• Re: bento box was: 688 ta

    From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to RUTH HAFFLY on Wednesday, December 26, 2018 23:01:00
    Quoting Ruth Haffly to Nancy Backus on 12-24-18 20:30 <=-

    Good way for a restaurant to use up odds and ends of stuff
    too--"we made too many sushi, fried sweet potato, tempura'ed
    veggies, etc so will toss them into a fancy divided container
    and call it a bento box". (G) The ones we get usually have
    similar to the above plus a scoop of rice and a good serving
    of whatever meat you've ordered with it.
    That's a bit pejorative... Every place I've ever had a bento
    box or the equivalent, all the foods in the box were freshly
    made....

    It is most likely made fresh; I don't think we've had it any other way
    but fresh cooked. Just thinking that some places might think about
    doing that as a way to save a few pennies.

    It would most likely backfire on them... especially as everything in the
    box would normally need to be made up fresh and to order, except for
    something like the dumplings that might only be finished being cooked...

    Suspect, tho, that the
    Department of Health wouldn't look too kindly on a practice like that.

    Indeed, if it were actually leftover bits, the Dept of Health wouldn't
    be too keen on it... too much chance for things to have gone a bit off
    before being served that way....

    But perhaps you've been in places where the other was indeed the
    case...

    Not that we know about, thankfully.

    Ok, that's good... :)

    not a place I'd return to, if that were so... :)

    We wouldn't either.

    If the food served in a bento box was off, it reflects poorly on the
    kitchen and the ownership....

    I've always seen the bento box as a good way to be able to try
    out various different foods all at the same time, almost as
    easily as at a buffet where it's all there to be chosen from....

    Usually the Korean place we go to, we have no idea what will be in the "box" other than the meat we've ordered and a scoop of rice.

    At Seoul House, there's a picture of the different boxes on the menu... sometimes the specifics are a little different... I don't usually get
    that because the salad that's part of it doesn't have Fu's dressing, so
    I don't expect it to sit well... ;) And at Fu's, I have some leeway as
    to what goes in the different sections of the box... ;)

    With a buffet, we know what's offered, can pick and choose what
    we want. It is fun trying new things, which we very often do at
    a buffet, especially an Asian one.

    Most of our regular buffet stops don't often have anything we've not
    seen before... but I will sometimes get things that I don't always get
    there... :)

    ttyl neb

    ... Did I say all that up there? I'll admit it *does* sound like me....

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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Nancy Backus on Friday, December 28, 2018 01:21:00
    On 12-26-18 22:01, Nancy Backus <=-
    spoke to Ruth Haffly about Re: bento box was: 688 ta <=-

    Indeed, if it were actually leftover bits, the Dept of Health wouldn't
    be too keen on it... too much chance for things to have gone a bit off before being served that way....

    In some (many?) places the dept of health has objections to restaurants
    even putting out leftover food to feed the homeless. I'm not talking
    about food from plates served to customers, but food cooked in the
    kitchen and never put out to customers.

    Isn't one of your pet peeves for a recipe calling for stalks of celery
    when they should say ribs? Or is that Michael?

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    Categories: Beans, Soup, Lentil, Meat
    Yield: 6 servings

    3/4 lb Smoked sausage
    1/3 c Alad oil
    1/3 c Flour
    4 Stalks celery; chopped fine
    3 cl Garlic; minced
    2 md Onions; diced
    2 lg Carrots; chopped fine
    2 qt Chicken broth
    1 3/4 c Lentils
    1 tb Worcestershire
    1/4 ts Pepper
    1/4 ts Cayenne

    In a 5 to 7 quart pan, over medium heat, cook sausage, stirring, until
    brow. Spoon from pan; reserve. Add oi to drippings in pan to make
    1/3 cup fat. Add flour; stir until mixture is red brown, abouth 10
    minutes.

    Add celery, garlic, onion and crrots; cook, stirring until vegetables
    begint o soften, about 3 minutes. Add reserved sauseage, chicken
    broth lentils, worcestershire, pepper and cayenne. Bring to boiling
    over high ehat; redue to simmer, cover and cook until lentils ar soft
    when pressed, about 40 minutes.

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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Dale Shipp on Friday, December 28, 2018 06:45:00
    Dale Shipp wrote to Nancy Backus <=-

    Isn't one of your pet peeves for a recipe calling for stalks of celery when they should say ribs? Or is that Michael?

    That would be me and/or Jim Weller. Many places which publish recipes
    use "stalk" where "rib" should be. A stalk of celery will weigh two or
    more pounds. When entering recipes into Meal Muncher I parse through
    the ingredients list as I go. It has become nearly automatic for me to
    change the call-out to the proper measure.

    Even cooking/food magazines like Bon Ap/Gourmet or BH&G as well as
    Taste of Home/Midwest Living and TVFN et al are guilty of the stalk/rib
    faux pas.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

    Title: Fresno Smoked Sausage and Lentil Gumbo
    Categories: Beans, Soup, Lentil, Meat
    Yield: 6 servings

    3/4 lb Smoked sausage
    1/3 c Alad oil
    1/3 c Flour
    4 Stalks celery; chopped fine

    Which would be 8 to 10 pounds (4 - 5 kg) of green crunchiness. If you
    edit your copy to "4 ribs celery" you might want to change the line
    "1/3 c Alad oil" to "1/3 c Salad oil". Bv)=

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Celery Victor
    Categories: Vegetables, Poultry, Herbs, Seafood
    Yield: 7 servings

    MMMMM---------------------------CELERY--------------------------------
    2 md Celery stalks (4 1/2 lb)
    1 qt Chicken broth
    1/4 md Yellow onion, thinly sliced
    4 To 5 fresh Italian parsley
    - sprigs
    3 Fresh tarragon sprigs
    1 1/2 ts Kosher salt
    Fresh ground black pepper

    MMMMM--------------------------DRESSING-------------------------------
    2 Anchovy fillets
    1/4 c White wine vinegar
    Salt & fresh ground pepper
    1/4 c Vegetable or grapeseed oil
    1/4 c Extra-virgin olive oil
    3 tb Coarse chopped fresh
    - tarragon leaves

    Today celery is thought of as a supporting-role
    vegetable, but in the early 1900s, Chef Victor Hirtzler
    of the St. Francis Hotel in San Francisco developed this
    dish, which gave it the spotlight.

    Cleaned, trimmed celery is briefly braised and cooled in
    chicken broth, leaving it cooked through but still
    crisp, with a softened flavour. It's served with a
    thickly emulsified tarragon vinaigrette and a garnish of
    celery leaves. It is an elegant, and unexpected, first
    course.

    Serves 6 to 8

    This dish was featured as part of our Epic Christmas
    Feast: Lost Recipes from the Grand Hotels.

    by Amy Wisniewski

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.chowhound.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to NANCY BACKUS on Thursday, December 27, 2018 18:45:24
    Hi Nancy,

    box or the equivalent, all the foods in the box were freshly
    made....

    It is most likely made fresh; I don't think we've had it any other way
    but fresh cooked. Just thinking that some places might think about
    doing that as a way to save a few pennies.

    It would most likely backfire on them... especially as everything in
    the box would normally need to be made up fresh and to order, except
    for
    something like the dumplings that might only be finished being
    cooked...

    The tempura stuff is always fresh cooked too.


    Suspect, tho, that the
    Department of Health wouldn't look too kindly on a practice like that.

    Indeed, if it were actually leftover bits, the Dept of Health wouldn't
    be too keen on it... too much chance for things to have gone a bit off before being served that way....

    Definately not something the restaurant would not want a reputation for.

    But perhaps you've been in places where the other was indeed the
    case...

    Not that we know about, thankfully.

    Ok, that's good... :)

    not a place I'd return to, if that were so... :)

    We wouldn't either.

    If the food served in a bento box was off, it reflects poorly on the kitchen and the ownership....

    Yes, but a good one shows that the cooks are right on top of things.


    I've always seen the bento box as a good way to be able to try
    out various different foods all at the same time, almost as
    easily as at a buffet where it's all there to be chosen from....

    Usually the Korean place we go to, we have no idea what will be in the "box" other than the meat we've ordered and a scoop of rice.

    At Seoul House, there's a picture of the different boxes on the
    menu... sometimes the specifics are a little different... I don't
    usually get
    that because the salad that's part of it doesn't have Fu's dressing,

    Very understandable.

    so I don't expect it to sit well... ;) And at Fu's, I have some
    leeway as to what goes in the different sections of the box... ;)

    I think you have a bit of an "in" over there. (G)

    With a buffet, we know what's offered, can pick and choose what
    we want. It is fun trying new things, which we very often do at
    a buffet, especially an Asian one.

    Most of our regular buffet stops don't often have anything we've not
    seen before... but I will sometimes get things that I don't always get there... :)

    You visit Asian buffets more often than we do. There's one in Savannah
    we went to from time to time but we've not come across any big ones in
    NC. Every so often in our travels we'll find one and try it out.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to DALE SHIPP on Saturday, December 29, 2018 17:21:00
    Quoting Dale Shipp to Nancy Backus on 12-28-18 00:21 <=-

    Indeed, if it were actually leftover bits, the Dept of Health wouldn't
    be too keen on it... too much chance for things to have gone a bit off
    before being served that way....

    In some (many?) places the dept of health has objections to
    restaurants even putting out leftover food to feed the homeless. I'm
    not talking about food from plates served to customers, but food cooked
    in the kitchen and never put out to customers.

    I'd say that that's going a bit too far... Agreed that food from
    customers' plates would not be a good idea, but freshly cooked and not previously served should be fine to share.... Those that need would be
    fed, and the food not wasted....

    Isn't one of your pet peeves for a recipe calling for stalks of celery when they should say ribs? Or is that Michael?

    I wouldn't call it a pet peeve, exactly, although I am also careful to differentiate between the two.... Probably Michael, and I'm thinking
    Dave Drum as well.... :) It's a very common confusion, though...

    The first time I fixed celery for my gout, I did indeed use an entire
    stalk for the dinner.... since then it's usually 4 ribs or so, depending
    on what I'm fixing and how large the ribs are... :)

    ttyl neb

    ... Great! Now if we can just keep it from exploding...

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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to RUTH HAFFLY on Monday, December 31, 2018 23:55:00
    Quoting Ruth Haffly to Nancy Backus on 12-27-18 17:45 <=-

    box or the equivalent, all the foods in the box were freshly
    made....
    It is most likely made fresh; I don't think we've had it any
    other way but fresh cooked. Just thinking that some places might
    think about doing that as a way to save a few pennies.
    It would most likely backfire on them... especially as everything
    in the box would normally need to be made up fresh and to order,
    except for something like the dumplings that might only be
    finished being cooked...

    The tempura stuff is always fresh cooked too.

    It just about has to be... or it suffers greatly... Only place we've had tempura that stayed crispy after it cooled down has been, no surprise,
    Fu's.... It still is pretty decent the next day.... a lot more than can
    be said for most tempura... :)

    Suspect, tho, that the Department
    of Health wouldn't look too kindly on a practice like that.
    Indeed, if it were actually leftover bits, the Dept of Health
    wouldn't be too keen on it... too much chance for things to have
    gone a bit off before being served that way....

    Definately not something the restaurant would not want a reputation
    for.

    Exactly...

    not a place I'd return to, if that were so... :)
    We wouldn't either.
    If the food served in a bento box was off, it reflects poorly
    on the kitchen and the ownership....

    Yes, but a good one shows that the cooks are right on top of things.

    Yup... :)

    I've always seen the bento box as a good way to be able to try
    out various different foods all at the same time, almost as
    easily as at a buffet where it's all there to be chosen from....
    Usually the Korean place we go to, we have no idea what will be
    in the "box" other than the meat we've ordered and a scoop of rice.
    At Seoul House, there's a picture of the different boxes on the
    menu... sometimes the specifics are a little different... I don't
    usually get that because the salad that's part of it doesn't have
    Fu's dressing, so I don't expect it to sit well... ;)

    Very understandable.

    I thought so... (G)

    And at Fu's, I have some
    leeway as to what goes in the different sections of the box... ;)

    I think you have a bit of an "in" over there. (G)

    Mostly we have a sense of what is a reasonable substitution, and know
    that Fu likes to be agreeable... ;)

    With a buffet, we know what's offered, can pick and choose what
    we want. It is fun trying new things, which we very often do at
    a buffet, especially an Asian one.
    Most of our regular buffet stops don't often have anything
    we've not seen before... but I will sometimes get things that I
    don't always get there... :)

    You visit Asian buffets more often than we do. There's one in Savannah
    we went to from time to time but we've not come across any big ones in
    NC. Every so often in our travels we'll find one and try it out.

    An Asian buffet can be a good fallback when time's a bit short, or Fu
    isn't open... And there are lots of them in this area.... of various
    sizes and qualities... ;) We just did a quickie day trip to the Pond
    last Thursday... Richard discovered from the electric bill that probably
    the heat had been left on in the camp, so we went up to check on it
    (sure, enough it was, and he turned it off).... As long as we were that
    close to our favorite Asian buffet, we went up to Canton for dinner
    before heading back home... :)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to NANCY BACKUS on Wednesday, January 02, 2019 16:06:07
    Hi Nancy,

    think about doing that as a way to save a few pennies.
    It would most likely backfire on them... especially as
    everything NB>> in the box would normally need to be made up fresh
    and to order,
    except for something like the dumplings that might only be
    finished being cooked...

    The tempura stuff is always fresh cooked too.

    It just about has to be... or it suffers greatly... Only place we've
    had tempura that stayed crispy after it cooled down has been, no
    surprise,
    Fu's.... It still is pretty decent the next day.... a lot more than
    can be said for most tempura... :)

    It usually tends to get limp or soggy, if left too long. Don't know if
    it can be reasonable recrisped; I've never tried doing it.

    Suspect, tho, that the Department
    of Health wouldn't look too kindly on a practice like that.
    Indeed, if it were actually leftover bits, the Dept of Health
    wouldn't be too keen on it... too much chance for things to have
    gone a bit off before being served that way....

    Definately not something the restaurant would not want a reputation
    for.

    Exactly...

    Nor would I want to eat at a place that did it.

    from.... RH>> Usually the Korean place we go to, we have no idea what will be
    in the "box" other than the meat we've ordered and a scoop of
    rice. NB>> At Seoul House, there's a picture of the different boxes
    on the
    menu... sometimes the specifics are a little different... I
    don't NB>> usually get that because the salad that's part of it
    doesn't have NB>> Fu's dressing, so I don't expect it to sit well...
    ;)

    Very understandable.

    I thought so... (G)

    It's different from the usual salad dressings but in a good tasting way.
    Almost makes me wish I could take a bottle of it home with me but being
    fresh made, it probably wouldn't keep that long.

    And at Fu's, I have some
    leeway as to what goes in the different sections of the box...
    ;)

    I think you have a bit of an "in" over there. (G)

    Mostly we have a sense of what is a reasonable substitution, and know
    that Fu likes to be agreeable... ;)

    He also knows your tastes after all the times you've eaten there. (G)


    With a buffet, we know what's offered, can pick and choose what
    we want. It is fun trying new things, which we very often do at
    a buffet, especially an Asian one.
    Most of our regular buffet stops don't often have anything
    we've not seen before... but I will sometimes get things that I
    don't always get there... :)

    You visit Asian buffets more often than we do. There's one in Savannah
    we went to from time to time but we've not come across any big ones in
    NC. Every so often in our travels we'll find one and try it out.

    An Asian buffet can be a good fallback when time's a bit short, or Fu isn't open... And there are lots of them in this area.... of various
    sizes and qualities... ;) We just did a quickie day trip to the Pond
    last Thursday... Richard discovered from the electric bill that
    probably the heat had been left on in the camp, so we went up to check
    on it
    (sure, enough it was, and he turned it off).... As long as we were
    that close to our favorite Asian buffet, we went up to Canton for
    dinner
    before heading back home... :)

    Sounds like a good idea to me. We stopped at the Barbecue Buffet in SC
    before getting to Savannah on the way south. On the northbound trip, we
    stopped at a truck stop for gas and slice of pizza for supper. It was
    also dumping down rain so we weren't making good time--would have gotten
    to Savannah too late for a decent supper time, so no Asian buffet this
    trip.

    ---
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    Ruth
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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to RUTH HAFFLY on Monday, January 07, 2019 18:39:00
    Quoting Ruth Haffly to Nancy Backus on 01-02-19 15:06 <=-

    The tempura stuff is always fresh cooked too.
    It just about has to be... or it suffers greatly... Only
    place we've had tempura that stayed crispy after it cooled
    down has been, no surprise, Fu's.... It still is pretty
    decent the next day.... a lot more than can be said for
    most tempura... :)

    It usually tends to get limp or soggy, if left too long. Don't know if
    it can be reasonable recrisped; I've never tried doing it.

    Possibly slightly less soggy, but not properly crisp.... which is why
    it's so surprising that Fu's stays crisp.... :)

    Suspect, tho, that the Department
    of Health wouldn't look too kindly on a practice like that.
    Indeed, if it were actually leftover bits, the Dept of Health
    wouldn't be too keen on it... too much chance for things to have
    gone a bit off before being served that way....
    Definately not something the restaurant would not want a
    reputation for.
    Exactly...
    Nor would I want to eat at a place that did it.

    Nor would we... :)

    Usually the Korean place we go to, we have no idea what
    will be in the "box" other than the meat we've ordered and
    a scoop of rice.
    At Seoul House, there's a picture of the different boxes
    on the menu... sometimes the specifics are a little
    different... I don't usually get that because the salad that's
    part of it doesn't have Fu's dressing, so I don't expect it to
    sit well... ;)
    Very understandable.
    I thought so... (G)

    It's different from the usual salad dressings but in a good tasting
    way. Almost makes me wish I could take a bottle of it home with me but being fresh made, it probably wouldn't keep that long.

    Actually it keeps quite well... the ginger (and vinegar, maybe?)
    apparently help to preserve it.... I've had it in my fridge for at least
    a month, having used only a part of the amount I went home with for the original designated purpose... It darkens a little, but the taste
    doesn't change much, and it still sits as well as ever... :) I think
    we've paid something like $2, $2.50 for a pint container of it.... He
    doesn't normally sell it, but has (or given it) to us.... :)

    And at Fu's, I have some leeway as to what goes in the
    different sections of the box... ;)
    I think you have a bit of an "in" over there. (G)
    Mostly we have a sense of what is a reasonable substitution,
    and know that Fu likes to be agreeable... ;)

    He also knows your tastes after all the times you've eaten there. (G)

    True... and he knows about my preferring his egg omelet to surimi since
    his days at Yang's.... ;)

    With a buffet, we know what's offered, can pick and choose what
    we want. It is fun trying new things, which we very often do at
    a buffet, especially an Asian one.
    Most of our regular buffet stops don't often have anything
    we've not seen before... but I will sometimes get things that I
    don't always get there... :)
    You visit Asian buffets more often than we do. There's one in
    Savannah we went to from time to time but we've not come across
    any big ones in NC. Every so often in our travels we'll find one
    and try it out.
    An Asian buffet can be a good fallback when time's a bit short,
    or Fu isn't open... And there are lots of them in this area....
    of various sizes and qualities... ;) We just did a quickie day
    trip to the Pond last Thursday... Richard discovered from the
    electric bill that probably the heat had been left on in the
    camp, so we went up to check on it (sure, enough it was, and he
    turned it off).... As long as we were that close to our favorite
    Asian buffet, we went up to Canton for dinner before heading
    back home...

    Sounds like a good idea to me. We stopped at the Barbecue Buffet in SC before getting to Savannah on the way south. On the northbound trip,
    we stopped at a truck stop for gas and slice of pizza for supper. It
    was also dumping down rain so we weren't making good time--would have gotten to Savannah too late for a decent supper time, so no Asian
    buffet this trip.

    Oh, well.... another trip, maybe.... :)

    ttyl neb

    ... I am positive that a definite maybe is probably in order.

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to NANCY BACKUS on Tuesday, January 08, 2019 22:16:59
    Hi Nancy,

    The tempura stuff is always fresh cooked too.
    It just about has to be... or it suffers greatly... Only
    place we've had tempura that stayed crispy after it cooled
    down has been, no surprise, Fu's.... It still is pretty
    decent the next day.... a lot more than can be said for
    most tempura... :)

    It usually tends to get limp or soggy, if left too long. Don't know if
    it can be reasonable recrisped; I've never tried doing it.

