• 773 Fried Chicken and Iberian pork

    From MICHAEL LOO@1:123/140 to DALE SHIPP on Sunday, January 06, 2019 10:39:40
    It was juicier and tenderer than Popeye's (I
    suspect a presteaming or parcooking of some kind),
    and also it had never been chilled, let alone
    frozen. Each order is made to order. Heat, it was
    no spicier than Popeye's mild.
    Perhaps the next time we are in NO, we might like to try it. What was
    the name again and how far from the French Quarter?

    Willie Mae's Scotch House. It started out as a
    bar but no longer serves alcohol. It's about a
    mile and half sort of north of the Quarter, a
    block from the Orleans at Tonti bus stop and two
    blocks or so from the Miro at Orleans stop where
    Dooky Chase's is.

    Which tour company was that?
    Country Traveler's Discovery. We have been going with them for years,
    but have pretty much been on all of their tours to places we would want
    to go in the USA.

    I'm exploring options for less strenuous
    travel for Lilli.

    Lovely. There's a grocery down by Rancho Bernardo where
    we sometimes go to the doctor's; it has this for less
    than I can make it myself. Unfortunately, I left some
    in the fridge, and as soon as I'd left (just for a
    couple weeks), Lilli tossed it.
    She does have a habit of doing that on you, doesn't she? I seem to
    recall that Williamsport Annie was even worse -- no left overs at all.
    Or am I thinking of someone else.

    Bonnie is the worst at that, tossing things
    that are perfectly serviceable or sometimes
    even being saved by me for another use;
    Rosemary is just the opposite, keeping things
    for literal decades - there are condiments and
    spices, which admittedly don't go bad quickly,
    that predate my friendship with her late husband,
    so in the neighborhood of a quarter century.
    Lilli is a combination, with some things thrown
    away too soon, but also I've found food in the
    fridge that has grown alien life forms, which
    she has simply forgotten about.

    Title: Bhaja

    I wasn't sure about these things - I forget which
    writer it was, perhaps MFK Fisher, who gave me the
    false impression that the word meant "treasure."
    To be completely confused, try looking up bhaji
    vs. bhajji on Wikipedia.

    Adapted from Madhur Jaffrey, "A Taste of India"

    Formerly better known as an actress, she's
    become almost synonymous with Indian cooking
    in the English-speaking world. Bonnie knew her
    from Ismail Merchant's table before she was well
    known as a cook; apparently they both sat there
    like church mice while Merchant did the cooking
    and the talking. They both learned - Madhur
    became a cook, Bonnie became an Eat.

    Title: Braised Iberian Pork Cheek w/Port Wine & Honey
    1 kg (2.2 lb) Iberian pork cheeks
    I wonder if anyone here has ever had Iberian pork? I have seen it

    Need you ask.

    First, it must be noted that Iberian pork is
    about as meaningful as Japanese beef (wa-gyu).
    The terms customarily are used for prestige
    products but are not (cannot be?) regulated,
    which invites unscrupulous marketers to do
    nefarious things.

    touted on some of the cooking shows we watch and wonder what the big
    deal is. Actually, I would even ask if anyone here has ever even seen

    It's good, at least the flavor; it tends not
    to be as fat as I'd like, even though it's
    better at that than Smithfield or Armour or Swift.
    I prefer Kurobuta (people claim that Berkshire
    is synonymous, but that's a lie - it's like saying
    that all white-haired Germanics are Einstein)
    which is much fatter, tenderer, and tastier,
    because of the Japanese feed regimen - the entire
    philosophy of livestock management is opposite from
    the Iberian. The one relies on fat and happy, the
    other on free and happy.

    it for sale in a store or at a restaurant in the US.

    Look no farther than DC, where Jose Andres
    had or has the exclusive distribution rights
    to Fermin Iberico pork. The closest place to
    you I am sure has it is Jaleo.

    Title: Barbecued Pork Buns
    Categories: Appetizer, Chinese
    Yield: 1 servings

    3 tb Oil
    1 md Onion, diced

    Should be much less onion if any, also
    minced fine almost to a paste if used.

    1 lb Barbecued pork diced

    Of course this is char siu.

    4 tb Oyster sauce

    A bit much, but many like it this way.

    2 tb Vermouth or golden sherry
    2 tb Cornstarch mixed in 3 tbs
    Water

    Use Chinese rice wine if available.

    1 tb Sesame seed oil
    3 tb Sugar

    Both a bit much, because the pork is
    already sweet and sesame tends to dominate.

    pn Pepper
    1/2 c Stock
    Dough:
    1 Packaged yeast cake
    1/2 c Warm water
    6 c Flour
    1 1/2 c Milk
    pn Salt
    3 tb Lard or shortening
    4 1/2 tb Sugar

    About right - it is a sweet dough.

    Dick Francis

    That Dick Francis? Or another one. Here's a
    recipe that brings to mind another mystery
    writer, Dorothy Sayers.

