• 718 career paths was

    From MICHAEL LOO@1:123/140 to NANCY BACKUS on Monday, December 24, 2018 11:22:44
    The question is can you have both skill sets
    rolled up into the same person.
    Admittedly not very common, but it is possible... I've seen it in action... :)
    It's a set of qualities whose coincidence
    is to be desired, but perhaps as rare as an
    eclipse or a "blue moon."
    Perhaps, or maybe just a little more common... :)

    Probably commoner in the olden days, when nursing and
    social work was along with teaching and librarianship
    were among the few ways a smart woman could enter an
    advanceable career. Now, doctory and lawyery professions
    are open to women, so a lot of the very best are
    siphoned away from those positions that were formerly
    filled by sometimes massively overqualified labor.

    The demands placed on the staff are greater than ever
    - but that might be largely due to understaffing by
    the comfortably paid hospital administration.
    Sad, but quite possible...
    Danger of falling into a sort of negative corollary
    of Parkinson's Law when it happens. I.e., the time
    available constricts to squeeze the work when the
    work is abundant.
    That sounds particularly nasty, actually.... ;) Especially given how my
    last week has been going.... work has been abundant, and time did indeed squeeze.... hence, a week where I thought I'd be catching up has been
    one where I've slipped farther behind on messaging... sigh....

    Life gets in the way of second life.

    But both these phenomena bleed off talent from
    places where they would be of greatest use.
    True, there is that possibility...
    Danger of falling into the Peter Principle when
    it happens.
    Yes, a danger there... but not always the case from what I've seen...
    for some it just lets them use their gifts better...

    One thanks the heavens for those who have an
    abundance of talentand/or lack the ambition
    to push past their natural ceiling.

    I'm conflicted about that. Of course you
    need administrators, but taking experience
    out of the pool is not optimal (see above).
    I hear you... but one does also want someone in administration that understands what it's like in the field....
    Which throws the value of the MSN nd Ph.D. in
    nursing into doubt.
    Not if the person gets experience before the higher degree... and not everyone would want to get into the administration aspect of things...

    As above, with the additional cynical comment
    that those who like administration tend to hide
    some other character flaw, such as not liking
    work or not liking people.

    Okay, a philosophy not unlike that that
    Wegmans espouses. I wonder what the cushion
    was that allowed them to be that way, in
    this shrimp-eat-shrimp world.
    Small enough business, with somewhat of a unique niche, so not that much competition....? Dunno for sure.... :)

    If there aren't any other shrimp to be
    afraid of, all the better.

    It's bewildering. Best thing is just to
    be bewildered.
    Indeed. :)
    You can't beat up on oblivion. Not
    easily, anyway.
    Or at least not very satisfactorily... ;)

    Who was it, Canute or someone, who took up
    arms against the sea?

    And with the humidity in the house being
    30% or less most of the time, that's not
    much of an issue. Plus if the candy dries out
    it becomes closer to peanut brittle anyway.
    So it would still be tasty... :) Just different... :)
    We'll find out, but I suspect that's the case.
    Should be... :)
    Stay tuned until about New Year's Eve eve.
    If there's no word by 1/5, remind me.
    Ok... As long as I remember... :)

    And knowing you, you'll ask for a report
    right away.

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    Title: Jewish Rye Bread
    Categories: Breads
    Yield: 2 loaves

    POOLISH :
    3 c Spring Water, 75 degrees
    1 1/2 ts Dry Yeast
    2 tb Sugar, raw or granulated
    3 c Flour, unbleached bread
    FINAL DOUGH :
    2 c Rye Flour, medium ground
    1/4 c Caraway Seeds
    1 tb Oil, vegetable
    1 tb Salt, sea
    1 tb Sugar, raw or granulated
    3 c Flour, unbleached bread

    MAKE & FERMENT THE POOLISH (allow 5 hours):
    : Combine the water, yeast, and sugar in a 6-quart bowl. Let
    stand 1 minute, then stir with a wooden spoon until yeast and sugar
    are dissolved. Add the unbleached flour and stir until the
    consistency of a thick batter. Continue stirring for about 100
    strokes or until the strands of gluten come off the spoon when you
    press the back of the spoon against the bowl. Scrape down the sides
    of the bowl with a rubber spatula. Cover with a clean damp kitchen
    towel or plastic wrap, and put in a moderately warm (74-80 degree)
    draft-free place until it is bubbly and increased in volume. (The
    poolish can be refrigerated overnight. Allow to stand at room
    temperature for 2 hours before proceeding.)