    Possibly slightly less soggy, but not properly crisp.... which is why
    it's so surprising that Fu's stays crisp.... :)

    Must be something in what he uses for the coating.


    on the menu... sometimes the specifics are a little
    different... I don't usually get that because the salad that's
    part of it doesn't have Fu's dressing, so I don't expect it to
    sit well... ;)
    Very understandable.
    I thought so... (G)

    It's different from the usual salad dressings but in a good tasting
    way. Almost makes me wish I could take a bottle of it home with me but being fresh made, it probably wouldn't keep that long.

    Actually it keeps quite well... the ginger (and vinegar, maybe?) apparently help to preserve it.... I've had it in my fridge for at

    Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm..................

    least a month, having used only a part of the amount I went home with
    for the original designated purpose... It darkens a little, but the
    taste
    doesn't change much, and it still sits as well as ever... :) I think we've paid something like $2, $2.50 for a pint container of it.... He doesn't normally sell it, but has (or given it) to us.... :)

    One more enticement to go back there. (G)

    And at Fu's, I have some leeway as to what goes in the
    different sections of the box... ;)
    I think you have a bit of an "in" over there. (G)
    Mostly we have a sense of what is a reasonable substitution,
    and know that Fu likes to be agreeable... ;)

    He also knows your tastes after all the times you've eaten there. (G)

    True... and he knows about my preferring his egg omelet to surimi
    since his days at Yang's.... ;)

    Quite a history of eating his sushi then. (G)

    An Asian buffet can be a good fallback when time's a bit short,
    or Fu isn't open... And there are lots of them in this area....
    of various sizes and qualities... ;) We just did a quickie day
    trip to the Pond last Thursday... Richard discovered from the
    electric bill that probably the heat had been left on in the
    camp, so we went up to check on it (sure, enough it was, and he
    turned it off).... As long as we were that close to our favorite
    Asian buffet, we went up to Canton for dinner before heading
    back home...

    Sounds like a good idea to me. We stopped at the Barbecue Buffet in SC before getting to Savannah on the way south. On the northbound trip,
    we stopped at a truck stop for gas and slice of pizza for supper. It
    was also dumping down rain so we weren't making good time--would have gotten to Savannah too late for a decent supper time, so no Asian
    buffet this trip.

    Oh, well.... another trip, maybe.... :)

    Maybe so, but not sure when it will be.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to RUTH HAFFLY on Thursday, January 10, 2019 17:19:00
    Quoting Ruth Haffly to Nancy Backus on 01-08-19 21:16 <=-

    The tempura stuff is always fresh cooked too.
    It just about has to be... or it suffers greatly... Only
    place we've had tempura that stayed crispy after it cooled
    down has been, no surprise, Fu's.... It still is pretty
    decent the next day.... a lot more than can be said for
    most tempura... :)
    It usually tends to get limp or soggy, if left too long. Don't
    know if it can be reasonable recrisped; I've never tried doing it.
    Possibly slightly less soggy, but not properly crisp.... which is
    why it's so surprising that Fu's stays crisp.... :)

    Must be something in what he uses for the coating.

    Probably.... and in how he does the frying so that it doesn't pick up
    too much oil in the process... :)

    I don't usually get that because the salad that's part of it
    doesn't have Fu's dressing, so I don't expect it to sit well...
    Very understandable.
    I thought so... (G)
    It's different from the usual salad dressings but in a good
    tasting way. Almost makes me wish I could take a bottle of it home
    with me but being fresh made, it probably wouldn't keep that long.
    Actually it keeps quite well... the ginger (and vinegar, maybe?)
    apparently help to preserve it....

    Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm..................

    Got you thinking, eh....? ;)

    I've had it in my fridge for at least a month, having used only a
    part of the amount I went home with for the original designated
    purpose... It darkens a little, but the taste doesn't change
    much, and it still sits as well as ever... :) I think we've
    paid something like $2, $2.50 for a pint container of it.... He
    doesn't normally sell it, but has (or given it) to us.... :)

    One more enticement to go back there. (G)

    Yup... :)

    And at Fu's, I have some leeway as to what goes in the
    different sections of the box... ;)
    I think you have a bit of an "in" over there. (G)
    Mostly we have a sense of what is a reasonable substitution,
    and know that Fu likes to be agreeable... ;)
    He also knows your tastes after all the times you've eaten
    there. (G)
    True... and he knows about my preferring his egg omelet to
    surimi since his days at Yang's.... ;)

    Quite a history of eating his sushi then. (G)

    Absolutely... :)

    An Asian buffet can be a good fallback when time's a bit short,
    or Fu isn't open... And there are lots of them in this area....
    of various sizes and qualities... ;) We just did a quickie day
    trip to the Pond last Thursday... Richard discovered from the
    electric bill that probably the heat had been left on in the
    camp, so we went up to check on it (sure, enough it was, and he
    turned it off).... As long as we were that close to our favorite
    Asian buffet, we went up to Canton for dinner before heading
    back home...
    Sounds like a good idea to me. We stopped at the Barbecue Buffet
    in SC before getting to Savannah on the way south. On the
    northbound trip, we stopped at a truck stop for gas and slice of
    pizza for supper. It was also dumping down rain so we weren't
    making good time--would have gotten to Savannah too late for a
    decent supper time, so no Asian buffet this trip.
    Oh, well.... another trip, maybe.... :)

    Maybe so, but not sure when it will be.

    True. :)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to NANCY BACKUS on Friday, January 11, 2019 15:17:37
    Hi Nancy,

    It usually tends to get limp or soggy, if left too long. Don't
    know if it can be reasonable recrisped; I've never tried doing
    it. NB>> Possibly slightly less soggy, but not properly crisp....
    which is NB>> why it's so surprising that Fu's stays crisp.... :)

    Must be something in what he uses for the coating.

    Probably.... and in how he does the frying so that it doesn't pick up
    too much oil in the process... :)

    That is something that can be tricky, getting just the right heat so not
    too much oil is picked up in the frying.

    It's different from the usual salad dressings but in a good
    tasting way. Almost makes me wish I could take a bottle of it
    home RH>> with me but being fresh made, it probably wouldn't keep
    that long. NB>> Actually it keeps quite well... the ginger (and
    vinegar, maybe?)
    apparently help to preserve it....

    Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm..................

    Got you thinking, eh....? ;)

    Gee, what gave you the idea I'm mentally debating something? (G)

    I've had it in my fridge for at least a month, having used only
    a NB>> part of the amount I went home with for the original
    designated
    purpose... It darkens a little, but the taste doesn't change
    much, and it still sits as well as ever... :) I think we've
    paid something like $2, $2.50 for a pint container of it.... He
    doesn't normally sell it, but has (or given it) to us.... :)

    One more enticement to go back there. (G)

    Yup... :)

    As long as we have the camper and room in the fridge, or a cooler with
    us, it's possible to take some back to NC. That is, if he's willing to
    sell out of state...............

    He also knows your tastes after all the times you've eaten
    there. (G)
    True... and he knows about my preferring his egg omelet to
    surimi since his days at Yang's.... ;)

    Quite a history of eating his sushi then. (G)

    Absolutely... :)

    How many years, between the various places, have you known him?

    electric bill that probably the heat had been left on in the
    camp, so we went up to check on it (sure, enough it was, and he
    turned it off).... As long as we were that close to our
    favorite NB>>> Asian buffet, we went up to Canton for dinner before heading
    back home...
    Sounds like a good idea to me. We stopped at the Barbecue Buffet
    in SC before getting to Savannah on the way south. On the
    northbound trip, we stopped at a truck stop for gas and slice of
    pizza for supper. It was also dumping down rain so we weren't
    making good time--would have gotten to Savannah too late for a
    decent supper time, so no Asian buffet this trip.
    Oh, well.... another trip, maybe.... :)

    Maybe so, but not sure when it will be.

    True. :)

    Hopefully no emergercy trips to Florida this spring, like we had last
    year. Doing so any earlier than mid March or so would be rather rough on
    the knee, but if we have to, we will go.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to RUTH HAFFLY on Tuesday, January 15, 2019 23:16:00
    Quoting Ruth Haffly to Nancy Backus on 01-11-19 14:17 <=-

    It usually tends to get limp or soggy, if left too long. Don't
    know if it can be reasonable recrisped; I've never tried doing
    it.
    Possibly slightly less soggy, but not properly crisp.... which
    is why it's so surprising that Fu's stays crisp.... :)
    Must be something in what he uses for the coating.
    Probably.... and in how he does the frying so that it doesn't
    pick up too much oil in the process... :)

    That is something that can be tricky, getting just the right heat so
    not too much oil is picked up in the frying.

    Exactly... :)

    It's different from the usual salad dressings but in a good
    tasting way. Almost makes me wish I could take a bottle of it
    home with me but being fresh made, it probably wouldn't keep
    that long.
    Actually it keeps quite well... the ginger (and vinegar,
    maybe?) apparently help to preserve it....
    Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm..................
    Got you thinking, eh....? ;)

    Gee, what gave you the idea I'm mentally debating something? (G)

    I wonder... ;)

    I've had it in my fridge for at least a month, having used only
    a part of the amount I went home with for the original
    designated purpose... It darkens a little, but the taste doesn't
    change much, and it still sits as well as ever... :) I think
    we've paid something like $2, $2.50 for a pint container of it...
    He doesn't normally sell it, but has (or given it) to us.... :)
    One more enticement to go back there. (G)
    Yup... :)

    As long as we have the camper and room in the fridge, or a cooler with
    us, it's possible to take some back to NC. That is, if he's willing to sell out of state...............

    He'd be selling in state.... you're the ones that would take it out of
    state, afterwards... :)

    He also knows your tastes after all the times you've eaten
    there. (G)
    True... and he knows about my preferring his egg omelet to
    surimi since his days at Yang's.... ;)
    Quite a history of eating his sushi then. (G)
    Absolutely... :)

    How many years, between the various places, have you known him?

    At least 25. maybe more....

    electric bill that probably the heat had been left on in the
    camp, so we went up to check on it (sure, enough it was, and
    he turned it off).... As long as we were that close to our
    favorite Asian buffet, we went up to Canton for dinner before
    heading back home...
    Sounds like a good idea to me. We stopped at the Barbecue Buffet
    in SC before getting to Savannah on the way south. On the
    northbound trip, we stopped at a truck stop for gas and slice of
    pizza for supper. It was also dumping down rain so we weren't
    making good time--would have gotten to Savannah too late for a
    decent supper time, so no Asian buffet this trip.
    Oh, well.... another trip, maybe.... :)
    Maybe so, but not sure when it will be.
    True. :)

    Hopefully no emergency trips to Florida this spring, like we had last year. Doing so any earlier than mid March or so would be rather rough
    on the knee, but if we have to, we will go.

    Quite understood... :) It's like Donna taking off right after her
    surgery for her father's funeral.... some things you just have to do...

    ttyl neb

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to NANCY BACKUS on Sunday, January 20, 2019 22:16:44
    Hi Nancy,

    Possibly slightly less soggy, but not properly crisp.... which
    is why it's so surprising that Fu's stays crisp.... :)
    Must be something in what he uses for the coating.
    Probably.... and in how he does the frying so that it doesn't
    pick up too much oil in the process... :)

    That is something that can be tricky, getting just the right heat so
    not too much oil is picked up in the frying.

    Exactly... :)

    Have you asked what he does to get the coating to stay crispy, even into
    the next day?

    Actually it keeps quite well... the ginger (and vinegar,
    maybe?) apparently help to preserve it....
    Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm..................
    Got you thinking, eh....? ;)

    Gee, what gave you the idea I'm mentally debating something? (G)

    I wonder... ;)

    Somthing must have given you an idea.

    doesn't NB>>> change much, and it still sits as well as ever... :) I think
    we've paid something like $2, $2.50 for a pint container of
    it... NB>>> He doesn't normally sell it, but has (or given it) to
    us.... :)
    One more enticement to go back there. (G)
    Yup... :)

    As long as we have the camper and room in the fridge, or a cooler with
    us, it's possible to take some back to NC. That is, if he's willing to sell out of state...............

    He'd be selling in state.... you're the ones that would take it out of state, afterwards... :)

    True; we are thinking of a trip that way over the summer. After all the
    travel of last year, we will probaby do less this year.

    True... and he knows about my preferring his egg omelet to
    surimi since his days at Yang's.... ;)
    Quite a history of eating his sushi then. (G)
    Absolutely... :)

    How many years, between the various places, have you known him?

    At least 25. maybe more....

    That dates back to when we were in AZ and had both girls still at home.

    northbound trip, we stopped at a truck stop for gas and slice
    of RH>>> pizza for supper. It was also dumping down rain so we
    weren't
    making good time--would have gotten to Savannah too late for a
    decent supper time, so no Asian buffet this trip.
    Oh, well.... another trip, maybe.... :)
    Maybe so, but not sure when it will be.
    True. :)

    Hopefully no emergency trips to Florida this spring, like we had last year. Doing so any earlier than mid March or so would be rather rough
    on the knee, but if we have to, we will go.

    Quite understood... :) It's like Donna taking off right after her surgery for her father's funeral.... some things you just have to
    do...

    True, but now Steve is talking with his thumb doctor about surgery in
    mid to late March.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to RUTH HAFFLY on Friday, January 25, 2019 23:46:00
    Quoting Ruth Haffly to Nancy Backus on 01-20-19 21:16 <=-

    Possibly slightly less soggy, but not properly crisp.... which
    is why it's so surprising that Fu's stays crisp.... :)
    Must be something in what he uses for the coating.
    Probably.... and in how he does the frying so that it doesn't
    pick up too much oil in the process... :)
    That is something that can be tricky, getting just the right
    heat so not too much oil is picked up in the frying.
    Exactly... :)

    Have you asked what he does to get the coating to stay crispy, even
    into the next day?

    Yes, and basically it's what he uses for his batter (details not
    specified), and that he makes sure his oil is right... :)

    Actually it keeps quite well... the ginger (and vinegar,
    maybe?) apparently help to preserve it....
    Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm..................
    Got you thinking, eh....? ;)
    Gee, what gave you the idea I'm mentally debating something? (G)
    I wonder... ;)

    Somthing must have given you an idea.

    Yup... a rather pronouced hmmmmmmm.... ;)

    doesn't change much, and it still sits as well as ever... :) I
    think we've paid something like $2, $2.50 for a pint container
    of it... He doesn't normally sell it, but has (or given it) to
    us.... :)
    One more enticement to go back there. (G)
    Yup... :)
    As long as we have the camper and room in the fridge, or a cooler
    with us, it's possible to take some back to NC. That is, if he's
    willing to sell out of state...............
    He'd be selling in state.... you're the ones that would take it
    out of state, afterwards... :)

    True; we are thinking of a trip that way over the summer. After all
    the travel of last year, we will probably do less this year.

    Besides, you both are facing surgeries... :)

    True... and he knows about my preferring his egg omelet to
    surimi since his days at Yang's.... ;)
    Quite a history of eating his sushi then. (G)
    Absolutely... :)
    How many years, between the various places, have you known him?
    At least 25. maybe more....

    That dates back to when we were in AZ and had both girls still at
    home.

    Sounds about right... probably about the time our kid went off to
    college... :)

    northbound trip, we stopped at a truck stop for gas and slice
    of pizza for supper. It was also dumping down rain so we
    weren't making good time--would have gotten to Savannah too
    late for a decent supper time, so no Asian buffet this trip.
    Oh, well.... another trip, maybe.... :)
    Maybe so, but not sure when it will be.
    True. :)
    Hopefully no emergency trips to Florida this spring, like we
    had last year. Doing so any earlier than mid March or so would
    be rather rough on the knee, but if we have to, we will go.
    Quite understood... :) It's like Donna taking off right after
    her surgery for her father's funeral.... some things you just
    have to do...

    True, but now Steve is talking with his thumb doctor about surgery in
    mid to late March.

    Will he be able to drive very soon after surgery...?

    ttyl neb

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to NANCY BACKUS on Sunday, January 27, 2019 21:20:13
    Hi Nancy,

    That is something that can be tricky, getting just the right
    heat so not too much oil is picked up in the frying.
    Exactly... :)

    Have you asked what he does to get the coating to stay crispy, even
    into the next day?

    Yes, and basically it's what he uses for his batter (details not specified), and that he makes sure his oil is right... :)

    Cook's secrets, IOW. (G)


    Actually it keeps quite well... the ginger (and vinegar,
    maybe?) apparently help to preserve it....
    Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm..................
    Got you thinking, eh....? ;)
    Gee, what gave you the idea I'm mentally debating something? (G)
    I wonder... ;)

    Somthing must have given you an idea.

    Yup... a rather pronouced hmmmmmmm.... ;)

    A pronounced give away.

    As long as we have the camper and room in the fridge, or a
    cooler RH>> with us, it's possible to take some back to NC. That is,
    if he's
    willing to sell out of state...............
    He'd be selling in state.... you're the ones that would take it
    out of state, afterwards... :)

    True; we are thinking of a trip that way over the summer. After all
    the travel of last year, we will probably do less this year.

    Besides, you both are facing surgeries... :)

    Yes, and no graduations out west this year--that was the impetus for the
    trip out there last year.

    Quite a history of eating his sushi then. (G)
    Absolutely... :)
    How many years, between the various places, have you known him?
    At least 25. maybe more....

    That dates back to when we were in AZ and had both girls still at
    home.

    Sounds about right... probably about the time our kid went off to college... :)

    And you've enjoyed every bite. (G)

    Hopefully no emergency trips to Florida this spring, like we
    had last year. Doing so any earlier than mid March or so would
    be rather rough on the knee, but if we have to, we will go.
    Quite understood... :) It's like Donna taking off right after
    her surgery for her father's funeral.... some things you just
    have to do...

    True, but now Steve is talking with his thumb doctor about surgery in
    mid to late March.

    Will he be able to drive very soon after surgery...?

    I'm not sure; I think he's exploring a couple of options, one would have
    a longer recovery/rehab time than the other but don't know about how
    either one would affect driving.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to RUTH HAFFLY on Thursday, January 31, 2019 18:34:00
    Quoting Ruth Haffly to Nancy Backus on 01-27-19 20:20 <=-

    That is something that can be tricky, getting just the right
    heat so not too much oil is picked up in the frying.
    Exactly... :)
    Have you asked what he does to get the coating to stay crispy,
    even into the next day?
    Yes, and basically it's what he uses for his batter (details not
    specified), and that he makes sure his oil is right... :)

    Cook's secrets, IOW. (G)

    The specifics, anyway... ;)

    Actually it keeps quite well... the ginger (and vinegar,
    maybe?) apparently help to preserve it....
    Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm..................
    Got you thinking, eh....? ;)
    Gee, what gave you the idea I'm mentally debating something? (G)
    I wonder... ;)
    Somthing must have given you an idea.
    Yup... a rather pronouced hmmmmmmm.... ;)

    A pronounced give away.

    Yup... ;)

    As long as we have the camper and room in the fridge, or a
    cooler with us, it's possible to take some back to NC. That is,
    if he's willing to sell out of state...............
    He'd be selling in state.... you're the ones that would take it
    out of state, afterwards... :)
    True; we are thinking of a trip that way over the summer. After
    all the travel of last year, we will probably do less this year.
    Besides, you both are facing surgeries... :)

    Yes, and no graduations out west this year--that was the impetus for
    the trip out there last year.

    Indeed... :)

    Quite a history of eating his sushi then. (G)
    Absolutely... :)
    How many years, between the various places, have you known him?
    At least 25. maybe more....
    That dates back to when we were in AZ and had both girls still at
    home.
    Sounds about right... probably about the time our kid went off to
    college... :)

    And you've enjoyed every bite. (G)

    Absolutely... :)

    Hopefully no emergency trips to Florida this spring, like we
    had last year. Doing so any earlier than mid March or so would
    be rather rough on the knee, but if we have to, we will go.
    Quite understood... :) It's like Donna taking off right after
    her surgery for her father's funeral.... some things you just
    have to do...
    True, but now Steve is talking with his thumb doctor about
    surgery in mid to late March.
    Will he be able to drive very soon after surgery...?

