• 806 travel was crusty again

    From MICHAEL LOO@1:123/140 to RUTH HAFFLY on Saturday, January 12, 2019 09:32:34
    And most of the Indians spoke very good English--or very broken
    English.
    Sort of like real Indians ... or Bostonians!
    At the time frame, tho, very few Indians would have known too much
    English.

    Hard to say what was known by whom. Many
    tribes and communities had someone who had
    traveled and was gifted with languages and
    might have served as an interpreter with other
    tribes including the white folks. I don't know
    of any contemporary accounts of what their
    command of other languages actually was.

    The characters in the TV shows have other
    purposes than verisimilitude. Those who speak
    Ivy League English vs. inchoate grunts and
    gibbers are means of advancing the plot rather
    than depictions of actual historical truth.

    By the way, was there really a series called
    Trackdown on CBS in the '50s? Seems too good
    to be true.

    Undoubtedly untintional, but sort of reflective
    of real class differences. I wonder if all the
    episodes were directed by the same person, and
    Probably a good number of them for the series shows.

    Some of them, but if you look at the
    records, a lot of episodes had directors
    hired just for that one or a limited run.

    if not, why wasn't there a handbook of Indians.
    There were, but not real Indians for the most part.

    How?

    I cringe at almost all the TV or film I see
    from the olden days (not much, of course).
    But contemporaries folded up their disbelief
    easily and believed the stuff it seeems.
    Simpler times when those shows were made.

    And they weren't concerned with what viewers
    50 or 60 years later would be concerned with.

    Natural or otherwise?
    How could I tell? So I had to go on the
    Internet, which I'm doing more frequently
    nowadays, being more hard of remembering and
    also putting more amusingly appropriate
    recipes on my posts. Wikitruth and IMDb do
    not list her as a natural redhead, but the
    Deseret News had an article that claimed
    that she was. Unfortunately, I first clicked
    So be it. (G)

    So apparently it was.

    on what I thought was the Wikipedia article
    and was highjacked to a site that, well, let's
    just say that I had to run a virus scan.
    OOPS! Hope your system is well de-bugged now.

    The headline on the Google listing was List of
    Natural Redheads - Wikipedia, so I could have
    been forgiven for clicking on it.

    A name I'm not familiar with.
    Mayor of SF.
    OK, I'm not as attuned to the West Coast as I once was.

    I wouldn't have known about this guy if he
    didn't look really like me. There is also a chef
    in Napa who looks like me, The difference is that
    he talks in stereotypical buck-toothed Jap talk,
    and I don't. Not to mention, Hiro Sone is a
    genius, or as close to as makes no difference.

    As with so much of their work, it's absurdist
    comedy bordering (but I think not quite in the
    territory; some would disagree) on the deranged.
    IOW, not worth the bother to look it up.
    If you're not into that kind of thing.
    Not really.

    You might vary your routine now and then.
    Even I go to church once in a while. Or the
    opera, which is worse.

    Snakes, according to current rules, should.
    Mice, no, and as we've noted, a snake wouldn't
    need to eat as frequently as you or I.
    Especially if it's fed not long before boarding. Did hear that United is going to crack down on "support" animals, but not as much as I'd hoped
    they would.

    Considering that the recommended feeding
    regimen is once every week or two, and you
    can neglect them for SIX MONTHS before they
    get endangered, it would seem that in some
    ways snakes might be the ideal emotional
    support animal for a long journey. Oh, other
    than they likely won't provide much support.

    might be a generational thing--some generations the parents support picky eaters, others don't. We didn't with our girls, and they now
    enjoy > a wide variety of foods--well beyond the meat and potatoes
    sort of meals > I was brought up with.
    Picky eating to me is a world of lost
    opportunity.
    Yes, you do miss a lot of chances to expand your culinary horizons that
    way. (G)

    I had a friend who ate nothing but ground
    beef, white rice, and boiled green beans.
    Every night. For years.

    Title: Egg Drop Soup #3
    9 Chicken Bouillon Cubes
    This recipe would be much benefited if you use real broth.
    Agreed, very much so. Enough salt in those bullion cubes to last you
    a > week or more.
    A lifetime, if taken all at once!
    For sure!

    To paraphrase a pizza chain ad:
    "Seizure. Seizure."

    Little Caesar's Crazy Bread Copycat Recipe
    categories: Italianate, starch, tstealike
    Yield: 16

    1 pizza crust dough (10 to 14 oz)
    2 Tb butter, melted
    1/2 ts garlic salt
    1/8 c finely grated Parmesan
    h - Dipping Sauce (Optional)
    15 oz canned tomato puree
    1/2 ts salt
    1/4 ts pepper
    1/4 ts garlic powder
    1/4 ts dried basil
    1/4 ts dried marjoram
    1/4 ts dried oregano
    1/4 ts dried thyme

    Preheat oven to 450F.

    Unroll dough on a clean surface. Cut dough in half
    lengthwise, and then cut 8 strips vertically with
    a pizza cutter (making 16 small bread sticks).
    Place each strip onto a lightly greased baking sheet.
    Bake 6 to 8 min or until golden brown.

