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    From MICHAEL LOO@1:123/140 to RUTH HAFFLY on Friday, December 21, 2018 10:46:56
    After all, the moderator is the music man. (G)
    At least realer than the one in the play,
    who it is to be enviously admitted gets the
    girl in the end. As with many such, I heartily
    disapprove of many of the sentiments espoused,
    plus the ending is hateful, where the girl
    abandons her moral high ground and covers for
    the criminal, who escapes punishment. Oh, it's
    so romantic, people say.
    I know, makes for a good (escape-ist) story line but doesn't play out so
    well in real life.

    But a bad example. I still hate it. Same with
    Oklahoma!, where the hero, a well-scrubbed
    wholesome buy, bullies the awkward outsider
    into essentially committing suicide by cop.

    It's some sort of Broadway (?) show based on her life and music.
    Don't > know if it actually uses any of her actual vocals but the bits
    I saw,
    Pretty unlikely, as that would add another
    layer of complexity and cost to the production.
    Undoubtedly so.

    Not surprising - verisimilitude is sought after
    in that kind of thing. Not reality, mind you -
    so Richard Herd was sitting in his agent's
    office, and the call came in from some casting
    director asking for a "Richard Herd type." The
    agent said, you're in luck, Richard is right
    here, and you can talk to him. From the other
    end came "I said I wanted a Richard Herd type,
    not Richard Herd."
    I've read of actors/actresses being told "you look so much like (name of person"............most responding in a "so I've been told" manner.

    And the other way around as well. I've been accused
    of looking like the mayor of San Francisco, and I
    once had a pleasant conversation with a woman who
    was a dead ringer for Geraldine Ferraro.

    Pretty much nobody actually needs a dog
    unless of the service variety, and most
    service situations are made up and bogus.
    I'm thinking this would be an emotional
    support sort of animal (as pets generally
    are anyway), but if she put a vest on it
    and took it on planes, I'd be out of there.
    I can see it for some people (PTSD, autism) but not nearly as many cases
    as are being claimed. What gets me are the people that claim all sorts
    of uncommon animals being called emotional support animals. I just can't
    see a snake or a pig giving emotional support--and finally airlines and
    all are beginning to wise up on that also.

    Pig, yes; snake, well, pathological people
    have rights, too. The consistent solution
    would be to say, okay, if you're that messed
    up, your being on a plane at all is a public
    hazard, so go away.

    good company but is she up to walking it several times a day, in all kinds of weather? There's also the (vet) care and feeding--the
    bigger > they are, the more they eat--of the beast. Human food is not the best > diet for them, despite what some pet owners think. There's
    a lot to
    Again, the creatures didn't last this long
    by being picky.
    No, but we do. (G)

    We didn't get where we are by being picky. either.

    brother took care of the cat he had, and kept it when he moved into
    the > house. Easy transition there but it's not always that simple. These are also to be considered not just by
    Lilli but by everyone who wants to keep a pet.
    True, I remember my father complaining about his brother's dogs when his brother was up in his years and unable to care for them properly. Fast forward some years and Dad had a dog that he wasn't able to care for properly. The dog passed away before Dad or Mom did, partly from their inability to care for it as it should have been. That's another reason
    we don't have pets, much as we'd like them.

    Beggars would ride!

    This isn't that big of a problem if
    addressed early. Easier to get a small pet,
    big enough not to be able to get in the
    duct work, small enough not to be massively
    troublesome.
    But would she go for a small one?

    I doubt it. The functions of a big dog and a
    small dog are largely different.

    Out in the big city, there's been a distressing
    trend wherein water costs as much as other
    beverages, sometimes more. Not to mention the
    massive amount of plastic waste generated.
    But it's usually free in restaurants, unless you get some sort of
    bottled water.

    In many countries, it's a real hassle to
    get tap water in restaurants; in others,
    it's not a good idea in the first place.

    True, even now a lot of clear liquids can be easily mistaken for
    water.
    All one really has to do is have some
    illness-causing bacterium or virus in
    it, and some trouble could be caused.
    Could be quite debilitating.

    actually gives its regular flyers collapsible
    plastic bottles with the company logo, making a
    virtue out of an inconvenience.
    And free advertising for them. But, I doubt I'll ever fly Alaska
    That's the virtue I was referring to.
    Still, probably won't catch on, industry wide.

    And why not. I have been given quantities of
    branded merchandise of marginal usefulness,
    from water bottles to USB storage sticks to
    pens and pencils to salt. Salt?!