    I'm not sure; I think he's exploring a couple of options, one would
    have a longer recovery/rehab time than the other but don't know about
    how either one would affect driving.

    I guess that you'll get more information as the time gets closer... With
    him being your sole driver, it will be important....

    ttyl neb

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to NANCY BACKUS on Friday, February 01, 2019 21:31:36
    Hi Nancy,

    Have you asked what he does to get the coating to stay crispy,
    even into the next day?
    Yes, and basically it's what he uses for his batter (details not
    specified), and that he makes sure his oil is right... :)

    Cook's secrets, IOW. (G)

    The specifics, anyway... ;)

    Yes, and they will remain a secret, at least for now.

    As long as we have the camper and room in the fridge, or a
    cooler with us, it's possible to take some back to NC. That is,
    if he's willing to sell out of state...............
    He'd be selling in state.... you're the ones that would take it
    out of state, afterwards... :)
    True; we are thinking of a trip that way over the summer. After
    all the travel of last year, we will probably do less this year.
    Besides, you both are facing surgeries... :)

    Yes, and no graduations out west this year--that was the impetus for
    the trip out there last year.

    Indeed... :)

    Steve has been talking about going back to a camp ground in the 1000
    Islands his family used to camp at. May do that, then swing into western
    NY for a few days, then down to the Creation Museum. Have to see how
    recovery goes.

    Quite a history of eating his sushi then. (G)
    Absolutely... :)
    How many years, between the various places, have you known him?
    At least 25. maybe more....
    That dates back to when we were in AZ and had both girls still
    at RH>> home.
    Sounds about right... probably about the time our kid went off
    to NB>> college... :)

    And you've enjoyed every bite. (G)

    Absolutely... :)

    No surprise there. (G)

    Hopefully no emergency trips to Florida this spring, like we
    had last year. Doing so any earlier than mid March or so would
    be rather rough on the knee, but if we have to, we will go.
    Quite understood... :) It's like Donna taking off right after
    her surgery for her father's funeral.... some things you just
    have to do...
    True, but now Steve is talking with his thumb doctor about
    surgery in mid to late March.
    Will he be able to drive very soon after surgery...?

    I'm not sure; I think he's exploring a couple of options, one would
    have a longer recovery/rehab time than the other but don't know about
    how either one would affect driving.

    I guess that you'll get more information as the time gets closer...
    With him being your sole driver, it will be important....

    Yes, but now he wants to check out some non surgical options instead of committing to surgery at this time.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to RUTH HAFFLY on Wednesday, February 06, 2019 21:42:00
    Quoting Ruth Haffly to Nancy Backus on 02-01-19 20:31 <=-

    Have you asked what he does to get the coating to stay crispy,
    even into the next day?
    Yes, and basically it's what he uses for his batter (details not
    specified), and that he makes sure his oil is right... :)
    Cook's secrets, IOW. (G)
    The specifics, anyway... ;)

    Yes, and they will remain a secret, at least for now.

    It might even be that if he did divulge the specifics, the actual
    working out of the process would still have some not mentioned aspects
    to it.... or be in the touch.... ;)

    As long as we have the camper and room in the fridge, or a
    cooler with us, it's possible to take some back to NC. That is,
    if he's willing to sell out of state...............
    He'd be selling in state.... you're the ones that would take it
    out of state, afterwards... :)
    True; we are thinking of a trip that way over the summer. After
    all the travel of last year, we will probably do less this year.
    Besides, you both are facing surgeries... :)
    Yes, and no graduations out west this year--that was the impetus
    for the trip out there last year.
    Indeed... :)

    Steve has been talking about going back to a camp ground in the 1000 Islands his family used to camp at. May do that, then swing into
    western NY for a few days, then down to the Creation Museum. Have to
    see how recovery goes.

    That could be fun... :) And keep you on the east coast.... ;)

    Quite a history of eating his sushi then. (G)
    Absolutely... :)
    How many years, between the various places, have you known him?
    At least 25. maybe more....
    That dates back to when we were in AZ and had both girls still
    at home.
    Sounds about right... probably about the time our kid went off
    to college... :)
    And you've enjoyed every bite. (G)
    Absolutely... :)

    No surprise there. (G)

    Nope, not at all.... :) Still not tiring of his sushi... or his
    sashimi, or any of his other specialties.... :)

    Hopefully no emergency trips to Florida this spring, like we
    had last year. Doing so any earlier than mid March or so would
    be rather rough on the knee, but if we have to, we will go.
    Quite understood... :) It's like Donna taking off right after
    her surgery for her father's funeral.... some things you just
    have to do...
    True, but now Steve is talking with his thumb doctor about
    surgery in mid to late March.
    Will he be able to drive very soon after surgery...?
    I'm not sure; I think he's exploring a couple of options, one
    would have a longer recovery/rehab time than the other but don't
    know about how either one would affect driving.
    I guess that you'll get more information as the time gets
    closer... With him being your sole driver, it will be important..

    Yes, but now he wants to check out some non surgical options instead
    of committing to surgery at this time.

    If those are indeed options, it could be a wise choice for this year...

    ttyl neb

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to NANCY BACKUS on Thursday, February 07, 2019 16:25:23
    Hi Nancy,

    Have you asked what he does to get the coating to stay crispy,
    even into the next day?
    Yes, and basically it's what he uses for his batter (details
    not NB>>> specified), and that he makes sure his oil is right... :)
    Cook's secrets, IOW. (G)
    The specifics, anyway... ;)

    Yes, and they will remain a secret, at least for now.

    It might even be that if he did divulge the specifics, the actual
    working out of the process would still have some not mentioned aspects
    to it.... or be in the touch.... ;)

    A lot going into it that's not divulged--typical of a lot of things, not
    just good cooking. (G)


    As long as we have the camper and room in the fridge, or a
    cooler with us, it's possible to take some back to NC. That
    is, RH>>>> if he's willing to sell out of state...............
    He'd be selling in state.... you're the ones that would take
    it NB>>>> out of state, afterwards... :)
    True; we are thinking of a trip that way over the summer. After
    all the travel of last year, we will probably do less this
    year. NB>>> Besides, you both are facing surgeries... :)
    Yes, and no graduations out west this year--that was the impetus
    for the trip out there last year.
    Indeed... :)

    Steve has been talking about going back to a camp ground in the 1000 Islands his family used to camp at. May do that, then swing into
    western NY for a few days, then down to the Creation Museum. Have to
    see how recovery goes.

    That could be fun... :) And keep you on the east coast.... ;)

    A more relaxing trip too. a possiblity, tho not sure, we might join the
    team for VT, then head over to NY and down to KY (Creation Museum). Team
    would then have us there for cooking again. (G)

    Sounds about right... probably about the time our kid went off
    to college... :)
    And you've enjoyed every bite. (G)
    Absolutely... :)

    No surprise there. (G)

    Nope, not at all.... :) Still not tiring of his sushi... or his
    sashimi, or any of his other specialties.... :)

    With that quality, it's easy to see why.

    True, but now Steve is talking with his thumb doctor about
    surgery in mid to late March.
    Will he be able to drive very soon after surgery...?
    I'm not sure; I think he's exploring a couple of options, one
    would have a longer recovery/rehab time than the other but don't
    know about how either one would affect driving.
    I guess that you'll get more information as the time gets
    closer... With him being your sole driver, it will be
    important..

    Yes, but now he wants to check out some non surgical options instead
    of committing to surgery at this time.

    If those are indeed options, it could be a wise choice for this
    year...

    He will talk with my knee dr next week. He might go for the platelet
    injection therapy, don't know for sure yet.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to RUTH HAFFLY on Sunday, February 10, 2019 23:43:00
    Quoting Ruth Haffly to Nancy Backus on 02-07-19 15:25 <=-

    Have you asked what he does to get the coating to stay crispy,
    even into the next day?
    Yes, and basically it's what he uses for his batter (details
    not specified), and that he makes sure his oil is right... :)
    Cook's secrets, IOW. (G)
    The specifics, anyway... ;)
    Yes, and they will remain a secret, at least for now.
    It might even be that if he did divulge the specifics, the
    actual working out of the process would still have some not
    mentioned aspects to it.... or be in the touch.... ;)

    A lot going into it that's not divulged--typical of a lot of things,
    not just good cooking. (G)

    Yup. :)

    As long as we have the camper and room in the fridge, or a
    cooler with us, it's possible to take some back to NC. That
    is, if he's willing to sell out of state...............
    He'd be selling in state.... you're the ones that would take
    it out of state, afterwards... :)
    True; we are thinking of a trip that way over the summer. After
    all the travel of last year, we will probably do less this
    year.
    Besides, you both are facing surgeries... :)
    Yes, and no graduations out west this year--that was the impetus
    for the trip out there last year.
    Indeed... :)
    Steve has been talking about going back to a camp ground in the
    1000 Islands his family used to camp at. May do that, then
    swing into western NY for a few days, then down to the Creation
    Museum. Have to see how recovery goes.
    That could be fun... :) And keep you on the east coast.... ;)

    A more relaxing trip too. a possiblity, tho not sure, we might join
    the team for VT, then head over to NY and down to KY (Creation Museum). Team would then have us there for cooking again. (G)

    They'd certainly be happy with your being there... ;)

    No surprise there. (G)
    Nope, not at all.... :) Still not tiring of his sushi... or his
    sashimi, or any of his other specialties.... :)

    With that quality, it's easy to see why.

    Exactly... :)

    True, but now Steve is talking with his thumb doctor about
    surgery in mid to late March.
    Will he be able to drive very soon after surgery...?
    I'm not sure; I think he's exploring a couple of options, one
    would have a longer recovery/rehab time than the other but don't
    know about how either one would affect driving.
    I guess that you'll get more information as the time gets
    closer... With him being your sole driver, it will be
    important..
    Yes, but now he wants to check out some non surgical options
    instead of committing to surgery at this time.
    If those are indeed options, it could be a wise choice for this
    year...

    He will talk with my knee dr next week. He might go for the platelet injection therapy, don't know for sure yet.

    That sounds like a fairly new technology... hadn't heard of that
    before....

    ttyl neb

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to NANCY BACKUS on Monday, February 11, 2019 16:02:18
    Hi Nancy,

    Cook's secrets, IOW. (G)
    The specifics, anyway... ;)
    Yes, and they will remain a secret, at least for now.
    It might even be that if he did divulge the specifics, the
    actual working out of the process would still have some not
    mentioned aspects to it.... or be in the touch.... ;)

    A lot going into it that's not divulged--typical of a lot of things,
    not just good cooking. (G)

    Yup. :)

    And all done to order so it stays as fresh as possible.


    Steve has been talking about going back to a camp ground in the
    1000 Islands his family used to camp at. May do that, then
    swing into western NY for a few days, then down to the Creation
    Museum. Have to see how recovery goes.
    That could be fun... :) And keep you on the east coast.... ;)

    A more relaxing trip too. a possiblity, tho not sure, we might join
    the team for VT, then head over to NY and down to KY (Creation Museum). Team would then have us there for cooking again. (G)

    They'd certainly be happy with your being there... ;)

    Plus, the flexibility of our having a 2nd vehicle. Will probably
    reconsider some of the travel plans now but if we can get the trip to
    1000 Islands in, in conjunction with the VT trip, we can do KY (and
    maybe western NY0 later. I'm sure the VT team would help with the
    cooking if I planned the meals.


    No surprise there. (G)
    Nope, not at all.... :) Still not tiring of his sushi... or his
    sashimi, or any of his other specialties.... :)

    With that quality, it's easy to see why.

    Exactly... :)

    We may be able to get some later this year--see how things go.

    I guess that you'll get more information as the time gets
    closer... With him being your sole driver, it will be
    important..
    Yes, but now he wants to check out some non surgical options
    instead of committing to surgery at this time.
    If those are indeed options, it could be a wise choice for this
    year...

    He will talk with my knee dr next week. He might go for the platelet injection therapy, don't know for sure yet.

    That sounds like a fairly new technology... hadn't heard of that before....

    It is relatively new, within the past 5 years or so. The idea behind it
    is that it is supposed to stimulate your body to make its own healing
    cells in the affected area. Not usually covered by insurance tho.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to RUTH HAFFLY on Saturday, February 16, 2019 18:35:00
    Quoting Ruth Haffly to Nancy Backus on 02-11-19 15:02 <=-

    Cook's secrets, IOW. (G)
    The specifics, anyway... ;)
    Yes, and they will remain a secret, at least for now.
    It might even be that if he did divulge the specifics, the
    actual working out of the process would still have some not
    mentioned aspects to it.... or be in the touch.... ;)
    A lot going into it that's not divulged--typical of a lot of
    things, not just good cooking. (G)
    Yup. :)

    And all done to order so it stays as fresh as possible.

    But of course... :)

    Steve has been talking about going back to a camp ground in the
    1000 Islands his family used to camp at. May do that, then
    swing into western NY for a few days, then down to the Creation
    Museum. Have to see how recovery goes.
    That could be fun... :) And keep you on the east coast.... ;)
    A more relaxing trip too. a possiblity, tho not sure, we might join
    the team for VT, then head over to NY and down to KY (Creation Museum).
    Team would then have us there for cooking again. (G)
    They'd certainly be happy with your being there... ;)

    Plus, the flexibility of our having a 2nd vehicle. Will probably reconsider some of the travel plans now but if we can get the trip to
    1000 Islands in, in conjunction with the VT trip, we can do KY (and
    maybe western NY) later. I'm sure the VT team would help with the
    cooking if I planned the meals.

    And now you also have the girls planning to come east.... :) Plenty to balance.... ;) And as for cooking for the VT team, you could also be supervising the cooking... be the head chef... (G)

    No surprise there. (G)
    Nope, not at all.... :) Still not tiring of his sushi... or his
    sashimi, or any of his other specialties.... :)
    With that quality, it's easy to see why.
    Exactly... :)

    We may be able to get some later this year--see how things go.

    Just have to see... :)

    I guess that you'll get more information as the time gets
    closer... With him being your sole driver, it will be
    important..
    Yes, but now he wants to check out some non surgical options
    instead of committing to surgery at this time.
    If those are indeed options, it could be a wise choice for this
    year...
    He will talk with my knee dr next week. He might go for the
    platelet injection therapy, don't know for sure yet.
    That sounds like a fairly new technology... hadn't heard of that
    before....

    It is relatively new, within the past 5 years or so. The idea behind
    it is that it is supposed to stimulate your body to make its own
    healing cells in the affected area. Not usually covered by insurance
    tho.

    Are there clinical tests with it that Steve might be able to get
    into...? That's a way of having new/experimental treatments covered...

    ttyl neb

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to NANCY BACKUS on Thursday, February 28, 2019 16:52:58
    Hi Nancy,

    A lot going into it that's not divulged--typical of a lot of
    things, not just good cooking. (G)
    Yup. :)

    And all done to order so it stays as fresh as possible.

    But of course... :)

    So much better than stuff that's sat around too long.

    Steve has been talking about going back to a camp ground in the
    1000 Islands his family used to camp at. May do that, then
    swing into western NY for a few days, then down to the Creation
    Museum. Have to see how recovery goes.
    That could be fun... :) And keep you on the east coast.... ;)
    A more relaxing trip too. a possiblity, tho not sure, we might
    join RH>> the team for VT, then head over to NY and down to KY
    (Creation Museum). RH>> Team would then have us there for cooking
    again. (G)
    They'd certainly be happy with your being there... ;)

    Plus, the flexibility of our having a 2nd vehicle. Will probably reconsider some of the travel plans now but if we can get the trip to
    1000 Islands in, in conjunction with the VT trip, we can do KY (and
    maybe western NY) later. I'm sure the VT team would help with the
    cooking if I planned the meals.

    And now you also have the girls planning to come east.... :) Plenty
    to balance.... ;) And as for cooking for the VT team, you could also
    be
    supervising the cooking... be the head chef... (G)

    The therapist that has been coming to the house thinks I should be able
    to do VT this year. Have to see if we can plan so that the other parts
    of the trip can be done before VT. I'd plan more meals that more of
    could be fixed while sitting down, not that much room in the kitchen for
    more than about 3 people to work comfortably.

    He will talk with my knee dr next week. He might go for the
    platelet injection therapy, don't know for sure yet.
    That sounds like a fairly new technology... hadn't heard of that
    before....

    It is relatively new, within the past 5 years or so. The idea behind
    it is that it is supposed to stimulate your body to make its own
    healing cells in the affected area. Not usually covered by insurance
    tho.

    Are there clinical tests with it that Steve might be able to get
    into...? That's a way of having new/experimental treatments
    covered...

    He went with an initial injection of his own platelets, said it seems to
    be working as well as the cortisone. Time will tell if he will need or
    go with another round.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to RUTH HAFFLY on Wednesday, March 06, 2019 00:04:00
    Quoting Ruth Haffly to Nancy Backus on 02-28-19 15:52 <=-

    A lot going into it that's not divulged--typical of a lot of
    things, not just good cooking. (G)
    Yup. :)
    And all done to order so it stays as fresh as possible.
    But of course... :)

    So much better than stuff that's sat around too long.

    Exactly... :)

    Steve has been talking about going back to a camp ground in the
    1000 Islands his family used to camp at. May do that, then
    swing into western NY for a few days, then down to the Creation
    Museum. Have to see how recovery goes.
    That could be fun... :) And keep you on the east coast.... ;)
    A more relaxing trip too. a possiblity, tho not sure, we might
    join the team for VT, then head over to NY and down to KY
    (Creation Museum). Team would then have us there for cooking
    again. (G)
    They'd certainly be happy with your being there... ;)
    Plus, the flexibility of our having a 2nd vehicle. Will probably
    reconsider some of the travel plans now but if we can get the
    trip to 1000 Islands in, in conjunction with the VT trip, we can
    do KY (and maybe western NY) later. I'm sure the VT team would
    help with the cooking if I planned the meals.
    And now you also have the girls planning to come east.... :)
    Plenty to balance.... ;) And as for cooking for the VT team, you
    could also be supervising the cooking... be the head chef... (G)

    The therapist that has been coming to the house thinks I should be
    able to do VT this year. Have to see if we can plan so that the other parts of the trip can be done before VT. I'd plan more meals that more
    of could be fixed while sitting down, not that much room in the kitchen for more than about 3 people to work comfortably.

    Sounds like you'll figure out something that will work well... :)

    He will talk with my knee dr next week. He might go for the
    platelet injection therapy, don't know for sure yet.
    That sounds like a fairly new technology... hadn't heard of that
    before....
    It is relatively new, within the past 5 years or so. The idea
    behind it is that it is supposed to stimulate your body to make
    its own healing cells in the affected area. Not usually covered
    by insurance tho.
    Are there clinical tests with it that Steve might be able to get
    into...? That's a way of having new/experimental treatments
    covered...

    He went with an initial injection of his own platelets, said it seems
    to be working as well as the cortisone. Time will tell if he will need
    or go with another round.

    Did insurance help pay for it...? Seems as though it's working... and
    sounds as though it should be safer than the cortisone shots... :)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to NANCY BACKUS on Wednesday, March 06, 2019 16:11:30
    Hi Nancy,

    And all done to order so it stays as fresh as possible.
    But of course... :)

    So much better than stuff that's sat around too long.

    Exactly... :)

    The old Mark Twain quote about guests and fish both stinking after 3
    days may be appropriate?

    do KY (and maybe western NY) later. I'm sure the VT team would
    help with the cooking if I planned the meals.
    And now you also have the girls planning to come east.... :)
    Plenty to balance.... ;) And as for cooking for the VT team,
    you NB>> could also be supervising the cooking... be the head chef...
    (G)

    The therapist that has been coming to the house thinks I should be
    able to do VT this year. Have to see if we can plan so that the other parts of the trip can be done before VT. I'd plan more meals that more
    of could be fixed while sitting down, not that much room in the kitchen for more than about 3 people to work comfortably.

    Sounds like you'll figure out something that will work well... :)

    The other alternative is to plan on not going to VT this year and just
    do the other parts of the trip. We'd miss the maple creemees but........

    behind it is that it is supposed to stimulate your body to make
    its own healing cells in the affected area. Not usually covered
    by insurance tho.
    Are there clinical tests with it that Steve might be able to get
    into...? That's a way of having new/experimental treatments
    covered...