    MIX & KNEAD THE FINAL DOUGH (20 minutes):
    : Measure the ingredients and make sure all ingredients,
    including the poolish are at 74-80 degrees. Transfer the poolish to
    your mixing bowl. Add the rye flour, caraway seeds, oil, salt, and
    sugar. Stir with a wooden spoon until well combined. Add enough of
    the unbleached flour to make a thick mass that is difficult to stir.
    Turn out onto a well-floured surface. Knead, adding more of the
    remaining flour when needed until dough is soft and smooth, 15-20
    minutes. The dough is ready when a small amount pulled from the mass
    springs back quickly.

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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Nancy Backus on Tuesday, December 25, 2018 04:28:12
    On 12-24-18 10:22, Michael Loo <=-
    spoke to Nancy Backus about 718 career paths was <=-

    Perhaps, or maybe just a little more common... :)

    Probably commoner in the olden days, when nursing and
    social work was along with teaching and librarianship
    were among the few ways a smart woman could enter an
    advanceable career. Now, doctory and lawyery professions
    are open to women, so a lot of the very best are
    siphoned away from those positions that were formerly
    filled by sometimes massively overqualified labor.

    Of course the more chavanistic explanation for women entering those
    professions was that it was someplace where they could work while
    looking for their real job as a wife and mother.

    NOT MY OPINION, especially with a mother as a nurse.


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    Title: WINTER VEGETABLE STOCK
    Categories: Soup, Vegetarian, Vegetable, Madison
    Yield: 6 servings

    2 tb Butter or olive oil
    1 Onion
    - diced into 1/2-in squares
    1 c Leek greens; roughly chopped
    2 md Carrots; peeled and diced
    4 Outer stalks of celery; plus
    Celery leaves; diced
    1 c Cubed winter squash
    -=OR=- Squash Seeds & Skins
    1 c Chard stems
    - cut into 1-in lengths
    1 md Potato; diced, -=OR=-
    1 c -Thick Potato Parings
    1/2 Celery root; scrubbed, diced
    1/4 c Lentils; rinsed
    6 Thyme sprigs; -=OR=-
    1/4 ts -Dried thyme
    2 Bay leaves
    2 Handfuls borage leaves
    -=OR=- Chard leaves, lettuce
    - or nettles
    3 Sage leaves
    10 Parsley sprigs
    - roughly chopped
    4 Garlic cloves
    - peeled and chopped
    1 ts Salt
    2 ts Nutritional yeast (optional)
    8 1/2 c Cold water

    HEAT THE BUTTER OR OIL in a wide pot, add the vegetables, lentils,
    herbs, garlic, salt, nutritional yeast, if using, and 1/2 cup water,
    and stew over medium-low heat for 15 to 20 minutes. Pour in the 8
    cups of cold water and bring to a boil; then simmer, partially
    covered, for 30 to 40 minutes. Pour the stock through a sieve and
    press out as much of the liquid as possible. Use it as is, or reduce
    it further for a richer flavor. Taste and season with more salt, if
    needed.