    Airlines, let alone fly it enough to "earn" a "free" water bottle.
    You can get free water bottles all over the
    place.
    Yes, every so often we will donate a bunch to a thrift store or similar place. Same with insulated cups.

    Well, there you go.

    My method varies, depending on how much I'm packing, weather at the destination, etc. Will have to pack suitcases again soon; we're not taking the camper south for Christmas.
    Circumstance is important. I am taking two
    sportcoats with me net week, which will require
    a deviation from my normal techniques.
    Will they go in your carry on or a garment bag?

    I detest garment bags - more than wrinkles.
    Plus a garment bag itself would use up the
    carry-on allowance, so that would be pointless.

    Fish sticks were a standby, as are deep-fried
    vegetables (nothing said about regular vegetables)
    The latter (other than french fries) were never served at our house.

    Your loss!

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    Title: Raisin Fudge
    Categories: Candies, 1941
    Servings: 6

    2 tb Butter or butter substitute
    2 c Sugar
    1/4 c Molasses
    1/2 c Evaporated milk
    2 Squares chocolate
    2 tb Raisins
    1/2 c Chopped nuts
    1 ts Vanilla

    Melt butter; add sugar, milk, molasses, and chocolate. Heat gently and
    stir until chocolate is melted. Bring to the boiling point and boil to
    soft ball stage (234 - 238 F). Remove from fire. Cool to room
    temperature.
    Beat until creamy. Add raisins, nuts, and flavoring. Continue beating
    until mixture will hold its shape. Pour into well-buttered pan. Cut in
    squares. Mrs. H.J.T., Tulsa, OK.

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to MICHAEL LOO on Monday, December 24, 2018 12:03:40
    Hi Michael,

    plus the ending is hateful, where the girl
    abandons her moral high ground and covers for
    the criminal, who escapes punishment. Oh, it's
    so romantic, people say.
    I know, makes for a good (escape-ist) story line but doesn't play
    out so > well in real life.

    But a bad example. I still hate it. Same with
    Oklahoma!, where the hero, a well-scrubbed
    wholesome buy, bullies the awkward outsider
    into essentially committing suicide by cop.

    We've been watching some of the old "Gunsmoke" and other westerns at my in-laws. They're all so predictable, it's funny.


    Not surprising - verisimilitude is sought after
    in that kind of thing. Not reality, mind you -
    so Richard Herd was sitting in his agent's
    office, and the call came in from some casting
    director asking for a "Richard Herd type." The
    agent said, you're in luck, Richard is right
    here, and you can talk to him. From the other
    end came "I said I wanted a Richard Herd type,
    not Richard Herd."
    I've read of actors/actresses being told "you look so much like
    (name of > person"............most responding in a "so I've been told" manner.

    And the other way around as well. I've been accused
    of looking like the mayor of San Francisco, and I
    once had a pleasant conversation with a woman who
    was a dead ringer for Geraldine Ferraro.

    I've not had that experience with any look alike famous, probably just
    as well. I tend to blend into the woodwork, myself.

    Pretty much nobody actually needs a dog
    unless of the service variety, and most
    service situations are made up and bogus.
    I'm thinking this would be an emotional
    support sort of animal (as pets generally
    are anyway), but if she put a vest on it
    and took it on planes, I'd be out of there.
    I can see it for some people (PTSD, autism) but not nearly as many
    cases > as are being claimed. What gets me are the people that claim
    all sorts > of uncommon animals being called emotional support
    animals. I just can't > see a snake or a pig giving emotional
    support--and finally airlines and > all are beginning to wise up on
    that also.

    Pig, yes; snake, well, pathological people
    have rights, too. The consistent solution
    would be to say, okay, if you're that messed
    up, your being on a plane at all is a public
    hazard, so go away.

    And how do they expect to fed/water/exercise the animal? Can't take him
    outside for a walk. (G)

    feeding--the > ML> bigger > they are, the more they eat--of the
    beast. Human food is not > ML> the best > diet for them, despite what some pet owners think. There's > ML> a lot to
    Again, the creatures didn't last this long
    by being picky.
    No, but we do. (G)

    We didn't get where we are by being picky. either.