    He went with an initial injection of his own platelets, said it seems
    to be working as well as the cortisone. Time will tell if he will need
    or go with another round.

    Did insurance help pay for it...? Seems as though it's working... and sounds as though it should be safer than the cortisone shots... :)

    It was an out of pocket cost as insurance still considers it as an
    experimental treatment. It's injecting your own blood platelets back
    into your body so there shouldn't be a rejection issue. I guess it's
    something that will take some time to see how effective it is.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to RUTH HAFFLY on Sunday, March 10, 2019 23:05:00
    Quoting Ruth Haffly to Nancy Backus on 03-06-19 15:11 <=-

    And all done to order so it stays as fresh as possible.
    But of course... :)
    So much better than stuff that's sat around too long.
    Exactly... :)

    The old Mark Twain quote about guests and fish both stinking after 3
    days may be appropriate?

    Some places, probably... At least not so much Wegmans (they don't let
    theirs sit that long) and definitely not Fu.... :)

    do KY (and maybe western NY) later. I'm sure the VT team would
    help with the cooking if I planned the meals.
    And now you also have the girls planning to come east.... :)
    Plenty to balance.... ;) And as for cooking for the VT team,
    you could also be supervising the cooking... be the head chef...
    The therapist that has been coming to the house thinks I should
    be able to do VT this year. Have to see if we can plan so that
    the other parts of the trip can be done before VT. I'd plan more
    meals that more of could be fixed while sitting down, not that
    much room in the kitchen for more than about 3 people to work
    comfortably.
    Sounds like you'll figure out something that will work well... :)

    The other alternative is to plan on not going to VT this year and just
    do the other parts of the trip. We'd miss the maple creemees
    but........

    You'd also miss the fun of the trip with the rest of the team.... but,
    on the other hand, you don't want to overdo things either....

    behind it is that it is supposed to stimulate your body to make
    its own healing cells in the affected area. Not usually covered
    by insurance tho.
    Are there clinical tests with it that Steve might be able to get
    into...? That's a way of having new/experimental treatments
    covered...
    He went with an initial injection of his own platelets, said it
    seems to be working as well as the cortisone. Time will tell if he
    will need or go with another round.
    Did insurance help pay for it...? Seems as though it's working...
    and sounds as though it should be safer than the cortisone shots...

    It was an out of pocket cost as insurance still considers it as an experimental treatment. It's injecting your own blood platelets back
    into your body so there shouldn't be a rejection issue. I guess it's something that will take some time to see how effective it is.

    I guess so... Hopefully not too terribly expensive...?

    ttyl neb

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to NANCY BACKUS on Monday, March 11, 2019 17:53:19
    Hi Nancy,

    And all done to order so it stays as fresh as possible.
    But of course... :)
    So much better than stuff that's sat around too long.
    Exactly... :)

    The old Mark Twain quote about guests and fish both stinking after 3
    days may be appropriate?

    Some places, probably... At least not so much Wegmans (they don't let theirs sit that long) and definitely not Fu.... :)

    Both Fu and Wegman's know how to treat fish properly.


    Sounds like you'll figure out something that will work well...
    :)

    The other alternative is to plan on not going to VT this year and just
    do the other parts of the trip. We'd miss the maple creemees
    but........

    You'd also miss the fun of the trip with the rest of the team.... but,
    on the other hand, you don't want to overdo things either....

    Yes, we'll miss the fun parts but I want to make sure the knee is in
    good shape before doing a trip like that again. It's a lot of work
    packed into a short time--yes, there are the fun times but the intensity
    might be a bit too much for this year. I'll have to give the broccoli
    salad recipe to someone who is going tho. (G)


    Are there clinical tests with it that Steve might be able to
    get NB>>> into...? That's a way of having new/experimental
    treatments
    covered...
    He went with an initial injection of his own platelets, said it
    seems to be working as well as the cortisone. Time will tell if
    he RH>> will need or go with another round.
    Did insurance help pay for it...? Seems as though it's
    working... NB>> and sounds as though it should be safer than the cortisone shots...

    It was an out of pocket cost as insurance still considers it as an experimental treatment. It's injecting your own blood platelets back
    into your body so there shouldn't be a rejection issue. I guess it's something that will take some time to see how effective it is.

    I guess so... Hopefully not too terribly expensive...?

    Not too bad; we were able to cover it without any problem. It appears to
    be working; I haven't seen him wearing the thumb brace as much as he was
    before the treatment.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to RUTH HAFFLY on Monday, March 18, 2019 17:55:00
    Quoting Ruth Haffly to Nancy Backus on 03-11-19 16:53 <=-

    And all done to order so it stays as fresh as possible.
    But of course... :)
    So much better than stuff that's sat around too long.
    Exactly... :)
    The old Mark Twain quote about guests and fish both stinking
    after 3 days may be appropriate?
    Some places, probably... At least not so much Wegmans (they
    don't let theirs sit that long) and definitely not Fu.... :)

    Both Fu and Wegman's know how to treat fish properly.

    Yup. :)

    The other alternative is to plan on not going to VT this year
    and just do the other parts of the trip. We'd miss the maple
    creemees but........
    You'd also miss the fun of the trip with the rest of the team...
    but, on the other hand, you don't want to overdo things either...

    Yes, we'll miss the fun parts but I want to make sure the knee is in
    good shape before doing a trip like that again. It's a lot of work
    packed into a short time--yes, there are the fun times but the
    intensity might be a bit too much for this year. I'll have to give the broccoli salad recipe to someone who is going tho. (G)

    Can't have them missing their broccoli salad, after all... :) But yes,
    I was also considering how much work the actual week was, even beyond
    the making the meals.... better to spend your energy in completing the
    healing, rather than giving that short shrift... :)

    Are there clinical tests with it that Steve might be able to
    get into...? That's a way of having new/experimental
    treatments covered...
    He went with an initial injection of his own platelets, said it
    seems to be working as well as the cortisone. Time will tell if
    he will need or go with another round.
    Did insurance help pay for it...? Seems as though it's
    working... and sounds as though it should be safer than the
    cortisone shots...
    It was an out of pocket cost as insurance still considers it as
    an experimental treatment. It's injecting your own blood
    platelets back into your body so there shouldn't be a rejection
    issue. I guess it's something that will take some time to see
    how effective it is.
    I guess so... Hopefully not too terribly expensive...?

    Not too bad; we were able to cover it without any problem. It appears
    to be working; I haven't seen him wearing the thumb brace as much as he was before the treatment.

    That sounds promising.... Is the theory that it shouldn't wear off like
    the cortisone shots but actually promote healing...?

    ttyl neb

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to NANCY BACKUS on Tuesday, March 19, 2019 17:36:59
    Hi Nancy,

    The old Mark Twain quote about guests and fish both stinking
    after 3 days may be appropriate?
    Some places, probably... At least not so much Wegmans (they
    don't let theirs sit that long) and definitely not Fu.... :)

    Both Fu and Wegman's know how to treat fish properly.

    Yup. :)

    I've been in some places that reek of fish--not my idea of how fish
    should be kept.


    The other alternative is to plan on not going to VT this year
    and just do the other parts of the trip. We'd miss the maple
    creemees but........
    You'd also miss the fun of the trip with the rest of the team...
    but, on the other hand, you don't want to overdo things
    either...

    Yes, we'll miss the fun parts but I want to make sure the knee is in
    good shape before doing a trip like that again. It's a lot of work
    packed into a short time--yes, there are the fun times but the
    intensity might be a bit too much for this year. I'll have to give the broccoli salad recipe to someone who is going tho. (G)

    Can't have them missing their broccoli salad, after all... :) But
    yes, I was also considering how much work the actual week was, even
    beyond
    the making the meals.... better to spend your energy in completing the healing, rather than giving that short shrift... :)

    VT is officially off for this year, will probably plan a trip to western
    NY, Creation Museum, PA, NJ tho. Just have to figure out what dates will
    work best.

    Are there clinical tests with it that Steve might be able to
    get into...? That's a way of having new/experimental
    treatments covered...
    He went with an initial injection of his own platelets, said it
    seems to be working as well as the cortisone. Time will tell if
    he will need or go with another round.
    Did insurance help pay for it...? Seems as though it's
    working... and sounds as though it should be safer than the
    cortisone shots...
    It was an out of pocket cost as insurance still considers it as
    an experimental treatment. It's injecting your own blood
    platelets back into your body so there shouldn't be a rejection
    issue. I guess it's something that will take some time to see
    how effective it is.
    I guess so... Hopefully not too terribly expensive...?

    Not too bad; we were able to cover it without any problem. It appears
    to be working; I haven't seen him wearing the thumb brace as much as he was before the treatment.

    That sounds promising.... Is the theory that it shouldn't wear off
    like the cortisone shots but actually promote healing...?

    If I understand correctly, that's the thought.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to RUTH HAFFLY on Monday, March 25, 2019 14:23:00
    Quoting Ruth Haffly to Nancy Backus on 03-19-19 16:36 <=-

    The old Mark Twain quote about guests and fish both stinking
    after 3 days may be appropriate?
    Some places, probably... At least not so much Wegmans (they
    don't let theirs sit that long) and definitely not Fu.... :)
    Both Fu and Wegman's know how to treat fish properly.
    Yup. :)

    I've been in some places that reek of fish--not my idea of how fish
    should be kept.

    Nor mine either... Once, years ago, we noticed a new sushi restaurant
    opened in a mall we were often in, and decided to give it a try... We
    walked into the shop.... were met with a reek of fish, and walked right
    back out... almost just one fluid motion.... (G) I don't think that
    place lasted very long....

    The other alternative is to plan on not going to VT this year
    and just do the other parts of the trip. We'd miss the maple
    creemees but........
    You'd also miss the fun of the trip with the rest of the team...
    but, on the other hand, you don't want to overdo things
    either...
    Yes, we'll miss the fun parts but I want to make sure the knee
    is in good shape before doing a trip like that again. It's a lot
    of work packed into a short time--yes, there are the fun times
    but the intensity might be a bit too much for this year. I'll
    have to give the broccoli salad recipe to someone who is going
    tho. (G)
    Can't have them missing their broccoli salad, after all... :)
    But yes, I was also considering how much work the actual week
    was, even beyond the making the meals.... better to spend your
    energy in completing the healing, rather than giving that short
    shrift... :)

    VT is officially off for this year, will probably plan a trip to
    western NY, Creation Museum, PA, NJ tho. Just have to figure out what dates will work best.

    Eventually you'll have it all figured out.... :)

    He went with an initial injection of his own platelets, said it
    seems to be working as well as the cortisone. Time will tell if
    he will need or go with another round.
    Did insurance help pay for it...? Seems as though it's
    working... and sounds as though it should be safer than the
    cortisone shots...
    It was an out of pocket cost as insurance still considers it as
    an experimental treatment. It's injecting your own blood
    platelets back into your body so there shouldn't be a rejection
    issue. I guess it's something that will take some time to see
    how effective it is.
    I guess so... Hopefully not too terribly expensive...?
    Not too bad; we were able to cover it without any problem. It
    appears to be working; I haven't seen him wearing the thumb brace
    as much as he was before the treatment.
    That sounds promising.... Is the theory that it shouldn't wear
    off like the cortisone shots but actually promote healing...?

    If I understand correctly, that's the thought.

    Hope it works out very well.... :)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to NANCY BACKUS on Tuesday, March 26, 2019 14:37:43
    Hi Nancy,

    Some places, probably... At least not so much Wegmans (they
    don't let theirs sit that long) and definitely not Fu.... :)
    Both Fu and Wegman's know how to treat fish properly.
    Yup. :)

    I've been in some places that reek of fish--not my idea of how fish
    should be kept.

    Nor mine either... Once, years ago, we noticed a new sushi restaurant opened in a mall we were often in, and decided to give it a try... We walked into the shop.... were met with a reek of fish, and walked
    right back out... almost just one fluid motion.... (G) I don't think
    that
    place lasted very long....

    Doesn't sound like a place that needs to open up in the first place.
    Makes you wonder how it passed the health inspection, even the initial
    one.

    Can't have them missing their broccoli salad, after all... :)
    But yes, I was also considering how much work the actual week
    was, even beyond the making the meals.... better to spend your
    energy in completing the healing, rather than giving that short
    shrift... :)

    VT is officially off for this year, will probably plan a trip to
    western NY, Creation Museum, PA, NJ tho. Just have to figure out what dates will work best.

    Eventually you'll have it all figured out.... :)

    Yes, and the lady that was my sous chef for a couple of years is going
    back this year. She wants to do a planning session with us, figure out
    what will work best, given their situation, for meals. They will only
    have the one vehicle for the whole team so won't be able to split off
    and start the meal as we've done.

    an experimental treatment. It's injecting your own blood
    platelets back into your body so there shouldn't be a rejection
    issue. I guess it's something that will take some time to see
    how effective it is.
    I guess so... Hopefully not too terribly expensive...?
    Not too bad; we were able to cover it without any problem. It
    appears to be working; I haven't seen him wearing the thumb
    brace RH>> as much as he was before the treatment.
    That sounds promising.... Is the theory that it shouldn't wear
    off like the cortisone shots but actually promote healing...?

    If I understand correctly, that's the thought.

    Hope it works out very well.... :)

    We're hoping so as from what Steve has said, neither of the surgical
    fixes is a sure fire thing either.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to RUTH HAFFLY on Saturday, March 30, 2019 21:20:00
    Quoting Ruth Haffly to Nancy Backus on 03-26-19 13:37 <=-

    I've been in some places that reek of fish--not my idea of how
    fish should be kept.
    Nor mine either... Once, years ago, we noticed a new sushi
    restaurant opened in a mall we were often in, and decided to
    give it a try... We walked into the shop.... were met with a
    reek of fish, and walked right back out... almost just one
    fluid motion... (G) I don't think that place lasted very long...

    Doesn't sound like a place that needs to open up in the first place.
    Makes you wonder how it passed the health inspection, even the initial one.

    Indeed.... :)

    Can't have them missing their broccoli salad, after all... :)
    But yes, I was also considering how much work the actual week
    was, even beyond the making the meals.... better to spend your
    energy in completing the healing, rather than giving that short
    shrift... :)
    VT is officially off for this year, will probably plan a trip to
    western NY, Creation Museum, PA, NJ tho. Just have to figure out
    what dates will work best.
    Eventually you'll have it all figured out.... :)

    Yes, and the lady that was my sous chef for a couple of years is going back this year. She wants to do a planning session with us, figure out what will work best, given their situation, for meals. They will only
    have the one vehicle for the whole team so won't be able to split off
    and start the meal as we've done.

    That sounds like a very good plan... she can benefit from your
    experience, and tailor it to the needs of the group that will be there
    this year.... :)

    an experimental treatment. It's injecting your own blood
    platelets back into your body so there shouldn't be a rejection
    issue. I guess it's something that will take some time to see
    how effective it is.
    I guess so... Hopefully not too terribly expensive...?
    Not too bad; we were able to cover it without any problem. It
    appears to be working; I haven't seen him wearing the thumb
    brace as much as he was before the treatment.
    That sounds promising.... Is the theory that it shouldn't wear
    off like the cortisone shots but actually promote healing...?
    If I understand correctly, that's the thought.
    Hope it works out very well.... :)

    We're hoping so as from what Steve has said, neither of the surgical
    fixes is a sure fire thing either.

    Nothing is a totally sure thing anyway... but it is nice when something
    works well enough to make things a lot better.... :)

    ttyl neb

    ... Happiness is a place between too little and too much.

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to NANCY BACKUS on Monday, April 01, 2019 13:55:35
    Hi Nancy,

    I've been in some places that reek of fish--not my idea of how
    fish should be kept.
    Nor mine either... Once, years ago, we noticed a new sushi
    restaurant opened in a mall we were often in, and decided to
    give it a try... We walked into the shop.... were met with a
    reek of fish, and walked right back out... almost just one
    fluid motion... (G) I don't think that place lasted very long...

    Doesn't sound like a place that needs to open up in the first place.
    Makes you wonder how it passed the health inspection, even the initial one.

    Indeed.... :)

    Smell of cleaning agents may have temporarily covered up the fish smell?

    Can't have them missing their broccoli salad, after all... :)
    But yes, I was also considering how much work the actual week
    was, even beyond the making the meals.... better to spend your
    energy in completing the healing, rather than giving that short
    shrift... :)
    VT is officially off for this year, will probably plan a trip to
    western NY, Creation Museum, PA, NJ tho. Just have to figure out
    what dates will work best.
    Eventually you'll have it all figured out.... :)

    Yes, and the lady that was my sous chef for a couple of years is going back this year. She wants to do a planning session with us, figure out what will work best, given their situation, for meals. They will only
    have the one vehicle for the whole team so won't be able to split off
    and start the meal as we've done.

    That sounds like a very good plan... she can benefit from your
    experience, and tailor it to the needs of the group that will be there this year.... :)

    That's the plan.

    an experimental treatment. It's injecting your own blood
    platelets back into your body so there shouldn't be a rejection
    issue. I guess it's something that will take some time to see
    how effective it is.
    I guess so... Hopefully not too terribly expensive...?
    Not too bad; we were able to cover it without any problem. It
    appears to be working; I haven't seen him wearing the thumb
    brace as much as he was before the treatment.
    That sounds promising.... Is the theory that it shouldn't wear
    off like the cortisone shots but actually promote healing...?
    If I understand correctly, that's the thought.
    Hope it works out very well.... :)

    We're hoping so as from what Steve has said, neither of the surgical
    fixes is a sure fire thing either.

    Nothing is a totally sure thing anyway... but it is nice when
    something works well enough to make things a lot better.... :)

    Yes--it's allowed him to do the cooking for both of us while I've been
    limited. I'm doing more of the put stuff into the dishwasher/unload the dishwasher clean up, some hand wash dishes now. He's doing hand wash
    dishes also, depending on what has been done for the meal.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to RUTH HAFFLY on Wednesday, April 03, 2019 18:13:00
    Quoting Ruth Haffly to Nancy Backus on 04-01-19 12:55 <=-

    I've been in some places that reek of fish--not my idea of how
    fish should be kept.
    Nor mine either... Once, years ago, we noticed a new sushi
    restaurant opened in a mall we were often in, and decided to
    give it a try... We walked into the shop.... were met with a
    reek of fish, and walked right back out... almost just one
    fluid motion... (G) I don't think that place lasted very long...
    Doesn't sound like a place that needs to open up in the first
    place. Makes you wonder how it passed the health inspection, even
    the initial one.
    Indeed.... :)

    Smell of cleaning agents may have temporarily covered up the fish
    smell?

    Or possibly hadn't started to stock the fish yet when the original
    inspection was done...

    Can't have them missing their broccoli salad, after all... :)
    But yes, I was also considering how much work the actual week
    was, even beyond the making the meals.... better to spend your
    energy in completing the healing, rather than giving that short
    shrift... :)
    VT is officially off for this year, will probably plan a trip to
    western NY, Creation Museum, PA, NJ tho. Just have to figure out
    what dates will work best.
    Eventually you'll have it all figured out.... :)
    Yes, and the lady that was my sous chef for a couple of years is
    going back this year. She wants to do a planning session with us,
    figure out what will work best, given their situation, for meals.
    They will only have the one vehicle for the whole team so won't be
    able to split off and start the meal as we've done.
    That sounds like a very good plan... she can benefit from your
    experience, and tailor it to the needs of the group that will be
    there this year.... :)

    That's the plan.

    And having talked with you about it should give her more confidence in
    what she's doing... :)

    an experimental treatment. It's injecting your own blood
    platelets back into your body so there shouldn't be a rejection
    issue. I guess it's something that will take some time to see
    how effective it is.
    I guess so... Hopefully not too terribly expensive...?
    Not too bad; we were able to cover it without any problem. It
    appears to be working; I haven't seen him wearing the thumb
    brace as much as he was before the treatment.
    That sounds promising.... Is the theory that it shouldn't wear
    off like the cortisone shots but actually promote healing...?
    If I understand correctly, that's the thought.
    Hope it works out very well.... :)
    We're hoping so as from what Steve has said, neither of the
    surgical fixes is a sure fire thing either.
    Nothing is a totally sure thing anyway... but it is nice when
    something works well enough to make things a lot better.... :)

    Yes--it's allowed him to do the cooking for both of us while I've been limited. I'm doing more of the put stuff into the dishwasher/unload
    the dishwasher clean up, some hand wash dishes now. He's doing hand
    wash dishes also, depending on what has been done for the meal.