    Makes 4 to 6 Cups

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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to MICHAEL LOO on Tuesday, December 25, 2018 22:27:00
    Quoting Michael Loo to Nancy Backus on 12-24-18 10:22 <=-

    The question is can you have both skill sets
    rolled up into the same person.
    Admittedly not very common, but it is possible... I've seen it in action... :)
    It's a set of qualities whose coincidence
    is to be desired, but perhaps as rare as an
    eclipse or a "blue moon."
    Perhaps, or maybe just a little more common... :)
    Probably commoner in the olden days, when nursing and
    social work was along with teaching and librarianship
    were among the few ways a smart woman could enter an
    advanceable career. Now, doctory and lawyery professions
    are open to women, so a lot of the very best are
    siphoned away from those positions that were formerly
    filled by sometimes massively overqualified labor.

    Probably a good thing over all, though... nice to have some of that
    massively overqualified labor in better fitting jobs... ;)

    The demands placed on the staff are greater than ever
    - but that might be largely due to understaffing by
    the comfortably paid hospital administration.
    Sad, but quite possible...
    Danger of falling into a sort of negative corollary
    of Parkinson's Law when it happens. I.e., the time
    available constricts to squeeze the work when the
    work is abundant.
    That sounds particularly nasty, actually.... ;) Especially given how my last week has been going.... work has been abundant, and time did indeed squeeze.... hence, a week where I thought I'd be catching up has been
    one where I've slipped farther behind on messaging... sigh....
    Life gets in the way of second life.

    Very much so... About caught up again, though... ;)

    But both these phenomena bleed off talent from
    places where they would be of greatest use.
    True, there is that possibility...
    Danger of falling into the Peter Principle when
    it happens.
    Yes, a danger there... but not always the case from what I've seen...
    for some it just lets them use their gifts better...
    One thanks the heavens for those who have an
    abundance of talentand/or lack the ambition
    to push past their natural ceiling.

    Indeed.

    I'm conflicted about that. Of course you
    need administrators, but taking experience
    out of the pool is not optimal (see above).
    I hear you... but one does also want someone in administration that understands what it's like in the field....
    Which throws the value of the MSN nd Ph.D. in
    nursing into doubt.
    Not if the person gets experience before the higher degree... and not everyone would want to get into the administration aspect of things...
    As above, with the additional cynical comment
    that those who like administration tend to hide
    some other character flaw, such as not liking
    work or not liking people.

    There is that....

    It's bewildering. Best thing is just to
    be bewildered.
    Indeed. :)
    You can't beat up on oblivion. Not
    easily, anyway.
    Or at least not very satisfactorily... ;)
    Who was it, Canute or someone, who took up
    arms against the sea?

    Maybe.... or was it Lear....?

    And with the humidity in the house being
    30% or less most of the time, that's not
    much of an issue. Plus if the candy dries out
    it becomes closer to peanut brittle anyway.
    So it would still be tasty... :) Just different... :)
    We'll find out, but I suspect that's the case.
    Should be... :)
    Stay tuned until about New Year's Eve eve.
    If there's no word by 1/5, remind me.
    Ok... As long as I remember... :)
    And knowing you, you'll ask for a report
    right away.

    If I remember... ;)

    ttyl neb

    ... How can you eat one of God's own creatures? With mustard and onions!

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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to DALE SHIPP on Wednesday, December 26, 2018 20:54:00
    Quoting Dale Shipp to Nancy Backus on 12-25-18 03:28 <=-

    Perhaps, or maybe just a little more common... :)
    Probably commoner in the olden days, when nursing and social
    work was along with teaching and librarianship were among the
    few ways a smart woman could enter an advanceable career. Now,
    doctory and lawyery professions are open to women, so a lot of
    the very best are siphoned away from those positions that were
    formerly filled by sometimes massively overqualified labor.

    Of course the more chauvanistic explanation for women entering those professions was that it was someplace where they could work while
    looking for their real job as a wife and mother.

    Of course it was also mooted that going on for higher education and/or
    getting a secretarial position were also placeholder/stepping stone
    jobs...

    NOT MY OPINION, especially with a mother as a nurse.

    She'd rise up from her grave to haunt you.... (G) I'm sure you learned
    from her that her job as a nurse as well as that of a wife/mother were
    both of prime importance to her... :)

    ttyl neb

    ... The best sauce in the world is hunger. - Cervantes

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