• 684 NYC was/is nasty

    From MICHAEL LOO@1:123/140 to RUTH HANSCHKA on Monday, December 17, 2018 09:22:52
    Not nice to be around?
    Occasionally not. Messing with me sometimes is not a good idea.
    Almost makes it sound worth the challenge.
    Probably not wise. Messing with me also pulls in my sister, and
    nobody in their right minds wants that. Especially me.

    Audacious tyrant, do you dare
    To beard a maiden in her lair?
    - Gilbert & Sullivan

    Makes one wonder about architects in general.
    You have to wonder about their sanity and sense of what really
    works.
    As I've said, even the students at the bottom
    of their architecture school class have to
    find jobs someplace.
    And then you have people who buy 'design something' software ... and
    proceed to confusion.

    Sometimes such might turn out a decent product;
    and it doesn't take bumbling software employed
    by bumbling creatives to make excrescences that
    dot the landscape, such as two horrors I passed
    on my walk today, designed by John Andrews and
    Minoru Yamasaki, who are fairly Big Names in the
    business.

    Better? I've always been skeptical of that
    part of New Jersey that is within sight of
    Manhattan. Well, to tell the truth, all of
    New Jersey.
    At the time yes. Newark was a nice working class area about 20 years
    before that. Some of those areas are now gentrifying as people are
    escaping Manhattan rents.

    Thus causing the local rents to rise toward the
    level of across the river. The Newark I ride
    through between the train station and the
    airport remains pretty ungentrified.

    This is a relatively benign chain.
    Independent steakhouses these days are few
    and far between and bizarrely overpriced.
    I tend not to eat steak out. Saves grief. And my wallet.

    Thing is the better steaks can't be had
    from the supermarket even on special order.
    Our dilemma for Christmas dinner (in Cambridge)
    is that Harriet, a must-satisfy guest, doesn't
    eat the time-honored lobster and must have beef,
    but to get a steak worthy of the occasion we'd
    have to pay $25 a pound or more, and still it
    won't be as good as what Grill 23 offers.

    I'm thinking of saying screw it all and getting
    a 3-to-4-lb standing rib of the lower Choice
    classification and roast it up and then cut out
    the heart and serve it to her, making up in
    quantity what quality may be slightly inadequate.

    Title: Manhattan Clam Chowder
    Ewww. Clam soup with tomatoes. What did the poor clams ever do to
    you?

    Clams Posillipo
    Categories: Italian, shellfish, starter
    Servings: 4

    32 littleneck clams
    3 Tb olive oil
    6 garlic cloves, halved
    1/4 c onion, chopped
    28 oz cn whole plum tomatoes with juice
    salt and fresh ground black pepper to taste
    1 Tb tomato paste
    1/4 c chopped fresh basil
    1 Tb chopped flat leaf parsley, plus more for garnish

    Scrub the clams with a stiff brush, rinse throughly
    in cold water and place in a large pot. Add cold
    water to just cover (or slightly less) and bring
    to a boil over high heat. Cook until the clams open,
    about 5 min. Using tongs or a slotted spoon remove
    the clams to a large bowl as they open and discard
    any that do not open. Strain the cooking liquid
    though a chinois/strainer lined with a coffee
    filter. Reserve 3/4 c strained cooking liquid
    (now wonderful clam broth). Return the clams to the
    pot, add cold water and stir to remove any remaining
    sand. Drain and reserve clams.

    Heat oil in a large saucepan over medium flame and
    saute the garlic halves until golden, about 2 min.
    Remove garlic with tongs and discard. Add the onions
    to the garlic oil and saute 3 to 4 min until soft
    but do not brown. Coarsely chop the tomatoes and add
    them and their juice to the saucepan. Bring the sauce
    to a boil, reduce heat and simmer covered for 25 min,
    stirring occasionally. Season the sauce to taste with
    salt and pepper. Stir in the tomato paste if using
    and add the basil and 1 Tb parsley. Simmer uncovered
    for 5 min. Add the reserved clam broth and clams and
    bring to boil. Cover the saucepan, reduce heat and
    simmer 8 to 10 min or until the clams are heated
    through. Spoon the clams and sauce into serving
    bowls, garnish with remaining parsley and serve
    immediately with hot crusty bread.

    Sal Scognamillo, Patsy's, New York
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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Michael Loo on Tuesday, December 18, 2018 03:20:08
    On 12-17-18 08:22, Michael Loo <=-
    spoke to Ruth Hanschka about 684 NYC was/is nasty <=-

    Thing is the better steaks can't be had
    from the supermarket even on special order.

    What kind of steak might that be?