    That's working out well, then... :)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to NANCY BACKUS on Friday, April 05, 2019 21:01:51
    Hi Nancy,

    place. Makes you wonder how it passed the health inspection,
    even RH>> the initial one.
    Indeed.... :)

    Smell of cleaning agents may have temporarily covered up the fish
    smell?

    Or possibly hadn't started to stock the fish yet when the original inspection was done...

    Either way, it's not the place I'd want to go to.

    VT is officially off for this year, will probably plan a trip
    to RH>>> western NY, Creation Museum, PA, NJ tho. Just have to figure
    out RH>>> what dates will work best.
    Eventually you'll have it all figured out.... :)
    Yes, and the lady that was my sous chef for a couple of years is
    going back this year. She wants to do a planning session with
    us, RH>> figure out what will work best, given their situation, for meals. RH>> They will only have the one vehicle for the whole team so won't be RH>> able to split off and start the meal as we've done.
    That sounds like a very good plan... she can benefit from your
    experience, and tailor it to the needs of the group that will be
    there this year.... :)

    That's the plan.

    And having talked with you about it should give her more confidence in what she's doing... :)

    Yes, the harder part is that there will be only the one vehicle so she
    can't come back to start supper while the others are doing community
    service projects. She will have to do more fast and easy meals.


    Hope it works out very well.... :)
    We're hoping so as from what Steve has said, neither of the
    surgical fixes is a sure fire thing either.
    Nothing is a totally sure thing anyway... but it is nice when
    something works well enough to make things a lot better.... :)

    Yes--it's allowed him to do the cooking for both of us while I've been limited. I'm doing more of the put stuff into the dishwasher/unload
    the dishwasher clean up, some hand wash dishes now. He's doing hand
    wash dishes also, depending on what has been done for the meal.

    That's working out well, then... :)

    For now, yes. He's usually good about cleaning up after making a mess in
    the kitchen. Sometimes, while he's been working on whatever he's making,
    I'll come in and start the clean up of what's been used. Makes it easier
    on him, keeps the kitchen neater and sometimes makes just that extra bit
    of space available that was occupied by a cannister, dirty dishes or
    whatever.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to RUTH HAFFLY on Monday, April 08, 2019 20:17:00
    Quoting Ruth Haffly to Nancy Backus on 04-05-19 20:01 <=-

    place. Makes you wonder how it passed the health inspection,
    even the initial one.
    Indeed.... :)
    Smell of cleaning agents may have temporarily covered up the
    fish smell?
    Or possibly hadn't started to stock the fish yet when the original
    inspection was done...

    Either way, it's not the place I'd want to go to.

    And we've not been back... I think the next time we even thought to
    look, while in that parking lot for something else, that place was
    closed and gone.... it's been years now... :)

    Yes, and the lady that was my sous chef for a couple of years is
    going back this year. She wants to do a planning session with
    us, figure out what will work best, given their situation, for
    meals. They will only have the one vehicle for the whole team so
    won't be able to split off and start the meal as we've done.
    That sounds like a very good plan... she can benefit from your
    experience, and tailor it to the needs of the group that will be
    there this year.... :)
    That's the plan.
    And having talked with you about it should give her more
    confidence in what she's doing... :)

    Yes, the harder part is that there will be only the one vehicle so she can't come back to start supper while the others are doing community service projects. She will have to do more fast and easy meals.

    Fast and easy isn't necessarily a bad thing... :)

    Hope it works out very well.... :)
    We're hoping so as from what Steve has said, neither of the
    surgical fixes is a sure fire thing either.
    Nothing is a totally sure thing anyway... but it is nice when
    something works well enough to make things a lot better.... :)
    Yes--it's allowed him to do the cooking for both of us while
    I've been limited. I'm doing more of the put stuff into the
    dishwasher/unload the dishwasher clean up, some hand wash dishes
    now. He's doing hand wash dishes also, depending on what has
    been done for the meal.
    That's working out well, then... :)

    For now, yes. He's usually good about cleaning up after making a mess
    in the kitchen. Sometimes, while he's been working on whatever he's making, I'll come in and start the clean up of what's been used. Makes
    it easier on him, keeps the kitchen neater and sometimes makes just
    that extra bit of space available that was occupied by a cannister,
    dirty dishes or whatever.

    And gives you something useful to be doing.... :)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to NANCY BACKUS on Tuesday, April 09, 2019 16:42:50
    Hi Nancy,

    Smell of cleaning agents may have temporarily covered up the
    fish smell?
    Or possibly hadn't started to stock the fish yet when the
    original NB>> inspection was done...

    Either way, it's not the place I'd want to go to.

    And we've not been back... I think the next time we even thought to
    look, while in that parking lot for something else, that place was
    closed and gone.... it's been years now... :)

    And nobody misses it. (G)


    Yes, and the lady that was my sous chef for a couple of years
    is RH>>> going back this year. She wants to do a planning session
    with
    us, figure out what will work best, given their situation, for
    meals. They will only have the one vehicle for the whole team
    so RH>>> won't be able to split off and start the meal as we've done.
    That sounds like a very good plan... she can benefit from your
    experience, and tailor it to the needs of the group that will
    be NB>>> there this year.... :)
    That's the plan.
    And having talked with you about it should give her more
    confidence in what she's doing... :)

    Yes, the harder part is that there will be only the one vehicle so she can't come back to start supper while the others are doing community service projects. She will have to do more fast and easy meals.

    Fast and easy isn't necessarily a bad thing... :)

    No, just a bit more stressful to have things done at a decent time.


    Hope it works out very well.... :)
    We're hoping so as from what Steve has said, neither of the
    surgical fixes is a sure fire thing either.
    Nothing is a totally sure thing anyway... but it is nice when
    something works well enough to make things a lot better.... :)
    Yes--it's allowed him to do the cooking for both of us while
    I've been limited. I'm doing more of the put stuff into the
    dishwasher/unload the dishwasher clean up, some hand wash dishes
    now. He's doing hand wash dishes also, depending on what has
    been done for the meal.
    That's working out well, then... :)

    For now, yes. He's usually good about cleaning up after making a mess
    in the kitchen. Sometimes, while he's been working on whatever he's making, I'll come in and start the clean up of what's been used. Makes
    it easier on him, keeps the kitchen neater and sometimes makes just
    that extra bit of space available that was occupied by a cannister,
    dirty dishes or whatever.

    And gives you something useful to be doing.... :)

    Yes, because it gives him some more working space and helps his clean up
    go faster. Most of the time he will put things back to where I like to
    keep them but occaisionally I'll have to hunt something down if he's put
    it away. Much easier to find things if I put them where I know I like to
    keep them. (G)

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to RUTH HAFFLY on Monday, April 15, 2019 21:05:00
    Quoting Ruth Haffly to Nancy Backus on 04-09-19 16:42 <=-

    Smell of cleaning agents may have temporarily covered up the
    fish smell?
    Or possibly hadn't started to stock the fish yet when the
    original inspection was done...
    Either way, it's not the place I'd want to go to.
    And we've not been back... I think the next time we even thought
    to look, while in that parking lot for something else, that
    place was closed and gone.... it's been years now... :)

    And nobody misses it. (G)

    Precisely... :)

    That sounds like a very good plan... she can benefit from your
    experience, and tailor it to the needs of the group that will
    be there this year.... :)
    That's the plan.
    And having talked with you about it should give her more
    confidence in what she's doing... :)
    Yes, the harder part is that there will be only the one vehicle
    so she can't come back to start supper while the others are doing
    community service projects. She will have to do more fast and
    easy meals.
    Fast and easy isn't necessarily a bad thing... :)

    No, just a bit more stressful to have things done at a decent time.

    Maybe others will jump in and give her lots of help to get it on the
    table in good time... :)

    Hope it works out very well.... :)
    We're hoping so as from what Steve has said, neither of the
    surgical fixes is a sure fire thing either.
    Nothing is a totally sure thing anyway... but it is nice when
    something works well enough to make things a lot better.... :)
    Yes--it's allowed him to do the cooking for both of us while
    I've been limited. I'm doing more of the put stuff into the
    dishwasher/unload the dishwasher clean up, some hand wash dishes
    now. He's doing hand wash dishes also, depending on what has
    been done for the meal.
    That's working out well, then... :)
    For now, yes. He's usually good about cleaning up after making a
    mess in the kitchen. Sometimes, while he's been working on
    whatever he's making, I'll come in and start the clean up of
    what's been used. Makes it easier on him, keeps the kitchen neater
    and sometimes makes just that extra bit of space available that
    was occupied by a cannister, dirty dishes or whatever.
    And gives you something useful to be doing.... :)

    Yes, because it gives him some more working space and helps his clean
    up go faster. Most of the time he will put things back to where I like
    to keep them but occaisionally I'll have to hunt something down if he's put it away. Much easier to find things if I put them where I know I
    like to keep them. (G)

    Well, of course... ;)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to NANCY BACKUS on Tuesday, April 16, 2019 16:21:17
    Hi Nancy,

    fish smell?
    Or possibly hadn't started to stock the fish yet when the
    original inspection was done...
    Either way, it's not the place I'd want to go to.
    And we've not been back... I think the next time we even thought
    to look, while in that parking lot for something else, that
    place was closed and gone.... it's been years now... :)

    And nobody misses it. (G)

    Precisely... :)

    The area has enough other choices of places to eat that the loss of one
    isn't that big a drop in the bucket.

    Yes, the harder part is that there will be only the one vehicle
    so she can't come back to start supper while the others are
    doing RH>> community service projects. She will have to do more fast
    and
    easy meals.
    Fast and easy isn't necessarily a bad thing... :)

    No, just a bit more stressful to have things done at a decent time.

    Maybe others will jump in and give her lots of help to get it on the
    table in good time... :)

    Hopefully so.

    what's been used. Makes it easier on him, keeps the kitchen
    neater RH>> and sometimes makes just that extra bit of space
    available that
    was occupied by a cannister, dirty dishes or whatever.
    And gives you something useful to be doing.... :)

    Yes, because it gives him some more working space and helps his clean
    up go faster. Most of the time he will put things back to where I like
    to keep them but occaisionally I'll have to hunt something down if he's put it away. Much easier to find things if I put them where I know I
    like to keep them. (G)

    Well, of course... ;)

    He's pretty good about that, overall. Guess he knows I like some order
    to the kitchen. (G)

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to RUTH HAFFLY on Saturday, April 20, 2019 21:00:00
    Quoting Ruth Haffly to Nancy Backus on 04-16-19 16:21 <=-

    Yes, the harder part is that there will be only the one vehicle
    so she can't come back to start supper while the others are
    doing community service projects. She will have to do more fast
    and easy meals.
    Fast and easy isn't necessarily a bad thing... :)
    No, just a bit more stressful to have things done at a decent time.
    Maybe others will jump in and give her lots of help to get it on the
    table in good time... :)

    Hopefully so.

    And you'll likely be back on the job in a couple of years.... :)

    what's been used. Makes it easier on him, keeps the kitchen
    neater and sometimes makes just that extra bit of space
    available that was occupied by a cannister, dirty dishes or
    whatever.
    And gives you something useful to be doing.... :)
    Yes, because it gives him some more working space and helps his
    clean up go faster. Most of the time he will put things back to
    where I like to keep them but occaisionally I'll have to hunt
    something down if he's put it away. Much easier to find things if
    I put them where I know I like to keep them. (G)
    Well, of course... ;)

    He's pretty good about that, overall. Guess he knows I like some order
    to the kitchen. (G)

    After all these years, one would hope that he'd learned that... ;)

    ttyl neb

    ... Eat Salmon ... the OTHER pink meat

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to NANCY BACKUS on Sunday, April 21, 2019 20:00:13
    Hi Nancy,

    so she can't come back to start supper while the others are
    doing community service projects. She will have to do more fast
    and easy meals.
    Fast and easy isn't necessarily a bad thing... :)
    No, just a bit more stressful to have things done at a decent
    time. NB>> Maybe others will jump in and give her lots of help to get
    it on the NB>> table in good time... :)

    Hopefully so.

    And you'll likely be back on the job in a couple of years.... :)

    After 2020--Steve wants to drive up to Alaska next summer. After that,
    we'll see how the bodies are holding up.

    what's been used. Makes it easier on him, keeps the kitchen
    neater and sometimes makes just that extra bit of space
    available that was occupied by a cannister, dirty dishes or
    whatever.
    And gives you something useful to be doing.... :)
    Yes, because it gives him some more working space and helps his
    clean up go faster. Most of the time he will put things back to
    where I like to keep them but occaisionally I'll have to hunt
    something down if he's put it away. Much easier to find things
    if RH>> I put them where I know I like to keep them. (G)
    Well, of course... ;)

    He's pretty good about that, overall. Guess he knows I like some order
    to the kitchen. (G)

    After all these years, one would hope that he'd learned that... ;)

    Some people never learn. I once tried (with her OK) to re arrainge my
    mom's kitchen cabinets so that she had a full set of the various dishes
    she needed on the lowest shelf. Next time we visited, they were back the
    way she'd had them before--and she was fussing about how hard it was to
    reach even the second shelf. After all the moves we've made, I try to
    arrainge for what's easiest to use/get to in each new kitchen.


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to RUTH HAFFLY on Saturday, April 27, 2019 16:42:00
    Quoting Ruth Haffly to Nancy Backus on 04-21-19 20:00 <=-

    so she can't come back to start supper while the others are
    doing community service projects. She will have to do more fast
    and easy meals.
    Fast and easy isn't necessarily a bad thing... :)
    No, just a bit more stressful to have things done at a decent
    time.
    Maybe others will jump in and give her lots of help to getit on
    the table in good time... :)
    Hopefully so.
    And you'll likely be back on the job in a couple of years.... :)

    After 2020--Steve wants to drive up to Alaska next summer. After that, we'll see how the bodies are holding up.

    Right... that's why I said a couple of years... ;)

    what's been used. Makes it easier on him, keeps the kitchen
    neater and sometimes makes just that extra bit of space
    available that was occupied by a cannister, dirty dishes or
    whatever.
    And gives you something useful to be doing.... :)
    Yes, because it gives him some more working space and helps his
    clean up go faster. Most of the time he will put things back to
    where I like to keep them but occaisionally I'll have to hunt
    something down if he's put it away. Much easier to find things
    if I put them where I know I like to keep them. (G)
    Well, of course... ;)
    He's pretty good about that, overall. Guess he knows I like some
    order to the kitchen. (G)
    After all these years, one would hope that he'd learned that... ;)

    Some people never learn. I once tried (with her OK) to re arrainge my mom's kitchen cabinets so that she had a full set of the various
    dishes she needed on the lowest shelf. Next time we visited, they were back the way she'd had them before--and she was fussing about how hard
    it was to reach even the second shelf.

    That makes a little sense... even though she gave the ok, she wasn't the
    one doing the rearranging, and so was easy enough to revert to what she
    was used to, even if it wasn't as convenient in the long run... And it
    was a one-time rearrangement....

    After all the moves we've made,
    I try to arrainge for what's easiest to use/get to in each new kitchen.

    You've had lots of moves to learn that lesson from... :) And Steve has
    been in on each new arrangement, so can have a sense of what makes sense
    to you... :)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to NANCY BACKUS on Sunday, April 28, 2019 19:26:40
    Hi Nancy,

    Maybe others will jump in and give her lots of help to getit on
    the table in good time... :)
    Hopefully so.
    And you'll likely be back on the job in a couple of years.... :)

    After 2020--Steve wants to drive up to Alaska next summer. After that, we'll see how the bodies are holding up.

    Right... that's why I said a couple of years... ;)

    Meanwhile, today was the initial meeting if interested for working VBS
    at our church. I went, and yes, signed up for crafts and registration.
    Signed Steve up for the technical support also. (G)

    if I put them where I know I like to keep them. (G)
    Well, of course... ;)
    He's pretty good about that, overall. Guess he knows I like some
    order to the kitchen. (G)
    After all these years, one would hope that he'd learned that...
    ;)

    Some people never learn. I once tried (with her OK) to re arrainge my mom's kitchen cabinets so that she had a full set of the various
    dishes she needed on the lowest shelf. Next time we visited, they were back the way she'd had them before--and she was fussing about how hard
    it was to reach even the second shelf.

    That makes a little sense... even though she gave the ok, she wasn't
    the one doing the rearranging, and so was easy enough to revert to
    what she was used to, even if it wasn't as convenient in the long
    run... And it
    was a one-time rearrangement....

    Besides that, the dementia was beginning to kick in but we didn't
    recognise it as such. Had we been there on a more regular basis, we
    probably would have picked up on it but, that's hindsight now.

    After all the moves we've made,
    I try to arrainge for what's easiest to use/get to in each new kitchen.

    You've had lots of moves to learn that lesson from... :) And Steve
    has been in on each new arrangement, so can have a sense of what makes sense to you... :)

    He basically lets me do what I want and will put up hangers, etc as I
    ask for them. But, he knows that I like to keep a certain order to
    things once I have it set to my liking and will try to not mess it up
    too much. Best thing I did in HI and GA was to make lists and tape them
    to the inside of the cabinet doors as to what was in each unit, on what
    shelf.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Michael Loo on Tuesday, April 30, 2019 01:23:06
    On 04-29-19 15:03, Michael Loo <=-
    spoke to Ruth Haffly about 308 picnics was overflow <=-

    Looks like, weather permitting, we'll have supper here on Thursday night
    and go out for prime rib on Friday. A possiblity, depending on what the general consensus/amount of leftover food, is that we could go to the Italian place on Sunday.

    Sounds good. One thing about leftovers is that we
    all like to be generaous and so make more than we
    ought, with the inevitable result.

    As we age, and appetites dwindle, leftovers and makeover meals become
    more and more a thing here. Last night we had spaghetti and meatballs
    for dinner. Had a bit of the pasta left and lots of sauce. So, the
    single large chicken breast that Gail had intended for her Kung Pao
    chicken became split and pounded and breaded to become chicken parm,
    with a side of pasta. BUT, neither of us finished our half of a breast,
    and so it has gone back into the frig to become a chicken sandwich later
    in the week.

    Here is a recipe that might be similar to those jalepeno popper fillings
    that you had at Sapphire a number of years ago.


    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

    Title: DRY POTATO CURRY
    Categories: Menu, Vegetarian, Indian, Boat, D/g
    Yield: 4 servings

    1 lb Potato; Red skins
    Salt to taste
    2 tb Vegetable oil
    1 ts Mustard seeds
    1 Onion; finely sliced
    2 Garlic cloves
    1 (1 inch) piece gingerroot;
    - fresh grated
    1 Green chile; seeded, chopped
    1 ts Ground turmeric
    1/2 ts Red (cayenne) pepper
    1 ts Ground cumin
    1/4 c Green pepper; strips
    - to garnish if desired

    Cut Potatoes into 3/4 inch chunks.

    Cook potatoes in boiling salted water 6 to 8 minutes, until just
    tender. Drain and set aside. Heat oil in a large saucepan, add
    mustard seeds and onions. Cook 5 minutes until onions are soft, but
    not brown. Stir in garlic and gingerroot; cook 1 minute more.

    Add cooked potatoes, chile, turmeric, cayenne and cumin. Stir well.
    Cover and cook 3 to 5 minutes, stirring occasionally, until potatoes
    are very tender and coated with spices. Serve hot, garnished with
    bell pepper strips.