    No, but some people have done well in the last century or so by doing
    so. Some have made good money out of picky eating--look at C.W> Post or Syvester Graham.

    brother took care of the cat he had, and kept it when he
    moved into > ML> the > house. Easy transition there but it's not
    always that simple. > ML> These are also to be considered not just by
    Lilli but by everyone who wants to keep a pet.
    True, I remember my father complaining about his brother's dogs when
    his > brother was up in his years and unable to care for them
    properly. Fast > forward some years and Dad had a dog that he wasn't
    able to care for
    properly. The dog passed away before Dad or Mom did, partly from
    their > inability to care for it as it should have been. That's
    another reason > we don't have pets, much as we'd like them.

    Beggars would ride!

    Better for my health if I don't have pets.

    big enough not to be able to get in the
    duct work, small enough not to be massively
    troublesome.
    But would she go for a small one?

    I doubt it. The functions of a big dog and a
    small dog are largely different.

    Some small ones are dust mops on legs; others are nervous breakdowns on
    4 paws. Big ones are good for the "quick look, scare off the intruder"
    but most of them are softies at heart. I wouldn't want to mess with some
    breeds tho. Both of our dogs (cocker spaniel and bichon frise) were good
    sized (had the bichon when the girls were small) for the family when we
    had them. Both had good temperaments, a bit crazy tho. (G)

    Out in the big city, there's been a distressing
    trend wherein water costs as much as other
    beverages, sometimes more. Not to mention the
    massive amount of plastic waste generated.
    But it's usually free in restaurants, unless you get some sort of bottled water.

    In many countries, it's a real hassle to
    get tap water in restaurants; in others,
    it's not a good idea in the first place.

    Very true; I remember an American friend in Germany asking for water,
    thinking she was going to get tap water and getting bottled water. Had
    to teach her the way to ask for tap, if that's what she really wanted,
    but told her the bottled was better over there.

    True, even now a lot of clear liquids can be easily mistaken
    for > ML> water.
    All one really has to do is have some
    illness-causing bacterium or virus in
    it, and some trouble could be caused.
    Could be quite debilitating.

    Not what I would want, especially while away from home.

    actually gives its regular flyers collapsible
    plastic bottles with the company logo, making a
    virtue out of an inconvenience.
    And free advertising for them. But, I doubt I'll ever fly
    Alaska > ML> That's the virtue I was referring to.
    Still, probably won't catch on, industry wide.

    And why not. I have been given quantities of
    branded merchandise of marginal usefulness,
    from water bottles to USB storage sticks to
    pens and pencils to salt. Salt?!

    Salt? Who did that? Anyway, a company may try giving away water bottles, thinking that people would use them whenever flying. The average
    American mind set tho is to get/use something they can dispose of after consumption. The idea of having to schlep around a refillable water
    bottle is not something most American travellers wouldn't go for, IMO.


    Airlines, let alone fly it enough to "earn" a "free" water
    bottle. > ML> You can get free water bottles all over the
    place.
    Yes, every so often we will donate a bunch to a thrift store or
    similar > place. Same with insulated cups.

    Well, there you go.

    We can only keep/store/use so many. Keeping the most useable, passing on
    the ones we find less than ideal. Got some Contigo travel mugs a few
    months ago that have been quite good; passed on some others that weren't
    quite as good.


    My method varies, depending on how much I'm packing, weather
    at the


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    Ruth
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to MICHAEL LOO on Monday, December 24, 2018 12:24:36
    Hi Michael,

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    destination, etc. Will have to pack suitcases again soon;
    we're not > ML> > taking the camper south for Christmas.
    Circumstance is important. I am taking two
    sportcoats with me net week, which will require
    a deviation from my normal techniques.
    Will they go in your carry on or a garment bag?

    I detest garment bags - more than wrinkles.
    Plus a garment bag itself would use up the
    carry-on allowance, so that would be pointless.

    True, so you live with the somewhat rumpled look.


    Fish sticks were a standby, as are deep-fried
    vegetables (nothing said about regular vegetables)
    The latter (other than french fries) were never served at our
    house.

    Your loss!

    I know, but Dad didn't like them and Mom didn't know how to cook them.
    Have to take that into consideration. (G)

    Title: Raisin Fudge
    Categories: Candies, 1941
    Servings: 6

    2 tb Butter or butter substitute
    2 c Sugar
    1/4 c Molasses
    1/2 c Evaporated milk
    2 Squares chocolate
    2 tb Raisins
    1/2 c Chopped nuts
    1 ts Vanilla

    Different, don't think I've ever seen fudge with raisins. Have seen a
    lot of it with nuts but I prefer mine plain.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


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