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    Title: Steak and Guinness Pie (Irish)
    Categories: Irish, Beef, Pies
    Yield: 4 servings

    1 kg Round steak 300 ml Guinness
    1 tb Flour 8 Slices bacon
    1 ts Brown sugar 3 oz Lard
    1 tb Raisins (optional) Chopped parsley
    5 x Onions Recipe of short pastry*

    *For double-crust pie in deep pie dish. -- Cut the steak into bite sized
    cubes, roll in seasoned flour, and brown in the lard with the bacon,
    chopped small.

    Place the meat in a casserole, peel and chop the onions, and fry until
    golden before adding them to the meat. Add the raisins (if wanted) and
    brown sugar, pour in the Guinness, cover tightly and simmer over a low
    heat
    or in a very moderate oven (325-350F) for 2 1/2 hours. Stir occasionally,
    and add a little more Guinness or water if the rich brown gravy gets too
    thick. Meanwhile, line a deep pie dish with half the pie crust: bake it
    blind: then add the Guinness/beef mixture from the casserole, cover with
    the top layer of pie crust, and bake until finished, probably about 10
    more
    minutes. Variation: for the brown sugar, substitute 3 T honey.
    Source unknown

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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Michael Loo on Monday, January 07, 2019 02:33:10
    On 01-06-19 09:39, Michael Loo <=-
    spoke to Dale Shipp about 773 Fried Chicken and Ibe <=-


    Which tour company was that?

    Country Traveler's Discovery. We have been going with them for years,
    but have pretty much been on all of their tours to places we would want
    to go in the USA.

    I'm exploring options for less strenuous
    travel for Lilli.

    You might take a look at a company called Road Scholar. They have a
    number of tours to a large variety of places, both domestic and
    international. The basic theme is that they bring in local experts to
    give talks, and then take you out to see what they are talking about.
    We went on two back to back tours with them. One in New Orleans and the
    next one in Lafayette. Both of those had us staying in the same hotel
    for the entire tour, and then using a bus and/or walking to get to the
    other places. The food scene was a cut above our normal, but probably a
    cut below yours (except for lunch at Commander's Palace). Most
    important for your purpose is that the publish a activity level for each
    tour -- from sedate to olympic (not what they call it, but you get the
    idea). I'm most inclined to look next at a variety of single city tours
    of theirs versus multiple location venues.


    Lovely. There's a grocery down by Rancho Bernardo where
    we sometimes go to the doctor's; it has this for less
    than I can make it myself. Unfortunately, I left some
    in the fridge, and as soon as I'd left (just for a
    couple weeks), Lilli tossed it.
    She does have a habit of doing that on you, doesn't she? I seem to
    recall that Williamsport Annie was even worse -- no left overs at all.
    Or am I thinking of someone else.

    Bonnie is the worst at that, tossing things
    that are perfectly serviceable or sometimes
    even being saved by me for another use;
    Rosemary is just the opposite, keeping things
    for literal decades - there are condiments and
    spices, which admittedly don't go bad quickly,
    that predate my friendship with her late husband,
    so in the neighborhood of a quarter century.
    Lilli is a combination, with some things thrown
    away too soon, but also I've found food in the
    fridge that has grown alien life forms, which
    she has simply forgotten about.

    Adapted from Madhur Jaffrey, "A Taste of India"

    Formerly better known as an actress, she's

    And then there is the actress Hedy Lamarr who had a patent in a
    technology closely related to where I used to work.

    I wonder if anyone here has ever had Iberian pork? I have seen it

    Need you ask.

    touted on some of the cooking shows we watch and wonder what the big
    deal is. Actually, I would even ask if anyone here has ever even seen

    How much did you have, and what did you have to pay for it?

    It's good, at least the flavor; it tends not
    to be as fat as I'd like, even though it's
    better at that than Smithfield or Armour or Swift.

    I had the Smithfield dry cured ham once -- and never again.


    This recipe does not specify which sort of mushrooms to use. We have
    graduated from using the typical white button mushrooms to using the
    baby portabella mushrooms. Essentially the same price and they have
    more flavor. Maybe someday we will go up another notch:-}}

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    Title: EMPRESS MUSHROOMS
    Categories: Vegetables, Appetizers, _ethnic
    Yield: 4 Servings

    16 md Mushrooms
    1 sm Onion, chopped
    1 lg Garlic, clove, chopped
    1/2 c Oil, olive
    6 oz Prosciutto, OR
    1 lg Ham, slice
    2 ts Parsley
    2 ts Marjoram
    Salt
    Pepper
    1 c Wine, white
    Bread crumbs
    Cheese, Parmigiano, grated

    Clean the mushrooms thoroughly and remove and chop up their
    stems.

    Saute onions and garlic in 1/4 cup of olive oil until
    transparent. Add chopped mushrooms stems, chopped prosciutto,
    parsley, marjoram, salt and pepper. Saute for about 2 minutes, then
    add wine.

    Add bread crumbs until mixture is consistency of mush. Coat
    mushroom tops with remaining olive oil. Stuff each mushroom with a
    tablespoon of the mixture, then sprinkle with Parmigiano cheese and
    bake at 375 F for 3 - 7 minutes, depending on the size of the
    mushrooms.

    Source: Great Chefs of San Francisco, Avon Books, 1984
    Chef: Adriana Giramonti, Giramonti Restaurant, San Francisco,
    CA

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