    MMMMM


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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to RUTH HAFFLY on Thursday, May 02, 2019 14:41:00
    Quoting Ruth Haffly to Nancy Backus on 04-28-19 19:26 <=-

    Maybe others will jump in and give her lots of help to get
    it on the table in good time... :)
    Hopefully so.
    And you'll likely be back on the job in a couple of years.... :)
    After 2020--Steve wants to drive up to Alaska next summer. After
    that, we'll see how the bodies are holding up.
    Right... that's why I said a couple of years... ;)

    Meanwhile, today was the initial meeting if interested for working VBS
    at our church. I went, and yes, signed up for crafts and registration. Signed Steve up for the technical support also. (G)

    The local VBS should be within your capabilities this year still... and
    I know you both enjoy being a part of it... ;)

    if I put them where I know I like to keep them. (G)
    Well, of course... ;)
    He's pretty good about that, overall. Guess he knows I like
    some order to the kitchen. (G)
    After all these years, one would hope that he'd learned
    that... ;)
    Some people never learn. I once tried (with her OK) to rearrange
    my mom's kitchen cabinets so that she had a full set of the
    various dishes she needed on the lowest shelf. Next time we
    visited, they were back the way she'd had them before--and she
    was fussing about how hard it was to reach even the second shelf.
    That makes a little sense... even though she gave the ok, she
    wasn't the one doing the rearranging, and so was easy enough to
    revert to what she was used to, even if it wasn't as convenient
    in the long run... And it was a one-time rearrangement....

    Besides that, the dementia was beginning to kick in but we didn't recognise it as such. Had we been there on a more regular basis, we probably would have picked up on it but, that's hindsight now.

    It is hindsight now... and even had you been closer, you might not have
    picked up on it any faster... it tends to be gradual, like kids
    growing... one tends to see it more in chunks...

    After all the moves we've made, I try to arrainge for what's
    easiest to use/get to in each new kitchen.
    You've had lots of moves to learn that lesson from... :) And
    Steve has been in on each new arrangement, so can have a sense
    of what makes sense to you... :)

    He basically lets me do what I want and will put up hangers, etc as I
    ask for them. But, he knows that I like to keep a certain order to
    things once I have it set to my liking and will try to not mess it up
    too much. Best thing I did in HI and GA was to make lists and tape
    them to the inside of the cabinet doors as to what was in each unit, on what shelf.

    Aids to memory... :) What's logical to you isn't nexessarily logical
    to someone else... (G)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to NANCY BACKUS on Friday, May 03, 2019 16:06:25
    Hi Nancy,

    After
    that, we'll see how the bodies are holding up.
    Right... that's why I said a couple of years... ;)

    Meanwhile, today was the initial meeting if interested for working VBS
    at our church. I went, and yes, signed up for crafts and registration. Signed Steve up for the technical support also. (G)

    The local VBS should be within your capabilities this year still...
    and I know you both enjoy being a part of it... ;)

    I think now they half expect we will sign up for specific jobs. (G)
    Steve did refreshments a couple of times, as well as the sound because
    there's no over lap in the time scheduling. That's why I do registration besides the crafts.

    was fussing about how hard it was to reach even the second
    shelf. NB>> That makes a little sense... even though she gave the ok,
    she
    wasn't the one doing the rearranging, and so was easy enough to
    revert to what she was used to, even if it wasn't as convenient
    in the long run... And it was a one-time rearrangement....

    Besides that, the dementia was beginning to kick in but we didn't recognise it as such. Had we been there on a more regular basis, we probably would have picked up on it but, that's hindsight now.

    It is hindsight now... and even had you been closer, you might not
    have picked up on it any faster... it tends to be gradual, like kids growing... one tends to see it more in chunks...

    Yes, and we weren't really considering that at that point. It seemed to
    be more of just an occaisional slip of the memory at that point. The
    general anesthesia she had some years later, in addition to the many
    years of improperly controlled diabetes, really kicked it in.

    After all the moves we've made, I try to arrainge for what's
    easiest to use/get to in each new kitchen.
    You've had lots of moves to learn that lesson from... :) And
    Steve has been in on each new arrangement, so can have a sense
    of what makes sense to you... :)

    He basically lets me do what I want and will put up hangers, etc as I
    ask for them. But, he knows that I like to keep a certain order to
    things once I have it set to my liking and will try to not mess it up
    too much. Best thing I did in HI and GA was to make lists and tape
    them to the inside of the cabinet doors as to what was in each unit, on what shelf.

    Aids to memory... :) What's logical to you isn't nexessarily logical
    to someone else... (G)

    True, because it's been mostly my kitchen. Now it's more our kitchen.
    (G)


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to RUTH HAFFLY on Tuesday, May 07, 2019 22:06:00
    Quoting Ruth Haffly to Nancy Backus on 05-03-19 16:06 <=-

    After that, we'll see how the bodies are holding up.
    Right... that's why I said a couple of years... ;)
    Meanwhile, today was the initial meeting if interested for
    working VBS at our church. I went, and yes, signed up for crafts
    and registration. Signed Steve up for the technical support also. (G)
    The local VBS should be within your capabilities this year still...
    and I know you both enjoy being a part of it... ;)

    I think now they half expect we will sign up for specific jobs. (G)
    Steve did refreshments a couple of times, as well as the sound
    because there's no overlap in the time scheduling. That's why I do registration besides the crafts.

    You've both done it enough that they know now which jobs you'd likely
    do... ;) If you weren't able to help out some year, they'd probably
    have to scramble to get someone to cover.... ;)

    That makes a little sense... even though she gave the ok, she
    wasn't the one doing the rearranging, and so was easy enough to
    revert to what she was used to, even if it wasn't as convenient
    in the long run... And it was a one-time rearrangement....
    Besides that, the dementia was beginning to kick in but we didn't
    recognise it as such. Had we been there on a more regular basis,
    we probably would have picked up on it but, that's hindsight now.
    It is hindsight now... and even had you been closer, you might not
    have picked up on it any faster... it tends to be gradual, like kids
    growing... one tends to see it more in chunks...

    Yes, and we weren't really considering that at that point. It seemed
    to be more of just an occaisional slip of the memory at that point. The general anesthesia she had some years later, in addition to the many
    years of improperly controlled diabetes, really kicked it in.

    Those both do take a big toll...

    After all the moves we've made, I try to arrainge for what's
    easiest to use/get to in each new kitchen.
    You've had lots of moves to learn that lesson from... :) And
    Steve has been in on each new arrangement, so can have a sense
    of what makes sense to you... :)
    He basically lets me do what I want and will put up hangers, etc
    as I ask for them. But, he knows that I like to keep a certain
    order to things once I have it set to my liking and will try to
    not mess it up too much. Best thing I did in HI and GA was to
    make lists and tape them to the inside of the cabinet doors as
    to what was in each unit, on what shelf.
    Aids to memory... :) What's logical to you isn't nexessarily
    logical to someone else... (G)

    True, because it's been mostly my kitchen. Now it's more our kitchen.
    (G)

    Yup... as he does more and more cooking and baking in it... :)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to NANCY BACKUS on Thursday, May 09, 2019 14:30:48
    Hi Nancy,

    Meanwhile, today was the initial meeting if interested for
    working VBS at our church. I went, and yes, signed up for crafts
    and registration. Signed Steve up for the technical support
    also. (G) NB>> The local VBS should be within your capabilities this
    year still... NB>> and I know you both enjoy being a part of it...
    ;)

    I think now they half expect we will sign up for specific jobs. (G)
    Steve did refreshments a couple of times, as well as the sound
    because there's no overlap in the time scheduling. That's why I do registration besides the crafts.

    You've both done it enough that they know now which jobs you'd likely do... ;) If you weren't able to help out some year, they'd probably
    have to scramble to get someone to cover.... ;)

    Probably so, and now I've got to make sure all the craft stuff for VT is packed/ready to go on the van, along with instructions on how to do the projects. We're not going, but my craft ideas are. (G)


    That makes a little sense... even though she gave the ok, she
    wasn't the one doing the rearranging, and so was easy enough to
    revert to what she was used to, even if it wasn't as convenient
    in the long run... And it was a one-time rearrangement....
    Besides that, the dementia was beginning to kick in but we
    didn't RH>> recognise it as such. Had we been there on a more regular basis,
    we probably would have picked up on it but, that's hindsight
    now. NB>> It is hindsight now... and even had you been closer, you
    might not NB>> have picked up on it any faster... it tends to be
    gradual, like kids NB>> growing... one tends to see it more in
    chunks...

    Yes, and we weren't really considering that at that point. It seemed
    to be more of just an occaisional slip of the memory at that point. The general anesthesia she had some years later, in addition to the many
    years of improperly controlled diabetes, really kicked it in.

    Those both do take a big toll...

    Very much so. After she got out of the hospital/rehab with her hip, Dad wouldn't let her do any more cooking, tho it was hard to keep her out of
    the kitchen. About 9 months later she went into the nursing home.


    After all the moves we've made, I try to arrainge for what's
    easiest to use/get to in each new kitchen.
    You've had lots of moves to learn that lesson from... :) And
    Steve has been in on each new arrangement, so can have a sense
    of what makes sense to you... :)
    He basically lets me do what I want and will put up hangers, etc
    as I ask for them. But, he knows that I like to keep a certain
    order to things once I have it set to my liking and will try to
    not mess it up too much. Best thing I did in HI and GA was to
    make lists and tape them to the inside of the cabinet doors as
    to what was in each unit, on what shelf.
    Aids to memory... :) What's logical to you isn't nexessarily
    logical to someone else... (G)

    True, because it's been mostly my kitchen. Now it's more our kitchen.
    (G)

    Yup... as he does more and more cooking and baking in it... :)

    But I still set it up basically the way I wanted. He tinkers with it a
    bit, just got a new espresso maker so re-arrainged a few things to fit
    it in.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to RUTH HAFFLY on Tuesday, May 14, 2019 16:47:00
    Quoting Ruth Haffly to Nancy Backus on 05-09-19 14:30 <=-

    The local VBS should be within your capabilities this year
    still... and I know you both enjoy being a part of it... ;)
    I think now they half expect we will sign up for specific
    jobs. (G) Steve did refreshments a couple of times, as well as
    the sound because there's no overlap in the time scheduling.
    That's why I do registration besides the crafts.
    You've both done it enough that they know now which jobs you'd
    likely do... ;) If you weren't able to help out some year,
    they'd probably have to scramble to get someone to cover.... ;)

    Probably so, and now I've got to make sure all the craft stuff for VT
    is packed/ready to go on the van, along with instructions on how to do
    the projects. We're not going, but my craft ideas are. (G)

    And you'll get to fine tune it during your VBS... Just have to probably
    have more detailed instructions for someone else to do it than you'd
    need for yourself... :)

    It is hindsight now... and even had you been closer, you
    might not have picked up on it any faster... it tends to be
    gradual, like kids growing... one tends to see it more in
    chunks...
    Yes, and we weren't really considering that at that point. It
    seemed to be more of just an occaisional slip of the memory at
    that point. The general anesthesia she had some years later, in
    addition to the many years of improperly controlled diabetes,
    really kicked it in.
    Those both do take a big toll...

    Very much so. After she got out of the hospital/rehab with her hip,
    Dad wouldn't let her do any more cooking, tho it was hard to keep her
    out of the kitchen. About 9 months later she went into the nursing
    home.

    She "knew" that her place was in the kitchen, despite being told
    otherwise....

    After all the moves we've made, I try to arrainge for what's
    easiest to use/get to in each new kitchen.
    You've had lots of moves to learn that lesson from... :) And
    Steve has been in on each new arrangement, so can have a sense
    of what makes sense to you... :)
    He basically lets me do what I want and will put up hangers, etc
    as I ask for them. But, he knows that I like to keep a certain
    order to things once I have it set to my liking and will try to
    not mess it up too much. Best thing I did in HI and GA was to
    make lists and tape them to the inside of the cabinet doors as
    to what was in each unit, on what shelf.
    Aids to memory... :) What's logical to you isn't necessarily
    logical to someone else... (G)
    True, because it's been mostly my kitchen. Now it's more our
    kitchen. (G)
    Yup... as he does more and more cooking and baking in it... :)

    But I still set it up basically the way I wanted. He tinkers with it a bit, just got a new espresso maker so re-arrainged a few things to fit
    it in.

    Some things can be negotiated... (G)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to NANCY BACKUS on Wednesday, May 15, 2019 22:24:57
    Hi Nancy,

    the sound because there's no overlap in the time scheduling.
    That's why I do registration besides the crafts.
    You've both done it enough that they know now which jobs you'd
    likely do... ;) If you weren't able to help out some year,
    they'd probably have to scramble to get someone to cover.... ;)

    Probably so, and now I've got to make sure all the craft stuff for VT
    is packed/ready to go on the van, along with instructions on how to do
    the projects. We're not going, but my craft ideas are. (G)

    And you'll get to fine tune it during your VBS... Just have to
    probably have more detailed instructions for someone else to do it
    than you'd
    need for yourself... :)

    Probably so, just have to come up with some ideas now. I'll be reading
    and re-reading the lessons several times in the next week or so to get
    ideas, then start shopping for supplies.


    It is hindsight now... and even had you been closer, you
    might not have picked up on it any faster... it tends to be
    gradual, like kids growing... one tends to see it more in
    chunks...
    Yes, and we weren't really considering that at that point. It
    seemed to be more of just an occaisional slip of the memory at
    that point. The general anesthesia she had some years later, in
    addition to the many years of improperly controlled diabetes,
    really kicked it in.
    Those both do take a big toll...

    Very much so. After she got out of the hospital/rehab with her hip,
    Dad wouldn't let her do any more cooking, tho it was hard to keep her
    out of the kitchen. About 9 months later she went into the nursing
    home.

    She "knew" that her place was in the kitchen, despite being told otherwise....

    Very much so. We were up to visit during that time. One night Steve and
    Dad went out to get supper; I had quite a time convincing Mom that
    supper was coming and she didn't have to do anything. Finally just let
    her set the table which kept her occupied for a few minutes, anyway.

    to what was in each unit, on what shelf.
    Aids to memory... :) What's logical to you isn't necessarily
    logical to someone else... (G)
    True, because it's been mostly my kitchen. Now it's more our
    kitchen. (G)
    Yup... as he does more and more cooking and baking in it... :)

    But I still set it up basically the way I wanted. He tinkers with it a bit, just got a new espresso maker so re-arrainged a few things to fit
    it in.

    Some things can be negotiated... (G)

    Yes, and he likes his coffee so...............


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to RUTH HAFFLY on Monday, May 20, 2019 21:21:00
    Quoting Ruth Haffly to Nancy Backus on 05-15-19 22:24 <=-

    the sound because there's no overlap in the time scheduling.
    That's why I do registration besides the crafts.
    You've both done it enough that they know now which jobs you'd
    likely do... ;) If you weren't able to help out some year,
    they'd probably have to scramble to get someone to cover.... ;)
    Probably so, and now I've got to make sure all the craft stuff for
    VT is packed/ready to go on the van, along with instructions on how
    to do the projects. We're not going, but my craft ideas are. (G)
    And you'll get to fine tune it during your VBS... Just have to
    probably have more detailed instructions for someone else to do it
    than you'd need for yourself... :)
    Probably so, just have to come up with some ideas now. I'll be reading
    and re-reading the lessons several times in the next week or so to get ideas, then start shopping for supplies.

    What's the theme this year...?

    It is hindsight now... and even had you been closer, you
    might not have picked up on it any faster... it tends to be
    gradual, like kids growing... one tends to see it more in
    chunks...
    Yes, and we weren't really considering that at that point. It
    seemed to be more of just an occaisional slip of the memory at
    that point. The general anesthesia she had some years later, in
    addition to the many years of improperly controlled diabetes,
    really kicked it in.
    Those both do take a big toll...
    Very much so. After she got out of the hospital/rehab with her
    hip, Dad wouldn't let her do any more cooking, tho it was hard to
    keep her out of the kitchen. About 9 months later she went into
    the nursing home.
    She "knew" that her place was in the kitchen, despite being told
    otherwise....

    Very much so. We were up to visit during that time. One night Steve
    and Dad went out to get supper; I had quite a time convincing Mom that supper was coming and she didn't have to do anything. Finally just let
    her set the table which kept her occupied for a few minutes, anyway.

    That worked... :)

    to what was in each unit, on what shelf.
    Aids to memory... :) What's logical to you isn't necessarily
    logical to someone else... (G)
    True, because it's been mostly my kitchen. Now it's more our
    kitchen. (G)
    Yup... as he does more and more cooking and baking in it... :)
    But I still set it up basically the way I wanted. He tinkers
    with it a bit, just got a new espresso maker so re-arrainged a
    few things to fit it in.
    Some things can be negotiated... (G)

    Yes, and he likes his coffee so...............

    Yup.

    ttyl neb

    ... A croquette is a romantic lady frog.

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to NANCY BACKUS on Tuesday, May 21, 2019 14:09:04
    Hi Nancy,

    And you'll get to fine tune it during your VBS... Just have to
    probably have more detailed instructions for someone else to do
    it NB>> than you'd need for yourself... :)
    Probably so, just have to come up with some ideas now. I'll be reading
    and re-reading the lessons several times in the next week or so to get ideas, then start shopping for supplies.

    What's the theme this year...?

    God's Call. We did it several years ago--first time I did the crafts and
    found out Elmer's glue and multi day projects don't work well together.


    It is hindsight now... and even had you been closer, you
    might not have picked up on it any faster... it tends to be
    gradual, like kids growing... one tends to see it more in
    chunks...
    Yes, and we weren't really considering that at that point. It
    seemed to be more of just an occaisional slip of the memory at
    that point. The general anesthesia she had some years later, in
    addition to the many years of improperly controlled diabetes,
    really kicked it in.
    Those both do take a big toll...
    Very much so. After she got out of the hospital/rehab with her
    hip, Dad wouldn't let her do any more cooking, tho it was hard
    to RH>> keep her out of the kitchen. About 9 months later she went
    into
    the nursing home.
    She "knew" that her place was in the kitchen, despite being told
    otherwise....

    Very much so. We were up to visit during that time. One night Steve
    and Dad went out to get supper; I had quite a time convincing Mom that supper was coming and she didn't have to do anything. Finally just let
    her set the table which kept her occupied for a few minutes, anyway.

    That worked... :)

    Other nights I put the meal together but let her do some things I knew
    she could do safely. She peeled potatoes but I cut them up. Their knives weren't in the best of shape; I knew she'd cut herself quite often so I
    figured to remove that hazard.

    to what was in each unit, on what shelf.
    Aids to memory... :) What's logical to you isn't necessarily
    logical to someone else... (G)
    True, because it's been mostly my kitchen. Now it's more our
    kitchen. (G)
    Yup... as he does more and more cooking and baking in it... :)
    But I still set it up basically the way I wanted. He tinkers
    with it a bit, just got a new espresso maker so re-arrainged a
    few things to fit it in.
    Some things can be negotiated... (G)

    Yes, and he likes his coffee so...............

    Yup.

    As long as I have a way to heat hot water for my tea, I'm happy. Had
    been using an electric pot after we got rid of the Keurig but it started
    to rust out. Now I either use the tea kettle or microwave.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to RUTH HAFFLY on Monday, May 27, 2019 14:46:00
    Quoting Ruth Haffly to Nancy Backus on 05-21-19 14:09 <=-

    And you'll get to fine tune it during your VBS... Just have to
    probably have more detailed instructions for someone else to do
    it than you'd need for yourself... :)
    Probably so, just have to come up with some ideas now. I'll be
    reading and re-reading the lessons several times in the next
    week or so to get ideas, then start shopping for supplies.
    What's the theme this year...?

    God's Call. We did it several years ago--first time I did the crafts
    and found out Elmer's glue and multi day projects don't work well together.

    So you totally have to rethink your projects for this year...? Is this
    going to be lessons on different people of the Bible that God called to
    serve in various ways....?

    She "knew" that her place was in the kitchen, despite being told
    otherwise....
    Very much so. We were up to visit during that time. One night
    Steve and Dad went out to get supper; I had quite a time
    convincing Mom that supper was coming and she didn't have to do
    anything. Finally just let her set the table which kept her
    occupied for a few minutes, anyway.
    That worked... :)

    Other nights I put the meal together but let her do some things I knew
    she could do safely. She peeled potatoes but I cut them up. Their
    knives weren't in the best of shape; I knew she'd cut herself quite
    often so I figured to remove that hazard.

    Good thinking there, too... :)

    True, because it's been mostly my kitchen. Now it's more our
    kitchen. (G)
    Yup... as he does more and more cooking and baking in it... :)
    But I still set it up basically the way I wanted. He tinkers
    with it a bit, just got a new espresso maker so re-arrainged a
    few things to fit it in.
    Some things can be negotiated... (G)
    Yes, and he likes his coffee so...............
    Yup.

