipborne bartering; even in the last
    century most if not all of the American residents
    in Japan were of Japanese descent.
    IIRC, Perry opened up Japan to the outside trade world some time in the 1850s.

    That's what I was taught, too, but it's a vast
    oversimplification. What Perry did was defy the
    preexisting restriction of westerners to one
    city - Nagasaki, I seem to recall; he expanded
    the US privilege to two other cities, I don't
    recall which. It was Townsend Harris who opened
    the country, and though his terms were probably
    less harsh than Perry's would have been, his
    focus was more on short-term profit than cultural
    exchange, and as far as I am aware, there was
    no incentive for a trader to bring family to
    raise, especially in Japan.

    The oveseas mercantile trade was a seasoning part
    of a young man's career. Back in the 19th century,
    when the Japanese weren't in a position to fuss,
    there may have been a few who made a longer
    sojourn, but few would have had a family to bring
    along, and if they did, wouldn't have been
    foolish enough to subject it to the difficulties.

    In the 20th century, the country strengthened to
    the degree that it was calling the shots again in
    the trade relationship, and in the period I'm
    (vaguely) interested in the western presence was
    again very restricted.

    I knew a guy who became fluent in Arabic;
    he was a towering intellect with amazing
    stick-to-it-iveness in the face of difficulty.
    Had to be really stick to it and have an aptitutde for languages to
    learn Arabic in the DLI condensed course.
    Hopefully he didn't look like he was from the Middle East. While in HI,

    He looked pretty Semitic (being of mixed Jewish
    heritage).

    for our church's Christmas canata one year, we had to dress in costume appropriate to the area. A friend loaned Steve and me Kurdish outfits;
    after the program Steve commented that he'd best change before going
    back on post. (Somewhere around, I've got a picture that was taken of
    the 2 of us in costume.)

    Amusing - perhaps you should bring it to a
    picnic. Perhaps we can have a nonfood activity
    where we all bring pictures of ourselves in
    incongruous settings.

    Phyllo (Fillo) Dough
    categories: vegan, g/f, possibly KfP
    yield: 1 batch

    3 1/2 c all-purpose gluten-free flour, plus
    - more for sprinkling (I used Better Batter)
    3/4 c Expandex modified tapioca starch
    1 ts kosher salt
    1/4 c extra-virgin olive oil
    1 md lemon, juice only
    1 1/2 c lukewarm water

    In a large bowl whisk the flour, Expandex
    and salt together. Create a well in the
    center of the dry ingredients and add the
    olive oil, lemon juice and water, and mix
    to combine. The dough will come together
    and be thick. Press into a ball, cover
    with a moist tea towel, and allow to sit
    for about 20 min. The dough will stiffen
    a bit as it absorbs the water.

    Pull off golf ball-sized pieces (about 3 oz
    by weight) of the dough, and press into a
    disk with your fingers. Place the dough on a
    clean, flat surface and roll into a rough
    rectangle about 8" long. Sprinkle lightly
    with flour, and roll into a rectangle about
    12" x 10". Using a sharp knife, pizza wheel
    or pastry cutter, trim the rough edges of
    the rectangle into a neat rectangle that
    is about 10" x 8". Dust both sides of the
    dough generously with more flour, and set
    aside on a piece of parchment paper. Gather
    the scraps and return them to the remaining
    dough. Repeat with the rest of the dough,
    layering the pieces of rolled-out dough on
    top of one another, each dusted generously
    with flour to prevent sticking. The dough
    can be frozen for later use, then thawed at
    room temperature before using.

    Nicole Hunn
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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Michael Loo on Wednesday, April 11, 2018 01:25:02
    On 04-09-18 12:59, Michael Loo <=-
    spoke to Ruth Haffly about 570 lingua <=-

    for our church's Christmas canata one year, we had to dress in costume appropriate to the area. A friend loaned Steve and me Kurdish outfits;
    after the program Steve commented that he'd best change before going
    back on post. (Somewhere around, I've got a picture that was taken of
    the 2 of us in costume.)

    Amusing - perhaps you should bring it to a
    picnic. Perhaps we can have a nonfood activity
    where we all bring pictures of ourselves in
    incongruous settings.

    I don't think that I have any pictures of me wearing kilts. That was
    only during my freshman year in the Carnegie band.

    Has there been any real focused discussion on when and where the next
    picnic might be?


    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

    Title: PAELLA PARA ELLA
    Categories: Main dish, Chicken
    Yield: 12 Servings

    1/2 c Olive oil
    1 (2-lb) fryer, cut in 8 pcs.
    2 Thick pork chops; cubed
    2 Thick lamb chops; cubed
    1 md Onion; finely chopped
    1/2 md Green pepper; finely chopped
    2 Garlic cloves; minced
    1 Bay leaf
    1 lg Ripe tomato; peeled,
    -- quartered, seeded,
    -- and finely chopped
    1 pn Toasted saffron
    2 c Chicken broth; hot
    1 tb Salt
    1/2 ts Hot sauce
    18 md Raw shrimp
    -- cleaned and deveined
    18 Tender raw bay scallops
    12 Raw oysters
    1/2 lb Fillet of red snapper
    -- cubed
    12 sm Clams in shells
    1/2 lb Raw lobster meat; cubed
    12 Stone crab claws
    4 oz Canned squids (optional)
    1 1/2 c Chicken broth; hot
    2 c Long grain white rice
    1/2 c Dry sherry
    Additional dry sherry
    -- for sprinkling
    9 oz Frozen artichoke hearts
    12 Canned asparagus spears
    2 Whole pimientos
    1/2 c Cooked small peas
    Parsley bouquets for garnish