    While bread sticks are baking, melt the butter and
    stir in garlic salt. Remove bread sticks from the
    oven and brush on garlic butter mixture. Sprinkle
    with cheese. Serve with marinara sauce for dipping,
    if desired.

    For the sauce, combine all ingredients in saucepan
    over medium heat. When it begin to bubble, reduce
    heat and simmer for 30 min, stirring often. Store
    in airtight container in refrigerator for up to
    4 weeks or freeze. Makes 1 1/2 c.

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to MICHAEL LOO on Sunday, January 13, 2019 21:20:13
    Hi Michael,

    And most of the Indians spoke very good English--or very
    broken > ML> English.
    Sort of like real Indians ... or Bostonians!
    At the time frame, tho, very few Indians would have known too much English.

    Hard to say what was known by whom. Many
    tribes and communities had someone who had
    traveled and was gifted with languages and
    might have served as an interpreter with other
    tribes including the white folks. I don't know

    As I understand, there was a relatively common sign language used by the various tribes. Some tribes may have had a member who knew other
    languages but if I recall what I read years ago correctly, this sign
    language was the primary form of inter-tribal communication.

    of any contemporary accounts of what their
    command of other languages actually was.

    We could research it out, but is it worth the time/effort?

    The characters in the TV shows have other
    purposes than verisimilitude. Those who speak
    Ivy League English vs. inchoate grunts and
    gibbers are means of advancing the plot rather
    than depictions of actual historical truth.

    Exactly!

    By the way, was there really a series called
    Trackdown on CBS in the '50s? Seems too good
    to be true.

    I've no idea--we didn't get tv until the 60s.


    Undoubtedly untintional, but sort of reflective
    of real class differences. I wonder if all the
    episodes were directed by the same person, and
    Probably a good number of them for the series shows.

    Some of them, but if you look at the
    records, a lot of episodes had directors
    hired just for that one or a limited run.

    Probably didn't pay enough to make a decent living on.

    if not, why wasn't there a handbook of Indians.
    There were, but not real Indians for the most part.

    How?

    White men ruled--and played almost every part.

    I cringe at almost all the TV or film I see
    from the olden days (not much, of course).
    But contemporaries folded up their disbelief
    easily and believed the stuff it seeems.
    Simpler times when those shows were made.

    And they weren't concerned with what viewers
    50 or 60 years later would be concerned with.

    They probably didn't think copies of the shows would still be around 50
    or 60 years later.

    recipes on my posts. Wikitruth and IMDb do
    not list her as a natural redhead, but the
    Deseret News had an article that claimed
    that she was. Unfortunately, I first clicked
    So be it. (G)

    So apparently it was.

    on what I thought was the Wikipedia article
    and was highjacked to a site that, well, let's
    just say that I had to run a virus scan.
    OOPS! Hope your system is well de-bugged now.

    The headline on the Google listing was List of
    Natural Redheads - Wikipedia, so I could have
    been forgiven for clicking on it.

    Understandable.


    A name I'm not familiar with.
    Mayor of SF.
    OK, I'm not as attuned to the West Coast as I once was.

    I wouldn't have known about this guy if he
    didn't look really like me. There is also a chef
    in Napa who looks like me, The difference is that
    he talks in stereotypical buck-toothed Jap talk,
    and I don't. Not to mention, Hiro Sone is a
    genius, or as close to as makes no difference.

    And you make no claims to be so?

    As with so much of their work, it's absurdist
    comedy bordering (but I think not quite in the
    territory; some would disagree) on the deranged.
    IOW, not worth the bother to look it up.
    If you're not into that kind of thing.
    Not really.

    You might vary your routine now and then.

    Some things are just not our "cuppa tea", especially if it's downgrading people.

    Even I go to church once in a while. Or the
    opera, which is worse.

    Steve's not an opera fan either. I think I would enjoy some, more for
    the story/acting than the music.

    Snakes, according to current rules, should.
    Mice, no, and as we've noted, a snake wouldn't
    need to eat as frequently as you or I.
    Especially if it's fed not long before boarding. Did hear that
    United is > going to crack down on "support" animals, but not as much
    as I'd hoped > they would.

    Considering that the recommended feeding
    regimen is once every week or two, and you
    can neglect them for SIX MONTHS before they
    get endangered, it would seem that in some
    ways snakes might be the ideal emotional
    support animal for a long journey. Oh, other
    than they likely won't provide much support.

    No, and other passengers might need support animals after seeing a
    snake. (G)

    and they now > ML> enjoy > a wide variety of foods--well beyond the
    meat and potatoes > ML> sort of meals > I was brought up with.
    Picky eating to me is a world of lost
    opportunity.
    Yes, you do miss a lot of chances to expand your culinary horizons
    that > way. (G)

    I had a friend who ate nothing but ground
    beef, white rice, and boiled green beans.
    Every night. For years.

    Bor-ring!

    Title: Egg Drop Soup #3
    9 Chicken Bouillon Cubes
    This recipe would be much benefited if you use real
    broth. > ML> > Agreed, very much so. Enough salt in those bullion
    cubes to last you > ML> a > week or more.
    A lifetime, if taken all at once!
    For sure!

    To paraphrase a pizza chain ad:
    "Seizure. Seizure."

    Basically so.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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