    As long as I have a way to heat hot water for my tea, I'm happy. Had
    been using an electric pot after we got rid of the Keurig but it
    started to rust out. Now I either use the tea kettle or microwave.

    Either one works fine.... the nuker maybe a little faster, though.... ;)

    ttyl neb

    ... Cats: companions in grace, beauty, mystery & curiosity.

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to NANCY BACKUS on Tuesday, May 28, 2019 11:39:31
    Hi Nancy,

    probably have more detailed instructions for someone else to do
    it than you'd need for yourself... :)
    Probably so, just have to come up with some ideas now. I'll be
    reading and re-reading the lessons several times in the next
    week or so to get ideas, then start shopping for supplies.
    What's the theme this year...?

    God's Call. We did it several years ago--first time I did the crafts
    and found out Elmer's glue and multi day projects don't work well together.

    So you totally have to rethink your projects for this year...? Is
    this going to be lessons on different people of the Bible that God
    called to serve in various ways....?

    No, basically God's Call on (to) people. I won't go into more detail
    here; we can take it to e-mail if needs be.


    She "knew" that her place was in the kitchen, despite being
    told NB>>> otherwise....
    Very much so. We were up to visit during that time. One night
    Steve and Dad went out to get supper; I had quite a time
    convincing Mom that supper was coming and she didn't have to do
    anything. Finally just let her set the table which kept her
    occupied for a few minutes, anyway.
    That worked... :)

    Other nights I put the meal together but let her do some things I knew
    she could do safely. She peeled potatoes but I cut them up. Their
    knives weren't in the best of shape; I knew she'd cut herself quite
    often so I figured to remove that hazard.

    Good thinking there, too... :)

    I remeber growing up with just a wall mounted (small circles thing)
    knife sharpener; I think actually it basically just reset the edge. I
    don't recall Dad using a sharpener on the knives--they just seemed to
    get duller and duller so became more and more of a hazard. After I left
    home, coming back to visit and trying to cook a meal, finding a
    reasonably sharp knife was a bit of a challenge.

    True, because it's been mostly my kitchen. Now it's more our
    kitchen. (G)
    Yup... as he does more and more cooking and baking in it... :)
    But I still set it up basically the way I wanted. He tinkers
    with it a bit, just got a new espresso maker so re-arrainged a
    few things to fit it in.
    Some things can be negotiated... (G)
    Yes, and he likes his coffee so...............
    Yup.

    As long as I have a way to heat hot water for my tea, I'm happy. Had
    been using an electric pot after we got rid of the Keurig but it
    started to rust out. Now I either use the tea kettle or microwave.

    Either one works fine.... the nuker maybe a little faster, though....
    ;)

    It's a toss up; I'll generally put the tea kettle on the induction
    cooker so it heats up fairly fast.


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to RUTH HAFFLY on Thursday, May 30, 2019 21:32:00
    Quoting Ruth Haffly to Nancy Backus on 05-28-19 11:39 <=-

    Probably so, just have to come up with some ideas now. I'll be
    reading and re-reading the lessons several times in the next
    week or so to get ideas, then start shopping for supplies.
    What's the theme this year...?
    God's Call. We did it several years ago--first time I did the
    crafts and found out Elmer's glue and multi day projects don't
    work well together.
    So you totally have to rethink your projects for this year...?
    Is this going to be lessons on different people of the Bible
    that God called to serve in various ways....?

    No, basically God's Call on (to) people. I won't go into more detail
    here; we can take it to e-mail if needs be.

    Ok, send me more details in email... I am curious as to how that one
    works out... :)

    Other nights I put the meal together but let her do some things
    I knew she could do safely. She peeled potatoes but I cut them
    up. Their knives weren't in the best of shape; I knew she'd cut
    herself quite often so I figured to remove that hazard.
    Good thinking there, too... :)

    I remeber growing up with just a wall mounted (small circles thing)
    knife sharpener; I think actually it basically just reset the edge. I don't recall Dad using a sharpener on the knives--they just seemed to
    get duller and duller so became more and more of a hazard. After I
    left home, coming back to visit and trying to cook a meal, finding a reasonably sharp knife was a bit of a challenge.

    So bringing your own with you became a better option, I'd guess... :)

    True, because it's been mostly my kitchen. Now it's more our
    kitchen. (G)
    Yup... as he does more and more cooking and baking in it... :)
    But I still set it up basically the way I wanted. He tinkers
    with it a bit, just got a new espresso maker so re-arrainged a
    few things to fit it in.
    Some things can be negotiated... (G)
    Yes, and he likes his coffee so...............
    Yup.
    As long as I have a way to heat hot water for my tea, I'm happy.
    Had been using an electric pot after we got rid of the Keurig but it
    started to rust out. Now I either use the tea kettle or microwave.
    Either one works fine.... the nuker maybe a little faster,
    though.... ;)

    It's a toss up; I'll generally put the tea kettle on the induction
    cooker so it heats up fairly fast.

    And if you think of it, you can start the teakettle earlier while doing
    one more thing before sitting down to your tea, too... ;)

    ttyl neb

    ... You have my two cents worth - NOW can I have my change?

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to NANCY BACKUS on Friday, May 31, 2019 19:48:37
    Hi Nancy,

    God's Call. We did it several years ago--first time I did the
    crafts and found out Elmer's glue and multi day projects don't
    work well together.
    So you totally have to rethink your projects for this year...?
    Is this going to be lessons on different people of the Bible
    that God called to serve in various ways....?

    No, basically God's Call on (to) people. I won't go into more detail
    here; we can take it to e-mail if needs be.

    Ok, send me more details in email... I am curious as to how that one
    works out... :)

    Will do.

    Other nights I put the meal together but let her do some things
    I knew she could do safely. She peeled potatoes but I cut them
    up. Their knives weren't in the best of shape; I knew she'd cut
    herself quite often so I figured to remove that hazard.
    Good thinking there, too... :)

    I remeber growing up with just a wall mounted (small circles thing)
    knife sharpener; I think actually it basically just reset the edge. I don't recall Dad using a sharpener on the knives--they just seemed to
    get duller and duller so became more and more of a hazard. After I
    left home, coming back to visit and trying to cook a meal, finding a reasonably sharp knife was a bit of a challenge.

    So bringing your own with you became a better option, I'd guess... :)

    We never did so I always tried to pick the best of what she had to use.
    Hard choice sometimes. Don't know what happened to those knives, if my
    brother kept them when he moved into the house or got rid of them, but
    they're not worth asking about.

    with it a bit, just got a new espresso maker so re-arrainged a
    few things to fit it in.
    Some things can be negotiated... (G)
    Yes, and he likes his coffee so...............
    Yup.
    As long as I have a way to heat hot water for my tea, I'm happy.
    Had been using an electric pot after we got rid of the Keurig
    but it RH>> started to rust out. Now I either use the tea kettle or microwave. NB>> Either one works fine.... the nuker maybe a little faster,
    though.... ;)

    It's a toss up; I'll generally put the tea kettle on the induction
    cooker so it heats up fairly fast.

    And if you think of it, you can start the teakettle earlier while
    doing one more thing before sitting down to your tea, too... ;)

    That's generally the first thing I do when I go into the kitchen in the morning. Get the tea going so it's ready whenever I'm ready for it.


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to RUTH HAFFLY on Tuesday, June 04, 2019 19:23:00
    Quoting Ruth Haffly to Nancy Backus on 05-31-19 19:48 <=-

    God's Call. We did it several years ago--first time I did the
    crafts and found out Elmer's glue and multi day projects don't
    work well together.
    So you totally have to rethink your projects for this year...?
    Is this going to be lessons on different people of the Bible
    that God called to serve in various ways....?
    No, basically God's Call on (to) people. I won't go into more
    detail here; we can take it to e-mail if needs be.
    Ok, send me more details in email... I am curious as to how
    that one works out... :)

    Will do.

    Received and answered.

    Other nights I put the meal together but let her do some things
    I knew she could do safely. She peeled potatoes but I cut them
    up. Their knives weren't in the best of shape; I knew she'd cut
    herself quite often so I figured to remove that hazard.
    Good thinking there, too... :)
    I remember growing up with just a wall mounted (small circles
    thing) knife sharpener; I think actually it basically just reset
    the edge. I don't recall Dad using a sharpener on the knives--
    they just seemed to get duller and duller so became more and
    more of a hazard. After I left home, coming back to visit and
    trying to cook a meal, finding a reasonably sharp knife was a
    bit of a challenge.
    So bringing your own with you became a better option, I'd guess..

    We never did so I always tried to pick the best of what she had to
    use. Hard choice sometimes. Don't know what happened to those knives,
    if my brother kept them when he moved into the house or got rid of
    them, but they're not worth asking about.

    Ah... Only reason to really wonder would be if there was a chance you
    might have to use them again, if cooking in his kitchen... ;)

    with it a bit, just got a new espresso maker so re-arrainged a
    few things to fit it in.
    Some things can be negotiated... (G)
    Yes, and he likes his coffee so...............
    Yup.
    As long as I have a way to heat hot water for my tea, I'm happy.
    Had been using an electric pot after we got rid of the Keurig
    but it started to rust out. Now I either use the tea kettle or
    microwave.
    Either one works fine.... the nuker maybe a little faster,
    though.... ;)
    It's a toss up; I'll generally put the tea kettle on the
    induction cooker so it heats up fairly fast.
    And if you think of it, you can start the teakettle earlier
    while doing one more thing before sitting down to your tea,
    too... ;)

    That's generally the first thing I do when I go into the kitchen in
    the morning. Get the tea going so it's ready whenever I'm ready for it.

    That works... :)

    ttyl neb

    ... It's a tough job! ..... So I'd Rather YOU do it.

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to NANCY BACKUS on Wednesday, June 05, 2019 17:09:18
    Hi Nancy,

    Is this going to be lessons on different people of the Bible
    that God called to serve in various ways....?
    No, basically God's Call on (to) people. I won't go into more
    detail here; we can take it to e-mail if needs be.
    Ok, send me more details in email... I am curious as to how
    that one works out... :)

    Will do.

    Received and answered.

    I remember growing up with just a wall mounted (small circles
    thing) knife sharpener; I think actually it basically just reset
    the edge. I don't recall Dad using a sharpener on the knives--
    they just seemed to get duller and duller so became more and
    more of a hazard. After I left home, coming back to visit and
    trying to cook a meal, finding a reasonably sharp knife was a
    bit of a challenge.
    So bringing your own with you became a better option, I'd
    guess..

    We never did so I always tried to pick the best of what she had to
    use. Hard choice sometimes. Don't know what happened to those knives,
    if my brother kept them when he moved into the house or got rid of
    them, but they're not worth asking about.

    Ah... Only reason to really wonder would be if there was a chance you might have to use them again, if cooking in his kitchen... ;)

    I did, when we went up for Dad's services. My brother asked me to make
    some ziti so I had to cut up an onion with what was available. I found a
    knife that did a passable job, but still not the quality of my knives.

    As long as I have a way to heat hot water for my tea, I'm
    happy. RH>>> Had been using an electric pot after we got rid of the Keurig
    but it started to rust out. Now I either use the tea kettle or
    microwave.
    Either one works fine.... the nuker maybe a little faster,
    though.... ;)
    It's a toss up; I'll generally put the tea kettle on the
    induction cooker so it heats up fairly fast.
    And if you think of it, you can start the teakettle earlier
    while doing one more thing before sitting down to your tea,
    too... ;)

    That's generally the first thing I do when I go into the kitchen in
    the morning. Get the tea going so it's ready whenever I'm ready for it.

    That works... :)

    It's become routine now. If I get wrapped up in something else and it
    cools too much, I can reheat it. If it's too hot, I can add an ice
    crescent. (G) Mostly, tho, it's just right.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to RUTH HAFFLY on Saturday, June 08, 2019 15:04:00
    Quoting Ruth Haffly to Nancy Backus on 06-05-19 17:09 <=-

    So bringing your own with you became a better option, I'd
    guess..
    We never did so I always tried to pick the best of what she
    had to use. Hard choice sometimes. Don't know what happened to
    those knives, if my brother kept them when he moved into the
    house or got rid of them, but they're not worth asking about.
    Ah... Only reason to really wonder would be if there was a
    chance you might have to use them again, if cooking in his
    kitchen... ;)
    I did, when we went up for Dad's services. My brother asked me to make some ziti so I had to cut up an onion with what was available. I found
    a knife that did a passable job, but still not the quality of my
    knives.

    At least there was one that was passable... ;)

    As long as I have a way to heat hot water for my tea, I'm
    happy. Had been using an electric pot after we got rid of the
    Keurig but it started to rust out. Now I either use the tea
    kettle or microwave.
    Either one works fine.... the nuker maybe a little faster,
    though.... ;)
    It's a toss up; I'll generally put the tea kettle on the
    induction cooker so it heats up fairly fast.
    And if you think of it, you can start the teakettle earlier
    while doing one more thing before sitting down to your tea,
    too... ;)
    That's generally the first thing I do when I go into the
    kitchen in the morning. Get the tea going so it's ready
    whenever I'm ready for it.
    That works... :)

    It's become routine now. If I get wrapped up in something else and it cools too much, I can reheat it. If it's too hot, I can add an ice crescent. (G) Mostly, tho, it's just right.

    Got it down to a science, I see...

    ttyl neb

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to NANCY BACKUS on Tuesday, June 11, 2019 20:09:07
    Hi Nancy,

    those knives, if my brother kept them when he moved into the
    house or got rid of them, but they're not worth asking about.
    Ah... Only reason to really wonder would be if there was a
    chance you might have to use them again, if cooking in his
    kitchen... ;)
    I did, when we went up for Dad's services. My brother asked me to make some ziti so I had to cut up an onion with what was available. I found
    a knife that did a passable job, but still not the quality of my
    knives.

    At least there was one that was passable... ;)

    Barely, but better than none.


    As long as I have a way to heat hot water for my tea, I'm
    happy. Had been using an electric pot after we got rid of the
    Keurig but it started to rust out. Now I either use the tea
    kettle or microwave.
    Either one works fine.... the nuker maybe a little faster,
    though.... ;)
    It's a toss up; I'll generally put the tea kettle on the
    induction cooker so it heats up fairly fast.
    And if you think of it, you can start the teakettle earlier
    while doing one more thing before sitting down to your tea,
    too... ;)
    That's generally the first thing I do when I go into the
    kitchen in the morning. Get the tea going so it's ready
    whenever I'm ready for it.
    That works... :)

    It's become routine now. If I get wrapped up in something else and it cools too much, I can reheat it. If it's too hot, I can add an ice crescent. (G) Mostly, tho, it's just right.

    Got it down to a science, I see...

    Basically so. I don't mind the smell of coffee, just can't take the
    taste of it so will enjoy my tea in the morning instead.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to RUTH HAFFLY on Sunday, June 16, 2019 22:12:00
    Quoting Ruth Haffly to Nancy Backus on 06-11-19 20:09 <=-

    those knives, if my brother kept them when he moved into the
    house or got rid of them, but they're not worth asking about.
    Ah... Only reason to really wonder would be if there was a
    chance you might have to use them again, if cooking in his
    kitchen... ;)
    I did, when we went up for Dad's services. My brother asked me
    to make some ziti so I had to cut up an onion with what was
    available. I found a knife that did a passable job, but still
    not the quality of my knives.
    At least there was one that was passable... ;)

    Barely, but better than none.

    Maybe you should plan to take one of yours with you just in case, if
    there's a next time... :)

    As long as I have a way to heat hot water for my tea, I'm
    happy. Had been using an electric pot after we got rid of the
    Keurig but it started to rust out. Now I either use the tea
    kettle or microwave.
    Either one works fine.... the nuker maybe a little faster,
    though.... ;)
    It's a toss up; I'll generally put the tea kettle on the
    induction cooker so it heats up fairly fast.
    And if you think of it, you can start the teakettle earlier
    while doing one more thing before sitting down to your tea,
    too... ;)
    That's generally the first thing I do when I go into the
    kitchen in the morning. Get the tea going so it's ready
    whenever I'm ready for it.
    That works... :)
    It's become routine now. If I get wrapped up in something else
    and it cools too much, I can reheat it. If it's too hot, I can
    add an ice crescent. (G) Mostly, tho, it's just right.
    Got it down to a science, I see...

    Basically so. I don't mind the smell of coffee, just can't take the
    taste of it so will enjoy my tea in the morning instead.

    Keeps everybody happy... :) Around our house, it's generally milk
    instead of coffee or tea.... :)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to NANCY BACKUS on Saturday, June 22, 2019 22:42:41
    Hi Nancy,

    I did, when we went up for Dad's services. My brother asked me
    to make some ziti so I had to cut up an onion with what was
    available. I found a knife that did a passable job, but still
    not the quality of my knives.
    At least there was one that was passable... ;)

    Barely, but better than none.

    Maybe you should plan to take one of yours with you just in case, if there's a next time... :)

    We'll see what the circumstances are. If we can bring the camper, we'll
    have good knives with us. It's a rather complete kitchen, as you will
    see.

    That's generally the first thing I do when I go into the
    kitchen in the morning. Get the tea going so it's ready
    whenever I'm ready for it.
    That works... :)
    It's become routine now. If I get wrapped up in something else
    and it cools too much, I can reheat it. If it's too hot, I can
    add an ice crescent. (G) Mostly, tho, it's just right.
    Got it down to a science, I see...

    Basically so. I don't mind the smell of coffee, just can't take the
    taste of it so will enjoy my tea in the morning instead.

    Keeps everybody happy... :) Around our house, it's generally milk instead of coffee or tea.... :)

    Steve is lactose intolerant; I gave up drinking milk some years ago so
    we don't keep the regular stuff on hand. He'll have almond milk on his
    cereal and I use the dry in baking. I'll mix some of the regular up in
    small amounts, as needed, for cooking also.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Michael Loo on Tuesday, June 25, 2019 02:07:04
    On 06-24-19 12:36, Michael Loo <=-
    spoke to Dale Shipp about 574 dining with the <=-


    I finished up the pasta in cream/sherry sauce tonight. It still was good, reheated at low speed in the microwave.

    Last night we finished the Ethiopian leftovers we brought home. Gail
    added a dish of Ethiopian beef that we had in the meals ready to eat
    freezer. Together with the copius amount of rice and the yellow split
    peas, it was quite a sufficient meal. Everything tasted good except for
    the injera. You had remarked that it was a sour dough version, although
    I did not really taste that at the restaurant. But the five days in the
    frig allowed it to develop even more and was too sour to eat.

    Here is a Tex-Mex dish without any cheese, just for you. Of course, you
    would modify. E.g. red pepper for green, much more chili powder, some
    cumin. Don't drain the fat.

    Am I getting to know you or not?

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

    Title: TEX-MEX Hash
    Categories: Main dish, Mexican
    Yield: 5 servings

    1 lb Ground beef
    1 Green pepper, chopped
    1/2 c Rice, uncooked
    2 ts Salt
    3 Onion, sliced
    1 cn Tomato, whole (medium can)
    1 ts Chili powder
    Pepper, dash

    Preheat oven to 350 degrees. Pan fry ground beef until light brown in
    skillet. Drain fat. Add onions & peppers and cook until onion is
    tender. Stir in rest of ingredients and heat until warm. Pour in a
    casserole dish, cover, bake for 1 hour.
    ... From the files of James Wilson, wilson@primenet.com

    MMMMM


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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to RUTH HAFFLY on Thursday, June 27, 2019 21:28:00
    Quoting Ruth Haffly to Nancy Backus on 06-22-19 22:42 <=-

    I did, when we went up for Dad's services. My brother asked me
    to make some ziti so I had to cut up an onion with what was
    available. I found a knife that did a passable job, but still
    not the quality of my knives.
    At least there was one that was passable... ;)
    Barely, but better than none.
    Maybe you should plan to take one of yours with you just in
    case, if there's a next time... :)

    We'll see what the circumstances are. If we can bring the camper,
    we'll have good knives with us. It's a rather complete kitchen, as you will see.