    Pour oil into a large skillet. Heat and brown chicken pieces; remove
    to casserole, which should measure 14 inches in diameter. Brown
    cubed pork and lamb chops in skillet and remove to casserole. To the
    drippings, add the onion and the green pepper. Saute until onion is
    transparent. Add the garlic, bay leaf, and finely chopped tomato.
    Stir to mix and cook 5 minutes. Combine the toasted saffron, 2 cups
    of hot broth, salt, and hot sauce. Stir into skillet; bring to a
    boil, then pour over meat and chicken in casserole. Again bring to a
    boil, lower heat, cover, and cook until the meat is tender (30
    minutes). Now, add shrimp, scallops, oysters, cubed red snapper,
    scrubbed clams, lobster meat, stone crab claws, and squids (remove
    part of the ink of the squids and chop squids coarsely). Cook
    approximately 15 minutes at moderate heat, or until the shellfish
    turn pink. Remove stone crab claws for later use. Half the shell of
    the clams may be removed if desired. There should be enough liquid
    in casserole to measure about 3-1/2 cups; add more broth if
    necessary. Stir in the 2 cups of rice and mix well to distribute
    evenly in csserole. When it starts to boil, add the 1/2 cup wine.
    Cover the casserole and place in preheated 325 degree F oven for 20
    minutes.

    Meanwhile cook artichokes according to direction on package. Drain
    and use only 6 to 8 perfect ones. Five minutes before removing
    casserole from oven, uncover and place artichokes around edge of
    casserole. Place the asparagus spears in between artichokes cartwheel
    fashion. Place the stone crab claws in decorative arrangement around
    the casserole. Cut 1 pimiento in strips and place over the rice. Fill
    the remaining pimiento with peas and place in center of casserole,
    pressing down to avoid toppling over. Add parsley bouquets here and
    there for color. Sprinkle all with dry sherry and return to oven
    uncovered for 5 minutes longer.

    Remove from oven and let stand for at least 15 minutes before serving.

    NOTE: In many parts of Spain, a lemon wedge to squeeze over the
    paella is served with each portion.

    * Source: Clarita's Cocina - by Clarita Garcia * Typed for you by
    Karen Mintzias

    MMMMM



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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to MICHAEL LOO on Tuesday, April 10, 2018 15:21:10
    Hi Michael,

    Possibly some exposure to Japanese language and
    culture stateside; less than likely having lived
    in Japan, as it was traditionally a completely
    closed society with no trade except for the
    Missionary kids?

    Missionaries I'm not so sure about, but there
    weren't many of them before the war, with the
    biggest presence from Russia.

    Possibly some, I know one Southern Baptist one died in Tokyo on
    Christmas day in the 18 ( think) 80s. She'd been a missionary to China
    and was on her way home but died of starvation.

    transient shipborne bartering; even in the last
    century most if not all of the American residents
    in Japan were of Japanese descent.
    IIRC, Perry opened up Japan to the outside trade world some time in
    the > 1850s.

    That's what I was taught, too, but it's a vast
    oversimplification. What Perry did was defy the
    preexisting restriction of westerners to one
    city - Nagasaki, I seem to recall; he expanded
    the US privilege to two other cities, I don't
    recall which. It was Townsend Harris who opened
    the country, and though his terms were probably
    less harsh than Perry's would have been, his
    focus was more on short-term profit than cultural
    exchange, and as far as I am aware, there was
    no incentive for a trader to bring family to
    raise, especially in Japan.

    Unless the family was particularly adventuresome.

    The oveseas mercantile trade was a seasoning part
    of a young man's career. Back in the 19th century,
    when the Japanese weren't in a position to fuss,
    there may have been a few who made a longer
    sojourn, but few would have had a family to bring
    along, and if they did, wouldn't have been
    foolish enough to subject it to the difficulties.

    Some people like that kind of challenge.

    In the 20th century, the country strengthened to
    the degree that it was calling the shots again in
    the trade relationship, and in the period I'm
    (vaguely) interested in the western presence was
    again very restricted.

    Overall interesting.


    I knew a guy who became fluent in Arabic;
    he was a towering intellect with amazing
    stick-to-it-iveness in the face of difficulty.
    Had to be really stick to it and have an aptitutde for languages to learn Arabic in the DLI condensed course.
    Hopefully he didn't look like he was from the Middle East. While in
    HI,

    He looked pretty Semitic (being of mixed Jewish
    heritage).

    I imagine there were a few (mentally) raised eyebrows then among his
    fellow passengers.

    for our church's Christmas canata one year, we had to dress in
    costume > appropriate to the area. A friend loaned Steve and me
    Kurdish outfits; > after the program Steve commented that he'd best
    change before going
    back on post. (Somewhere around, I've got a picture that was taken
    of > the 2 of us in costume.)

    Amusing - perhaps you should bring it to a
    picnic. Perhaps we can have a nonfood activity
    where we all bring pictures of ourselves in
    incongruous settings.

    Right now I've no idea where it is, except in one of many boxes.


    Phyllo (Fillo) Dough
    categories: vegan, g/f, possibly KfP
    yield: 1 batch

    3 1/2 c all-purpose gluten-free flour, plus
    - more for sprinkling (I used Better Batter)
    3/4 c Expandex modified tapioca starch
    1 ts kosher salt
    1/4 c extra-virgin olive oil
    1 md lemon, juice only
    1 1/2 c lukewarm water

    Looks like it would be KFP; I don't see any leavening in it.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


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