    Our dilemma for Christmas dinner (in Cambridge)
    is that Harriet, a must-satisfy guest, doesn't
    eat the time-honored lobster and must have beef,
    but to get a steak worthy of the occasion we'd
    have to pay $25 a pound or more, and still it
    won't be as good as what Grill 23 offers.

    I would choke at having to pay $25 per pound for beef steak, except
    perhaps at a restaurant.

    I'm thinking of saying screw it all and getting
    a 3-to-4-lb standing rib of the lower Choice
    classification and roast it up and then cut out
    the heart and serve it to her, making up in
    quantity what quality may be slightly inadequate.

    Just so happens that Safeway had a sale on rib roast this week. I got a
    5 pound, 2 rib roast for $5 per pound. Can't say if it was lower choice
    or upper choice (nor would I know how to spot the difference). It was a
    good looking roast with not too much fat (yea -- I know that is a
    detriment, not a plus for you). I did the cook at 450 for 15 minutes,
    turn down to 350 and finish cooking until the meat thermometer reads
    what you want. My choice was to stick it near the edge and cook to
    110F. Our first meal was a moderate slice off of one edge plus one of
    the rib bones for me. Next meal ditto with a slice off of the other
    outside edge. Tonight, I did a slice off of the middle and will have
    two more slices to go before the roast is finished. The middle is
    probably just past your desired level or rare. There may well be a few leftover pieces which will become a black bean and beef stir fry. Not
    bad, six meals for about $25.



    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

    Title: Egyptian Lentils
    Categories: Beans, Egyptian, Vegetarian
    Yield: 1 Servings

    1 c Lentils
    1 1/2 c Regular rice
    1 c Elbow macaroni
    3 tb Oil
    2 Fresh chili peppers
    1 1/2 c Tomato sauce
    2 tb Vinegar
    1 lg Onion

    Place lentils in a saucepan and cover by 1". Turn heat to high, bring
    to a boil, turn down heat to simmer, and cook covered for 35 minutes
    or until tender. Drain and transfer to a large bowl. Set aside. Bring
    3 cups of water to a boil, add rice turn down to simmer for 20 minutes
    and fluff up rice with a fork and add to lentils.
    Boil 2 quarts of water, add elbow macaroni and cook until tender. Add
    to lentils.. In a small skillet add 1 tbs of oil and saute finely
    chopped peppers for 2 minutes. Add the tomato sauce, 1/2 cup of
    water, and the vinegar, bring to a boil and simmer for 5 minutes. In
    another skillet heat 2 tbls oil, add onions and saute until brown
    around the edges. Garnish lentil mixture with the onions and pour the
    tomato sauce over all. Serve immediately.
    From: Earl Shelsby

    MMMMM


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  • From RUTH HANSCHKA@1:123/140 to MICHAEL LOO on Sunday, December 23, 2018 00:56:32

    Almost makes it sound worth the challenge.
    Probably not wise. Messing with me also pulls in my sister, and
    nobody in their right minds wants that. Especially me.

    Audacious tyrant, do you dare
    To beard a maiden in her lair?
    - Gilbert & Sullivan

    Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and
    taste good with ketchup?

    And then you have people who buy 'design something' software ...
    and
    proceed to confusion.

    Sometimes such might turn out a decent product;
    and it doesn't take bumbling software employed
    by bumbling creatives to make excrescences that
    dot the landscape, such as two horrors I passed
    on my walk today, designed by John Andrews and
    Minoru Yamasaki, who are fairly Big Names in the
    business.

    Big name doesn't mean good taste.


    At the time yes. Newark was a nice working class area about 20
    years
    before that. Some of those areas are now gentrifying as people
    are
    escaping Manhattan rents.

    Thus causing the local rents to rise toward the
    level of across the river. The Newark I ride
    through between the train station and the
    airport remains pretty ungentrified.

    A lot of the new money is in loft apartments that used to be cheap
    rent for artists.

    Thing is the better steaks can't be had
    from the supermarket even on special order.
    Our dilemma for Christmas dinner (in Cambridge)
    is that Harriet, a must-satisfy guest, doesn't
    eat the time-honored lobster and must have beef,
    but to get a steak worthy of the occasion we'd
    have to pay $25 a pound or more, and still it
    won't be as good as what Grill 23 offers.

    Decisions decisions. I'll be getting ravioli for dinner instead. My
    BIL's family used to make, badly, their own. Now he gets them from an
    Italian place that's known for ravioli instead.

    I'm thinking of saying screw it all and getting
    a 3-to-4-lb standing rib of the lower Choice
    classification and roast it up and then cut out
    the heart and serve it to her, making up in
    quantity what quality may be slightly inadequate.

    My Big Y sells some of the better stuff; there may be a place up near
    you too.

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