    Actually, I think I have seen.... ;)

    That's generally the first thing I do when I go into the
    kitchen in the morning. Get the tea going so it's ready
    whenever I'm ready for it.
    That works... :)
    It's become routine now. If I get wrapped up in something else
    and it cools too much, I can reheat it. If it's too hot, I can
    add an ice crescent. (G) Mostly, tho, it's just right.
    Got it down to a science, I see...
    Basically so. I don't mind the smell of coffee, just can't take
    the taste of it so will enjoy my tea in the morning instead.
    Keeps everybody happy... :) Around our house, it's generally
    milk instead of coffee or tea.... :)

    Steve is lactose intolerant; I gave up drinking milk some years ago so
    we don't keep the regular stuff on hand. He'll have almond milk on his cereal and I use the dry in baking. I'll mix some of the regular up in small amounts, as needed, for cooking also.

    Meanwhile, neither of us is lactose intolerant, thankfully.... and I'm coffee-intolerant.... ;)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to NANCY BACKUS on Friday, June 28, 2019 14:27:53
    Hi Nancy,

    Maybe you should plan to take one of yours with you just in
    case, if there's a next time... :)

    We'll see what the circumstances are. If we can bring the camper,
    we'll have good knives with us. It's a rather complete kitchen, as you will see.

    Actually, I think I have seen.... ;)

    We keep adding to it tho. (G)

    That works... :)
    It's become routine now. If I get wrapped up in something else
    and it cools too much, I can reheat it. If it's too hot, I can
    add an ice crescent. (G) Mostly, tho, it's just right.
    Got it down to a science, I see...
    Basically so. I don't mind the smell of coffee, just can't take
    the taste of it so will enjoy my tea in the morning instead.
    Keeps everybody happy... :) Around our house, it's generally
    milk instead of coffee or tea.... :)

    Steve is lactose intolerant; I gave up drinking milk some years ago so
    we don't keep the regular stuff on hand. He'll have almond milk on his cereal and I use the dry in baking. I'll mix some of the regular up in small amounts, as needed, for cooking also.

    Meanwhile, neither of us is lactose intolerant, thankfully.... and I'm coffee-intolerant.... ;)

    I'm not coffee intolerant; I just can't take the taste of it.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to RUTH HAFFLY on Tuesday, July 02, 2019 20:33:00
    Quoting Ruth Haffly to Nancy Backus on 06-28-19 14:27 <=-

    Maybe you should plan to take one of yours with you just in
    case, if there's a next time... :)
    We'll see what the circumstances are. If we can bring the
    camper, we'll have good knives with us. It's a rather complete
    kitchen, as you will see.
    Actually, I think I have seen.... ;)

    We keep adding to it tho. (G)

    No surprise there.... (G)

    It's become routine now. If I get wrapped up in something else
    and it cools too much, I can reheat it. If it's too hot, I can
    add an ice crescent. (G) Mostly, tho, it's just right.
    Got it down to a science, I see...
    Basically so. I don't mind the smell of coffee, just can't take
    the taste of it so will enjoy my tea in the morning instead.
    Keeps everybody happy... :) Around our house, it's generally
    milk instead of coffee or tea.... :)
    Steve is lactose intolerant; I gave up drinking milk some years
    ago so we don't keep the regular stuff on hand. He'll have almond
    milk on his cereal and I use the dry in baking. I'll mix some of
    the regular up in small amounts, as needed, for cooking also.
    Meanwhile, neither of us is lactose intolerant, thankfully....
    and I'm coffee-intolerant.... ;)

    I'm not coffee intolerant; I just can't take the taste of it.

    I still miss it... :) Along with apples.... ;)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to NANCY BACKUS on Wednesday, July 03, 2019 17:17:32
    Hi Nancy,

    We'll see what the circumstances are. If we can bring the
    camper, we'll have good knives with us. It's a rather complete
    kitchen, as you will see.
    Actually, I think I have seen.... ;)

    We keep adding to it tho. (G)

    No surprise there.... (G)

    No, not really.

    Basically so. I don't mind the smell of coffee, just can't take
    the taste of it so will enjoy my tea in the morning instead.
    Keeps everybody happy... :) Around our house, it's generally
    milk instead of coffee or tea.... :)
    Steve is lactose intolerant; I gave up drinking milk some years
    ago so we don't keep the regular stuff on hand. He'll have
    almond RH>> milk on his cereal and I use the dry in baking. I'll mix
    some of
    the regular up in small amounts, as needed, for cooking also.
    Meanwhile, neither of us is lactose intolerant, thankfully....
    and I'm coffee-intolerant.... ;)

    I'm not coffee intolerant; I just can't take the taste of it.

    I still miss it... :) Along with apples.... ;)

    I never developed a taste for coffee so don't miss it. OTOH, if I had to
    give up apples, I would miss them. There are fruits I like better but
    nothing can replace apples for some things.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to RUTH HAFFLY on Tuesday, July 16, 2019 00:52:00
    Quoting Ruth Haffly to Nancy Backus on 07-03-19 17:17 <=-

    We'll see what the circumstances are. If we can bring the
    camper, we'll have good knives with us. It's a rather complete
    kitchen, as you will see.
    Actually, I think I have seen.... ;)
    We keep adding to it tho. (G)
    No surprise there.... (G)

    No, not really.

    If nothing else, Steve will find some neat gadget... ;)

    Basically so. I don't mind the smell of coffee, just can't take
    the taste of it so will enjoy my tea in the morning instead.
    Keeps everybody happy... :) Around our house, it's generally
    milk instead of coffee or tea.... :)
    Steve is lactose intolerant; I gave up drinking milk some years
    ago so we don't keep the regular stuff on hand. He'll have
    almond milk on his cereal and I use the dry in baking. I'll mix
    some of the regular up in small amounts, as needed, for cooking
    also.
    Meanwhile, neither of us is lactose intolerant, thankfully....
    and I'm coffee-intolerant.... ;)
    I'm not coffee intolerant; I just can't take the taste of it.
    I still miss it... :) Along with apples.... ;)

    I never developed a taste for coffee so don't miss it. OTOH, if I had
    to give up apples, I would miss them. There are fruits I like better
    but nothing can replace apples for some things.

    Indeed.... tell me about it....!!! Along with the plenty of things that
    don't need the extra apple in them, there are all those lovely apple
    things that I just can't have any more.... and pear or grape don't
    substitute for all of them....

    ttyl neb

    ... Experience is knowing a lot of things you shouldn't do again.

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to NANCY BACKUS on Sunday, July 21, 2019 19:58:25
    Hi Nancy,

    We'll see what the circumstances are. If we can bring the
    camper, we'll have good knives with us. It's a rather complete
    kitchen, as you will see.
    Actually, I think I have seen.... ;)
    We keep adding to it tho. (G)
    No surprise there.... (G)

    No, not really.

    If nothing else, Steve will find some neat gadget... ;)

    Undoubtedly. He's on a forum where all sorts of ideas are exchanged,
    including pictures. He's posted some of his work too.

    Meanwhile, neither of us is lactose intolerant, thankfully....
    and I'm coffee-intolerant.... ;)
    I'm not coffee intolerant; I just can't take the taste of it.
    I still miss it... :) Along with apples.... ;)

    I never developed a taste for coffee so don't miss it. OTOH, if I had
    to give up apples, I would miss them. There are fruits I like better
    but nothing can replace apples for some things.

    Indeed.... tell me about it....!!! Along with the plenty of things
    that don't need the extra apple in them, there are all those lovely
    apple
    things that I just can't have any more.... and pear or grape don't substitute for all of them....

    Pear worked well last year for the Waldorf type salad I made, the year
    before for the dessert Gail made. But, I know, it can't sub for
    everything, much as you would want it to sometimes. Grape is even less
    of a sub for some things, IMO.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to RUTH HAFFLY on Thursday, July 25, 2019 22:18:00
    Quoting Ruth Haffly to Nancy Backus on 07-21-19 19:58 <=-

    We'll see what the circumstances are. If we can bring the
    camper, we'll have good knives with us. It's a rather complete
    kitchen, as you will see.
    Actually, I think I have seen.... ;)
    We keep adding to it tho. (G)
    No surprise there.... (G)
    No, not really.
    If nothing else, Steve will find some neat gadget... ;)

    Undoubtedly. He's on a forum where all sorts of ideas are exchanged, including pictures. He's posted some of his work too.

    Good to share... :)

    I'm not coffee intolerant; I just can't take the taste of it.
    I still miss it... :) Along with apples.... ;)
    I never developed a taste for coffee so don't miss it. OTOH, if
    I had to give up apples, I would miss them. There are fruits I
    like better but nothing can replace apples for some things.
    Indeed.... tell me about it....!!! Along with the plenty of things
    that don't need the extra apple in them, there are all those lovely
    apple things that I just can't have any more.... and pear or grape
    don't substitute for all of them....

    Pear worked well last year for the Waldorf type salad I made, the year before for the dessert Gail made. But, I know, it can't sub for everything, much as you would want it to sometimes. Grape is even less
    of a sub for some things, IMO.

    When the whole fruit is being used, pear is a better substitute...
    either works out pretty well when talking about apple juice... it does
    depend on what it is, though... :)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to NANCY BACKUS on Friday, July 26, 2019 20:38:28
    Hi Nancy,

    We keep adding to it tho. (G)
    No surprise there.... (G)
    No, not really.
    If nothing else, Steve will find some neat gadget... ;)

    Undoubtedly. He's on a forum where all sorts of ideas are exchanged, including pictures. He's posted some of his work too.

    Good to share... :)

    Very much so, he enjoys it very much.

    I'm not coffee intolerant; I just can't take the taste of it.
    I still miss it... :) Along with apples.... ;)
    I never developed a taste for coffee so don't miss it. OTOH, if
    I had to give up apples, I would miss them. There are fruits I
    like better but nothing can replace apples for some things.
    Indeed.... tell me about it....!!! Along with the plenty of
    things NB>> that don't need the extra apple in them, there are all
    those lovely NB>> apple things that I just can't have any more....
    and pear or grape NB>> don't substitute for all of them....

    Pear worked well last year for the Waldorf type salad I made, the year before for the dessert Gail made. But, I know, it can't sub for everything, much as you would want it to sometimes. Grape is even less
    of a sub for some things, IMO.

    When the whole fruit is being used, pear is a better substitute...
    either works out pretty well when talking about apple juice... it does depend on what it is, though... :)

    I know, and that's the rub. We have to read labels for various
    iterations of corn--that stuff is in almost every thing!

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to RUTH HAFFLY on Thursday, August 01, 2019 20:03:00
    Quoting Ruth Haffly to Nancy Backus on 07-26-19 20:38 <=-

    We keep adding to it tho. (G)
    No surprise there.... (G)
    No, not really.
    If nothing else, Steve will find some neat gadget... ;)
    Undoubtedly. He's on a forum where all sorts of ideas are
    exchanged, including pictures. He's posted some of his work too.
    Good to share... :)

    Very much so, he enjoys it very much.

    No surprise there... :)

    I'm not coffee intolerant; I just can't take the taste of it.
    I still miss it... :) Along with apples.... ;)
    I never developed a taste for coffee so don't miss it. OTOH, if
    I had to give up apples, I would miss them. There are fruits I
    like better but nothing can replace apples for some things.
    Indeed.... tell me about it....!!! Along with the plenty of
    things that don't need the extra apple in them, there are all
    those lovely apple things that I just can't have any more....
    and pear or grape don't substitute for all of them....
    Pear worked well last year for the Waldorf type salad I made,
    the year before for the dessert Gail made. But, I know, it
    can't sub for everything, much as you would want it to
    sometimes. Grape is even less of a sub for some things, IMO.
    When the whole fruit is being used, pear is a better
    substitute... either works out pretty well when talking about
    apple juice... it does depend on what it is, though... :)

    I know, and that's the rub. We have to read labels for various
    iterations of corn--that stuff is in almost every thing!

    Quite a few things like that, actually... corn, apple, HFCS, MSG,
    gluten, excessive salt, artificial sweeteners... depending on what the sensitivity is to..... :)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to NANCY BACKUS on Friday, August 02, 2019 14:44:15
    Hi Nancy,

    If nothing else, Steve will find some neat gadget... ;)
    Undoubtedly. He's on a forum where all sorts of ideas are
    exchanged, including pictures. He's posted some of his work too.
    Good to share... :)

    Very much so, he enjoys it very much.

    No surprise there... :)

    Very much like his dad in that respect.

    like better but nothing can replace apples for some things.
    Indeed.... tell me about it....!!! Along with the plenty of
    things that don't need the extra apple in them, there are all
    those lovely apple things that I just can't have any more....
    and pear or grape don't substitute for all of them....
    Pear worked well last year for the Waldorf type salad I made,
    the year before for the dessert Gail made. But, I know, it
    can't sub for everything, much as you would want it to
    sometimes. Grape is even less of a sub for some things, IMO.
    When the whole fruit is being used, pear is a better
    substitute... either works out pretty well when talking about
    apple juice... it does depend on what it is, though... :)

    I know, and that's the rub. We have to read labels for various
    iterations of corn--that stuff is in almost every thing!

    Quite a few things like that, actually... corn, apple, HFCS, MSG,
    gluten, excessive salt, artificial sweeteners... depending on what the sensitivity is to..... :)

    Or just pure don't like. When we go to a Thai place we don't get
    anything with cilantro in it for Steve or coconut for me. Getting harder
    to find those options now, and splitting an entree is almost impossible.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to RUTH HAFFLY on Wednesday, August 07, 2019 18:57:00
    Quoting Ruth Haffly to Nancy Backus on 08-02-19 14:44 <=-

    Pear worked well last year for the Waldorf type salad I made,
    the year before for the dessert Gail made. But, I know, it
    can't sub for everything, much as you would want it to
    sometimes. Grape is even less of a sub for some things, IMO.
    When the whole fruit is being used, pear is a better
    substitute... either works out pretty well when talking about
    apple juice... it does depend on what it is, though... :)
    I know, and that's the rub. We have to read labels for various
    iterations of corn--that stuff is in almost every thing!
    Quite a few things like that, actually... corn, apple, HFCS, MSG,
    gluten, excessive salt, artificial sweeteners... depending on
    what the sensitivity is to..... :)

    Or just pure don't like.

    There is that, too... ;)

    When we go to a Thai place we don't get anything with cilantro
    in it for Steve or coconut for me. Getting harder to find those
    options now, and splitting an entree is almost impossible.

    At least for places like that, there's a chance that the cook would be
    willing and able to make some substitutions for you... not quite the
    same as something previously processed... :)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to NANCY BACKUS on Thursday, August 08, 2019 19:55:43
    Hi Nancy,

    When the whole fruit is being used, pear is a better
    substitute... either works out pretty well when talking about
    apple juice... it does depend on what it is, though... :)
    I know, and that's the rub. We have to read labels for various
    iterations of corn--that stuff is in almost every thing!
    Quite a few things like that, actually... corn, apple, HFCS,
    MSG, NB>> gluten, excessive salt, artificial sweeteners... depending
    on
    what the sensitivity is to..... :)

    Or just pure don't like.

    There is that, too... ;)

    Win some, lose some but overall, we eat quite well.


    When we go to a Thai place we don't get anything with cilantro
    in it for Steve or coconut for me. Getting harder to find those
    options now, and splitting an entree is almost impossible.

    At least for places like that, there's a chance that the cook would be willing and able to make some substitutions for you... not quite the
    same as something previously processed... :)

    It's a possibility, if the place isn't too busy. If we couldn't do that,
    then we'd probably order 2 entrees--a cilantro free and a coconut milk
    free ones. (G)

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to RUTH HAFFLY on Wednesday, August 14, 2019 11:20:00
    Quoting Ruth Haffly to Nancy Backus on 08-08-19 19:55 <=-

    When the whole fruit is being used, pear is a better
    substitute... either works out pretty well when talking about
    apple juice... it does depend on what it is, though... :)
    I know, and that's the rub. We have to read labels for various
    iterations of corn--that stuff is in almost every thing!
    Quite a few things like that, actually... corn, apple, HFCS,
    MSG, gluten, excessive salt, artificial sweeteners... depending
    on what the sensitivity is to..... :)
    Or just pure don't like.
    There is that, too... ;)

    Win some, lose some but overall, we eat quite well.

    For sure... :)

    When we go to a Thai place we don't get anything with cilantro
    in it for Steve or coconut for me. Getting harder to find those
    options now, and splitting an entree is almost impossible.
    At least for places like that, there's a chance that the cook
    would be willing and able to make some substitutions for you...
    not quite the same as something previously processed... :)

    It's a possibility, if the place isn't too busy. If we couldn't do
    that, then we'd probably order 2 entrees--a cilantro free and a coconut milk free ones. (G)

    And then take some home for another meal... :)

    ttyl neb

    ... I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere!

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to NANCY BACKUS on Saturday, August 17, 2019 16:53:42
    Hi Nancy,

    substitute... either works out pretty well when talking about
    apple juice... it does depend on what it is, though... :)
    I know, and that's the rub. We have to read labels for various
    iterations of corn--that stuff is in almost every thing!
    Quite a few things like that, actually... corn, apple, HFCS,
    MSG, gluten, excessive salt, artificial sweeteners... depending
    on what the sensitivity is to..... :)
    Or just pure don't like.
    There is that, too... ;)

    Win some, lose some but overall, we eat quite well.

    For sure... :)

    For us, it's a lot better than we did as kids.

    When we go to a Thai place we don't get anything with cilantro
    in it for Steve or coconut for me. Getting harder to find those
    options now, and splitting an entree is almost impossible.
    At least for places like that, there's a chance that the cook
    would be willing and able to make some substitutions for you...
    not quite the same as something previously processed... :)

    It's a possibility, if the place isn't too busy. If we couldn't do
    that, then we'd probably order 2 entrees--a cilantro free and a coconut milk free ones. (G)

    And then take some home for another meal... :)

    Always a possibility.


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to RUTH HAFFLY on Friday, August 23, 2019 12:24:00
    Quoting Ruth Haffly to Nancy Backus on 08-17-19 16:53 <=-

    substitute... either works out pretty well when talking about
    apple juice... it does depend on what it is, though... :)
    I know, and that's the rub. We have to read labels for various
    iterations of corn--that stuff is in almost every thing!
    Quite a few things like that, actually... corn, apple, HFCS,
    MSG, gluten, excessive salt, artificial sweeteners... depending
    on what the sensitivity is to..... :)
    Or just pure don't like.
    There is that, too... ;)
    Win some, lose some but overall, we eat quite well.
    For sure... :)

    For us, it's a lot better than we did as kids.

    For us, probably some better... and in better quantities, at least for
    me... ;)

    When we go to a Thai place we don't get anything with cilantro
    in it for Steve or coconut for me. Getting harder to find those
    options now, and splitting an entree is almost impossible.
    At least for places like that, there's a chance that the cook
    would be willing and able to make some substitutions for you...
    not quite the same as something previously processed... :)
    It's a possibility, if the place isn't too busy. If we couldn't
    do that, then we'd probably order 2 entrees--a cilantro free and
    a coconut milk free ones. (G)
    And then take some home for another meal... :)

    Always a possibility.

    And enjoy it again.... ;)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to NANCY BACKUS on Saturday, August 24, 2019 16:50:22
    Hi Nancy,

    I know, and that's the rub. We have to read labels for various
    iterations of corn--that stuff is in almost every thing!
    Quite a few things like that, actually... corn, apple, HFCS,
    MSG, gluten, excessive salt, artificial sweeteners...
    depending NB>>>> on what the sensitivity is to..... :)
    Or just pure don't like.
    There is that, too... ;)
    Win some, lose some but overall, we eat quite well.
    For sure... :)

    For us, it's a lot better than we did as kids.

    For us, probably some better... and in better quantities, at least for me... ;)

    We had adequate, never any over abundance but never went away hungry.


    When we go to a Thai place we don't get anything with cilantro
    in it for Steve or coconut for me. Getting harder to find those
    options now, and splitting an entree is almost impossible.
    At least for places like that, there's a chance that the cook
    would be willing and able to make some substitutions for you...
    not quite the same as something previously processed... :)
    It's a possibility, if the place isn't too busy. If we couldn't
    do that, then we'd probably order 2 entrees--a cilantro free and
    a coconut milk free ones. (G)
    And then take some home for another meal... :)

    Always a possibility.

    And enjoy it again.... ;)

    Probably so; we've done that a good number of times before.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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