• 716 rib roast + wor

    From MICHAEL LOO@1:123/140 to DALE SHIPP on Monday, December 24, 2018 11:21:20
    I strongly prefer USDA Prime or the equivalent,
    probably wet-aged, though in many beef-producing
    places they prefer not aged at all. My preference
    is sirloin strip first, probably chuck tender
    second, because ribeye can be too flabby.
    I am not aware of any place where we can buy wet aged beef. Wegmans had

    It's hard to find any place where you can buy
    anything else. In the last few decades advances
    in plastics technology mean that meat is
    shipped in subprimals that wet age as they
    travel. What you get in the supermarkets and
    big-box stores are wet aged, though not
    necessarily long enough to make much of a
    difference.

    dry aged beef at horrendous prices, especially for meat that does not
    look appetizing at all. Our beef purchases are the BJs porterhouse

    Appearances can be deceiving. I was never rich
    enough to eat enough dry-aged beef to acquire
    the taste. If you like medium or above beef,
    dry aging might richen the flavor and do some
    tenderizing, but otherwise I don't see the point.

    (choice) when it looks very good and Costco's prime sirloin. Prices are usually about $8 and $9 respectively. We use the sirloin for cooking
    inside during winter, and the porterhouse on the grill outside.

    I generally prefer pan-broiling, and Lilli
    prefers the outside grill, but as there's a
    ban on open fires, the point is mooted.

    That's more or less what I was thinking of, but
    maybe 6.99/lb "semi-boneless" (evil and misleading
    name) - you don't get a break for taking the section
    of backbone, which is useful to me but not as much
    as meat.
    This roast had the chine(?) bone off and just two beef rib bones on.

    The chine bone is the backbone. I don't know
    why the additional terminology for butchering.

    This is not an intrinsically horrible recipe,
    but it's woefully underseasoned and simplistic.
    Many of the lentil recipes in this month's selection would fit that
    bill. I am thinking of what to select for next month -- any hints or requests?

    I'll leave that to those who need or collect recipes.

    <<Talking about word connect game>>
    Okay, so no substantial differences. Perhaps
    version 2 is meant for a younger audience?
    I don't see that. Our only reason for switching was that the higher
    levels got a bit too tedious without spending lots of points. Not as
    much fun.

    If you have the points, that's not too
    onerous. I got tired easily, because it
    took on the aspect of a vocabulary
    builder such as you might get in high
    school. I usually play a chapter the
    first day of a stay at Lilli's and then
    only when help is required.

    I don't think that this one is either simplistic or underseasoned -- but
    then you might up some of the seasonings.
    Title: Lemon Lentils with Curried Shrimp

    It seems to err in the other direction,
    but I am less inclined to criticize for
    that. I would omit the lemon altogether,
    most likely.

    One observation though -- why use the peel of a lemon instead of the
    zest. Seems to me that would add the bitter pith.

    It would. Some people like that, though.
    People who like IPAs might, for example.
    In the recipe you posted, I'd guess that
    it could also have been the author using
    imprecise language. A large lemon would
    probably zest out 2 ts; with the pith,
    I'd expect more volume, maybe twice.

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    Title: Fakes Xithati ( Sour Lentil Soup)
    Categories: Greek, Soups
    Servings: 6

    1/2 l Brown lentils
    2 l Water
    1/4 l Finely chopped spring onions
    1 Garlic clove (opt.); crushed
    1/2 dl Finely chopped coriander *
    3/4 dl Olive oil
    1/2 dl Cold water
    1 tb Flour
    1/2 dl Vinegar (or to taste)
    Salt
    Freshly ground black pepper

    *Note: Finely chopped parsley may be substituted for coriander leaves.

    Wash lentils in several changes of cold water, or place in a sieve and
    run
    water through them. Drain.

    Put lentils in a large pot with 8 cups water, spring onion, garlic if
    used,
    oil and coriander or parsley (or a combination of the two if preferred).
    Bring to the boil, cover pan and simmer on low heat for 1 hour or until
    lentils are soft.

    Put water and flour in a screw top jar, seal and shake until thoroughly
    combined. This prevents lumps forming. Pour this gradually into boiling
    soup, stirring constantly, until thickened slightly. Add vinegar and
    salt
    and pepper to taste. Return to the boil, boil gently for 5 minutes, then
    serve hot.

    From: "The Complete Middle East Cookbook" by Tess Mallos
    ISBN: 1 86302 069 1

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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Michael Loo on Tuesday, December 25, 2018 04:18:10
    On 12-24-18 10:21, Michael Loo <=-
    spoke to Dale Shipp about 716 rib roast + wor <=-

    I am not aware of any place where we can buy wet aged beef. Wegmans had

    It's hard to find any place where you can buy
    anything else. In the last few decades advances
    in plastics technology mean that meat is
    shipped in subprimals that wet age as they
    travel. What you get in the supermarkets and
    big-box stores are wet aged, though not
    necessarily long enough to make much of a
    difference.

    OK, I understand. Yes, I knew that markets get subprimals in cryovac
    and then butcher them for the counters. Or if you go to BJs, you can
    actually buy them still in the cryovac and do the butchering yourself
    (not that I would do that).

    dry aged beef at horrendous prices, especially for meat that does not
    look appetizing at all. Our beef purchases are the BJs porterhouse

    Appearances can be deceiving. I was never rich
    enough to eat enough dry-aged beef to acquire
    the taste. If you like medium or above beef,
    dry aging might richen the flavor and do some
    tenderizing, but otherwise I don't see the point.

    I seem to recall you had other terms for the result -- something about
    mold and blue cheese?


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    Title: Steve's Mother's Lentil Stew
    Categories: Stew, Vegetarian
    Yield: 1 servings

    1 lb Lentils
    1 lg Onion, chopped
    1 Carrot, grated
    2 Ribs celery, slice on a
    Slant, Chinese stir-fry
    Style
    4 oz Fresh mushrooms, sliced
    2 Cloves garlic, minced
    1 ts Thyme
    1 ts Oregano
    2 tb Dried parsley (or 1/4 cup
    Fresh parsley)
    Salt, pepper to taste

    Place lentils into a big pot, adding water according to package
    directions. Add all other ingredients, and simmer, over low heat
    until the lentils are tender (maybe 1 hour).

    Taste, and adjust seasonings.

    Before serving, cook 1 cup small pasta (shells are pretty) in boiling
    water until just al dente. Stir pasta into lentils.

    NOTE: this is not a particularly pretty dish. To make it more
    appealing, top with a handful of chopped parsley, chopped fresh
    tomatoes, green onions, whatever appeals to you.

    If you don't think you can consume this in a reasonable time, cook a
    smaller amount of pasta (whatever you can eat in a day or so), and
    combine with a portion of the lentil mixture. The rest can be
    portioned into meal-sized packages, and frozen for later use.

    Kathy in
    Bryan, TX

    From: Kathy Pitts Date: 03-06-95
    Cooking Ä

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  • From Bill Swisher@1:261/1466 to Dale Shipp on Saturday, December 29, 2018 13:04:02
    Quoting Dale Shipp to Michael Loo <=-

    dry aged beef at horrendous prices, especially for meat that does not

    FWIW, the last time I can recall seeing dry aged beef was in the downstairs part of the New York, New York casino in Las Vegas. I remember thinking it was
    probably used in one of the restaurants, since it was in a replica butcher shop
    and didn't appear to be for sale.

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